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THE TRUTH ABOUT MARRIAGE
BY LOVE2DAY

The whole purpose of the woman is for the man, GOD made Eve  to be Adams help meet.  And said this is flesh of my flesh, so by Adam saying this Eve is Adam wife.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

The making of woman and the institution of marriage

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Gen 2:19-25 (KJV)

The punishment God promises for mankind

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Gen 3:16-20 (KJV)

The birth of Cain and Abel

1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Gen 4:1-2 (KJV)

-Now Adam knew Eve  his wife, and she conceived.  Now by saying this Eve was already part of Adam because she came from Adam. 
When you become one flesh you are married.

Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Matt 19:4-6 (KJV)

Why did GOD destory the old world? What were they doing? Why would God destroy so many people? 

The wickedness of the world

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:1-2 (KJV)

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:4-5 (KJV)

So this generation took then wives of all they chose.

Noah finds grace

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. 9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Gen 6:8-12 (KJV)
Noah and his three sons only had one wife, they did not take wives of all the chose. Noah
find grace in the eyes of the Lord. Now keep in mind this is before the law was established.
The last days like the days of Noe. What are they doing?  Marrying and giving in marriage. And the flood took them all away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:36-39 (KJV)

Sodom and Gomorrah

20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD
Gen 18:20-22 (KJV)

God will not destroy it for ten's sake. They were not even ten righteous people.

And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. 33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
Gen 18:32-33 (KJV)

 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
Gen 19:4-8 (KJV)
The people want to Know the Angels. They want to have sex with them.

Sodom and Gomorrah are destroyed
24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities,and     that which grew upon the ground.
Gen 19:24-25 (KJV)

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:28-29 (KJV)

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
2 Peter 2:4-6 (KJV)

The godly shall be spared this punishment, as Lot was delivered out of Sodom   

7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2 Peter 2:7-9 (KJV)



6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities
Jude 1:6-8 (KJV)

Now ask yourself what is this world doing?  This world is doing the same. 
They are marrying and are be given in to marriage.  You can marry and divorce as many time as you like.  The world is full of adultery, it is  full of wickedness.  They say It is okay for me to marry who I please. I don't love my current husband or wife. I not happy anymore. Iam saved now and God will understand.  I am covered by the blood of Christ.  I can still sin, Iam not wicked, not a wh*re, not full of adultery. 

You are not under the old law, Christ fulfilled the law but the law is not done away with. Christ fulfilled the law and so it is no longer okay to have more then one wife, and it not okay to have 2 -10  wives. This is sin. You are now living in the NEW TESTIMENT.

Each time you become one flesh you  are married to that person. 

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Cor 6:12-20 (KJV)
This what Christ teaches in the NEW TESTIMENT  about marriage.

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31 , Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matt 5:27-32 (KJV)



3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Matt 19:3-12 (KJV)
 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again. 2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Mark 10:1-12 (KJV)

17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. 19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother
Mark 10:17-19 (KJV)

13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. 15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. 16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. 18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)

1  Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6  they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 , No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:1-11 (KJV)

Jesus forgives the woman and tells her to go and sin no more

22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written
Romans 2:17-24 (KJV)
Do you not teach in your churches not to do this, and then you do it anyway. 

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:7-10 (KJV)

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:16-21 (KJV)

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
James 2:8-13 (KJV)


20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works
Rev 2:20-23 (KJV)

Are you her children?  If your living in adultery you are.

If you do not want to be her children then you will need to repent,

My next lesson will be how to clean up from this sin.

I think that you have a fixation about what YOU see as adultery and fornication. if you want to live believing this that is fine but please stop giving us all lectures and condemning others who are properly and legally married(and who are NOT condemned by God, only you.)

YOU THINK THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD IS CONDEMNING YOU. THIS IS NOT MY WORDS BUT IT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE KING JAMES BIBLE.

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:15-16 (KJV)

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do
Heb 4:12-13 (KJV)

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Rev 2:15-17 (KJV)

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:38:32
YOU THINK THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD IS CONDEMNING YOU. THIS IS NOT MY WORDS BUT IT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE KING JAMES BIBLE.

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:15-16 (KJV)

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do
Heb 4:12-13 (KJV)

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Rev 2:15-17 (KJV)

Absolutely none of the words that you have quoted are condemning me becuase they are not relevant to me . i have never been unfauthful and never will be  I have never committed adultery and never will.Your  words apply to those who are unfaithful to their spouses, and even then they can be forgiven and many marriages have survived unfaithfullness and gone on to be really good marriages again.
Thank Goodness for Jesus and his death on the cross, that we can be forgiven and we can all be washed clean.

Quote Posted By Chosenone Absolutely none of the words that you have quoted are condemning me becuase they are not relevant to me . i have never been unfauthful and never will be  I have never committed adultery and never will.Your  words apply to those who are unfaithful to their spouses, and even then they can be forgiven and many marriages have survived unfaithfullness and gone on to be really good marriages again.
Thank Goodness for Jesus and his death on the cross, that we can be forgiven and we can all be washed clean.

You Told me your Remarried, so Acording to What God Said, Your Living in Adultery, But you Do not Accept Gods Word, When He Said, If you Put Away your Wife or your Husband  and you marry another you Commit Adultery.

There is only One Cause for Divorce and thats Forncation.. And so Jesus said

Let me Break up the Scriptures so you can see More Clearly

Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery

Matt 5:33 and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery

Matt 19:10 and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

You Told me Before, that Jesus said you can Remarrie, but no were in the Bible did Jesus Say this... As you can See Above, no were did Jesus Say you can Remarrie. Both Scriptures Clearly Say, that if you Marry another, you Commit Adultery...

You are Out of Context. Adding Words to the bible as what it says in Rev 22:18 . Becarful how you do that. I do not Know what Kind of Bible you Have, I searched and Study about this, and what you say is WRONG.

As it is Written 

For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth;

but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:

but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Romans 7:2-3

The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth
1 Cor 7:39

Isaiah 35:8 - And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

 
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matt 18:19-20 (KJV)

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 14:51:57

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matt 18:19-20 (KJV)

Just KNEW you two would love each other. However I dont think he agrees that you are married to the first person that you have sex with even if you are raped. maybe you could both argue that one out.
I will leave you both to share on quoting millions of verses and highlighting AND COLOURING IN RED the verses about HOW THOSE WHO COMMITT ADULTERY WILL BE JUDGED AND GO TO HELL and condemning everyone, and ignoring all the verses that are quoted back to you that disprove what you are saying and I hope you enjoy each other! Are you sure you are not related or something?SAD......................

Quote from: chosenone on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 02:48:17

Just KNEW you two would love each other. However I dont think he agrees that you are married to the first person that you have sex with even if you are raped. maybe you could both argue that one out.
I will leave you both to share on quoting millions of verses and highlighting AND COLOURING IN RED the verses about HOW THOSE WHO COMMITT ADULTERY WILL BE JUDGED AND GO TO HELL and condemning everyone, and ignoring all the verses that are quoted back to you that disprove what you are saying and I hope you enjoy each other! Are you sure you are not related or something?SAD......................

Is this your Excuse you will make to God?  For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. 23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Mark 4:22 -


Knowing that God Spoke the Word, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matt 19:4-6

God will Not make His Word Void For No One, There is No Respect of Persons,

It does not Matter why, We are With out Excuse...Jesus Does not ForGive any one unless they Repent and Sin no more. As it is Written John 8:11

let The Word of GOD be True

Jesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

(For by grace are ye saved through faith); and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:8

And So For this Cause, there is Noting we Can Do , Jesus Died, on the Cross Because we all Have Sinned and Come Short of the Glory of GOD ....So Now we Come To Jesus By Faith and we Repent and Sin no more John 8:11

((For we Know by Grace ye Are Saved Eph 2:5))

And So as Long as People Remain In Sin they are Not Under Grace, Because as it is Written, Grace and Sin Does not Abound...

It does not Matter What Kind of Sin you Commit, If you Bring No Fruits ment For RepentanceMatthew 3:8 you have Not BEEN Forgiven.

As it is Written For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2 Cor 7:10-

It does not Matter How Many Times People Confess There Sins, God will Not Forgive, Unless they Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance
Luke 3:8

And So If we Repent and Sin no more John 8:11,  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

The Word of God Judges,

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

Isaiah 35:8 - And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

QuoteJesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

It's a shame that you have almost no biblical knowledge and absolutely no wisdom in how to use what little you have.

Jesus says that your are not to divorce your wives TO marry another.

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 14:45:17

QuoteJesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

It's a shame that you have almost no biblical knowledge and absolutely no wisdom in how to use what little you have.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperersRomans 1:28-

Ok then Tell me ,

Were Jesus Said As Long as Your Wife or Husband is Alive,   You can Remarrie?

When you Find it Let me Know

As it is Written 

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18

For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth;

but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:

but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Romans 7:2-3

The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth
1 Cor 7:39

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 14:53:05

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 14:45:17

QuoteJesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

It's a shame that you have almost no biblical knowledge and absolutely no wisdom in how to use what little you have.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperersRomans 1:28-

Ok then Tell me ,

Were Jesus Said As Long as Your Wife or Husband is Alive,   You can Remarrie?

When you Find it Let me Know

As it is Written 

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18

For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth;

but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:

but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Romans 7:2-3

The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth
1 Cor 7:39

Have you done no background study of the culture and context of when Christ said those words?  Because you are totally construing them out of context... you are perverting God's words with a modern day world view.

Analyzing the Greek would also be helpful.. the english translations are so horrible.

The context is that if you improperly divorce your wife (not providing her with a writ of divorce per se) to marry another (with the second to be wife in mind when you divorce the first).. you are in the wrong.

As long as the civil contract was in effect, both parties would remain bound to one another until one or the other dies.

In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:3 -

This is Why There is So many bibles Today, When God says,If you Divorce and Marry another you commit Adultery, Ohhh Let me get my NIV bible, Or my Greek or Latain Dictionaries   , Lets Seek Through all Mans Wisdom , To Change God...Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Mark 7:13

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 1 Cor 1:20-... 

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1 Cor 3:18-19

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Cor 11:12 -

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Tim 4:3-


For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:4

- Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 2 Corinthians 5:11

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:18:55
Ohhh Oh Ok, This is Why There is So many bibles Today, When God says, thy Shalt not Commit Adultery, Let me get my NIV bible, Or my Greek or Latain Dictionaries, Lets Seek Through all Mans Wisdom, To Change God...

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.1 Cor 1:20-... 

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1 Cor 3:18-19

Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Mark 7:13

 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Cor 11:12 -

 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Tim 4:3-

 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:3 -

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:4

- Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 2 Corinthians 5:11

It's the original Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic that matter.  English translations pale in comparison.  Then there is the problem of discerning just what exactly they were saying that was applicable to the culture at the time.  It's a herculean task!

Besides.. the Bible was never intended to be assembled into one book and made available to everyone!.. because he knew that doing so would cause all the doctrinal issues we have today.

I view the bible very much like I view the tree that Adam and Eve ate from.  The bible gives us knowledge that we have no clue how to use.. we treat it like it wont hurt is.. just as when Adam and Eve ate that fruit.

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 14:45:17

QuoteJesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

It's a shame that you have almost no biblical knowledge and absolutely no wisdom in how to use what little you have.

Jesus says that your are not to divorce your wives TO marry another.

Yea!  you moron.

When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:43:24
When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:49:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:43:24
When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

If you Would, Look in the Bible to Prove man Marries, You untill then

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:55:29

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:49:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:43:24
When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

If you Would, Look in the Bible to Prove man Marries, You untill then

I do look in the Bible... and it proves that if you divorce your wife (without the specific purpose of marrying another).. and give her a PROPER bill of divorce then you are eligible to remarry.

But if you divorce her in the Jewish custom (whereas the Civil Roman Law remains in effect) you are both bound to each other until one of you dies.

Clear as a bell when you understand the underlying culture and specific problem Jesus was trying to address when he spoke... men would basically strand women for life by 'putting them away' via the Jewish custom, thereby making them ineligible to re-marry for the rest of their lives.)

The fact that you do not know this history or specific problem Jesus was trying to address shows that you are a woefully inadequate teacher on this matter.

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 16:01:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:55:29

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:49:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:43:24
When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

If you Would, Look in the Bible to Prove man Marries, You untill then

I do look in the Bible... and it proves that if you divorce your wife (without for the specific purpose of marrying another).. and giving her a PROPER bill of divorce then you are eligible to remarry.

But if you divorce her in the Jewish custom (whereas the Civil Roman Law remains in effect) you are both bound to each other until one of you dies.

Clear as a bell when you understand the underlying culture and specific problem Jesus was trying to address when he spoke.

Were Does Jesus say That?...Jesus said if any One Marries Her that is Put Away Commits Adultery...Matt 19:10

Who ever Puts away his Wife and Marries Another Commits Adultery...Luke 16:18



I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
Rev 22:18

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 16:05:09

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 16:01:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:55:29

Quote from: Tantor on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:49:06

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:43:24
When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

If you Would, Look in the Bible to Prove man Marries, You untill then

I do look in the Bible... and it proves that if you divorce your wife (without for the specific purpose of marrying another).. and giving her a PROPER bill of divorce then you are eligible to remarry.

But if you divorce her in the Jewish custom (whereas the Civil Roman Law remains in effect) you are both bound to each other until one of you dies.

Clear as a bell when you understand the underlying culture and specific problem Jesus was trying to address when he spoke.

Were Does Jesus say That?...Jesus said if any One Marries Her that is Put Away Commits Adultery...Matt 19:10

Who ever Puts away his Wife and Marries Another Commits Adultery...Luke 16:18



I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
Rev 22:18

And he is correct.. 'put away' is not the same as divorce.   If you 'put away' your wife and remarry.. you are committing adultery which is correct.  Even in the sorely lacking version of the bible you quote, the translators had the wisdom to not equate 'put away'(apoluo) as being equal to divorce (apostasion).

To 'put away' would be akin to sending your wife back to her parents while retaining her dowry and not giving her an official bill of divorce and going along your merry way and re-marrying.  (see the problem!).  Jesus was addressing this custom specifically when he was talking there.

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I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
Rev 22:18

I would also be careful how you use this verse you quoted.. as at the time Revelations was written.. a good portion of the New Testament (including a lot of John's writings) had not been written... so if you really believe that verse applies to the entire Bible.. then you just threw out about 8-9 books of the new testament, because Chronologically they were written after Revelations.

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Quote from: chosenone on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 02:48:17

Just KNEW you two would love each other. However I dont think he agrees that you are married to the first person that you have sex with even if you are raped. maybe you could both argue that one out.
I will leave you both to share on quoting millions of verses and highlighting AND COLOURING IN RED the verses about HOW THOSE WHO COMMITT ADULTERY WILL BE JUDGED AND GO TO HELL and condemning everyone, and ignoring all the verses that are quoted back to you that disprove what you are saying and I hope you enjoy each other! Are you sure you are not related or something?SAD......................

Is this your Excuse you will make to God?  For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. 23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Mark 4:22 -


Knowing that God Spoke the Word, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matt 19:4-6

God will Not make His Word Void For No One, There is No Respect of Persons,

It does not Matter why, We are With out Excuse...Jesus Does not ForGive any one unless they Repent and Sin no more. As it is Written John 8:11

let The Word of GOD be True

Jesus Said Clearly,, If you Divorce and Remarry You Commit Adultery....Matt 5:32...Matt 19:9-10...Mark 10:12....Luke 16:18

(For by grace are ye saved through faith); and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:8

And So For this Cause, there is Noting we Can Do , Jesus Died, on the Cross Because we all Have Sinned and Come Short of the Glory of GOD ....So Now we Come To Jesus By Faith and we Repent and Sin no more John 8:11

((For we Know by Grace ye Are Saved Eph 2:5))

And So as Long as People Remain In Sin they are Not Under Grace, Because as it is Written, Grace and Sin Does not Abound...

It does not Matter What Kind of Sin you Commit, If you Bring No Fruits ment For RepentanceMatthew 3:8 you have Not BEEN Forgiven.

As it is Written For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2 Cor 7:10-

It does not Matter How Many Times People Confess There Sins, God will Not Forgive, Unless they Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance
Luke 3:8

And So If we Repent and Sin no more John 8:11,  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

The Word of God Judges,

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

Isaiah 35:8 - And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

I wil make no excuse to God becuase I have never been unfaithful in my life, so why would I?. I will be overjoyed to meet God becuase Jesus is Lord of my life.

Quote Posted by chosenone.. I will be overjoyed to meet God becuase Jesus is Lord of my life.

This is What the Day of the LORD is Please READ

Amos 5:18- Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you?

The day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.  As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

Isaiah 13:9 - Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Isaiah 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: aAnd the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

Isaiah 34:3 - Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood. 4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll


Jer 16:4 - They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

Job 39:27- Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high? 28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place. 29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off. 30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.

Luke 17:36 - Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Matt 24:27- For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the Eagles be gathered together.

Jer 9:22 - Speak, Thus saith the LORD, Even the carcases of men shall fall as dung upon the open field, and as the handful after the harvestman, and none shall gather them.

Ezek 39:17- And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

Rev 19:17- And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Rev 19:21 - And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Rev 19:15 - And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS

Know this One thing, if you Have Sin When The Lord Comes, you will Remain in Them, and there is no Second Chances... Come to God now and Repent while God Still Can Be Found. Be for it is Too Late. No Respect of Persons

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isaiah 55:6-7

Rev 22:11- He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


Rev 16:15- Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.   

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 19:56:32

Quote Posted by chosenone.. I will be overjoyed to meet God becuase Jesus is Lord of my life.

This is What the Day of the LORD is Please READ

Amos 5:18- Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you?

The day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.  As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

Isaiah 13:9 - Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Isaiah 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: aAnd the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

Isaiah 34:3 - Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood. 4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll


Jer 16:4 - They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

Job 39:27- Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high? 28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place. 29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off. 30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.

Luke 17:36 - Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Matt 24:27- For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the Eagles be gathered together.

Jer 9:22 - Speak, Thus saith the LORD, Even the carcases of men shall fall as dung upon the open field, and as the handful after the harvestman, and none shall gather them.

Ezek 39:17- And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

Rev 19:17- And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Rev 19:21 - And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Rev 19:15 - And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS

Know this One thing, if you Have Sin When The Lord Comes, you will Remain in Them, and there is no Second Chances... Come to God now and Repent while God Still Can Be Found. Be for it is Too Late. No Respect of Persons

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isaiah 55:6-7

Rev 22:11- He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


Rev 16:15- Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.   

Well, I am looking foward to seeing Jesus face to face. Arent you elijah? Or maybe you will still be so busy typing out words of hate and codemnation that you will be too busy to notice while we are all full of joy at meeting Him.

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When Ever you can Find me Some Scriptures in the Bible Too Prove that you Can Remarrie Wile the Other is Alive ...Then we will Talk

You did that for yourself... but your eyes are closed because you do not understand the circumstances and culture when Jesus said those words.

A good place to start would be the customs of marriage and divorce at the time.. primarily Jewish and Roman practices.. understanding that Roman practices would constitute the civil law at the time.

If you Would, Look in the Bible to Prove man Marries, You untill then

I do look in the Bible... and it proves that if you divorce your wife (without for the specific purpose of marrying another).. and giving her a PROPER bill of divorce then you are eligible to remarry.

But if you divorce her in the Jewish custom (whereas the Civil Roman Law remains in effect) you are both bound to each other until one of you dies.

Clear as a bell when you understand the underlying culture and specific problem Jesus was trying to address when he spoke.

Were Does Jesus say That?...Jesus said if any One Marries Her that is Put Away Commits Adultery...Matt 19:10

Who ever Puts away his Wife and Marries Another Commits Adultery...Luke 16:18



I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
Rev 22:18

And he is correct.. 'put away' is not the same as divorce.   If you 'put away' your wife and remarry.. you are committing adultery which is correct.  Even in the sorely lacking version of the bible you quote, the translators had the wisdom to not equate 'put away'(apoluo) as being equal to divorce (apostasion).

To 'put away' would be akin to sending your wife back to her parents while retaining her dowry and not giving her an official bill of divorce and going along your merry way and re-marrying.  (see the problem!).  Jesus was addressing this custom specifically when he was talking there.

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I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
Rev 22:18

I would also be careful how you use this verse you quoted.. as at the time Revelations was written.. a good portion of the New Testament (including a lot of John's writings) had not been written... so if you really believe that verse applies to the entire Bible.. then you just threw out about 8-9 books of the new testament, because Chronologically they were written after Revelations.

I agree. God was angry with those who out away their wives without giving them a divorce, thus leaving the wives with no possibility of remarrying.
A divorce on the other hand is the complete and total dissolution and ending of a marriage by legal means.This leaves the women free to remarry as she is now single again. (or the man if the women divorces him).
Putting away is not final, divorce is. 

CHOSENONE,
Hello
You think I am judging you and everyone in the world. I come to you with love and not hate. I come to tell you the truth not for myself but for the world. Paul taught the gospel out of love with all charity. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:21 (KJV)
I cannot agree with you. I am trying to open your eyes to the truth.  Please put yourself down and be humble. Take a real good look at what Jesus is telling us.   


1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
1 Peter 4:1-2 (KJV)

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Matt 10:38-39 (KJV)

17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
1 John 4:17-19 (KJV)


Jesus 1st loved us, so how can we crucify him daily with our sins

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 6:6 (KJV)

With love because I care for your souls!!

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 12:28:02
CHOSENONE,
Hello
You think I am judging you and everyone in the world. I come to you with love and not hate. I come to tell you the truth not for myself but for the world. Paul taught the gospel out of love with all charity. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:21 (KJV)
I cannot agree with you.

And you have done a fine job of lovingly telling sister Chosenone that she is in sin and you will answer to God for your un-biblical condemnation of Christ's flock. All you have presented is your opinion, and not the Word of God's ultimate authority which renders your opinion null.

What to do about a second marriage is not the same as suggesting that scripture doesn't present difficult texts on the subject.  Grace and forgiveness are also scriptural!  But one can not twist meanings in order to have a more favorable outcome.  It is a serious issue because the author of scripture made it one, not the other way around.   But no issue is beyond the cleansing blood of Jesus.  Grace doesn't require reinterpreting the ideal in order to be in effect.

 WHAT I SAID WAS IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIVING HUSBAND OR WIFE THEN YOU COMMIT ADULTERY AND THAT IS SIN. AND THAT NOT MY WORDS BUT THE BIBLE.
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and  whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18 (KJV)

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matt 12:37 (KJV)

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matt 7:19-23 (KJV)

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2 Cor 7:10 (KJV)

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 13:32:06
WHAT I SAID WAS IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIVING HUSBAND OR WIFE THEN YOU COMMIT ADULTERY AND THAT IS SIN. AND THAT NOT MY WORDS BUT THE BIBLE.

The words are if you remarry after only 'putting away" your wife you commit adultery...  But 'putting away" is not the same as divorce.

So they are your words.. not the bibles.

Please quit perverting God's... I beg of you.

Quote from: Tantor on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 13:35:51

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 13:32:06
WHAT I SAID WAS IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIVING HUSBAND OR WIFE THEN YOU COMMIT ADULTERY AND THAT IS SIN. AND THAT NOT MY WORDS BUT THE BIBLE.

The words are if you remarry after only 'putting away" your wife you commit adultery...  But 'putting away" is not the same as divorce.

So they are your words.. not the bibles.

Please quit perverting God's... I beg of you.

Amen

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2 Tim 2:16

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 15:27:09
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2 Tim 2:16

But isn't that telling yourself to shut up?

Quote from: fanuvmxpx on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 12:41:26

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 12:28:02
CHOSENONE,
Hello
You think I am judging you and everyone in the world. I come to you with love and not hate. I come to tell you the truth not for myself but for the world. Paul taught the gospel out of love with all charity. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:21 (KJV)
I cannot agree with you.

And you have done a fine job of lovingly telling sister Chosenone that she is in sin and you will answer to God for your un-biblical condemnation of Christ's flock. All you have presented is your opinion, and not the Word of God's ultimate authority which renders your opinion null.

Thank you fanuvmxpx for your concern> I appriciate it. Dont worry, I know that I, and others like me who have had a divorce for Biblical reasons are not in sin, for being married. God told me 2 years before I even met my husband that I would be marrying again, and our marriage is so blessed. She will indeed answer for her judgement and condemnation, so I have no  concern there.
God Bless you.

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 13:32:06
WHAT I SAID WAS IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIVING HUSBAND OR WIFE THEN YOU COMMIT ADULTERY AND THAT IS SIN. AND THAT NOT MY WORDS BUT THE BIBLE.
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and  whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18 (KJV)

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matt 12:37 (KJV)

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matt 7:19-23 (KJV)

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2 Cor 7:10 (KJV)

if you marry after divorce you do not have a living husband or wife. Divorce is the ending of a marriage in Gods eyes and in the laws eyes. The only living husband I have is the one I am married to, and he is brilliant!

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Tue Dec 23, 2008 - 12:28:02
CHOSENONE,
Hello
You think I am judging you and everyone in the world. I come to you with love and not hate. I come to tell you the truth not for myself but for the world. Paul taught the gospel out of love with all charity. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:21 (KJV)
I cannot agree with you. I am trying to open your eyes to the truth.  Please put yourself down and be humble. Take a real good look at what Jesus is telling us.  


1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
1 Peter 4:1-2 (KJV)

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Matt 10:38-39 (KJV)

17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
1 John 4:17-19 (KJV)


Jesus 1st loved us, so how can we crucify him daily with our sins

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 6:6 (KJV)

With love because I care for your souls!!

Your posts are not loving they are condemning and arrogant and you ignore all the verses that you are given that totally disprove your 'theory; such as the woman at the well and the way you say that there is no such thing as fornication!
the advice that you gave me I give you, put YOUSELF down and be humble for  change.
Let me care for my own soul thank you, I dont need OR want, you to do it. I am right in the middle of Gods will for my life and I love it. I have the most wonderful godly marriage and husband and I have never committed adultery ever in my life so I have nothing to change.I am so blessed and so grateful to God for what he has done for me. please stop lecturing me and maybe go and think about your own sins and stop pointing out things that you say wrongly are sins in us, that would benefit you and leave us in peace.