Will Sunday worship keep Christians from Eternal Life?

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

Beam: #68
The command to observe days are found only in the Sinai covenant and that covenant was not concerning salvation.   God specifically told Moses that the covenant was about: 6 you[/size] will be for me a kingdom of priests[/size] and a holy nation.'[/size] These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites." Ex19  The commands for the keeping of days in the Sinai covenant were ritual commands.  and, of course, had nothing to do with salvation.   Just how do you suppose the Sabbath command of the Sinai covenant morphed into being a salvational issue so that the supposed prophet of the SDAs would write the following: [/size]It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy[/size][/color] unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." {6T 356.4}[/size]

...says the Beam beaming in all his glory.

So <God specifically told Moses that the covenant was about: you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation>, but that <was not concerning salvation>. Concerning what then will anyone ever be for God "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation"?
Or when we concerning the exact same thing in Revelation or in Hebrews, read the exact same thing, you want to tell us it is <not concerning salvation>?

When you read the exact same thing as in the NT in the OT, you prefer to ignore it is God expressing his WILL for his people. Now you want us to believe you God's Will changed, that God in fact changed his Will for his people? Because they are not of the same genes and blood, you say. It is now concerning salvation, but not in the Covenant GOD at Sinai covenanted! What monstrous ideology!

These are ALL, YOUR words YOU are speaking to yourself. Don't make them Words of God.  It is <a salvational issue>.

[piecrust]

...says the Beam beaming in all his glory.

So <God specifically told Moses that the covenant was about: you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation>, but that <was not concerning salvation>. Concerning what then will anyone ever be for God "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation"?
Or when we concerning the exact same thing in Revelation or in Hebrews, read the exact same thing, you want to tell us it is <not concerning salvation>?

When you read the exact same thing as in the NT in the OT, you prefer to ignore it is God expressing his WILL for his people. Now you want us to believe you God's Will changed, that God in fact changed his Will for his people? Because they are not of the same genes and blood, you say. It is now concerning salvation, but not in the Covenant GOD at Sinai covenanted! What monstrous ideology!

These are ALL, YOUR words YOU are speaking to yourself. Don't make them Words of God.  It is <a salvational issue>.

You really do have a problem.

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

The only difference between us is I realise I have a <salvational issue>; you don't. Why don't you? Because you are satisfied you don't. No more!

[piecrust]

The only difference between us is I realise I have a <salvational issue>; you don't. Why don't you? Because you are satisfied you don't. No more!

Because I am saved.

[seekingHiswisdom]

 

Because I am saved.

and 

[seekingHiswisdom]

 Will Sunday worship keep Christians from Eternal Life?

Why in the world would it?

"The Jewish Sabbath" or Shabbat from Friday sundown until Saturday Sundown

Purpose of Shabbat
Shabbat (Sabbath in English) is a weekly occasion of rest, from sundown on Friday evening to sundown on Saturday evening. Despite the many rabbinical regulations surrounding Shabbat, its primary purpose has always been: to grant us rest, to make us whole, and to soothe the frayed nerves and tired joints that come from a week's work. God makes provision for our weakness through Shabbat, and is one of the most sacred times in Scripture, for God himself sanctified the seventh day immediately following Creation, as recounted in Genesis.
https://jewsforjesus.org/jewish-resources/community/jewish-holidays/shabbat/

God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

God commanded in His 4th commandment to Moses "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy."

NOTE: God does not say to gather and worship on the sabbath. He says to "keep it holy." Big difference.

Fast forward some 6 thousand odd years and entering the scene was Jesus. The one who the Father sent to fulfill prophesy and offer mankind a new beginning with an eternal life reward.

Why do you think Jesus' tomb was found empty on a Sunday morning. The first day of the week for all. ~ The beginning of the work week for most. I submit it was because life, as it had been known until then,, was about to change and start anew for His followers. It was the beginning, not the end.

I submit that is because with Jesus having been crucified, and His tomb found empty on a Sunday morning EVERTHING began anew. Anew for you, for me, for all true faith believing people who call themselves Christians.

Would that not be the appropriate time to gather and worship and rejoice in the Lord? He is risen. He is risen. He is risen, indeed.

Do you really believe that the weekly day of rest,  which was the command from God the Father, be appropriate as we worship His Son who gave His life that we might also have life, and have it eternally? I say no, not on the sabbath that was in reverence to God the Father but also in observance of a day of rest. NO. That day should be one of quiet solitude of prayer and reverence for what was done for us, NOT resting up from a hard weeks work.  We are anew in Christ. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. Giving thanks always to the Father for His sending His son for us.

Sunday is the appropriate day to worship and celebrate him if you are only going to do that one day a week. I prefer to do that as much as possible 24/7, though my human weaknesses do interfere at times.

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

What are you talking about?! Sunday per se IS being worshipED, for 2000 years NOW, by NONE other than Christians, like nothing else, for and AS, <Eternal Life>! Galatians 4!!!!

...and you ask,

SHW: #75
Will Sunday worship keep Christians from Eternal Life?

[4WD]

Will Sunday worship keep Christians from Eternal Life?

Of course not; but then neither will Saturday worship keep Christians from Eternal Life, nor will Monday worship, nor Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, nor Friday worship; assuming of course the worship is worship of God.

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

SHW: #75
God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

Just explain with CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE and RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE, What did God DO that He Rested on the Seventh Day?

[piecrust]

Just explain with CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE and RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE, What did God DO that He Rested on the Seventh Day?

I think you already know.  By the way, He actually CEASED.

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

Don't answer!

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

SHW: #75
Jesus having been crucified, and His tomb found empty on a Sunday morning EVERTHING began anew.

With Jesus having been CRUCIFIED "on the fourteenth day of the First Month for you (Israel)", "on the first day they KILLED the passover The Preparation of the Passover", Mark 14:12 Matthew 26:17 Luke 22:7 John 13:1,

and with his Body having been BURIED "on the fifteenth day of the First Month for you (Israel)", "late on That Day the Preparation ("the Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath" 'Friday' which had started in Mark 15:42 and which was ending...) being mid-afternoon the Sabbath approaching" Luke 23:54,

and with his TOMB having been found Opened on the seventeenth day of the First Month "on the First Day of the week it being dusk early of dark still" John 19:1,

and EMPTY, "on the First Day of the week in the deep of night in the morning" Luke 24:1,2,

it follows without a doubt,

His RESURRECTION had been "Late on the Sabbath in the mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week when there was a great earthquake and the angel cast the stone from the tomb..." Matthew 28:1-4,

as "...explained the angel to the women" in Matthew 28:5, soon after "He on the First Day of the week had first APPEARED to Mary Magdalene as the Risen". Mark 16:9.

[seekingHiswisdom]

Just explain with CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE and RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE, What did God DO that He Rested on the Seventh Day?

CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE

Gen 2 :2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE,

Hebrews 4: 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Do YOU need an interpreter???

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

SHW: #82

CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE

Gen 2 :2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE,

Hebrews 4: 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Do YOU need an interpreter???

I don't need an interpreter, especially not one like you who OMIT IGNORE AND SLIGHT the really relevant Scripture(s) about What God DID that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

Because Genesis 2:2,3 "And on the Seventh Day God ended his work which he had made; and He rested on the Seventh Day from all his work which he had made" tells me nothing I could not have read myself; and Hebrews 4:4 tells me everything Genesis 2:2,3 tells me and nothing else UNLESS I read the really relevant OTHER Scripture(s) which tell me What God "DID / WORKED / ACCOMPLISHED / FINISHED / ENDED", that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

If you have nothing to say don't say nothing.

But now I don't WANT any further answer from YOU, thank you. Your loss en ek's min gespin.

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

No matter what the nick-name of the author or the general content of a post, when the Sabbath is its theme or subject-matter, I can tell by its ARROGANT TONE AND INSINUATIVE INSULTING STYLE, that it comes from a Seventh day Adventist or an ex SDA. 

[piecrust]

No matter what the nick-name of the author or the general content of a post, when the Sabbath is its theme or subject-matter, I can tell by its ARROGANT TONE AND INSINUATIVE INSULTING STYLE, that it comes from a Seventh day Adventist or an ex SDA.

And none of your comments/posts are arrogant?

[Gerhard Ebersöhn]

Pie: #85
And none of your comments/posts are arrogant?

Arrogant enough to dare you to tell this forum what sort of sabbath you believe in but are too timid to confess in the Name of Christ or God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

[piecrust]

Arrogant enough to dare you to tell this forum what sort of sabbath you believe in but are too timid to confess in the Name of Christ or God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

So belief in the sabbath is what saves you?

[seekingHiswisdom]

I don't need an interpreter, especially not one like you who OMIT IGNORE AND SLIGHT the really relevant Scripture(s) about What God DID that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

Because Genesis 2:2,3 "And on the Seventh Day God ended his work which he had made; and He rested on the Seventh Day from all his work which he had made" tells me nothing I could not have read myself; and Hebrews 4:4 tells me everything Genesis 2:2,3 tells me and nothing else UNLESS I read the really relevant OTHER Scripture(s) which tell me What God "DID / WORKED / ACCOMPLISHED / FINISHED / ENDED", that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

If you have nothing to say don't say nothing.

But now I don't WANT any further answer from YOU, thank you. Your loss en ek's min gespin.

I gave you what you asked for. Therefore no further answer will be coming from me.

You asked, " Just explain with CONTEXTUAL OT SCRIPTURE and RELEVANT NT SCRIPTURE, What did God DO that He Rested on the Seventh Day?
I answered with scripture that requires no interpretation to normal people. And did so , so you could not twist what I said into your strangely warped beliefs.You are so full of it, it boggles ones mind.

"I triple dog dare you to shut up?"

[piecrust]

I don't need an interpreter, especially not one like you who OMIT IGNORE AND SLIGHT the really relevant Scripture(s) about What God DID that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

Because Genesis 2:2,3 "And on the Seventh Day God ended his work which he had made; and He rested on the Seventh Day from all his work which he had made" tells me nothing I could not have read myself; and Hebrews 4:4 tells me everything Genesis 2:2,3 tells me and nothing else UNLESS I read the really relevant OTHER Scripture(s) which tell me What God "DID / WORKED / ACCOMPLISHED / FINISHED / ENDED", that He Rested on the Seventh Day.

If you have nothing to say don't say nothing.

But now I don't WANT any further answer from YOU, thank you. Your loss en ek's min gespin.

Have you heard of the double negative?

[Hobie]

So belief in the sabbath is what saves you?

No, connecting with God in a relationship in which you follow His will is the importance here or you may find Him saying, 'I do not know you.'

[Texas Conservative]

No, connecting with God in a relationship in which you follow His will is the importance here or you may find Him saying, 'I do not know you.'

You are teaching Jesus + Sabbath Keeping.  Adding additional items to the gospel is a false gospel.

[Rella]

An oldie brought forward because of the title.

@Hobie and @Amo

What do you think Paul meant especially vs. 5 and 6 in

Romans 14?

King James Version

�1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

[Amo]

The ten commandments are not mentioned or addressed in Romans 14. Here is what Paul said specifically regarding the commandments of God.

1Cor 7:17 Only, let each one live the life which the Lord has assigned him, and to which God has called him [for each person is unique and is accountable for his choices and conduct, let him walk in this way]. This is the rule I make in all the churches. 18 Was anyone at the time of his calling [from God already] circumcised? He is not to [h]become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called while uncircumcised? He is not to be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is keeping the commandments of God. 20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was [when he was] called.(AMP)

[Cathlodox]

The ten commandments are not mentioned or addressed in Romans 14. Here is what Paul said specifically regarding the commandments of God.

The Apostolic Church in conjunction with God already stated Christians didn't need to be circumcised, keep the Sabbath or ANY OTHER Old Covenant ceremonial laws. You can read about this fact in Acts 15.

Additionally, when you see "the law" in Scripture it means every single word in the 1st 5 books of the Bible. It was ONE LAW and within that one law were moral or natural commandments and CEREMONIAL commandments. The Sabbath was part of the ceremonial.

[Amo]

The Apostolic Church in conjunction with God already stated Christians didn't need to be circumcised, keep the Sabbath or ANY OTHER Old Covenant ceremonial laws. You can read about this fact in Acts 15.

Additionally, when you see "the law" in Scripture it means every single word in the 1st 5 books of the Bible. It was ONE LAW and within that one law were moral or natural commandments and CEREMONIAL commandments. The Sabbath was part of the ceremonial.

Lies upon lies. The fourth commandment was not part of the ceremonial laws, and you know it. Acts 15 says nothing about not keeping the commandments of God, but only about issues regarding the laws of Moses. Those who will not make a difference between that written with God's own finger, and spoken to Israel with His own mouth in a most awesome display of power, and those laws God allowed Moses a sinner to write, will answer to God for this. Not me.

You cannot wipe out the testimony of God's word from one end of scripture to the other concerning His commandments with impunity. Regardless of how many times the NT admonishes us to keep the commandments of God which includes the fourth, you wish to compound them with the laws of Moses that you may declare the fourth commandment null and void. Meanwhile you support civil legislation commanding all people to observe another day as a sabbath unto the Lord.

If law enforced sabbath observance is wrong for one day, why would it not be for any other as well. This hypocrisy belies your argument, and suggests deception. By our fruits are we to be known. How say you, this day which the Lord has determined and calls his own in scripture must not be kept though God Himself commanded such, but this other day which we say the Lord established apart from scripture through us, must be kept by the power of civil legislation?

What, God canceled one day to be observed

as a command because such was wrong, then told you to make another day to be kept by civil legislation in its place? What sense does that make? None, which is why such is nonsense. If keeping a sabbath by law is wrong, then keeping a sabbath by law is wrong. Or do you now preach that two wrongs make a right?

Last book, and last chapter.

Rev 12:17  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 22:14  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 

The saints keep God's commandments, right up to the end.

[Texas Conservative]

Romans 6:14  For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Jesus + Keeping The Law as a requirement for salvation is a false gospel.  The Ten Commandments were part of the law. 

Galatians 5:4

4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

[Cathlodox]

Amo said: Lies upon lies. The fourth commandment was not part of the ceremonial laws, and you know it. Acts 15 says nothing about not keeping the commandments of God, but only about issues regarding the laws of Moses.

It was ONE LAW Amo and within are both ceremonial and moral commandments.

Luke 2, 22
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
(As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.

You need to unlearn the lies you've been pumped full of Amo. Look below and realize that the Commandments were ONE LAW, a unit, EVERYTHING contained in the 1st 5 books of the Bible.

Deut 5, 30
Go say to them, Get you into your tents again.But as for thee, stand thou here by me, and I will speak unto thee all the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which thou shalt teach them, that they may do them in the land which I give them to possess it.

The ceremonial law was done away with by Christ Himself who fulfilled it and if you can't tell the difference between a ceremonial law and a moral law I'd recommend you spend some time working on your reading comprehension.

[Amo]

Romans 6:14  For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Jesus + Keeping The Law as a requirement for salvation is a false gospel.  The Ten Commandments were part of the law. 

Galatians 5:4

4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Yes, anyone who thinks they are justified by keeping the law, has fallen from grace. What does this have to do with faithful Christians wanting to obey God's commandments because Jesus and His apostles admonished us to do so right up to the last book and chapter of the NT?

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Jhn 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jhn 15:10  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Are you suggesting that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ admonished people to be justified by the law, by telling people they should keep the commandments of God? Even making such a prerequisite as it were, of loving our Savior, or receiving the Spirit of Truth? Is this what you are suggesting? If so why? If not, then why do you accuse me or others of thinking we are justified by the law because we agree with these teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?

[Texas Conservative]

Yes, anyone who thinks they are justified by keeping the law, has fallen from grace. What does this have to do with faithful Christians wanting to obey God's commandments because Jesus and His apostles admonished us to do so right up to the last book and chapter of the NT?

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Jhn 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jhn 15:10  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Are you suggesting that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ admonished people to be justified by the law, by telling people they should keep the commandments of God? Even making such a prerequisite as it were, of loving our Savior, or receiving the Spirit of Truth? Is this what you are suggesting? If so why? If not, then why do you accuse me or others of thinking we are justified by the law because we agree with these teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?

No, I am suggesting that SDA's who say that worshipping on Sunday is the mark of the beast among other things are trying to be justified by law keeping.

[Amo]

It was ONE LAW Amo and within are both ceremonial and moral commandments.

Luke 2, 22
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
(As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.

You need to unlearn the lies you've been pumped full of Amo. Look below and realize that the Commandments were ONE LAW, a unit, EVERYTHING contained in the 1st 5 books of the Bible.

Deut 5, 30
Go say to them, Get you into your tents again.But as for thee, stand thou here by me, and I will speak unto thee all the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which thou shalt teach them, that they may do them in the land which I give them to possess it.

The ceremonial law was done away with by Christ Himself who fulfilled it and if you can't tell the difference between a ceremonial law and a moral law I'd recommend you spend some time working on your reading comprehension.

No sir, new covenant believers are not subject to the laws of Moses given to him by God specifically for the nation of Israel. You quote to me verses from the old covenant dispensation specific to Israelites, before our Lord Jesus and His disciples addressed the differences between Mosaic law specific to Israel, and the ten commandments of God, relating to new covenant believers which included Gentiles.
Even your quote from Luke is concerning the same.

After our lord fulfilled the requirements of both the God's moral law which all are to be judged by, and His specified ceremonial laws for Israel relating to old covenant faith in the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus for the sins of the world by His life, death, and resurrection, a change took place in relation to these laws. One, the ceremonial was done away with, being only a type of the true. The other being commands related to the proper behavior of God's own in this world toward God himself and humanity, was perfectly demonstrated in the flesh for all of us to see. Becoming a superior expression of God's commandments for all to examine closely, observe, and imitate, than simply the written commands.

Our Lord and the NT itself conclusively testifying that this was for the purpose of establishing and exalting God's law in the lives of his followers, not doing away with or changing any of it. Which testimony a great many choose to reject concerning certain or which ever of the commandments of God, they personally have a problem with keeping. Creating chaos and confusion of God's word, that may the more easily remain in their sins, while professing to be members of Christ's body. Therefore has this and will this battle over and about the commandments of God continue until the end. When our Lord returns and settles all issues and disputes by His literal and sin consuming presence.

Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

[Amo]

No, I am suggesting that SDA's who say that worshipping on Sunday is the mark of the beast among other things are trying to be justified by law keeping.

Well, that's good. I would say that SDA's saying what you suggest above are wrong, but couldn't go as far a you do. I don't think any of us can truly know the exact motives of others concerning such, unless they simply state that they believe they can be justified by keeping God's commandments. As I understand it, no one can have the mark of the beast, until the beast first enforces that mark upon all, by law.

[Hobie]

Galatians 5:18.  "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.

Yes, and where would the Holy Spirit guide you, against God's words written by Him. Of course not...