Isaiah 9:6 translations do not seem to agree.

[Rella]

@DaveW

I copied this from your reply in the Prophecy of Ezekiel 9 thread because your reply struck a note on something for me....

You said:

Actually ALL of Hebrew scripture has multiple levels of meaning.  The rabbis of the first century BC recognized that and divided up the meanings into 4 categories.  PRDS.  Stands for Pardes (plain meaning) Remez (what is hinted at)  Derash (a teaching that can be culled) and Sod (the mystical meaning).  Most of what we call allegory or symbolic falls into the latter category. We westerners find one we like and insist it is the ONLY meaning, which is not true at all. All 4 levels are true.

Alrighty then.

One I have been musing with is Isaiah 9:6 and perhaps you can explain why the discrepancies..... in translations. There is a lot copied from the link provided below and it appears that basically once the modern ( any that are KJV and newer ) were translating they came upon a translation that was not the case back in the day.
I know you likely will not read all of this but at least get through the common translation and into some of the others below that to see what I mean, please.

Isaiah is Old Testament. That is fact.

Isaiah was a major prophet. That is fact.

Isiah, the book is said to have been written 739 and 681 B.C. and a good 700 years before Jesus. That is also alleged fact.

NOW....

If we read what the modern day translators have written concerning
Isaiah 9:6 we see the following.

The following being only some of the not well talked about translations and then 3 of the common ones....(I did not want to post all of them from Bible Hub... you can look for yourselves.

Young's Literal Translation
For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.



Smith's Literal Translation
For a child was born to us, a son was given to us, and the dominion shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, everlasting Father, Captain of Peace.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

Lamsa Bible (Aramaic)
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder: and his name is called Wonderful Counsellor, The Mighty One, The Everlasting God, The Prince of Peace.

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
Because the Child is born to us, and the Son is given to us, and his authority was on his shoulder, and his Name was called The Wonder and The Counselor, God, the Mighty Man of Eternity, the Prince of Peace [and The Father of Eternity]

And most interesting is the JW biblical choice...

The New World Translation
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

Not the run of the mill KJV, NIV, or NAS95

King James Bible
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

NASB 1995
For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

These all basically say the same thing. They suggest that Isaiah prophesied about a son being born yada,yada....

But hold on.......

WHY IS IT THAT THE MORE HEBREW TRANSLATIONS INTO HEBREW TEXTS
ARE SO DIFFERENT.

JPS Tanakh 1917
For a child is born unto us, A son is given unto us; And the government is upon his shoulder; And his name is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;

Brenton Septuagint Translation
For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.

Tanaka
5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

And the Lexham Septuagint:

Isaiah 9:6 (LES): Because a child was born to us; a son was given to us whose leadership came upon his shoulder; and his name is called "Messenger of the Great Council," for I will bring peace upon the rulers and health to him.

ISAIAH 9:6 IN VATICANUS

9.6 B.jpg
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=651#p2513

GREEK TEXT: "...[τὸ ὄνο]μα αὐτοῦ μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος· ἄξω γὰρ εἰρή[νην]..." - (Ἠσαΐας 9:5 LXX-[ B ], Reproduced In Modern Printed Text.)

Some of the even older translations...


October 29, 2012
ISAIAH 9:5-6 LXX VARIANTS AND THE GREAT UNICIAL MANUSCRIPTS OF THE 4TH & 5TH CENTURIES : CODEX SINAITICUS : CODEX ALEXANDRINUS : CODEX VATICANUS ALONG WITH EARLY 1ST-2ND CENTURY SEPTUAGINT REVISIONS : AQUILA : SYMMACHUS : THEODTION

ISAIAH 9:6 IN SINAITICUS

9.6.jpg
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=651#p2513

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( ca ) = Corrector A, who added Gk., ( θαυμαστὸς σύμβολος θεὸς ἰσχυρός ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πατὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος ) in the bottom margin, trying to harmonize the Greek with the Hebrew.

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( cb ) = Corrector B, who added the cross signs ( + ).

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( d ) = Corrector D, who added red dots.

GREEK TEXT: "...θαυμαστὸς σύμβολος θς ἰσχυρός ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος..." - (Ἠσαΐας 9:5 LXX-[ B ], Reproduced In Modern Printed Text.)

CODEX SINAITICUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...Angel of [the] great purpose, for I will bring peace to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ א / S ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 26/10/12.)

CODEX SINAITICUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...Angel of [the] great purpose, [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong god,{*} having delegated power to exercise authority,{#} prince of peace, a father of that age that is to come]], for I am to bring peace..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ א / S ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Correctors marginalia, by Matt13weedhacker 26/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Or "a god [that is] strong" or "a god, a strong-mighty one."
[FOOTNOTE #]: Or "authoritative."

CODEX VATICANUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...the Messenger of Great Counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ B ], The Septuagint, as found in the Codex Vaticanus, translated by Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton c. 1851.)

CODEX VATICANUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...the name of him [is called]: "Angel of [the] great purpose, for I shall bring to princes [peace]..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ B ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS

GREEK TEXT: "...ὅτι παιδίον ἐγεννήθη ἡμῖν, υἱὸς καὶ ἐδόθη ἡμῖν, οὗ ἡ ἀρχὴ ἐγενήθη ἐπὶ τοῦ ὤμου αὐτοῦ, καὶ καλεῖται τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος, [[θαυμαστὸς σύμβουλος, ἰσχυρός, ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πατὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος]] ἐγὼ γὰρ ἄξω εἰρήνην ἐπὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας εἰρήνην καὶ ὑγίειαν αὐτῷ..." - (Page 25, ISAIAH, "THE BOOK OF ISAIAH ACCORDING TO THE SEPTUAGINT (CODEX ALEXANDRINUS)," Translated and Edited by R. R. Ottley, M.A. I. Introduction and Translation with a Parallel Version from the Hebrew, Second Edition, Cambridge : at the University Press 1909.)
http://www26.us.archive.org/stream/bookofisaiahacco00ottl#page/25/mode/1up

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child is born unto us, a son also is given unto us, upon whose shoulder was the government ; and he shall call his name: "Messenger of great counsel" [[Wonderful Counselor, Mighty, Powerful, Prince of Peace, Father of the Age to come]] for I will bring peace upon rulers, peace and health to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], Page 97, ISAIAH, "THE BOOK OF ISAIAH ACCORDING TO THE SEPTUAGINT (CODEX ALEXANDRINUS)," Translated and Edited by R. R. Ottley, M.A. I. Introduction and Translation with a Parallel Version from the Hebrew, Second Edition, Cambridge : at the University Press 1909.)
[FOOTNOTE 6]: Omit "also," B. "his name is called," Aleph,B,Q. "Wonderful," &c. : inserted by A, Alephca, V 91 97 106 &c. and Luc. MSS. In slightly varying forms (so Aq. Theod. Symm. Also): omit "peace," Aleph*, B (after "rulers").
http://www26.us.archive.org/stream/bookofisaiahacco00ottl#page/97/mode/1up

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...the Messenger of great counsel, Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty One, Potentate, Prince of Peace, Father of the age to come..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "English translation of the Septuagint" As found in the Codex Alexandrinus, translated by Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton, c. 1850.)

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...Because a child is born to us, a son also given to us, of whom the beginning [of dominion] has come to be upon his shoulder, and is being called the name of him: "Angel of [the] great purpose [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, prince of peace, father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has come into being for us, a son also given to us, of whom the beginning [of dominion] shall be borne on his shoulders, and the name that he is called [is]: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has been generated for us, a son also given to us, on whose shoulders the beginning [of dominion] shall come to be, and his name is said to be: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has been generated for us, a son also given to us, on whose shoulders the commencement [of the kingdom] shall come to be, and his name is called: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

And I will stop here not posting Eusebius' VARIANT LXX TEXTS OF ISAIAH 9:6 ACCORDING TO EUSEBIUS from https://matt13weedhacker.blogspot.com/2012/10/isaiah-95-6-lxx-variants-and-great.html




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[DaveW]

Hi Rella.   That verse has been kicked around for many centuries.   As I said, Hebrew has various levels of meaning and the majority of these translations are on the Peshat (plain meaning) level.

BTW, be suspicious of any transliteration of Scripture original languages that uses the letter J.  It (both the sound and the letter) did not exist in any language before before about 1000 ad.

And also be leery of the Septuagint.  It was a Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures, originally commissioned by Alexander the Great so he could read the 5 books of Moses.  But it is slanted toward a Greek mindset.

As to the discrepancies, I would take them mostly on what the translator was trying to say, and in the very modern ones (post 1900) trying to avoid copyright issues with other versions.

What do you see as problematic?

From my understanding of it the JPS is correct, except for using that J. 

Pele Yoetz El gibor Avi ad Sar shalom.

His name is all of that.

[Hobie]

@DaveW

I copied this from your reply in the Prophecy of Ezekiel 9 thread because your reply struck a note on something for me....

You said:

Alrighty then.

One I have been musing with is Isaiah 9:6 and perhaps you can explain why the discrepancies..... in translations. There is a lot copied from the link provided below and it appears that basically once the modern ( any that are KJV and newer ) were translating they came upon a translation that was not the case back in the day.
I know you likely will not read all of this but at least get through the common translation and into some of the others below that to see what I mean, please.

Isaiah is Old Testament. That is fact.

Isaiah was a major prophet. That is fact.

Isiah, the book is said to have been written 739 and 681 B.C. and a good 700 years before Jesus. That is also alleged fact.

NOW....

If we read what the modern day translators have written concerning
Isaiah 9:6 we see the following.

The following being only some of the not well talked about translations and then 3 of the common ones....(I did not want to post all of them from Bible Hub... you can look for yourselves.

Young's Literal Translation
For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.



Smith's Literal Translation
For a child was born to us, a son was given to us, and the dominion shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, everlasting Father, Captain of Peace.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

Lamsa Bible (Aramaic)
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder: and his name is called Wonderful Counsellor, The Mighty One, The Everlasting God, The Prince of Peace.

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
Because the Child is born to us, and the Son is given to us, and his authority was on his shoulder, and his Name was called The Wonder and The Counselor, God, the Mighty Man of Eternity, the Prince of Peace [and The Father of Eternity]

And most interesting is the JW biblical choice...

The New World Translation
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

Not the run of the mill KJV, NIV, or NAS95

King James Bible
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

NASB 1995
For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

These all basically say the same thing. They suggest that Isaiah prophesied about a son being born yada,yada....

But hold on.......

WHY IS IT THAT THE MORE HEBREW TRANSLATIONS INTO HEBREW TEXTS
ARE SO DIFFERENT.

JPS Tanakh 1917
For a child is born unto us, A son is given unto us; And the government is upon his shoulder; And his name is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;

Brenton Septuagint Translation
For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.

Tanaka
5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

And the Lexham Septuagint:

Isaiah 9:6 (LES): Because a child was born to us; a son was given to us whose leadership came upon his shoulder; and his name is called "Messenger of the Great Council," for I will bring peace upon the rulers and health to him.

ISAIAH 9:6 IN VATICANUS

9.6 B.jpg
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=651#p2513

GREEK TEXT: "...[τὸ ὄνο]μα αὐτοῦ μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος· ἄξω γὰρ εἰρή[νην]..." - (Ἠσαΐας 9:5 LXX-[ B ], Reproduced In Modern Printed Text.)

Some of the even older translations...


October 29, 2012
ISAIAH 9:5-6 LXX VARIANTS AND THE GREAT UNICIAL MANUSCRIPTS OF THE 4TH & 5TH CENTURIES : CODEX SINAITICUS : CODEX ALEXANDRINUS : CODEX VATICANUS ALONG WITH EARLY 1ST-2ND CENTURY SEPTUAGINT REVISIONS : AQUILA : SYMMACHUS : THEODTION

ISAIAH 9:6 IN SINAITICUS

9.6.jpg
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=651#p2513

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( ca ) = Corrector A, who added Gk., ( θαυμαστὸς σύμβολος θεὸς ἰσχυρός ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πατὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος ) in the bottom margin, trying to harmonize the Greek with the Hebrew.

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( cb ) = Corrector B, who added the cross signs ( + ).

[PICTURE NOTE]: The textual symbol ( d ) = Corrector D, who added red dots.

GREEK TEXT: "...θαυμαστὸς σύμβολος θς ἰσχυρός ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος..." - (Ἠσαΐας 9:5 LXX-[ B ], Reproduced In Modern Printed Text.)

CODEX SINAITICUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...Angel of [the] great purpose, for I will bring peace to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ א / S ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 26/10/12.)

CODEX SINAITICUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...Angel of [the] great purpose, [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong god,{*} having delegated power to exercise authority,{#} prince of peace, a father of that age that is to come]], for I am to bring peace..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ א / S ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Correctors marginalia, by Matt13weedhacker 26/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Or "a god [that is] strong" or "a god, a strong-mighty one."
[FOOTNOTE #]: Or "authoritative."

CODEX VATICANUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...the Messenger of Great Counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ B ], The Septuagint, as found in the Codex Vaticanus, translated by Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton c. 1851.)

CODEX VATICANUS (circa. 4th C.E.): "...the name of him [is called]: "Angel of [the] great purpose, for I shall bring to princes [peace]..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ B ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS

GREEK TEXT: "...ὅτι παιδίον ἐγεννήθη ἡμῖν, υἱὸς καὶ ἐδόθη ἡμῖν, οὗ ἡ ἀρχὴ ἐγενήθη ἐπὶ τοῦ ὤμου αὐτοῦ, καὶ καλεῖται τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος, [[θαυμαστὸς σύμβουλος, ἰσχυρός, ἐξουσιαστής, ἄρχων εἰρήνης, πατὴρ τοῦ μέλλοντος αἰῶνος]] ἐγὼ γὰρ ἄξω εἰρήνην ἐπὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας εἰρήνην καὶ ὑγίειαν αὐτῷ..." - (Page 25, ISAIAH, "THE BOOK OF ISAIAH ACCORDING TO THE SEPTUAGINT (CODEX ALEXANDRINUS)," Translated and Edited by R. R. Ottley, M.A. I. Introduction and Translation with a Parallel Version from the Hebrew, Second Edition, Cambridge : at the University Press 1909.)
http://www26.us.archive.org/stream/bookofisaiahacco00ottl#page/25/mode/1up

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child is born unto us, a son also is given unto us, upon whose shoulder was the government ; and he shall call his name: "Messenger of great counsel" [[Wonderful Counselor, Mighty, Powerful, Prince of Peace, Father of the Age to come]] for I will bring peace upon rulers, peace and health to him..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], Page 97, ISAIAH, "THE BOOK OF ISAIAH ACCORDING TO THE SEPTUAGINT (CODEX ALEXANDRINUS)," Translated and Edited by R. R. Ottley, M.A. I. Introduction and Translation with a Parallel Version from the Hebrew, Second Edition, Cambridge : at the University Press 1909.)
[FOOTNOTE 6]: Omit "also," B. "his name is called," Aleph,B,Q. "Wonderful," &c. : inserted by A, Alephca, V 91 97 106 &c. and Luc. MSS. In slightly varying forms (so Aq. Theod. Symm. Also): omit "peace," Aleph*, B (after "rulers").
http://www26.us.archive.org/stream/bookofisaiahacco00ottl#page/97/mode/1up

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...the Messenger of great counsel, Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty One, Potentate, Prince of Peace, Father of the age to come..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "English translation of the Septuagint" As found in the Codex Alexandrinus, translated by Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton, c. 1850.)

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...Because a child is born to us, a son also given to us, of whom the beginning [of dominion] has come to be upon his shoulder, and is being called the name of him: "Angel of [the] great purpose [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, prince of peace, father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," Literally translated by Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has come into being for us, a son also given to us, of whom the beginning [of dominion] shall be borne on his shoulders, and the name that he is called [is]: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has been generated for us, a son also given to us, on whose shoulders the beginning [of dominion] shall come to be, and his name is said to be: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

CODEX ALEXANDRINUS (circa. 5th C.E.): "...For a child has been generated for us, a son also given to us, on whose shoulders the commencement [of the kingdom] shall come to be, and his name is called: "Angel of [the] great purpose, [[a wonder of a counselor, a strong-mighty one, a person with delegated power of authority, a prince of peace, a father of an age, the one that is to come]],{*} for I am bringing peace to the rulers, to him may there be peace and health..." - (Isaiah 9:5 LXX-[ A ], "An English Translation of the Septuagint," By Matt13weedhacker 27/10/12.)
[FOOTNOTE *]: Correctors marginalia in double [[ ]] brackets.

And I will stop here not posting Eusebius' VARIANT LXX TEXTS OF ISAIAH 9:6 ACCORDING TO EUSEBIUS from https://matt13weedhacker.blogspot.com/2012/10/isaiah-95-6-lxx-variants-and-great.html

Satan hates the truth and tries to distort it with these Alexandrian codices..