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What is the purpose of marriage?

Started by The unloved one, Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31

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The unloved one

I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

kensington

Can I ask you something... Do you think you are being called to serve God as a single person? 


The unloved one

Quote from: kensington on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:27:13
Can I ask you something... Do you think you are being called to serve God as a single person? 



I am a pig going to slaughter. Single or not is nothing to me. I was curious on how christians viewed it.

chosenone

Quote from: The unloved one on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31
I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

Marriage is the most wonderful thing God ever started. To be in a marriage where God has bought you together with someone (and many of us dont marry the person who God wants us to marry by the way)is briliant.
Yes there are ups and downs, as there are ups and downs in life generally, but I would much rather be with my husband by my side than on my own through these times.
God made us to be with someone. Thats why he made eve to be with Adam because he said that is isnt good for man to be alone. He knew that we all have a need for close companinship with another person and that families are vital to the healthy unbringing of children.
A good marriage is priceless and very special. It is not wearysome or burdensome. It sounds as if the marriages that you have experienced were not good and that you have a distorted picture of marriage maybe.
Many members of my family and my husbands family are divorced but often this is because they arent Chistians and  dont understand the concept of comittment and faithfullness. My husband and I are divorced because our previous spouses didnt understand these concepts either, and they WERE both Christians, so being Christian in marriages doesnt mean that it wont fail because we are all allowed to make our own decisions and to do things that are so wrong and so terrible.

yes, many people are selfish these days, in fact we can ALL be selfish at times, but marriage is a good place to learn what it means to give to your spouse as well as enjoying the times that they give to us. Howewver just becuase people are selfish, doesnt make the fact that marriages fail, Gods fault . God is always there wanting and waiting to help us in our marriages to make the right decisions and to be there for our spouses in good and bad times.

So as for me, I am very pro marriage despite what I see around me. marriage is where I know I am loved and accepted by another human being who i love and accept also. there is nothing better(except knowing God of course.
   

The unloved one

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 03:40:25
Quote from: The unloved one on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31
I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

Marriage is the most wonderful thing God ever started. To be in a marriage where God has bought you together with someone (and many of us dont marry the person who God wants us to marry by the way)is briliant.
Yes there are ups and downs, as there are ups and downs in life generally, but I would much rather be with my husband by my side than on my own through these times.
God made us to be with someone. Thats why he made eve to be with Adam because he said that is isnt good for man to be alone. He knew that we all have a need for close companinship with another person and that families are vital to the healthy unbringing of children.
A good marriage is priceless and very special. It is not wearysome or burdensome. It sounds as if the marriages that you have experienced were not good and that you have a distorted picture of marriage maybe.
Many members of my family and my husbands family are divorced but often this is because they arent Chistians and  dont understand the concept of comittment and faithfullness. My husband and I are divorced because our previous spouses didnt understand these concepts either, and they WERE both Christians, so being Christian in marriages doesnt mean that it wont fail because we are all allowed to make our own decisions and to do things that are so wrong and so terrible.

yes, many people are selfish these days, in fact we can ALL be selfish at times, but marriage is a good place to learn what it means to give to your spouse as well as enjoying the times that they give to us. Howewver just becuase people are selfish, doesnt make the fact that marriages fail, Gods fault . God is always there wanting and waiting to help us in our marriages to make the right decisions and to be there for our spouses in good and bad times.

So as for me, I am very pro marriage despite what I see around me. marriage is where I know I am loved and accepted by another human being who i love and accept also. there is nothing better(except knowing God of course.
   

You make is sound so beatiful, maybe I am just a little to jaded to truly grasp the concept. I see marriage as a money pit and a slavery for the willing. Women, while I like them as friends and people seem like a bad choice of spouse personally for me. I myself am a male but oddly enough I don't think the almighty placed a woman in my path, I think he wouldn't want a another human to suffer my company or my path. Love and acceptance is conditional and temporary. I wonderwhat truly makes a "Good marriage"?

chosenone

Quote from: The unloved one on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 04:16:15
Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 03:40:25
Quote from: The unloved one on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31
I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

Marriage is the most wonderful thing God ever started. To be in a marriage where God has bought you together with someone (and many of us dont marry the person who God wants us to marry by the way)is briliant.
Yes there are ups and downs, as there are ups and downs in life generally, but I would much rather be with my husband by my side than on my own through these times.
God made us to be with someone. Thats why he made eve to be with Adam because he said that is isnt good for man to be alone. He knew that we all have a need for close companinship with another person and that families are vital to the healthy unbringing of children.
A good marriage is priceless and very special. It is not wearysome or burdensome. It sounds as if the marriages that you have experienced were not good and that you have a distorted picture of marriage maybe.
Many members of my family and my husbands family are divorced but often this is because they arent Chistians and  dont understand the concept of comittment and faithfullness. My husband and I are divorced because our previous spouses didnt understand these concepts either, and they WERE both Christians, so being Christian in marriages doesnt mean that it wont fail because we are all allowed to make our own decisions and to do things that are so wrong and so terrible.

yes, many people are selfish these days, in fact we can ALL be selfish at times, but marriage is a good place to learn what it means to give to your spouse as well as enjoying the times that they give to us. Howewver just becuase people are selfish, doesnt make the fact that marriages fail, Gods fault . God is always there wanting and waiting to help us in our marriages to make the right decisions and to be there for our spouses in good and bad times.

So as for me, I am very pro marriage despite what I see around me. marriage is where I know I am loved and accepted by another human being who i love and accept also. there is nothing better(except knowing God of course.
   

You make is sound so beatiful, maybe I am just a little to jaded to truly grasp the concept. I see marriage as a money pit and a slavery for the willing. Women, while I like them as friends and people seem like a bad choice of spouse personally for me. I myself am a male but oddly enough I don't think the almighty placed a woman in my path, I think he wouldn't want a another human to suffer my company or my path. Love and acceptance is conditional and temporary. I wonderwhat truly makes a "Good marriage"?

Love and acceptance shouldnt be conditional or temporary, but it often is as you say.
Also I dont think you are mixing in the right circles, there are some lovely women out there, maybe go to a good lively church instead of the places that you go to?
i could easily be jaded as you are by my experiences of things in  my first marriage and my husbands furst marriage and our families, but I still believe in Gods good ness, His ablility to restore, and that mariage, if God brings you together, is wonderful.

Sherman Nobles

The primary purpose of marriage is companionship, meeting the psychological and emotional need we have to Love and Be Loved.  The secondary purpose of marriage is to fulfill our need and desire to procreate.  A third reason for marriage is to fulfill one's need for physical intimacy in a healthy affirming manner.

MrQuietGuy

I was married to my first wife for 32 years until we were separated by her death in 1995. Our marriage was rocky -- very rocky -- because we had very different personalities. However, our love was strong -- very strong -- and what my wife referred to as super glue held us together through all the many obstacles.

I'm an independent person, a loner, but I always found comfort in being near her as she did with me. We always had each other to lean on in times of strife and our many years together were rewarding.

After her death, I eventually found another and married again. This time, I married a woman whose personality is very much like mine. Again, our marriage is a very rewarding one, but in a different way, being much calmer.

I've been extremely fortunate to have found not one but two women, each of whom has given me happiness in her own way. Thank you God.

I firmly believe that a happy marriage is created not by what you get from your partner, but by what you give to your partner and to the marriage. If you are unable to find happiness in giving, then you will probably not find happiness at all. On the other hand, if you can find happiness in giving, then not only your marriage, but your life will be good.

Tom M.

chosenone

Quote from: MrQuietGuy on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 08:52:30
I was married to my first wife for 32 years until we were separated by her death in 1995. Our marriage was rocky -- very rocky -- because we had very different personalities. However, our love was strong -- very strong -- and what my wife referred to as super glue held us together through all the many obstacles.

I'm an independent person, a loner, but I always found comfort in being near her as she did with me. We always had each other to lean on in times of strife and our many years together were rewarding.

After her death, I eventually found another and married again. This time, I married a woman whose personality is very much like mine. Again, our marriage is a very rewarding one, but in a different way, being much calmer.

I've been extremely fortunate to have found not one but two women, each of whom has given me happiness in her own way. Thank you God.

I firmly believe that a happy marriage is created not by what you get from your partner, but by what you give to your partner and to the marriage. If you are unable to find happiness in giving, then you will probably not find happiness at all. On the other hand, if you can find happiness in giving, then not only your marriage, but your life will be good.

Tom M.

I agree totally about the gving bit that you said. A marriage where both are giving people is far more likely to work, but if one or both are takers and not givers it isnt likely to be good or successful. Either one will do all the giving and one all the taking (as in my husbands previous marriage), or both will be waiting to be given to and will never give themselves.
The taker will never be satisfied whatever the giver does. 

His Princess

Quote from: The unloved one on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31
I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

You have only pointed out the negative aspects of marriage here.  The flip side is that it can be a very beautiful, mutually satisfing, and fulfilling thing.  It's true that way too many people marry unwisely and then have no concept of how to deal with conflict that comes between them.  It all boils down to sin, we're selfish people by nature.




The unloved one

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 04:29:04
Quote from: The unloved one on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 04:16:15
Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 03:40:25
Quote from: The unloved one on Mon Nov 24, 2008 - 23:13:31
I've always wondered why God created such a system for people. We are fallable as is but to place us in a state of union that would eventual be more wear and burdensome than our already diffcult and wretched lives seems a bit cruel.Ã,  These high cost reap very little rewards since love comes at a price and most people are more selfish and needy than truly loving. I think local law has even turn the already sad state into a joke with devorice and silly expectation such as alimony and other kinds of support.Ã,  I wonder why people even marry now since it is more costly, physically, emotionally and financial. Union between a man and a woman seem to only work in difficult times where support is needed and breeding is helpful to everyone.

Can I get some direction on what the purpose of marriage is?

Marriage is the most wonderful thing God ever started. To be in a marriage where God has bought you together with someone (and many of us dont marry the person who God wants us to marry by the way)is briliant.
Yes there are ups and downs, as there are ups and downs in life generally, but I would much rather be with my husband by my side than on my own through these times.
God made us to be with someone. Thats why he made eve to be with Adam because he said that is isnt good for man to be alone. He knew that we all have a need for close companinship with another person and that families are vital to the healthy unbringing of children.
A good marriage is priceless and very special. It is not wearysome or burdensome. It sounds as if the marriages that you have experienced were not good and that you have a distorted picture of marriage maybe.
Many members of my family and my husbands family are divorced but often this is because they arent Chistians andÃ,  dont understand the concept of comittment and faithfullness. My husband and I are divorced because our previous spouses didnt understand these concepts either, and they WERE both Christians, so being Christian in marriages doesnt mean that it wont fail because we are all allowed to make our own decisions and to do things that are so wrong and so terrible.

yes, many people are selfish these days, in fact we can ALL be selfish at times, but marriage is a good place to learn what it means to give to your spouse as well as enjoying the times that they give to us. Howewver just becuase people are selfish, doesnt make the fact that marriages fail, Gods fault . God is always there wanting and waiting to help us in our marriages to make the right decisions and to be there for our spouses in good and bad times.

So as for me, I am very pro marriage despite what I see around me. marriage is where I know I am loved and accepted by another human being who i love and accept also. there is nothing better(except knowing God of course.
Ã,  Ã, 

You make is sound so beatiful, maybe I am just a little to jaded to truly grasp the concept. I see marriage as a money pit and a slavery for the willing. Women, while I like them as friends and people seem like a bad choice of spouse personally for me. I myself am a male but oddly enough I don't think the almighty placed a woman in my path, I think he wouldn't want a another human to suffer my company or my path. Love and acceptance is conditional and temporary. I wonderwhat truly makes a "Good marriage"?

Love and acceptance shouldnt be conditional or temporary, but it often is as you say.
Also I dont think you are mixing in the right circles, there are some lovely women out there, maybe go to a good lively church instead of the places that you go to?
i could easily be jaded as you are by my experiences of things in  my first marriage and my husbands furst marriage and our families, but I still believe in Gods good ness, His ablility to restore, and that mariage, if God brings you together, is wonderful.

Most of the local chruches won't accept me because of my orientation, I am banned from the closes four chruchs in my city. Lovely women would have nothing to do with me. I lack the funds or the charm that is required to be loved. If God love his flock as much as the bible teaches us then he would never let them suffer from meeting me. All my good point are negated from my complete lack of love and basic humanity. I still wonder why was I created like this but I am getting off track, why is compainionship so highly sought after in christiandom? How fulfilling is marriage in the end?

chosenone

we were made for companionship both with God and with others. marriage is a very special relationship.

Why are you banned from 4 churches? I am really not sure that you are gay from what you said, I think that you are just looking for love in all the WRONG places. You said that you turned to men after women let you down, so that doesnt mean that you are gay.You are very young to have decided that you are gay anyway. God can change you but the decision is yours. You have to trun away from the lifestyle you are leading and even if youi cant go to church, you can talk to God right in you own room, and He will send the help you need if you really want to change. There are websites that you could look up with support for Christians who were gay etc. lok up on google and you may find one that may be of help and support.

The unloved one

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 11:44:15
we were made for companionship both with God and with others. marriage is a very special relationship.

Why are you banned from 4 churches? I am really not sure that you are gay from what you said, I think that you are just looking for love in all the WRONG places. You said that you turned to men after women let you down, so that doesnt mean that you are gay.You are very young to have decided that you are gay anyway. God can change you but the decision is yours. You have to trun away from the lifestyle you are leading and even if youi cant go to church, you can talk to God right in you own room, and He will send the help you need if you really want to change. There are websites that you could look up with support for Christians who were gay etc. lok up on google and you may find one that may be of help and support.
I apologize I think I gave you the wrong ideal, I am not gay I am bi-sexual leaning toward men, but gayness isn't the reason I was banned from the fourth chruch my companion got me banned when he spoke of my lifestyle and of his immediately afterward. The fourth on was a homosexual friendly chruch. Men are physically unstimulating to me but have better personalities and level demeanors. I don't think the problem is me looking for love in the wrong places. I think it is more of me expecting love with all the baggage and lack of funds or chram or anything a decent female would want.

chosenone

Quote from: The unloved one on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 18:12:53
Quote from: chosenone on Tue Nov 25, 2008 - 11:44:15
we were made for companionship both with God and with others. marriage is a very special relationship.

Why are you banned from 4 churches? I am really not sure that you are gay from what you said, I think that you are just looking for love in all the WRONG places. You said that you turned to men after women let you down, so that doesnt mean that you are gay.You are very young to have decided that you are gay anyway. God can change you but the decision is yours. You have to trun away from the lifestyle you are leading and even if youi cant go to church, you can talk to God right in you own room, and He will send the help you need if you really want to change. There are websites that you could look up with support for Christians who were gay etc. lok up on google and you may find one that may be of help and support.
I apologize I think I gave you the wrong ideal, I am not gay I am bi-sexual leaning toward men, but gayness isn't the reason I was banned from the fourth chruch my companion got me banned when he spoke of my lifestyle and of his immediately afterward. The fourth on was a homosexual friendly chruch. Men are physically unstimulating to me but have better personalities and level demeanors. I don't think the problem is me looking for love in the wrong places. I think it is more of me expecting love with all the baggage and lack of funds or chram or anything a decent female would want.

So were you banned from the first three churches because you are bi sexual? How did they know anyway? What do you mean by 'banned' do you mean that they told you that you couldnt come any more? that seems quite extreem to me.
Why did your friend (and I assume that this was the one who has sex with his dog) say anything about his lifestyle? He didnt actually need to tell everyone did he? He certainly shouldnt have told others about your llifestyle, that is for you to tell or not to tell.

If you came to our church you wouldnt be banned for being bisexual. if you became a Christian, you would be strongly advised and encouraged to stop this lifestyle becuase any sex outside marriage is wrong for a christian, but you would be helped and encouraged in this. However if you were new and not a christian yet, you would be cared for and encouraged and we would let God do the work in you that is needed.
if you let God in to your life, He would heal and restore and then you may well loose your taste for what you do anyway.have you ever given your life to Him?Cos if you havent it is well worth doing believe me.

Memphis Dwight

Procreation is actually a higher priority in the establishment of marriage than companionship.  God did not want Adam to be the only person on the planet.  So He gave Adam the first woman and they were told to reproduce. 
Companionship will naturally follow especially when they have plenty of children and those children have children.  And if the man has several wives in his family then there will always be plenty of love and affection to go around.  Praise Jesus for creating us male and female!

Sherman Nobles

Quote from: Memphis Dwight on Sat Nov 29, 2008 - 18:55:28
Procreation is actually a higher priority in the establishment of marriage than companionship.  God did not want Adam to be the only person on the planet.  So He gave Adam the first woman and they were told to reproduce. 
Companionship will naturally follow especially when they have plenty of children and those children have children.  And if the man has several wives in his family then there will always be plenty of love and affection to go around.  Praise Jesus for creating us male and female!

It was this line of reasoning that inspired social pressure in the first century for a couple to divorce if they'd been together over 10 years with no children.  They figured that if God had not blessed a couple with children within those 10 years, it must not be a marriage blessed by God and thus for them to fulfill the command to procreate the couple should divorce and marry others. 

Also, when couples grow older and become empty-nesters, if they've failed to make "companionship" a priority even when they had children, when they are alone again, they run the risk of having grown so apart that they no longer meet eachother's needs and could possibly end in divorce. 

Understanding that companionship is the primary reason for marriage helps marriages last whether they have children or not. 

Also, the answer to Adam's aloneness was the creation of the woman, making a helper suitable for, equal to him.  The command to procreate followed her creation, at least that's the case in Gen. 2.

chosenone

Quote from: Sherman Nobles on Mon Dec 01, 2008 - 16:20:00
Quote from: Memphis Dwight on Sat Nov 29, 2008 - 18:55:28
Procreation is actually a higher priority in the establishment of marriage than companionship.  God did not want Adam to be the only person on the planet.  So He gave Adam the first woman and they were told to reproduce. 
Companionship will naturally follow especially when they have plenty of children and those children have children.  And if the man has several wives in his family then there will always be plenty of love and affection to go around.  Praise Jesus for creating us male and female!

It was this line of reasoning that inspired social pressure in the first century for a couple to divorce if they'd been together over 10 years with no children.  They figured that if God had not blessed a couple with children within those 10 years, it must not be a marriage blessed by God and thus for them to fulfill the command to procreate the couple should divorce and marry others. 

Also, when couples grow older and become empty-nesters, if they've failed to make "companionship" a priority even when they had children, when they are alone again, they run the risk of having grown so apart that they no longer meet eachother's needs and could possibly end in divorce. 

Understanding that companionship is the primary reason for marriage helps marriages last whether they have children or not. 

Also, the answer to Adam's aloneness was the creation of the woman, making a helper suitable for, equal to him.  The command to procreate followed her creation, at least that's the case in Gen. 2.

Also, there are those who marry later in life such as my husband and I, who definately wont/cant have children! Companionship is then obviously primary. We married at the ages of 48 and 49, we have 5 adult children between us, and I have had a hysterectomy, so having children isnt an option.   

LOVE2DAY

Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. 3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge ::pondering::
Heb 13:1-4 (KJV)

chosenone

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sat Dec 20, 2008 - 17:01:00
Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. 3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge ::pondering::
Heb 13:1-4 (KJV)


Yes marriage is honourable.. Exactly.

LOVE2DAY

 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge

-Paul discusses marriage
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Marriage vows are to be taken seriously
10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?


17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

Reasons for marrying or remaining single
25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.


36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.


39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

1 Cor 7:1-40 (KJV)

chosenone

As I said love2ay, the marriage is honourable and the bed is indefiled unless one of the spouses is unfaithful to the other.

LOVE2DAY

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge

WHAT IS A WHOREMONGERS AND WHAT IS AN ADULTERES?

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matt 5:32 (KJV)

NOW IF FORNICATION IS FOR THE UNMARRIED, THEN WHY DO YOU PUT YOUR the WIFE AWAY SAVING FOR THE CAUSE OF FORNICATION?  THEY ARE BOTH MARRIED, BUT JESUS  SAID That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery:

11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Mark 10:11-12 (KJV)
AND HERE AGAIN JESUS IS SAYING THE SAME.

18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18 (KJV)

And then you have the 10 commandments, can you inherit everlasting life if you break God's commandments?
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery
Mark 10:19 (KJV)


And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
1 John 2:3-6 (KJV)



chosenone

I love marriage and I love bing married. it is godly and good and blessed and ordained by God. One of his best inventions in my opinion!

His Princess

Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 11:37:31
I love marriage and I love bing married. it is godly and good and blessed and ordained by God. One of his best inventions in my opinion!

Here, here!!

LOVE2DAY

It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)


chosenone

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:06:04
It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)



if we are married to someone elses husband of wife,we cant marry anyway becuase it is illegal to commit bigamy. when we arent married to anyone else we can marry.Simple as that.
You really do have a problem with those of us who are happily married dont you?. maybe you are unhappy yourself in a mariage so are resentful towards those who are in a good one, it wouldnt be the first time this has happened.

LOVE2DAY

Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:15:28
Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:06:04
It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)



if we are married to someone elses husband of wife,we cant marry anyway because it is illegal to commit bigamy. when we aren't married to anyone else we can marry.Simple as that.
You really do have a problem with those of us who are happily married dint you?. maybe you are unhappy yourself in a marriage so are resentful towards those who are in a good one, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

IAM ONLY AGAINST SIN, LIKE CHRIST IS AGAINST SIN.  SURE YOU DO, AND AGAIN YOU ARE SPEAKING MANS LAW. MANS LAW WILL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER VOIDING YOUR CURRENT MARRIAGE SO YOU HAVE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO MARRY. BUT YOUR STILL MARRIED TO THAT PERSON WITH OUT THE PAPER OR WITH THE PAPER, AND NOW YOUR MARRIED TO ANOTHER PERSON ALSO, AND YOU STILL COMMIT ADULTERY.
WHAT THE DIFFERENTS FROM THE OLD TESTIMENT THEY HAD MANY WIFE'S, SO WHAT IF YOURS IS LIVING IN A DIFFERNT HOUSE FROM YOU, YOUR STILL MARRIED. ONLY DEATH DO YOU PART, AND THAT IS YOUR WEDDING VOWLS.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:37-39 (KJV)

His Princess

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:48:42
Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:15:28
Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:06:04
It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)



if we are married to someone elses husband of wife,we cant marry anyway because it is illegal to commit bigamy. when we aren't married to anyone else we can marry.Simple as that.
You really do have a problem with those of us who are happily married dint you?. maybe you are unhappy yourself in a marriage so are resentful towards those who are in a good one, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

IAM ONLY AGAINST SIN, LIKE CHRIST IS AGAINST SIN.  SURE YOU DO, AND AGAIN YOU ARE SPEAKING MANS LAW. MANS LAW WILL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER VOIDING YOUR CURRENT MARRIAGE SO YOU HAVE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO MARRY. BUT YOUR STILL MARRIED TO THAT PERSON WITH OUT THE PAPER OR WITH THE PAPER, AND NOW YOUR MARRIED TO ANOTHER PERSON ALSO, AND YOU STILL COMMIT ADULTERY.
WHAT THE DIFFERENTS FROM THE OLD TESTIMENT THEY HAD MANY WIFE'S, SO WHAT IF YOURS IS LIVING IN A DIFFERNT HOUSE FROM YOU, YOUR STILL MARRIED. ONLY DEATH DO YOU PART, AND THAT IS YOUR WEDDING VOWLS.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:37-39 (KJV)


Wedding vowels?  I've never heard of that.

Look here, chosenone and her husband are two of the most godly, sweet people I've ever known.  You have no idea whatsoever what circumstances brought them to the place where they are now.  Sure, there are laws, but there's also GRACE and forgiveness.  The Lord is much more interested in what is in our hearts, what our motivations are than the LAW.  You are behaving as the Pharisees and Saducees, whom Jesus Himself spat out, hypocritical and judgmental. 


chosenone

Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:48:42
Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:15:28
Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:06:04
It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)



if we are married to someone elses husband of wife,we cant marry anyway because it is illegal to commit bigamy. when we aren't married to anyone else we can marry.Simple as that.
You really do have a problem with those of us who are happily married dint you?. maybe you are unhappy yourself in a marriage so are resentful towards those who are in a good one, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

IAM ONLY AGAINST SIN, LIKE CHRIST IS AGAINST SIN.  SURE YOU DO, AND AGAIN YOU ARE SPEAKING MANS LAW. MANS LAW WILL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER VOIDING YOUR CURRENT MARRIAGE SO YOU HAVE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO MARRY. BUT YOUR STILL MARRIED TO THAT PERSON WITH OUT THE PAPER OR WITH THE PAPER, AND NOW YOUR MARRIED TO ANOTHER PERSON ALSO, AND YOU STILL COMMIT ADULTERY.
WHAT THE DIFFERENTS FROM THE OLD TESTIMENT THEY HAD MANY WIFE'S, SO WHAT IF YOURS IS LIVING IN A DIFFERNT HOUSE FROM YOU, YOUR STILL MARRIED. ONLY DEATH DO YOU PART, AND THAT IS YOUR WEDDING VOWLS.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:37-39 (KJV)


I was not given a peice of paper so I could marry the man that I wanted to marry. I  divorced according to Biblical teaching many years before I met my wonderful husband who I am SO blessed  to be married to now.God is so good. He has blessed us so wonderfully. I thank God every day for such a wonderful husband.

chosenone

Quote from: His Princess on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:52:24
Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:48:42
Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:15:28
Quote from: LOVE2DAY on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 13:06:04
It not what you love, but God. If you were a virgin at marriage you do not sin. If you husband or wife are dead then you do not sin if you remarry.  And if your married to someone else's husband or wife you do sin and God has not ordained the marriage you have because you ran after the flesh and not the things of GOD.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 2
Heb 10:26-28 (KJV)



if we are married to someone elses husband of wife,we cant marry anyway because it is illegal to commit bigamy. when we aren't married to anyone else we can marry.Simple as that.
You really do have a problem with those of us who are happily married dint you?. maybe you are unhappy yourself in a marriage so are resentful towards those who are in a good one, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

IAM ONLY AGAINST SIN, LIKE CHRIST IS AGAINST SIN.  SURE YOU DO, AND AGAIN YOU ARE SPEAKING MANS LAW. MANS LAW WILL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER VOIDING YOUR CURRENT MARRIAGE SO YOU HAVE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO MARRY. BUT YOUR STILL MARRIED TO THAT PERSON WITH OUT THE PAPER OR WITH THE PAPER, AND NOW YOUR MARRIED TO ANOTHER PERSON ALSO, AND YOU STILL COMMIT ADULTERY.
WHAT THE DIFFERENTS FROM THE OLD TESTIMENT THEY HAD MANY WIFE'S, SO WHAT IF YOURS IS LIVING IN A DIFFERNT HOUSE FROM YOU, YOUR STILL MARRIED. ONLY DEATH DO YOU PART, AND THAT IS YOUR WEDDING VOWLS.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:37-39 (KJV)


Wedding vowels?  I've never heard of that.

Look here, chosenone and her husband are two of the most godly, sweet people I've ever known.  You have no idea whatsoever what circumstances brought them to the place where they are now.  Sure, there are laws, but there's also GRACE and forgiveness.  The Lord is much more interested in what is in our hearts, what our motivations are than the LAW.  You are behaving as the Pharisees and Saducees, whom Jesus Himself spat out, hypocritical and judgmental. 



Thank you his princess, you are a true sister in jesus.

As his princess said you have absolutely no idea what my past circumstances are, so you cannot judge and anyway, it is not YOUR job to judge and condemn others. You really do come accross as a very unhappy bitter person but of course you will never admit to that, you will jusy go on ranting and raving at all of us becuse we are all so sinful and of course you are not.

elijah_101

Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 11:37:31
I love marriage and I love bing married. it is godly and good and blessed and ordained by God. One of his best inventions in my opinion!

And by This

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18

But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. 13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
Isaiah 47:10 1 Tim 5:11- Rev 18:7

Romans 1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Mark 4:12 -


chosenone

Quote from: elijah_101 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 - 15:07:50
Quote from: chosenone on Sun Dec 21, 2008 - 11:37:31
I love marriage and I love bing married. it is godly and good and blessed and ordained by God. One of his best inventions in my opinion!

And by This

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18

But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. 13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
Isaiah 47:10 1 Tim 5:11- Rev 18:7

Romans 1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Mark 4:12 -



I still love marriage and love being married whatever you say elijah. The VERY BEST thing that God ever did in my life was bringing me togeher with my wonderful godly huband.Praise Him.

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