Do we as a nation fear dying of horrible disease?

[armywifenmom]

With the daily cancer commercials, heart-attack, stroke, high blood pressure talk, do you think this is creating  paranoid society? I know it is all about educating, but sometimes i wonder if less is more?

[Charles Sloan]

I think people fear dying in general, but especially the unsaved portion.

[farouk]

Ms Armywifenmom:

I'm sure there is truth to what you say.

There are many political and corporate vested interests.

With the daily cancer commercials, heart-attack, stroke, high blood pressure talk, do you think this is creating  paranoid society? I know it is all about educating, but sometimes i wonder if less is more?

[graceforme]

Personally, I think that if we don't start taking notice of what we eat, continuing to consume pesticides, hormones, chemical fertilizers, etc. we will see more and more horrible deaths as time goes on.  We are killing ourselves with our food, polluted air, and other habits, such as smoking, drinking, etc.

Pick up a package of processed food or frozen dinner at the supermarket and read the ingredients.  It's really scary.  Even though we have been warned, we continue to eat these "convenience" foods, and foods treated with hormones, preservatives, and many other chemicals.  Study the increase in different types of cancer, the increase in deaths due to heart attack and stroke.  It's amazing and so scary.

The health officials tell us to eat fish to help our brain function.  But, if we are eating  fish, such as salmon (which they say is so good for us) that is farm-raised, we are consuming the same same chicken dirt, and fast-growth chemicals that are used to raise them.  And the same is true with beef, pork, etc.

Even worse is eating fruits and veggies that have absorbed the chemicals that are used to raise them.  Certified organic is the only answer, but often so expensive that the average shopper can't afford to buy organic products.

Less is more?  I don't think so.  I think the truth is just now coming out, and many are suffering and dying needlessly for lack of information.  They continue to shop the "convenience" way, thus exposing themselves to more and more risk.  And for many, it is too late to change what is already "brewing" in their systems due to years of unhealthy living.

God bless.

[graceforme]

With the daily cancer commercials, heart-attack, stroke, high blood pressure talk, do you think this is creating  paranoid society? I know it is all about educating, but sometimes i wonder if less is more?

What is even scarier to me than the disease is all the ads telling the side-effects of the medications that are being given for them.  The possible side effects seem to be worse than the disease is.  And then there are the ads from the attorneys, suing pharmacutical companies for deaths related to certain medications.  I'd almost rather take my chances with the disease.

God Bless.

[armywifenmom]

Personally, I think that if we don't start taking notice of what we eat, continuing to consume pesticides, hormones, chemical fertilizers, etc. we will see more and more horrible deaths as time goes on.  We are killing ourselves with our food, polluted air, and other habits, such as smoking, drinking, etc.

Pick up a package of processed food or frozen dinner at the supermarket and read the ingredients.  It's really scary.  Even though we have been warned, we continue to eat these "convenience" foods, and foods treated with hormones, preservatives, and many other chemicals.  Study the increase in different types of cancer, the increase in deaths due to heart attack and stroke.  It's amazing and so scary.

The health officials tell us to eat fish to help our brain function.  But, if we are eating  fish, such as salmon (which they say is so good for us) that is farm-raised, we are consuming the same same chicken dirt, and fast-growth chemicals that are used to raise them.  And the same is true with beef, pork, etc.

Even worse is eating fruits and veggies that have absorbed the chemicals that are used to raise them.  Certified organic is the only answer, but often so expensive that the average shopper can't afford to buy organic products.

Less is more?  I don't think so.  I think the truth is just now coming out, and many are suffering and dying needlessly for lack of information.  They continue to shop the "convenience" way, thus exposing themselves to more and more risk.  And for many, it is too late to change what is already "brewing" in their systems due to years of unhealthy living.

God bless.

i AGREE WITH THAT TOO. i'M very health conscience, but even ''healthy'' ppl are getting these things. Just this morn they had on the news a 36 yro soldier dying during a pt run of a heart-attack. He was in good shape ran daily and ate right(according to those who kne w him.

[Charles Sloan]

What is even scarier to me than the disease is all the ads telling the side-effects of the medications that are being given for them.  The possible side effects seem to be worse than the disease is.  And then there are the ads from the attorneys, suing pharmacutical companies for deaths related to certain medications.  I'd almost rather take my chances with the disease.

God Bless.

No kidding!

I listen to these ads when they go through a massive list of side affects which can include blood clots, stroke, or unexplained sudden death. I never though allergy medicines was that dangerous... Since I was talking about depression in another thread this ad kinda stands out to me too. Its an anti-depressant, but one of the side effects can be suicidal thoughts. I forget the name, but like you said, the meds seem worse than what they are treating.

[graceforme]

What is even scarier to me than the disease is all the ads telling the side-effects of the medications that are being given for them.  The possible side effects seem to be worse than the disease is.  And then there are the ads from the attorneys, suing pharmacutical companies for deaths related to certain medications.  I'd almost rather take my chances with the disease.

God Bless.

No kidding!

I listen to these ads when they go through a massive list of side affects which can include blood clots, stroke, or unexplained sudden death. I never though allergy medicines was that dangerous... Since I was talking about depression in another thread this ad kinda stands out to me too. Its an anti-depressant, but one of the side effects can be suicidal thoughts. I forget the name, but like you said, the meds seem worse than what they are treating.

Believe it or not, medications to treat depression are often the ones that can cause suicidal thoughts.  Hmmmm ......

I think we need to return to using herbal and natural remedies, as well as taking steps to STAY healthy, rather than waiting for disease, then depending on chemicals to "cure" us.  These chemicals don't cure us - they simply stave off the affects of the disease.

And, are we becoming a nation of people who are less able to withstand to tolerate common conditions in our lives?  I seem to remember hearing my Grandmother say that people were becoming wiser, but weaker.  Or something like that.

When I was a kid in school, I can remember three kids who died.  They were all friends of mine or my brothers.  Two of them in car accidents, and one was killed by his father, who then committed suicide.  He was a good friend of my brother (they were only 12 ).  There bodies were found on Thanksgiving day.  We dealt with these things then.  Nowadays, if a kid is killed, they call in "grief" counselors for the entire school.  We dealt with reality, but are the kids today not able to deal with it?  And if not, why not?

Maybe if we had been counseled at that time, would we be better able to cope today?

It just makes me wonder sometimes about these things.

God bless.

[BAH-BLAH]

Oh my here it goes.

If life spans were decreasing, and folks were contracting these horrible diseases at younger ages IN LARGE NUMBERS enough to skew the average, this whole thing would be a point.

Otherwise, well, its not.

Take the country to all "organic farming", and we starve within 2-3 generations. Eliminate much medication (forget depressants, Im talking about illness that kills) and we start dying of colds, flu, infections.....

This whole movement doesnt realize that it is counterintuitive to push on a large scale.

That some wish to eat organic food, fine, its expensive, its boutique, and if you like it, go for it. But, there is simply no compelling OVERARCHING reason for it, quite the contrary, starvation globally would be so horrible you cannot imagine.

I know about the "natural" fertilizers, the "natural" pesticides....great, and as they improve to where they work as good as the others, USE EM......but not just yet folks if you like having plenty to eat.

[phoebe]

People have been dying from horrible diseases since the Fall.

Paranoia thrives where it's fed on a daily basis.

[BAH-BLAH]

Agreed.

It boggles my mind, this.

As we have marched through the past 100 years, meds developed, and food growing techniques have cured diseases and afforded far more food to the world, AND not only life expectancy, but quality of life at certain ages has improved dramatically.

Im not sure what the goal even is, therefore, in getting worked up about this stuff.

Pollution, ok, I get that...but the whole organic farming and ridding the world of medicine just doesnt fit common sense to me. As a lifestyle choice, fine, but lets not pretend its a good thing to get after in a big way.

I find my Christian friends to be the most intractible on this issue that seems so very obvious.

[graceforme]

I don't think there is a movement to eliminate medications.  I just think that Drs. throw meds at people for everything, when herbs and natural methods could probably do just as well in some cases.  And I don't think good common sense should be mistaken as paranoia.  As you look at the instances of all kinds of cancer, it should be obvious that something has caused this epidemic.  I'm not sure just which food-growing techniques have cured any diseases.  And, contrary to popular belief, there is still much starvation in the world.

I'm not obsessed with all this - I just believe that we should educate ourselves and be aware of what's out there.   We shouldn't ignore the facts, and close our eyes to the truth.   

God Bless. 

[armywifenmom]

I don't think there is a movement to eliminate medications.  I just think that Drs. throw meds at people for everything, when herbs and natural methods could probably do just as well in some cases.  And I don't think good common sense should be mistaken as paranoia.  As you look at the instances of all kinds of cancer, it should be obvious that something has caused this epidemic.  I'm not sure just which food-growing techniques have cured any diseases.  And, contrary to popular belief, there is still much starvation in the world.

I'm not obsessed with all this - I just believe that we should educate ourselves and be aware of what's out there.   We shouldn't ignore the facts, and close our eyes to the truth.   

God Bless. 

I would love for us to get to a place where we can talk more about PREVENTION than the actual disease.
How many ppl know that being in the sun 15 minutes a day reduces the rate of breast cancer and colorectal cancer. Not only do scientists say it can reduce these two types of cancers it says it can prevent it. If you can't get in the sun Vitamin D is recommended. There are also  natural ways to lower high BP, and high Cholesterol, that don't carry some of the side effects or potential problems that may arise. Things like Omega 3, garlic capsules, and oatmeal are all good for lowering the two. Green tea is another high powered antioxidant that can prevent SEVERAL cancers, if not all. I could go on and on. I had a spell with my thyroid last yr, it was over-active. Instead of taking meds, I eliminated certain foods, and added others, along with theraputic oils. My numbers were back within normal range within 5 weeks. It's pretty shocking that most ppl don't research the medicines they are being prescribed, or see if there are safer alternatives. I know of women who took radioactice iodine to have their thyroid killed, and it wasn't even necessary, now they have a lifelong of unecesary symptoms they live w/daily. I don't knock western medicine b/c it has come a loong way and has saved lives, but that doesn't mean we throw out other options b/c Pharmaceuticals won't make money.

[BAH-BLAH]

Who is throwing out anything?

You want natural....go natural....great.

Why though the crudsade like tenor to these threads about this stuff? Why is it a problem that I take synthroid for my UNDER active thyroid instead of diet and oils or whatever?

Our country has a LOONNGG way to go before you get to the kind of prevention you are talking about. We cant get within 1.75 times normal body weight for petes sake, let alone drink black tea or green tea or use oils or herbs and spices.

[armywifenmom]

Who is throwing out anything?

You want natural....go natural....great.

Why though the crudsade like tenor to these threads about this stuff? Why is it a problem that I take synthroid for my UNDER active thyroid instead of diet and oils or whatever?

Our country has a LOONNGG way to go before you get to the kind of prevention you are talking about. We cant get within 1.75 times normal body weight for petes sake, let alone drink black tea or green tea or use oils or herbs and spices.

Blah, it was more of a personal rant don't take it personal as my comments were general in nature.

I've had friends where the docs really didn't take time to listen to them, over-prescribe, or prescribe the wrong things. Then I've encountered docs who won't take you seriously for whatever reason. These are ppl in their 20's-30's, ages where health problems shouldn't be occuring, but they do, que sera sera .I had a doc that told me i had rheuatoid arthritis at the age of 20, I'm 37 now with no signs of Rhumatoid arthritis!! He told me I'd most likely end up in a wheelchair. Praise God he was wrong! I sought out my OWN research, what the lab numbers meant, what methods could ease it etc(this is when i thought i had it). This is before I even knew anything about the internet, i went to the library, and borrowed literature from others who had it.

I don't knock synthroid, i know it's a must have for many, and it could actually be deadly if it went untreated.If and only if the things I implemented and eliminated didn't work, I'd consider meds if it was detrimental to my health.  There's a well hated endo in the area who's soltion to everyones thyroid problem is to destroy it. Sadly most ppl not knowing any better let her. Most ppl have thyroid nodules that are not cancerous, and are left alone, she goes straight for radiation. My friends thyroid was killed off for no good reason! Unfortunately she is the only endo close to the post so many don't know they have a choice to go an hr or more elsewhere.

We are our own and best advocate, and that applies outside the docs office as well.  Most ppl make dietary changes when their life depends on it..unfortunately that's the only time most ppl make those changes.

[graceforme]

Who is throwing out anything?

You want natural....go natural....great.

Why though the crudsade like tenor to these threads about this stuff? Why is it a problem that I take synthroid for my UNDER active thyroid instead of diet and oils or whatever?

Our country has a LOONNGG way to go before you get to the kind of prevention you are talking about. We cant get within 1.75 times normal body weight for petes sake, let alone drink black tea or green tea or use oils or herbs and spices.

It certainly is not a problem, no matter what you take.  It's your business and no one elses.  Hope and pray you are doing well.  No one is being critical of your choices - please try to understand the choices of others, that's all.  What works for one may or may not work for another.

God Bless.