Why confess your sins ??

[dan p]

 Hi  to all , and most believers sat that we all have to confess our sins , because  1 John 1:9  , If we confess our sins , He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us  FROM  all unrighteousness .

Then , Paul says in Col 2:13 , that have been forgiven  YOU  ALL  TRESPASSES >

So , why confess if we have been forgiven all sins

What say you

[Dani]

Well IMHO, like prayer, it's for us.

God is perfect. He will do what is best - not what we want. When we pray therefore we won't make God do something which isn't for the best. We will however open ourselves up to the possibility of God's guidance and enabling ourselves to be used to achieve a more "perfect" outcome, if you like, than if we refused God's perfect guidance and just went ahead ourselves. Also, prayer is generally for focusing and drawing close to God. IMO, just my opinion.

So confessing our sins - facing them, speaking them, not letting them fester or hide within us, allows us a way of bringing them to God and exorcising and accepting them, so to speak. 

[samuel40]

At the time you are saved, your past sins are forgiven. But that does not, as some say, cover sins committed in the future. So confession of sin is necessary.

Romans 3:25, Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

1John 1;9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10, If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1John 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

[dan p]

At the time you are saved, your past sins are forgiven. But that does not, as some say, cover sins committed in the future. So confession of sin is necessary.

Romans 3:25, Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

1John 1;9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10, If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1John 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hi , and except for your Rom 3:25 all other verses  are directed to Jews under the New Covenant is my short answer ,  and our sins were paid for Past , Present  and Future , or Jesus would have to be nailed to a cross again , dan p

[Lukasaurus]

Forgiveness is through blood.

OT Forgiveness could not make anyone free from guilt

Jesus sacrifice of perfect blood did make us free from guilt and sin once for all. It is not an ongoing sacrifice (Hebrews 10:1-2)

Forgiveness is through blood, not confession or words. When you confess, there is no more forgiveness of sins, because forgiveness was already accomplished. When you confess, you should be thanking God that He already forgave you, instead of begging for something you already have!

1 John 1:6-2:2 is not about Christian practice. It is a contrast of unbelievers (gnostics - who denied sin) and believers (who have confessed they are sinners - confession means to agree with), it is not a bar of soap. If confession is neccesary for forgiveness, Paul did us a great injustice by never mentioning it once in 3/4 of the New Testament.

[samuel40]

Hi , and except for your Rom 3:25 all other verses  are directed to Jews under the New Covenant is my short answer ,  and our sins were paid for Past , Present  and Future , or Jesus would have to be nailed to a cross again , dan p

Define the difference between a Christian Jew, and Gentile?. And show me the verse where the scripture says our sins past, present, and FUTURE are forgiven. Maybe you had better read Romans Ch.8. But I would have to check with a modern version, as it may not accurately translate Rom. Ch. 8. 

[Lukasaurus]

Jesus died once, for all sins. He didn't die again when you trusted Him as Saviour. He only died once.

So here is your verse

1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The OT priest could not wash away sins with blood. But Jesus did. And he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified. And once Jesus made the sacrifice he SAT DOWN (it was finished). It was done once. Your confession does nothing in regards to forgiveness. Jesus doesn't give you a little bit more blood, nor does he shed anymore. It was shed once, for all sin. And when you trust Him, you are cleansed from ALL unrighteousness & ALL sin (1 John 1:7 & 9). We are forgiven ALL trespasses.

Verse 10 and Verse 2 of Hebrews 10 especially say that we are forgiven of all sin guilt and condemnation once for all. Or is Jesus sacrifice just another version of the animal sacrifice and is not enough?

Verse 1 clearly says if the blood of bulls and goats could take away sin, they would never need to sacrifice again. And then it goes on to talk about Jesus better sacrifice and that in Him, we should have no conscience of sin.

[samuel40]

Romans 8:1, There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3, For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4, That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5, For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6, For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8, So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9, But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10, And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11, But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12, Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13, For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

[Lukasaurus]

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Gal 3:3

The flesh is a synonym for living under law. It is not referring to carnality or sinful behaviour, although sinful behaviour may be a symptom of life under law and condemnation and not realising your position in Christ is righteousness and life. Life under law is full of condemnation and the law is called the ministration of sin and DEATH (no wonder you die under law). Life under the Spirit is freedom from sin and from law.

Praise God!

[dan p]

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Gal 3:3

The flesh is a synonym for living under law. It is not referring to carnality or sinful behaviour, although sinful behaviour may be a symptom of life under law and condemnation and not realising your position in Christ is righteousness and life. Life under law is full of condemnation and the law is called the ministration of sin and DEATH (no wonder you die under law). Life under the Spirit is freedom from sin and from law.

Praise God!

Hi Lukasaurus , good post , dan p

[heir]

At the time you are saved, your past sins are forgiven. But that does not, as some say, cover sins committed in the future. So confession of sin is necessary.

Romans 3:25, Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

1John 1;9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10, If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1John 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

When Christ died on the cross for our sins, they were ALL in the future. So if He died for one (and He did) He died for ALL (and He did)! Thank you, Lord!

[chestertonrules]

When Christ died on the cross for our sins, they were ALL in the future. So if He died for one (and He did) He died for ALL (and He did)! Thank you, Lord!
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So you believe that all people are saved?

[heir]

So you believe that all people are saved?

No, one must believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for their sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

[chestertonrules]

So you believe that all people are saved?

No, one must believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for their sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

But you said this:

When Christ died on the cross for our sins, they were ALL in the future. So if He died for one (and He did) He died for ALL (and He did)! Thank you, Lord!

Did Christ die for sins that are not confessed and repented of?

If so, then why aren't all men saved?


What do you make of this?

21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.

[dan p]

  Hi , and Christ tasted death for all , in Hew 2:9 , but Jesus has said narrow is the way that leads to life and BOARD  is the way to death , and there NOT  any verse that says ,  that all will be saved .

[mark s]

2 Corinthians 5:17-20
(17)  So that if any one is in Christ, that one is a new creature; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
(18)  And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
(19)  whereas God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and putting the word of reconciliation in us.
(20)  Then we are ambassadors on behalf of Christ, as God exhorting through us, we beseech you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.

This passage tells us that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their sins against them.

So the world has been reconciled to God.

Paul, however, goes on to urge the reader, "Be reconciled to God."

So reconciliation has two sides to it.

We see that in Romans 5:10-11:

(10)  For if when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
(11)  And not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Here, we were reconciled to God while we were enemies.  This is before we repented and believed.  We were enemies.

And while Paul writes, "while we were enemies we were reconciled to God", he adds that "we have now received the reconciliation."

So it's one thing for God to reconcile us to Himself, but another to receive the reconciliation.


Romans 10:9, the oft quoted "formula for salvation", simply says that if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.  That cannot be wrong.

John, in I John 1:9, is approaching this from a different angle.  To those who say they have no sin, this is saying they are fine being their own master, therefore, they have no need of the Lord Jesus.  But if they will simply say the same as what God says - confess - about their sins, God will forgive them.

If we are to harmonize these teachings, I think that I John 1:9 is saying the same thing as Romans 5:10-11, that We've been reconciled, but we have to receive that reconciliation.  Jesus has forgiven our sins, but we have to receive that forgiveness.

And this is not a repeatable experience.  When we are justified - the application of reconciliation/forgiveness - we remain justified, since we are created a new creature, to which the Law doesn't even apply.  This is why Paul can write, "therefore, there is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus".

Love in Christ,
Mark

[dan p]

 Hi Mark s , and Rom 8:1 is a good verse that says what I have written .

What most believers fail to realize is , that there is a difference between what Jesus did on the cross and the old nature that we are put to death .

Our relationship does not change with god , but as a parent we are chastened , God is not mocked and what we sow to the flesh is not pretty .