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Is Saturday Sabbath Observance Essential?

Started by Hobie, Wed Aug 08, 2018 - 10:51:18

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Amo

Quote from: beam on Sun Aug 18, 2019 - 16:16:31
Sorry Amo, you didn't address my post in the least.  There is no such thing as a Christian sacrificial system.  Jesus was the final sacrifice for all mankind.

I do like Gal5 that you posted because it tells us:
Gal 5:16  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24  And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

It appears that you advocate being under the law because you insist we must observe the 4th commandment of the heart of the law.

19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Is the above not the same legalism you are demanding all are freed from in Christ? One could just as easily reword the above law as -

thou shalt not commit adultery, fornication, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strife, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, reveling, and so on, or you are not saved.

So what, now we can break the ten commandments, but are lost if we do any of the above? Is that your gospel? Have you not just exchanged one set of laws for another? But no, all of the above sins are addressed and encompassed within the ten commandments given to us by God. You simply reject one of them, and must declare it legalism to suggest that it must still be kept by the faithful. Creating some alternative laws or legalism of your own. Or do you deny that those who practice such things will not be saved as Paul states?

Hobie

Quote from: Michael2012 on Sat Nov 03, 2018 - 03:16:22Is Saturday Sabbath Observance Essential?


Essential to what?

Now with regards the 4th commandment of the ten, if you are a Jew, an Israelite, you fulfill it by following what is written in Exodus 20:8-11.

If you are a Christian, consider this today:

Romans 13:19-10
9 The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not covet," and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

"and whatever other command there may be" obviously includes the 4th commandment. The passage tells us not only how the 4th commandment is fulfilled today by the Christian, but even all other command there may be. Love is the fulfillment of the law.


And if one truly loves Christ, does he break and trangress the commandments, of course not, one follows the commandments. And the fourth is one of them...

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