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Habemus Papam! We have a pope! White smoke!!

Started by Catholica, Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 13:09:16

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Catholica


Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Came here to post the same thing... but cha beat me to it!

::wondering::

Carey

That was a quick.  Whoever it may be, may God bless him and guide him in his endeavor.

Catholica

#3
Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina!  Pope Francis I!

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Do we know what name he will take?  I assume he isn't going to be Pope Jorge I...

edit:  found it - he will be Pope Francisco

Wycliffes_Shillelagh


FireSword

Praise the Lord sounds like a reasonable pope.

chosenone

Why cant they choose somone younger, he is already 77.

LightHammer

I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.


Catholica

Quote from: chosenone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 15:45:44
Why cant they choose somone younger, he is already 77.

They can.  They didn't.  What is wrong with 77?  Do you know anything about this man?

FireSword

Quote from: Catholica on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 18:41:18
Quote from: chosenone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 15:45:44
Why cant they choose somone younger, he is already 77.

They can.  They didn't.  What is wrong with 77?  Do you know anything about this man?

She knows his age and his name  ::lookaround::

I'll also add he's from Argentina and his parents were Italian, he also takes a bus to his work place.

forklift

Quote from: chosenone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 15:45:44
Why cant they choose somone younger, he is already 77.

Who knows why the Holy Spirit leads men to do what they do? Why did the Holy Spirit make the Bible seem so confusing that we have so many different versions of the "truth" that I can't keep count? I would think that is a much bigger question, but then that would call your faith into question instead of ours...

Texas Conservative


Catholica

He resigned because he was getting to the point where he felt that his body wouldn't allow him to carry out his duties the way he discerned was needed for the church today. That is what he said and I take him at his word.

Ladonia

Quote from: LightHammer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 16:13:37
I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.



Hey LH, I predicted an hispanic Pope, remember? I like the fact that he seems to be a very humble man, the way he has lived his life. Just what we needed - and a Jesuit to boot!

winsome

Great name. Was it after Francis of Assisi or Francis Xavier (who was a Jesuit also) - or perhaps both?

Yesterday evening (UK time just after 6.00 pm), I was on my computer with the webcam trained on the Sistine Chapel chimney in a small window when the white smoke started. Put on the TV and watched it right through on BBC news channel until he left the balconey.

DaveW

Congrats to my Catholic brothers and sisters on your new leader!  ::smile:: 
My prayers are with him.

DaveW

Quote from: chosenone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 15:45:44
Why cant they choose someone younger, he is already 77.
Pope John-Paul 1 was chosen at age 65 and John-Paul 2 was age 58. The first lasted one month (33 days) and JP2 for a quarter century.

Picking someone younger does not really mean much.

winsome

Quote from: DaveW on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 06:07:05
Quote from: chosenone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 15:45:44
Why cant they choose someone younger, he is already 77.
Pope John-Paul 1 was chosen at age 65 and John-Paul 2 was age 58. The first lasted one month (33 days) and JP2 for a quarter century.

Picking someone younger does not really mean much.

I agree

Pope John XXII was 77 and lasted less than 5 years. But look what he achieved in calling the Second Vatican Council.

winsome

From todays Telegraph (UK daily paper)


09.15 The Telegraph's John Bingham reports from the Vatican City:
Clergy at the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore were taken by suprise by the Pope's early morning visit.
He arrived just after 8am and stayed around 45 minutes, praying silently in front of the shrine of Mary 'Salvation of the people of Rome' before visiting the tombs of two of his predecessors Pius V and Sixtus V.
Father Elio Monteleone said: "Every Pope, after his election comes to this church but the other Popes came many days after their election the surprise was that he came here the day after - and first thing in the morning."
He explained: "He went to pray not to preach, not to say anything to us but to pray.

09.37 John Bingham reports:
It looks like the 76-year-old Pope is going to keep his minders on their toes. He started his pontificate with a ride on a bog standard minibus instead of a special car. He is reported to have nipped out into Rome last night. And this morning he was up with the lark and scooted half-way across the city to pray at the Papal basilica of St Mary Major, taking even the dominicans by surprise. There are already comparisons being made with John XXIII whose reign was expected to be a quiet affair but ended up revolutionising the church.


09.55 More from Nick Squires in the Vatican City:
"The austerity of Jorge Mario Bergoglio is legendary," says Corriere della Sera this morning. "In Buenos Aires he goes around by bus, he doesn't live in the bishop's residence but in a little apartment, he prepares his own dinner and in the evening he eats little or nothing - just tea and a bit of fruit."
When he was created a cardinal by John Paul II in 2001, his congregation had a whip round to raise money so they could accompany him on his trip to Rome. But he asked them all to stay at home in Argentina, to give the collection to the poor, and to let him travel to the Vatican on his own.
He comes from a working class background - before emigrating to Italy his father was a railway worker. He came from Portacomaro, near the town of Asti in the northwestern region of Piedmont.


WILDJC

Children of Christ,

I would like to extend my love and congratulations to the Catholic flock on this forum. Pope Francis has many humble beginnings and I think he shall serve you well by keeping his example of piety.

May he do the Lord's will and I pray that ALL Christians become the Good Samaritan together under God the Father, Jesus His Son and Savior, and our Comforter the Holy Spirit.

It is time to rejoice! Let us rejoice and put away differences.

Amen.


John

Carey

Quote from: WILDJC on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 07:15:29
Children of Christ,

I would like to extend my love and congratulations to the Catholic flock on this forum. Pope Francis has many humble beginnings and I think he shall serve you well by keeping his example of piety.

May he do the Lord's will and I pray that ALL Christians become the Good Samaritan together under God the Father, Jesus His Son and Savior, and our Comforter the Holy Spirit.

It is time to rejoice! Let us rejoice and put away differences.

Amen.


John

::smile::

Carey

So two hours ago....

QuoteThe pope chose the name Francis after Francis of Assisi, the spokesman confirms.

And Pope Francis took the bus back to St Martha's House with the other cardinals rather than taking the special paper car, he says.

During his meal last night, Pope Francis told the cardinals: may God forgive you for what you've done, the spokesman says.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/14/pope-francis-first-day

Love this guy, sounds like a great choice.


MeMyself

Quote from: Carey on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 09:12:30
So two hours ago....

QuoteThe pope chose the name Francis after Francis of Assisi, the spokesman confirms.

And Pope Francis took the bus back to St Martha's House with the other cardinals rather than taking the special paper car, he says.

During his meal last night, Pope Francis told the cardinals: may God forgive you for what you've done, the spokesman says.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/14/pope-francis-first-day

Love this guy, sounds like a great choice.



Though I am not Catholic, I too am liking what I hear of his character and walk with God!  May He use this humble man in mighty ways!

Ladonia

Quote from: WILDJC on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 07:15:29
Children of Christ,

I would like to extend my love and congratulations to the Catholic flock on this forum. Pope Francis has many humble beginnings and I think he shall serve you well by keeping his example of piety.

May he do the Lord's will and I pray that ALL Christians become the Good Samaritan together under God the Father, Jesus His Son and Savior, and our Comforter the Holy Spirit.

It is time to rejoice! Let us rejoice and put away differences.

Amen.


John
[/quote

Thank you very much for your kind words. I am also encouraged by his piety and concern for the common person. Today he just upped and leftt the Vatican for a visit to a local church to pray and even stopped by the hotel to get his own bags! His security people will certainly have their hands full.

Catholica

Quote from: Ladonia on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 00:47:33
Quote from: LightHammer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 16:13:37
I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.



Hey LH, I predicted an hispanic Pope, remember? I like the fact that he seems to be a very humble man, the way he has lived his life. Just what we needed - and a Jesuit to boot!

I was nervous when they said he was Jesuit, because there have been problems with Jesuit theology of late.  There are some orthodox Jesuits out there but I have heard that other Jesuits in the order give them a hard time.  Apparently Jesuits did not like Cardinal Bergoglio, and his believes are orthodox.  So that's a very good thing.

Ladonia

Quote from: Catholica on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 11:06:46
Quote from: Ladonia on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 00:47:33
Quote from: LightHammer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 16:13:37
I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.



Hey LH, I predicted an hispanic Pope, remember? I like the fact that he seems to be a very humble man, the way he has lived his life. Just what we needed - and a Jesuit to boot!

I was nervous when they said he was Jesuit, because there have been problems with Jesuit theology of late.  There are some orthodox Jesuits out there but I have heard that other Jesuits in the order give them a hard time.  Apparently Jesuits did not like Cardinal Bergoglio, and his believes are orthodox.  So that's a very good thing.

Yes, I know about that. Thank God he's orthodox in his thinking. The other Cardinals did their homework here and I am happy with the result. 

Carey

Quote from: LadoniaHis security people will certainly have their hands full.

rofl

Yup gotta say a prayer for them to be patient, and protect him even in such difficult circumstance.  It must be somewhat difficult for a man of deep faith, and humility to accept such protection, but there is a lot of evil out there, may God protect him.

::prayinghard::

LightHammer

Quote from: Ladonia on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 00:47:33
Quote from: LightHammer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 16:13:37
I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.



Hey LH, I predicted an hispanic Pope, remember? I like the fact that he seems to be a very humble man, the way he has lived his life. Just what we needed - and a Jesuit to boot!

A Jesuit is sure to make the conspiracy theorists jump in their seats. But who cares! I'm very excited to see a Jesuit become Pope.

Its high time we stop caring about what non Catholics think and focus on our own. We are 1.2 billion strong, concentrate our efforts on our own and the outside world won't be a problem.

"Let the world indulge its madness. But we buried deep within the wounds of Christ, why should we be dismayed?" St. Peter Canisius S.J.

Perfect for the times we live in.

LightHammer

Quote from: Catholica on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 11:06:46
Quote from: Ladonia on Thu Mar 14, 2013 - 00:47:33
Quote from: LightHammer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 - 16:13:37
I think that may be the point. Moving away from long ruling monarch style popes to a more monk style papacy like that of Pope St Gregory I.

Pope Francis I what an excellent name to take.



Hey LH, I predicted an hispanic Pope, remember? I like the fact that he seems to be a very humble man, the way he has lived his life. Just what we needed - and a Jesuit to boot!

I was nervous when they said he was Jesuit, because there have been problems with Jesuit theology of late.  There are some orthodox Jesuits out there but I have heard that other Jesuits in the order give them a hard time.  Apparently Jesuits did not like Cardinal Bergoglio, and his believes are orthodox.  So that's a very good thing.

I know the crack down on liberatin theology was a big disappointment to some of the more progressive Jesuits but I think Pope Francis will do us proud.

winsome

I'm very encouraged by what I've heard of him so far.

I think there are a lot of hopes and expectations around and he's not going to please everyone. It's a big task he has been given.



Ladonia

I have been getting a kick out of the press reports after his first Mass and homily, comparing him to the previous Pope. Don't these folks understand the we all have our own special gifts to offer? Pope Bennedict Emeritus is an intelllectual and came to us in that mode and I love him for it - and he also had that ability to do it in a familiar way.  I wasn't intimidated by him at all.

Now, Pope Francis is different and will add much to the papacy and show the world the depth of character that is in the Church.  This is a  beautiful change that will leave us all much the richer.

drewhemm

Quote from: LightHammer on Fri Mar 15, 2013 - 10:39:35
A Jesuit is sure to make the conspiracy theorists jump in their seats.

I was in the car with my wife on the way home on the day Cardinal Bergoglio was chosen, although we hadn't heard anything about it at that point. As if out of nowhere, I had a funny feeling and turned to my wife and said, "Imagine if the next pope were a Jesuit". She asked, "Has there ever been a Jesuit pope?". I answered, "I don't know, but we are living in interesting times, anything could happen".

Needless to say, when we got home, checked the news and saw the election of the first Jesuit pope, my wife and I were flabbergasted; if it wasn't for the fact we were both already standing yes, we would have jumped out of our seats...

Quote from: LightHammer on Fri Mar 15, 2013 - 10:39:35
I'm very excited to see a Jesuit become Pope.

So are we...

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