Do most men cheat on their wife given the opportunity with a beautiful woman?

[chosenone]

Yes there are temptations firewsword, for men and women, but there are many ways of not putting ourselves into that temptation. Blocking programmes for computers, not watching R rated movies, avoiding places where there will be scantily clad women etc. In the early churches time, there was masses of temptation and immorality around, hence much of Pauls teaching on morality, sexual sin and the importance of faithfulness etc.

Unfortunately your attitude is prevalent among the Church of apathy and putting their heads in the sand about the danger society is in. At the rate we are going west will become Sodom and Gomorrah, where people and strange flesh are regularly raped on the streets, how will the Church react then, when it's too late to change things.
Please excuse my graphic rant if you want to.
One guy I know showed me a popular group naked lesbian dance video which included bestiality during lunch hour. The people thought I was crazy for frowning about it and the woman also mocked me for my stance I despised them for their cowardly position, as I then hear them a year later talking about how strange nudists are[/color]. The general population do not have morals any more, you can show them anything, it is the spirit of things, they could be absolutely disgusted but the spirit of compromise prevails. Remember Lot how his soul was waxed great when he camped his tent outside Sodom and Gomorah? Well the righteous are waxed in soul and spirit by simply living in certain areas and it spread like a virus to other places. When I was younger I hardly ever got spiritual attack, hardly any bad sexual language , but now just about every day, because some people dare to be immoral like these pop stars and the rest compromise and think you should tough it out or some nonsense like that, there's a saying which says if you can't beat them, join them. I try my best to avoid this kind of stuff, but it always pops up, out of nowhere like that Tarantino film about Jews killing Hitler, so I greatly fear for todays and tomorrows men, I'm angry that this people has been robbed of their dignity, but God promised his kingdom come as it is in heaven, so more righteousness not less of it, more self control, dignity and contentment.

You said it very well. In the UK there are now MPs who want to lower the age of consent, and there have been politicians in Germany who have said that sex with children and animals should be legalized. Somebody said that when the law becomes this perverted, you are dealing with satanic law. This is where the church has greatly failed. Christianity today--more like pop Christianity--does indeed stick its head in the sand and doesn't like to deal with the dark stuff. Political correctness has taken over most churches and the churches just aren't standing up for the truth.

A tiny number of politicians may want to do those things, nearly all dont. Also your judgement of churches is very sweeping.  I havent been to a church such as you describe in well over 40 years. Many churches are very strong on moral values and such like, maybe you need to look around for a better church if that is your experience?

It will only be a matter of time before child abuse becomes the norm. Just a few decades ago abortion was illegal, now it's the norm. And I don't go to church. Too much hypocrisy and political correctness.

There are loads of good churches around, you just have to make the effort to try some. How many churches have you been to? THere will never be a perfect one, because its made up of imperfect people like you and I.  We are told not to stop meeting with other believers.

I don't agree that child abuse will become the norm. In my country the UK, children are far far more protected generally than they were 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago.

I also live in the UK and I do not believe children are more protected. Many schools now teach children the joys of anal sex. Children are being sexualized and child abuse is becoming more and more rampant, but remain in denial if it makes you feel better. Christians don't have to meet in church to gather together. Most churches are corrupt and politically correct, which is why I don't go to church.

No most churches churches arent corrupt and politically correct, there are countless good churches. We have at least 4 or 5 good and godly churches in my small town alone.How many churches have you actually tried going to?

  I have 3 children, 2 step children and a grandson, I think I know a fair amount about kids and schools.
100 years ago most children had a terrible time, working all hours in horrible jobs, little education, abuse was rife, no child protection at all, kids living in the most appalling poverty that we can not imagine today. Many died in childbirth or in early childhood from disease or were crippled by polio. In so many ways things have improved.

Sure, that's why we now have millions of abortions where millions of unborn children are murdered every year in the womb. That's why we have more and more underage sex and teenage pregnancies with a perverted sex education. That's why child prostitution has sky rocketed. Yes, children today are so protected.

I think you will find that most of those things were far more prevailant in centuries past. 

[chosenone]

Mr H

read some of these appalling articles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/shp/britishsociety/livingworkingconditionsrev1.shtml

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1312764/Britains-child-slaves-New-book-says-misery-helped-forge-Britain.html

http://www.history.co.uk/study-topics/history-of-death/trends-in-death

[Mr_Handsome]

Yes there are temptations firewsword, for men and women, but there are many ways of not putting ourselves into that temptation. Blocking programmes for computers, not watching R rated movies, avoiding places where there will be scantily clad women etc. In the early churches time, there was masses of temptation and immorality around, hence much of Pauls teaching on morality, sexual sin and the importance of faithfulness etc.

Unfortunately your attitude is prevalent among the Church of apathy and putting their heads in the sand about the danger society is in. At the rate we are going west will become Sodom and Gomorrah, where people and strange flesh are regularly raped on the streets, how will the Church react then, when it's too late to change things.
Please excuse my graphic rant if you want to.
One guy I know showed me a popular group naked lesbian dance video which included bestiality during lunch hour. The people thought I was crazy for frowning about it and the woman also mocked me for my stance I despised them for their cowardly position, as I then hear them a year later talking about how strange nudists are[/color]. The general population do not have morals any more, you can show them anything, it is the spirit of things, they could be absolutely disgusted but the spirit of compromise prevails. Remember Lot how his soul was waxed great when he camped his tent outside Sodom and Gomorah? Well the righteous are waxed in soul and spirit by simply living in certain areas and it spread like a virus to other places. When I was younger I hardly ever got spiritual attack, hardly any bad sexual language , but now just about every day, because some people dare to be immoral like these pop stars and the rest compromise and think you should tough it out or some nonsense like that, there's a saying which says if you can't beat them, join them. I try my best to avoid this kind of stuff, but it always pops up, out of nowhere like that Tarantino film about Jews killing Hitler, so I greatly fear for todays and tomorrows men, I'm angry that this people has been robbed of their dignity, but God promised his kingdom come as it is in heaven, so more righteousness not less of it, more self control, dignity and contentment.

You said it very well. In the UK there are now MPs who want to lower the age of consent, and there have been politicians in Germany who have said that sex with children and animals should be legalized. Somebody said that when the law becomes this perverted, you are dealing with satanic law. This is where the church has greatly failed. Christianity today--more like pop Christianity--does indeed stick its head in the sand and doesn't like to deal with the dark stuff. Political correctness has taken over most churches and the churches just aren't standing up for the truth.

A tiny number of politicians may want to do those things, nearly all dont. Also your judgement of churches is very sweeping.  I havent been to a church such as you describe in well over 40 years. Many churches are very strong on moral values and such like, maybe you need to look around for a better church if that is your experience?

It will only be a matter of time before child abuse becomes the norm. Just a few decades ago abortion was illegal, now it's the norm. And I don't go to church. Too much hypocrisy and political correctness.

There are loads of good churches around, you just have to make the effort to try some. How many churches have you been to? THere will never be a perfect one, because its made up of imperfect people like you and I.  We are told not to stop meeting with other believers.

I don't agree that child abuse will become the norm. In my country the UK, children are far far more protected generally than they were 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago.

I also live in the UK and I do not believe children are more protected. Many schools now teach children the joys of anal sex. Children are being sexualized and child abuse is becoming more and more rampant, but remain in denial if it makes you feel better. Christians don't have to meet in church to gather together. Most churches are corrupt and politically correct, which is why I don't go to church.

No most churches churches arent corrupt and politically correct, there are countless good churches. We have at least 4 or 5 good and godly churches in my small town alone.How many churches have you actually tried going to?

  I have 3 children, 2 step children and a grandson, I think I know a fair amount about kids and schools.
100 years ago most children had a terrible time, working all hours in horrible jobs, little education, abuse was rife, no child protection at all, kids living in the most appalling poverty that we can not imagine today. Many died in childbirth or in early childhood from disease or were crippled by polio. In so many ways things have improved.

Sure, that's why we now have millions of abortions where millions of unborn children are murdered every year in the womb. That's why we have more and more underage sex and teenage pregnancies with a perverted sex education. That's why child prostitution has sky rocketed. Yes, children today are so protected.

I think you will find that most of those things were far more prevailant in centuries past.

Sure