New Here - I love Comparing Science and Scripture

[Quantumbit]

Hey everyone.

I believe that Scripture goes hand in hand with Science, Biology and many other things.

Hope that isn't a problem!

I would love to share my research with you.

[Jaime]

Welcome to the forum! Go for it. Look forward to seeing your research

[Quantumbit]

Thanks Jaime.

I started a new thread here...

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/apologetics-forum/the-tabernacle-in-the-wilderness-is-a-scale-model-of-a-biological-cell/

I find it a fascinating topic and I hope others will too.

[3 Resurrections]

Quantumbit  -  Will definitely check in on your posts.  Are you by any chance a fan of the Louie Giglio type of presentation?  I thoroughly enjoyed his videos, and the "Laminin" clip from his "How Great Is Our God" video was superb.  I'm not a very brilliant person, but years ago I used to homeschool our two young sons, and I remember being totally blown away by the connection between the material in their physical science book and scripture.  Perhaps the author never intended to convey a link between the intricate construction in the polarity of the humble water molecule and God's election and omnipotence, but I passed my thoughts on to my sons and I hope they enjoyed it as much as I did.

[Quantumbit]

Are you by any chance a fan of the Louie Giglio type of presentation?  I thoroughly enjoyed his videos, and the "Laminin" clip from his "How Great Is Our God" video was superb.

Hi 3 Resurrections.

I've heard of Laminin being compared to Scripture. Very cool stuff.

I've never seen Louie Giglio before.

I'll check out his Laminin presentation out on YouTube!

[Quantumbit]

Now that was an excellent presentation!

https://youtu.be/F0-NPPIeeRk

[3 Resurrections]

Yeah, Louie Giglio's enthusiasm is really infectuous. 

Here's a verse that came into sharp focus once I understood the basic premise behind the nitrogen cycle from my kid's science books back in the days of homeschooling.  It's found in Psalms 135:6-7, "Whatsoever the Lord pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.  He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries."

Using my dumb laymen's terms to explain this, apparently lightning passing through the atmosphere will superheat the air and break down its nitrogen into a form that turns into nitric acid when combined with the rain.  This means that God is making fertilizer in the sky with the use of lightning bolts.  So when Psalms 135:7 says that God makes lightning FOR the rain, it was exactly  describing the nitrogen cycle before people had ever slapped that label on it. 

[RB]

Using my dumb laymen's terms to explain this, apparently lightning passing through the atmosphere will superheat the air and break down its nitrogen into a form that turns into nitric acid when combined with the rain.  This means that God is making fertilizer in the sky with the use of lightning bolts.  So when Psalms 135:7 says that God makes lightning FOR the rain, it was exactly  describing the nitrogen cycle before people had ever slapped that label on it.

God's wisdom is so far greater than man's...yea if all the best minds that ever lived would join hand in hand they would not even have a speck of wisdom in comparison to our Great God. Any farmer will tell you (without having this knowledge that 3 "R" just shared with us) that after a lighting storm their fields (let's say corn) would perk up and GROW THAT VERY NIGHT beacuse of GOD using the BEST NITROGEN available that CANNOT be bought from you local Ace Hardware! Oh, and the AL Gore's of the world thinks that without THEM God just could not do his work of taking care of his creation! Blessed be our God who does such wonders that in truth goes unnoticed by the world, yet those whom he has chosen and enlightened SMILES with having being given this wonderful privilege by the grace of God to know him  that with Him nothing is impossible. I love this verse:

Genesis 1:16~"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

Yes God made the sun and the moon....and btw the way~he made the stars ALSO...meaning: no big deal! I love him because he first loved me. And I'm SO thankful that he did. WHAT a God we know and serve.

[bornofgod]

Do you have a good concept of the invisible world that God created?

Do you understand this verse:

Genesis 1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[RB]

Do you have a good concept of the invisible world that God created?

Do you understand this verse:

Genesis 1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

WHO are you asking? "the earth was without form, and void" Means nothing more than the Spirit showing to God's children the steps that God took in creating this earth and all things there therein. Of course, the first step would mean that the earth was without form and void and without many other things...So, then God said Let there be light, etc. etc. He took six days, yet he DID NOT need to do so but did. There are reasons why he took six days and then rested the seventh....although he did not need to rest, now did he?

"the earth was without form, and void"~too many people read too much into those words that the scriptures will not support.

[bornofgod]

It means the earth was created from God's invisible thoughts into invisible waves. The earth is not a real object made of material things. It's only an illusion that each created being experiences as his flesh ( also an illusion ) walks on the ground.

Don't you know anything about quantum mechanics?

[RB]

It means the earth was created from God's invisible thoughts into invisible waves. The earth is not a real object made of material things. It's only an illusion that each created being experiences as his flesh ( also an illusion ) walks on the ground.

Don't you know anything about quantum mechanics?

Last post to you~you are wasting your time of showing me just how stupid you are~I do not talk or reason with people like you who are void of any understanding, and who needs to be in a mental cell with padded walls. You are here ONLY to disrupt this forum. You need to take a long walk on a very short pier during a Hurricane would help taxpayers btw...why waste the money on people like you.

[bornofgod]

I understand everything that God has revealed to me through the teachings He delivered to me via His Holy Spirit. No man can learn this knowledge by reading the Bible. Only God knows what the symbolic meanings are in the prophecies so He's the only One who can teach the Truth.

[chosenone]

Quantumbit  -  Will definitely check in on your posts.  Are you by any chance a fan of the Louie Giglio type of presentation?  I thoroughly enjoyed his videos, and the "Laminin" clip from his "How Great Is Our God" video was superb.  I'm not a very brilliant person, but years ago I used to homeschool our two young sons, and I remember being totally blown away by the connection between the material in their physical science book and scripture.  Perhaps the author never intended to convey a link between the intricate construction in the polarity of the humble water molecule and God's election and omnipotence, but I passed my thoughts on to my sons and I hope they enjoyed it as much as I did.

I love his Dvds, they are so interesting.

[Quantumbit]

This means that God is making fertilizer in the sky with the use of lightning bolts.

This is brilliant!

You have no idea... or maybe you do, lol.

You seem to have a gift for this sort of stuff, for you see Nitrogen is *KEY* in Scripture.

Very, very Key.

The fact that you were able to connect it to Lightning is too profound for me to explain right now.

It has to do with Satan as Lightning trying to steal the Word of God and God's Children.

For now I will say this...

Nitrogen is Element SEVEN.

Is the number Seven important in Scripture? You bet it is.

What's so special about Nitrogen besides making Seed grow into Wheat and Tares?

Think Nucleobases...

Adenine
Cytosine
Guanine
Thymine
Uracil

These are called 'Nitrogenous Bases'.

They are literally the Word of God...

Psalm 139:16
"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them"

DNA is a Book.

That Book became Flesh and 'Tabernacled' among us...

John 1:14
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth"



There is much to talk about regarding Nitrogen in Scripture.

One more...

Zechariah 3:9
"For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day"

Why would a Stone have Seven Eyes?

Think Seven Electrons... Element Seven... Nitrogenous Bases.

The Stone With Seven Eyes is in reference to Nucleobases.

There will be an 'engraving'... i.e. WORDS. A new Genetic Sequence in which Sin will be removed from the Flesh.

Holy Genetic Engineering? You be the judge.

[Quantumbit]

GOD using the BEST NITROGEN available

Matthew 13:30
"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn"

[Quantumbit]

It means the earth was created from God's invisible thoughts into invisible waves. The earth is not a real object made of material things. It's only an illusion that each created being experiences as his flesh ( also an illusion ) walks on the ground.

Don't you know anything about quantum mechanics?

This is interesting!

Let's explore it...

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

Words can be likened to Software Code.

Thus, in the beginning, only the 'Software Code' existed.

Can we get another Witness?

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear"

There you go. The 'Word' is the 'Framework' or 'Software Code' that the World is built upon.

Things which are "seen" (i.e. Atoms) are made of things that 'do not appear' in other words... the Words.

The Word (Software) is invisible to us!

[Quantumbit]

Things which are "seen" (i.e. Atoms) are made of things that 'do not appear' in other words... the Words.

Let's take that a step further.

Romans 1:20
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse"

OK, so the 'Invisible Things', that is to say, the Software Code or Word of God, can be clearly seen via something called 'The Godhead'.

In other words, 'things that are made' consist of Godheads.

The verse even goes on to say that Mankind has 'NO EXCUSE' for not knowing this.

These Godheads sound like Atoms!

Let's explore the Godhead...

1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one"

The Godhead is made of three components.

Father
Word
Holy Ghost

My that sounds familiar!

Let's see...

Father = Neutron
Word = Proton
Holy Ghost = Electron

Could it be?!?!?

Read that verse again...

Romans 1:20
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse"

Things that are made consist of Godheads... i.e. the Generic Structure of an Atom!

No way!

Let's test the Spirit to make sure we aren't crazy.

Holy Ghost = Electron

We all know the flow of Electrons creates Power.

I wonder if the Holy Ghost has anything to do with Power?

[Quantumbit]

the earth was created from God's invisible thoughts into invisible waves.

Waves eh?

When Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, they may have existed in Wave Form only.

What happened next?

Genesis 3:7
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons"

Adam and Eve were the first beings to have their "Eyes Opened".

You know what that means right?

What happens when one observes a Wave?

Yes, it collapses.

By eating the Forbidden Fruit, Adam and Eve were the first beings to collapse the Wave Function!

You know what we call that event?

The Big Bang.

[Quantumbit]

Am I being too far out?