He aint president yet. It now is in the hands of the electoral college.

[Rella]

While we certainly expect for President-elect Trump to be sworn in on Jan 20, 2017 there is nothing that binds the electoral college to actually vote for him. What is the expected norm can well be offset by an electors conscience as the one from Washington State, this year, saying that in no way would they vote for Hillary.

Now, with this little tidbit nagging at the back of my brain I run across this a few minutes ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/500-000-people-sign-petition-203109567.html

[Rella]

Now the petition signers are up to 2.4 million, to persuade the Electoral College to vote for Hillary over Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/millions-sign-petition-urging-electoral-college-to-elect-hillary-clinton-175038196.html

[Victor08]

http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=967

State Control of Electors

There is no federal law that requires electors to vote as they have pledged, but 29 states and the District of Columbia have legal control over how their electors vote in the Electoral College. This means their electors are bound by state law and/or by state or party pledge to cast their vote for the candidate that wins the statewide popular vote. At the same time, this also means that there are 21 states in the union that have no requirements of, or legal control over, their electors. Therefore, despite the outcome of a state's popular vote, the state's electors are ultimately free to vote in whatever manner they please, including an abstention, with no legal repercussions. The states with legal control over their electors are the following 29 and D.C.:
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Over the years, however, despite legal oversight, a number of electors have violated their state's law binding them to their pledged vote. However, these violators often only face being charged with a misdemeanor or a small fine, usually $1,000. Many constitutional scholars agree that electors remain free agents despite state laws and that, if challenged, such laws would be ruled unconstitutional. Therefore, electors can decline to cast their vote for a specific candidate (the one that wins the popular vote of their state), either voting for an alternative candidate, or abstaining completely. In fact, in the 2000 election, Barbara Lett-Simmons, an elector for the District of Columbia, cast a blank ballot for president and vice president in protest of the District's unfair voting rights. Indeed, when it comes down to it, electors are ultimately free to vote for whom they personally prefer, despite the general public's desire.

[Rella]

Indeed, when it comes down to it, electors are ultimately free to vote for whom they personally prefer, despite the general public's desire.

Hence the title of this thread.

With the mentality of those signing the petitions and protests going on.... who knows what the Electors will do.
especially if the Clintons buy or coerce them to vote for Hillary.

It was Trump himself who said both Bill and Hillary were very nice in the way they congratulated him.
That is not them...

something may well be up

[chosenone]

Indeed, when it comes down to it, electors are ultimately free to vote for whom they personally prefer, despite the general public's desire.

Hence the title of this thread.

With the mentality of those signing the petitions and protests going on.... who knows what the Electors will do.
especially if the Clintons buy or coerce them to vote for Hillary.

It was Trump himself who said both Bill and Hillary were very nice in the way they congratulated him.
That is not them...

something may well be up

We have been dealing with that since we voted for brexit and will be for ages to come. A load of immature babies who are having  tantrums because the vote didnt go their way. We have all had to deal with that in our lives.

[chosenone]

Now the petition signers are up to 2.4 million, to persuade the Electoral College to vote for Hillary over Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/millions-sign-petition-urging-electoral-college-to-elect-hillary-clinton-175038196.html

More people who dont believe in democracy.

[Rella]

Now the petition signers are up to 2.4 million, to persuade the Electoral College to vote for Hillary over Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/millions-sign-petition-urging-electoral-college-to-elect-hillary-clinton-175038196.html

More people who dont believe in democracy.

True...

However... we in the US are not a real democracy. We are a representative republic, which is where a lot of the problem lies.

In addition, another concern... with the the petition idea of things is that many people signing would not have voted. Their signatures should not count. (Not to mention that the protesters all appear to be in their early 20s... wanting their free education)

But , the fact that they signed... voters or not.... might just sway an elector or two. I pray not.
We did have one from a Democratic state say he would not give his vote to Hillary... so who knows.

I really do not expect a change from this... but I do find it disconcerting.

[Rella]

Just one elector so far has wavered publicly on supporting Trump.

Texas Republican Art Sisneros says he has reservations about the president-elect, but not because of the national popular vote.

https://verizon.yahoo.com/news/trump-opponents-try-beat-him-electoral-college-163030962--politics.html?ref=gs

[Alan]

Not to worry, I don't believe there is any chance of changing the minds of the Electors and not a single GoP Elector would vote for Clinton, the emails, petitions, and social media pleas are all in vain.