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Jesus and marriage!

Started by MarkHooper, Tue Jan 01, 2008 - 21:32:19

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MarkHooper


Can Jesus relate to married people?

janine

What, among the many examples Jesus set regarding love of God and love of Man and holy living and joy and fun and service and determination and, well, just everything He ever did and said in His life on Earth --

What among all that can a married person not use?

So, if all that Jesus said and did can make me a better person, and a better married person -- not even mentioning the salvation, I'm just talking about the mechanics of daily living -- If Jesus did and said so much that is useful to me as a married person, I believe He had, and has, no trouble relating to married people.

grace

I believe he can relate to any thing we go through.

I question this when I went through my divorce. In prayer, I wondered, how can you(Jesus) understand what I am going through. You have never been married and divorced. I felt rejected among other emotions.

In His quiet patience voice, he spoke to my heart and said "YES" I relate to your pain, I am rejected everyday my milllions.


Sherman Nobles

Jesus, God in flesh can relate to both marriage and divorce.  The OT often mentions the analogy of God being married to Israel.  And in Jer.3.8 God also identifies with the divorce'.  God/Jesus identifies with the struggles of marriage and even divorce.


Mr. J

Quote from: MarkHooper on Tue Jan 01, 2008 - 21:32:19

Can Jesus relate to married people?

Wow.  If I posted that question I think I'd be concerned how to defend such on Judgment Day.

God.  He created man and created woman for the man knowing that it was not good for man to be alone.  He created marriage.  He knows and numbers every hair on your head.  He knows your heart.

Jesus, the Son of God, who was before the earth was.  You wonder if He understands married people? 

Blasphemy.


Rainbows4me

Aren't we His bride and isn't He the Bridegroom?  Ever read Song of Solomon?  Isn't He coming back for us? 
Of course He can relate.  Besides, He is omnipresent, so He was there when we were created!  He is omniscient...knowing EVERYTHING! 
Have faith...He understands! ::clappingoverhead::

bemark

He understands fully     as he became it at the cross

All our sin        he understands it all


Rainbows4me


MarkHooper


If Jesus relates to marriage what did he say about it?

chosenone

Well, as we believe that Jesus is God and the Bible is Gods word, then he wrote a lot about marriage. Just look up in a Bible concordance for the words marriage, husband, wife etc etc and you will find loads of verses and instructions about marriage.

Good one to start from is husbands love your wives and wives respect your husbands. In my experience (and I am a woman) the church teaches the first bit ie that husbands should love their wives but ignores the second about wives respecting their husbands but that is beginning to change with new books and teachers about marriage on the scene now.

cristals mama

Quote from: chosenone on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 20:25:34
Well, as we believe that Jesus is God and the Bible is Gods word, then he wrote a lot about marriage. Just look up in a Bible concordance for the words marriage, husband, wife etc etc and you will find loads of verses and instructions about marriage.

Good one to start from is husbands love your wives and wives respect your husbands. In my experience (and I am a woman) the church teaches the first bit ie that husbands should love their wives but ignores the second about wives respecting their husbands but that is beginning to change with new books and teachers about marriage on the scene now.

I disagree, I have heard much more on the submit submit submit obey to women both in church and especially with respect to domestic abuse- my husband liked to throw that one at me as often as possible in an effort to basically say that he was allowed to do what he wants because wives are supposed to submit.

In my experience it is the husbands love your wives part that is usually skipped right over!

chosenone

Quote from: cristals mama on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 21:16:52
Quote from: chosenone on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 20:25:34
Well, as we believe that Jesus is God and the Bible is Gods word, then he wrote a lot about marriage. Just look up in a Bible concordance for the words marriage, husband, wife etc etc and you will find loads of verses and instructions about marriage.

Good one to start from is husbands love your wives and wives respect your husbands. In my experience (and I am a woman) the church teaches the first bit ie that husbands should love their wives but ignores the second about wives respecting their husbands but that is beginning to change with new books and teachers about marriage on the scene now.

I disagree, I have heard much more on the submit submit submit obey to women both in church and especially with respect to domestic abuse- my husband liked to throw that one at me as often as possible in an effort to basically say that he was allowed to do what he wants because wives are supposed to submit.

In my experience it is the husbands love your wives part that is usually skipped right over!

I guess it depends on where you live and where you go to church. I am from the uk and I have never heard any teaching on wives submitting to their husbands till I started finding teaching from America. The books that I have read and the teaching i have heard recently have generally been very balanced on both sides.(such as the love and respect books)
certainly the conferences my husband attended in the past with his ex wife were very biased aginst the men, of course both men and women take advantage of what the Bible says, as in your husbands case and my husbands ex wives case.

I know that my husband will never be able to love me exactly as Christ loves the church becuase he isnt perfect, and I will never be able to be the perfect wife either, but as long as that is what we are working towards  and what we desire, then that is what is important, and we need God to help us to do this. 

HRoberson

No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Hehealedme

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chosenone

Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Hope you are joking with this post either that or I am very worried about you..........

God is God is God. He knows everything, sees everything, made everything.
He made man and women, He made them to be together, He made them to have children, He made them to have sex, He made them to be a family.
Saying that Jesus (God) doesnt know about marriage is like saying the He deosnt know about anything else in the universe. HE MADE IT> HE KNOWS> IT WAS HIS IDEA> He knows far more about us and our spouse that we do, He knows what makes us tick,He is the very marriage guidance counsellor there could ever be, He knows the begnning from the end, He knows how many hairs are on our head and how many grains of sand are on the sea shore.
This is why we need to take note of the teachng about the marriage in the BIble, it is from the expert in all marriages, the creator of marriages, the creator of families.

cristals mama

Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Well if you are serious I certainly hope that you do not have a wife!  Considering all of the scripture about marriage and how husbands and wives are to treat and guide each other, your view is certainly twisted.  As far as Adam and Eve goes God made Eve not to be Adam's servant but to be his companion (there was no laundry in the garden!), he took her from Adam's side not his feet so he could step all over her!

Genesis 2: 18-21

The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

chosenone

Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:06:45
Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Well if you are serious I certainly hope that you do not have a wife!  Considering all of the scripture about marriage and how husbands and wives are to treat and guide each other, your view is certainly twisted.  As far as Adam and Eve goes God made Eve not to be Adam's servant but to be his companion (there was no laundry in the garden!), he took her from Adam's side not his feet so he could step all over her!

Genesis 2: 18-21

The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

cristals mama

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:15:44
Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:06:45
Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Well if you are serious I certainly hope that you do not have a wife!  Considering all of the scripture about marriage and how husbands and wives are to treat and guide each other, your view is certainly twisted.  As far as Adam and Eve goes God made Eve not to be Adam's servant but to be his companion (there was no laundry in the garden!), he took her from Adam's side not his feet so he could step all over her!

Genesis 2: 18-21

The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

chosenone

Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:18:56
Quote from: chosenone on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:15:44
Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:06:45
Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Well if you are serious I certainly hope that you do not have a wife!  Considering all of the scripture about marriage and how husbands and wives are to treat and guide each other, your view is certainly twisted.  As far as Adam and Eve goes God made Eve not to be Adam's servant but to be his companion (there was no laundry in the garden!), he took her from Adam's side not his feet so he could step all over her!

Genesis 2: 18-21

The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

cristals mama

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Quote from: chosenone on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:30:50
Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:18:56
Quote from: chosenone on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:15:44
Quote from: cristals mama on Tue Sep 16, 2008 - 08:06:45
Quote from: HRoberson on Mon Sep 15, 2008 - 23:00:19
No, Jesus does not understand marriage. This is clearly seen from the beginning when God made a single person to live in the garden. It is seen in Paul's writing when we read it is good for man to not be married. God, being God, understands that we should be able to live by ourselves as men rather than being tied down and responsible to a female.

That female was made to be a servant to man, a helpmate to get the stuff done while the man watched football. But that is as far as the relationship was meant to go - the woman was given to serve man.

But it soon became apparent to God that those men with good helpmates, those that would do laundry and cook well, would be stolen from others. And so God decided that each man would have his own helpmate to do only his laundry and cooking.

It was never intended that the concept of "marriage" would become so ingrained in human society that we would wonder if God understood it. Clearly we have taken the arrangement far beyond what God intended, as is clear throughout the OT.

Well if you are serious I certainly hope that you do not have a wife!  Considering all of the scripture about marriage and how husbands and wives are to treat and guide each other, your view is certainly twisted.  As far as Adam and Eve goes God made Eve not to be Adam's servant but to be his companion (there was no laundry in the garden!), he took her from Adam's side not his feet so he could step all over her!

Genesis 2: 18-21

The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

Hehealedme

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