Exodus

[Johnb]

Hastings had free movies for memorial day and one of the ones we picked up was exodus .  It was really bad.  The acting was so so but Exodus was completely rewritten.  The only resemblance to the original was the guys name was Moses.   

[Alan]

I rather enjoyed it but I did not go with the expectations of seeing an accurate biblical account, I could stay home and save the $50 bucks to do that 

[Texas Conservative]

Hastings had free movies for memorial day and one of the ones we picked up was exodus .  It was really bad.  The acting was so so but Exodus was completely rewritten.  The only resemblance to the original was the guys name was Moses.   

Watch Noah.  Then you will think Exodus is a masterpiece.  I honestly didn't think it was that bad.  But I wasn't expecting it to be true to the text, etc.

[Johnb]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

[Buster D Body Crab]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

And the producer dedicated the movie to his departed brother at the end.
I was really disappointed. I'd read Bale stating that Moses was schizophrenic, etc... Until I watched the DVD I'd no idea he was commenting on how the writer(s) of this movie portrayed Moses from the beginning of his revelation at the site of the burning bush.

Hollywood Bible mockery, no surprise. But dedicating this to one's brother? Makes me wonder if Ridley Scott's brother was atheist and hated the Judeo-Christian faith. Because this Moses was portrayed as a total delusional head case. Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

[Jd34]

Yeah , those poor people exoding - I wonder what was on their minds ? God maybe? Or Moses?

[Alan]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

You're opinion, I enjoyed it. 3D 

[Jd34]

Lol .. how do we know that actually happened? cause my grand pappy told me so and there is a bible to "prove" it?

Lol

[Jd34]

Allow god to speak to you- the only real answers you will get.

[Johnb]

Jd34  God has spoken to us all through the Bible.  If you don't believe the written word then it is not God speaking to you.   

Alan I understand you enjoyed it as a movie.  Just think if you are doing a bible story to draw believers to the movies it ought to resemble the original.  Just a difference of opinion,

[Buster D Body Crab]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

You're opinion, I enjoyed it. 3D 

Well yes Alan, we're all giving our opinion here aren't we?

For me, the writers claiming, and even having Moses' wife saying, that he was hallucinating the whole encounter with God thing because he took a hit on the back of the head while trying to retrieve three lost sheep on the mountain, and therefore his entire pursuit through Exodus as the result of brain damage, is offensive.
The exodus was pursued by a mentally ill Jew.     


I would have imagined it would offend the Jews as well considering this slur pertains to the mental health of one of the greatest patriarchs in their history.

The Big Screen Gets Biblical, Again
A rabbi's take on Ridley Scott's new blockbuster, Exodus: Gods and Kings
By Simcha Weinstein|December 8, 2014

[Alan]

  Just think if you are doing a bible story to draw believers to the movies it ought to resemble the original.

That's just it, I doubt the intent of the franchise was to draw unbelievers to God but rather to portray a piece of history for it's viewers. Add dramatic effect and ad-libs of scripture, no big surprise as Hollywood does this with every "based on true events" feature, from tear jerkers to WWII movies.

[Alan]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

You're opinion, I enjoyed it. 3D 

Well yes Alan, we're all giving our opinion here aren't we?

Yes, but some tend to go a bit over the top with "opinion" 

[Buster D Body Crab]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

You're opinion, I enjoyed it. 3D 

Well yes Alan, we're all giving our opinion here aren't we?

Yes, but some tend to go a bit over the top with "opinion" 

That's opinion too.   
Thank God we don't need permission to have one.

[Texas Conservative]

I did not expect it to be 100 percent accurate but if you are doing a bible story it ought to have some resemblance to the actual story kind of like the original 10 Commandments movie.

Terribly wrong that it made a dime at the box office.

You're opinion, I enjoyed it. 3D 

Well yes Alan, we're all giving our opinion here aren't we?

For me, the writers claiming, and even having Moses' wife saying, that he was hallucinating the whole encounter with God thing because he took a hit on the back of the head while trying to retrieve three lost sheep on the mountain, and therefore his entire pursuit through Exodus as the result of brain damage, is offensive.
The exodus was pursued by a mentally ill Jew.     


I would have imagined it would offend the Jews as well considering this slur pertains to the mental health of one of the greatest patriarchs in their history.

The Big Screen Gets Biblical, Again
A rabbi's take on Ridley Scott's new blockbuster, Exodus: Gods and Kings
By Simcha Weinstein|December 8, 2014

There was a prophetess who got hit on the head with a rock and had "visions from God." 

[Johnb]

Perhaps the screen writer and director were hit on the head with a rock.

[k-pappy]

The problem with "it was a good movie if you disregard the fact it ignored the Bible" approach is you are still giving money to film studios who think they can have it both ways.  They can pretend they are making a Biblical film, even though it does not resemble anything Biblical.  When Christians support these movies, they are encouraging the filmmakers to make more of them.  So what we have is Hollywood putting out movie after movie claiming and marketing them as "Biblical Epics" when they are no such thing. 

Personally, I think Christians should ignore movies that ignore the Bible (when they claim to be Biblical - not every movie, please don't twist my words).  Biblical Epics are marketed towards Christians, so if Christians ignore the ones that ignore the Bible, then those types of movies will no longer be made.  Hollywood will have two choices:  1) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and make Biblical Epics that actually resemble the stories in the Bible...or 2) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and go back to making regular movies.  Frankly, both options are preferable to what they are putting out now.

[Alan]

That's a fair analysis Bond, but I would be most interested to see demographics surrounding box office sales for Christian and secular viewers; who contributed the most to this franchise and would the absence of Christian viewers have any effect on future franchise considerations.


OTOH, I've not really seen any claims that said Exodus was to be an accurate depiction of the Bible narrative so it's a choice for Christians to go or not go. We should be able to sift through the hype to know if the movie of interest is one that will be satisfying or offending such as Noah. I also liked God's Not Dead, despite all the stereotypes.

[Buster D Body Crab]

That's a fair analysis Bond, but I would be most interested to see demographics surrounding box office sales for Christian and secular viewers; who contributed the most to this franchise and would the absence of Christian viewers have any effect on future franchise considerations.


OTOH, I've not really seen any claims that said Exodus was to be an accurate depiction of the Bible narrative so it's a choice for Christians to go or not go. We should be able to sift through the hype to know if the movie of interest is one that will be satisfying or offending such as Noah. I also liked God's Not Dead, despite all the stereotypes.

I don't know how the box office tabulators could ascertain the Christian demographic from that of the secular. It's not like people have to identify their belief system when they purchase a ticket.

I think it's a presumed, though obviously ignorant given what Hollywood has produced in the matter of Christian genre, that there would be at least a semblance of respect for Christians and the scriptural narratives surrounding the particular patriarch a studio is going to portray on screen.

Noah was a real shame. Exodus was insulting on every level. Again, a personal opinion.

2014 was said to be the year of the Bible for Hollywood. 2015 appears to be so too. I hope something is palatable.

More Bible Epics for 2015

[Buster D Body Crab]

Perhaps the screen writer and director were hit on the head with a rock.

Could be. And maybe after the producer was hit first and decided to introduce them to the concussion club.

That would explain it all rather well.

[Texas Conservative]

The problem with "it was a good movie if you disregard the fact it ignored the Bible" approach is you are still giving money to film studios who think they can have it both ways.  They can pretend they are making a Biblical film, even though it does not resemble anything Biblical.  When Christians support these movies, they are encouraging the filmmakers to make more of them.  So what we have is Hollywood putting out movie after movie claiming and marketing them as "Biblical Epics" when they are no such thing. 

Personally, I think Christians should ignore movies that ignore the Bible (when they claim to be Biblical - not every movie, please don't twist my words).  Biblical Epics are marketed towards Christians, so if Christians ignore the ones that ignore the Bible, then those types of movies will no longer be made.  Hollywood will have two choices:  1) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and make Biblical Epics that actually resemble the stories in the Bible...or 2) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and go back to making regular movies.  Frankly, both options are preferable to what they are putting out now.

If you pay money to watch any film, likely you are contributing money to someone whose agenda is contrary to Christianity.

[Buster D Body Crab]

How does the Christian know the movies ignore the Bible? Christian news movie critics are able to report along those lines I imagine.

I got the Noah DVD from Redbox using a credit so was a freebie as I recall.
Exodus was borrowed from the library.

I own the DVD, "The Passion of the Christ".  Thus far that's an exception to what's being marketed now as religious Bible genre films.

It's a shame that Hollywood looks more like its committed to entertaining an audience rather than respecting religious tradition, the faithful, and reaching an audience.

But it's Hollywood. That which produced, "American Beauty" and "Tadpole". So really, upon reflection, how can I be all that surprised when bad movies on the Bible come out of a pit that produces trash like that?

Hopefully Christian screenwriters will go Indy in future and have a chance at bringing to big screen what is untarnished by the elements at work in Hollywood. 

The problem with "it was a good movie if you disregard the fact it ignored the Bible" approach is you are still giving money to film studios who think they can have it both ways.  They can pretend they are making a Biblical film, even though it does not resemble anything Biblical.  When Christians support these movies, they are encouraging the filmmakers to make more of them.  So what we have is Hollywood putting out movie after movie claiming and marketing them as "Biblical Epics" when they are no such thing. 

Personally, I think Christians should ignore movies that ignore the Bible (when they claim to be Biblical - not every movie, please don't twist my words).  Biblical Epics are marketed towards Christians, so if Christians ignore the ones that ignore the Bible, then those types of movies will no longer be made.  Hollywood will have two choices:  1) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and make Biblical Epics that actually resemble the stories in the Bible...or 2) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and go back to making regular movies.  Frankly, both options are preferable to what they are putting out now.

[Alan]

The problem with "it was a good movie if you disregard the fact it ignored the Bible" approach is you are still giving money to film studios who think they can have it both ways.  They can pretend they are making a Biblical film, even though it does not resemble anything Biblical.  When Christians support these movies, they are encouraging the filmmakers to make more of them.  So what we have is Hollywood putting out movie after movie claiming and marketing them as "Biblical Epics" when they are no such thing. 

Personally, I think Christians should ignore movies that ignore the Bible (when they claim to be Biblical - not every movie, please don't twist my words).  Biblical Epics are marketed towards Christians, so if Christians ignore the ones that ignore the Bible, then those types of movies will no longer be made.  Hollywood will have two choices:  1) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and make Biblical Epics that actually resemble the stories in the Bible...or 2) Stop making "Biblical Epics" that do not resemble anything in the Bible and go back to making regular movies.  Frankly, both options are preferable to what they are putting out now.

If you pay money to watch any film, likely you are contributing money to someone whose agenda is contrary to Christianity.

Exactly, the interests of Hollywood have zilch to do with those of Christianity. We need to make smart choices as to the things we watch and glean from. I would never consider a movie like 50 shades of gray, but I do enjoy Star Trek movies; is that bad also considering the content of aliens, etc?

[Link]

I'd rate Exodus lower than Noah for Biblical accuracy.  The reason is they had some little kid playing God, which I found sacriligous, to try to show God like that, and as a kid.  They made it out to where Moses might have just been crazy with a head injury and that he might have gotten lucky about the Red Sea crossing.  It reminded me of those stupid liberal interpretations where liberals have such a problem with miracles, that they want God to have led the Israelites would through natural phenomenon.  Noah seemed crazy in his movie, too. 

I do expect Biblical accuracy from Hollywood, but they really went far away from the story on this one.  Also, taking away the fact that Moses specifically predicted each plague in real life detracts majorly from the story. 

I don't see any reason to think that Moses grew up not knowing he was Hebrew.  The court could have known it and the Pharaoh made an exception for him for his daughter's sake.  At some point, he chose not to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter, choosing to endure with the people of God. 

They also changed the Moses murder story, where he kills couple of guards instead of someone beating a Hebrew slave.

[Buster D Body Crab]

I'd rate Exodus lower than Noah for Biblical accuracy.  The reason is they had some little kid playing God, which I found sacriligous, to try to show God like that, and as a kid.  They made it out to where Moses might have just been crazy with a head injury and that he might have gotten lucky about the Red Sea crossing.  It reminded me of those stupid liberal interpretations where liberals have such a problem with miracles, that they want God to have led the Israelites would through natural phenomenon.  Noah seemed crazy in his movie, too. 

I do expect Biblical accuracy from Hollywood, but they really went far away from the story on this one.  Also, taking away the fact that Moses specifically predicted each plague in real life detracts majorly from the story. 

I don't see any reason to think that Moses grew up not knowing he was Hebrew.  The court could have known it and the Pharaoh made an exception for him for his daughter's sake.  At some point, he chose not to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter, choosing to endure with the people of God. 

They also changed the Moses murder story, where he kills couple of guards instead of someone beating a Hebrew slave.

I was thinking they depicted God as a child to coincide with the scriptures wherein Jesus said one must be like a child to enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Yes, they certainly kept away from the scriptures in many respects.Portraying Moses as a nut case acting as a schizophrenic who's mental illness just happened to help him free the Israelites from Egyptian slavery, while letting the viewer infer that is why the Israelites then wandered in the desert for 40 years, remembering the last time we see Moses seeing "God" outside his abode and as a much older man, is  just Hollywood being Hollywood.
After all, can they respect the Christian religion? With all the garbage they put out over all? 

[Texas Conservative]

I'd rate Exodus lower than Noah for Biblical accuracy.  The reason is they had some little kid playing God, which I found sacriligous, to try to show God like that, and as a kid.  They made it out to where Moses might have just been crazy with a head injury and that he might have gotten lucky about the Red Sea crossing.  It reminded me of those stupid liberal interpretations where liberals have such a problem with miracles, that they want God to have led the Israelites would through natural phenomenon.  Noah seemed crazy in his movie, too. 

I do expect Biblical accuracy from Hollywood, but they really went far away from the story on this one.  Also, taking away the fact that Moses specifically predicted each plague in real life detracts majorly from the story. 

I don't see any reason to think that Moses grew up not knowing he was Hebrew.  The court could have known it and the Pharaoh made an exception for him for his daughter's sake.  At some point, he chose not to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter, choosing to endure with the people of God. 

They also changed the Moses murder story, where he kills couple of guards instead of someone beating a Hebrew slave.

Noah had fallen angels as rock monsters.  Noah tried to kill his family because humans were evil and the environment was good.  One of the kids didn't have a wife.  I think Noah was far less accurate.

[Link]

Texas Conservative, Noah didn't have a human depict God or mess up the call of Moses and the sending out of the nation of Israel.

Noah was totally messed up, too.  The Watchers was apparently from the book of Enoch, but I'm pretty sure they made up the rock market part.  There were also only 8 people on the ark.  The environmentalist theme was sickening.  What kind of sick weirdo would want to save plants and animals, but kill their own grandchild to keep the human population from reproducing? 

Hollywood made both characters come off as potentially crazy. 

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

  Just think if you are doing a bible story to draw believers to the movies it ought to resemble the original.

That's just it, I doubt the intent of the franchise was to draw unbelievers to God but rather to portray a piece of history for it's viewers.

I would guess that the intent was to make lots of money by stirring up controversy.

Jarrod

[Spirit Filled]

Noah was pathetic. Rock monsters helped him build the ark? Where's that in scripture.

But Moses was pathetic. Moses was insane! And all the Jews that were liberated were following a psychopath to freedom. How could anyone see that in scripture? Where's that said in Exodus? Moses had brain damage and hallucinated his way toward the Red sea and the promised land.

I did see that dedication at the end. The producer of this dog has a really bad history with his wives. I venture to guess he really didn't like his brother much either to dedicate a sacrilegious piece of fiction to his memory and in Moses' name.