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The Middle of the Earth in The Center like a Navel

Started by Vision, Sun Dec 21, 2014 - 22:14:09

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Vision

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Where did the Israelites go in going to Jerusalem?

Concerning The book of Jubilees chap 8 and 9. The book is considered not canon in relation to Christianity but does it bear any weight on geographical location?

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The Earth may be synonymous with The World. The center of the world could be anywhere in relation to time and focal point. But if Shem's portion was very large and in the middle of the earth, and mount Zion is the center of the earth like a navel, where was Jerusalem if the center/middle of the earth was meant literarily  ?

Interesting map:

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Concerning Ham's portion that is not in the middle of the Earth:

>the first portion came for Cush to the east.........to the East of what map or center? 

>And to the west of Cush for Mizraim(Egypt),

>And to the west of Mizraim for Phut(Libya)

>And to the west, west of Phut unto the seas is for Canaan

These four location seems to line up where a portion of Cush lies in the east that is next to Egypt. So if Cush is East, directly next to Egypt why would center be further East of Egypt for the City of David in locating Jerusalem ?

>We know Egypt is not in the middle/center area of the earth because that is for Shem.

>We know on a map with north at the top, any portion directly to the right of Egypt is East.

>We know that possibly Phut next to Egypt which is Libya is considered west and if not then Canaan next to Phut till it reach the sea is   definitely west.

>So Egypt and or Phut is probably in the middle in-between East and West but not Center/Middle like a Navel of the Earth.

>So in the middle somewhere below or South of Egypt is the Mountain like a navel in the center of the Earth.

>We know Mount Sanai is off to the right of Egypt but below making it East but is somewhere in the Middle area of the Earth because its for Shem.

>Mount Zion would need to be left of Mount Sanai to be Center like a Navel of the Earth on a map where north pole is at the top.

There are only 2 mountains ranges to the left of mount Sanai and south of Egypt and Phut that seems to be in-between East and West and could be considered center

>The lunar mountains or the mountains of the moon(inline with Phut) and Mount Kenya(inline with Egypt)

>The mountains of the Moon has a great history in being the source of the Nile and is not Mount Zion.

>This Leaves Mount Kenya that is inline with Egypt in between East and West and below it possibly making it center like a navel of the Earth. 

>This analysis also puts Eden in the middle of the Earth below Egypt where it is called the cradle somewhere in Ethiopia. 

Interestingly Mount Kenya straddles the equator on the largest land mas of the Earth and has a river Tana flowing from it that is said to be called River Sion by locals 

The children of Israel as indicated was promised the land of Canaan. The land of Canaan falls under the land of Ham. Why would Mount Zion fall in the land of Canaan of Ham and not Shem?. However, it does appear that for whatever reason the first portion of Shem's land was allotted out to Ham and his children but that section seems more to be in the East going towards India rather than the middle in the center and would not have Mount Zion as a navel of the Earth.



Vision

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chap 9:4 And for Arpachshad came forth the third portion, all the land of the region of the Chaldees to the east of the Euphrates, bordering on the Red Sea, and all the waters of the desert close to the tongue of the sea which looks towards Egypt, all the land of Lebanon and Sanir and 'Amana to the border of the Euphrates.

The current Euphrates is placed flowing through Iraq. There is no East of any river in Iraq going to the Red Sea. East of Euphrates going to the Red Sea placed the River in Africa on the left side of the Red Sea with north at top consistent with Shem's portion South of Egypt where the 4 rivers would be flowing through the garden of Eden.

AlephBet

#2
Where was the fruit we were not supposed to touch?  The middle of the garden.  What is the point of baptism?  Rising to new life (Evolution).  From the template we can observe in nature, the answer to the question comes clear.

E in Latin means 'out of'.  Volution means revolving around a center.  We Evolve (rise) to the Heavens.  We are the dew and rain.  A seed is the essence of what sprouts up around it.  Dew is distilled when the sun rises.  The solar cycle is water by comparison to the Hydrogen in the water.  All things circulate.  The wind blows. 

Isaiah 26

19 But your dead will live, Lord;
    their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
    wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
    the earth will give birth to her dead.

You must be born again.  Baptism is involution into the whirlwind (Sin).  Reap the whirlwind or emerge from it.  To get out, rise with the light. 




DaveW

Please note that it was the Brittish (who were infulenced by their Nordic conquerers) who decided to put North at the top of the map.  In the ancient near east it was EAST that was at the top of the maps.

AlephBet

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Quote from: DaveW on Mon Mar 02, 2015 - 05:59:42
Please note that it was the Brittish (who were infulenced by their Nordic conquerers) who decided to put North at the top of the map.  In the ancient near east it was EAST that was at the top of the maps.

From a Hebrew perspective, all four cardinal directions point to the two hidden directions of past and future.  Direction is orthogonal in a linear matrix. 

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A dot is the end of 1D.  At right angles (orthogonal), we have a 1D line made of right angle dots. 

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At right angles to the 1D line, we have a 2D plane made of lines at right angles. 

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At right angles to the plane is the cube.  A 3D object is the end of spatial dimension.  We now enter temporal dimension.  At right angles to the 3D object, there are two hidden dimensions.  Past and future.  Look down a dimension to see this.

In 2D, there are two hidden dimensions above and below, but the plain itself only sees forward, backward, right and left.  Up and down require the implied directions not present in the dimension itself.  This is why time is the hidden Aleph Tav, or beginning and end. 



As with all truth hidden at right angles, we can see truth from the mirror, but not apart from the water (baptism) into the lower dimensions (waters below). 



The word Truth is Emet, or Aleph Mem Tav.  The beast is pulled through the water (soil actually) to the cross. The cross is the Hebrew Tav, or plowman's mark.  It marked the furrow to be plowed as the ox pulled the plow.  The seed then enters the furrow.  Literally, the mark to hit is the cross.  We are then marked with the STRONG WATER MARK.  In Hebrew, sin is chet, or missing the mark. 

The middle of the garden was the fruit to avoid.  Because of it, we were clothed in animal skin.  What were we clothed in before the fall?

In Genesis 2, Adam and Eve were naked (Arum).  Satan was made by the Lord in Genesis 3:1 to be cunning (Arummim).  The wordplay here tells you the job of Satan as conscience / accuser of mankind.  He was made by Yahweh for a purpose.  We are to overcome the beast clothing for the Spirit clothing.  Holiness requires toil.

Fruit is delicious, but comes at a price.  God knew we would take it.  It was for a purpose. 

Circumcision hurts.  Our sin must be cut away from the seed.  Yeast makes bread rise.  It's a garden.  We are planted in the host body by the Lord of Hosts.  Spirits possess hosts.  We are being turned from past (sin) to future (hope).  The Cross faces the future furrow we plow.  Look up the word Aharit.  Future is the turning from past, just as the past is in front (before) that you face.  Past is what is seen.  Forgiveness faces the other direction.  Aharit. 





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