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EXTREME UNCTION

Started by KiwiChristian, Tue Apr 10, 2018 - 03:51:45

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KiwiChristian

EXTREME UNCTION.



This sacrament states that "At the end of life, sin can be totally undone and man is prepared for immediate entrance into everlasting glory." This idea is found NOWHERE in the Bible.

This will not get a dying person into heaven. His only hope is to receive Jesus Christ as his own Saviour, trusting Christ's blood sacrifice on the cross as the full payment for all his sin.

Mark 6:13 is the Catholic defense for this error, yet this verse says nothing about dying people, but only about demonised and sick people being healed. When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, his personal physician was dismissed for telling of his frightful and terrifying fear of death and hell.


Question: Since the Pope isn't sure of heaven, how can he help Catholics get to heaven?

Answer: Keeping the sacraments is a net that traps Catholics into believing that they will get to heaven by good works. The sacrament system enslaves a person's mind to the Roman Catholic church from the cradle to the grave.

Nobody was ever saved in the Bible by keeping the sacraments. Catholic children are trapped into the sacrament system around age seven or eight years old, when they have neither the knowledge of the Bible nor the maturity to test it with the Word of God.



Question: How can Catholics escape the trap of the sacraments?

Answer: By calling on Jesus Christ to be their only Savior; by basing their life on the Word of God.

Ladonia

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Quote from: KiwiChristian on Tue Apr 10, 2018 - 03:51:45
EXTREME UNCTION.



This sacrament states that "At the end of life, sin can be totally undone and man is prepared for immediate entrance into everlasting glory." This idea is found NOWHERE in the Bible.

This will not get a dying person into heaven. His only hope is to receive Jesus Christ as his own Saviour, trusting Christ's blood sacrifice on the cross as the full payment for all his sin.

Mark 6:13 is the Catholic defense for this error, yet this verse says nothing about dying people, but only about demonised and sick people being healed. When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, his personal physician was dismissed for telling of his frightful and terrifying fear of death and hell.


Question: Since the Pope isn't sure of heaven, how can he help Catholics get to heaven?

Answer: Keeping the sacraments is a net that traps Catholics into believing that they will get to heaven by good works. The sacrament system enslaves a person's mind to the Roman Catholic church from the cradle to the grave.

Nobody was ever saved in the Bible by keeping the sacraments. Catholic children are trapped into the sacrament system around age seven or eight years old, when they have neither the knowledge of the Bible nor the maturity to test it with the Word of God.



Question: How can Catholics escape the trap of the sacraments?

Answer: By calling on Jesus Christ to be their only Savior; by basing their life on the Word of God.

Oh good grief, every Catholic believes in the saving grace of Christ's blood shed for us on Calvary. We reaffirm this belief at every Mass which has as it's core, has as it's focal point, this very sacrifice. Sacraments are a series of things that are sacred actions, things which we consciously do that help us to live holy and pleasing lives to God and having a priest, most likely our Pastor, at the end of our lives beside us and praying for us is a good thing.

KiwiChristian

Quote from: Ladonia on Tue Apr 10, 2018 - 04:37:10
Oh good grief, every Catholic believes in the saving grace of Christ's blood shed for us on Calvary. We reaffirm this belief at every Mass which has as it's core, has as it's focal point, this very sacrifice. Sacraments are a series of things that are sacred actions, things which we consciously do that help us to live holy and pleasing lives to God and having a priest, most likely our Pastor, at the end of our lives beside us and praying for us is a good thing.

And how does a catholic OBTAIN that grace?

Open Heart

I don't know where the idea that the Pope doesn't believe in heaven comes from.


If you don't believe a person can on their deathbed repent and receive Jesus (extreme unction) then you indeed have a different religion than mine.  I accept the example of the thief on the cross, who confessed to Jesus and was forgiven right then and there.

KiwiChristian

Quote from: Open Heart on Sat Apr 14, 2018 - 03:52:28
I don't know where the idea that the Pope doesn't believe in heaven comes from.

I never said that. I said the pope is not sure of heaven. ie: they, as well as many catholics are sure if they are going to heaven when they die.



If you don't believe a person can on their deathbed repent and receive Jesus (extreme unction) then you indeed have a different religion than mine.  I accept the example of the thief on the cross, who confessed to Jesus and was forgiven right then and there.

This is NOT what "extreme unction" is. repenting and receiving Jesus is NOT "extreme unction".

I have just been looking through the ceremony and cannot find anywhere where the dying person has to accept and receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.


winsome

Quote from: KiwiChristian on Tue Apr 10, 2018 - 03:51:45
EXTREME UNCTION.



This sacrament states that "At the end of life, sin can be totally undone and man is prepared for immediate entrance into everlasting glory." This idea is found NOWHERE in the Bible.

This will not get a dying person into heaven. His only hope is to receive Jesus Christ as his own Saviour, trusting Christ's blood sacrifice on the cross as the full payment for all his sin.

Mark 6:13 is the Catholic defense for this error, yet this verse says nothing about dying people, but only about demonised and sick people being healed. When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, his personal physician was dismissed for telling of his frightful and terrifying fear of death and hell.


Question: Since the Pope isn't sure of heaven, how can he help Catholics get to heaven?

Answer: Keeping the sacraments is a net that traps Catholics into believing that they will get to heaven by good works. The sacrament system enslaves a person's mind to the Roman Catholic church from the cradle to the grave.

Nobody was ever saved in the Bible by keeping the sacraments. Catholic children are trapped into the sacrament system around age seven or eight years old, when they have neither the knowledge of the Bible nor the maturity to test it with the Word of God.



Question: How can Catholics escape the trap of the sacraments?

Answer: By calling on Jesus Christ to be their only Savior; by basing their life on the Word of God.

Basically, like most of your OPs in this forum this is a straw man because it misrepresents Catholic teaching.

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