World Series Ugliness

[Jaime]

Nick, the only difference is that baseball sucks. Mainly because the inaction is strung together like a never ending rope braided together with endless strands of scratching, spitting and foul balls. If it wasn't for sunflower seeds baseball would be totally pointless. However most times the ijits with the flat billed caps do offer some comic relief, better if their ears are stuffed into the headband.

[Rella]

Jaime,

As far as actual action, baseball isn't all that much different from football.  https://curiosity.com/topics/the-average-nfl-game-has-only-11-minutes-of-action-curiosity/

Yes... I am having a real belly laugh, tears in the eye moment in this thread.

But I shall keep mum about why. Just use your imaginations.

[Rella]

I agree Rella, the crux of the matter is sexual promiscuity. Sex without consequences is NOT a constitutional right.

As the only member here, or at least woman, who has never been married, ( That I know of).... ... and thinking over my life.

I was at the start of the openness of such matters back then.I did every thing in my power to keep that from happening, and NO I was not popular. But I knew, even in my less then "sophisticated" mind if I ever had gotten pregnant... I wouldnot have needed an abortion ( which were mostly back alley then) because my dad would have put me 6 feet under. That is a fact.

Fear is a great deterrent to a lot.

But fast forward to late 70s and I actually had a doctor tell me, after asking why I was not active... and my reply that pregnancy was a fear... that it could easily be taken care of and would not be called an abortion.

NO... I did not listen to him.

10 years after that I had a girl friend who just casually told me she had one.She got with the boy next door and she knew she could not tell "her" dad.

So after all the growing pains of fending you guys.  NOT YOU but guys in general , off. I reached the ripe age of not needing to think of pregnancy problems and I met 2 very nich "Christian" men who were
interested in me.

But when I told each that I would not before that walk down the aisle, the one told me he was only thinking of living together.... hmmmmm 

And the other said..." Not at this stage of the game. Waiting is not an option." 

No matter. I am finally comfortable in my own skin and on my own.

BUT it is not going to change, and to be truthful I do worry about those and where their eternities are going to be when one specifically claimed she was certain she was saved, but "God has too much to worry about to worry about sex." 

[mommydi]

... it can be high inducing and additive drug for some people, causing them to do things their consciences would normally forbid.

Please be specific instead of vague. Examples, please.

That's why the apostle lists it alongside some of the worst acts of the sinful nature.

Please be specific instead of vague. Scripture reference, please.


BTW, Democrats have more party loyalty than Republicans.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/29/why-do-people-belong-to-a-party-negative-views-of-the-opposing-party-are-a-major-factor/

So "country over party" is more fitting for Republicans than Dems. Rather anecdotal, but I've always noticed that with my own family and close circle of friends. The most rabid party loyalists were Dems. I had Democratic family members who flew into a rage if anything negative was ever said about the Democratic Party. OTOH, I've never known a Republican who flew into a rage over a negative comment about their party.

[Jaime]

You ain't lying Mommydi when you say Dems are way more loyal to party than GOP-ers. Dems invented the term lock step. Republicans can't come to any agreement when they are in CONTROL. Too many McCain and Romney types.

[The Barbarian]

We do need less approval of promiscuity.  This is why there's good news out there...

Last week, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released a report showing a significant decline in teen sexual activity between 2005 and 2015. The report obtained data on the sexual conduct of teens by analyzing 29 separate state-level Youth Risk Behavior Surveys. Overall, the percentage of teenagers that reported ever having engaged in sexual intercourse declined from 46.8 percent to 41.2 percent over this ten-year time period.

The study finds declines in teen sexual activity across racial groups, grade levels, and regions. Interestingly, the declines in teen sexual activity were the largest among blacks and Hispanics. Between 2005 and 2015, the percentage of black and Hispanic teenagers who had ever engaged in sexual intercourse fell by over 19 percentage points and 8 percentage points, respectively. Teenagers in ninth and tenth grades reported larger decreases in sexual activity than teens in higher grade levels.
Comments   

This new study adds to an existing body of research indicating that there have been consistent declines in teen sexual activity since the early 1990s. In fact, the new data suggest that the decline in teen sexual activity between 2005 and 2015 was actually larger than the decline that occurred between 1995 and 2005. Furthermore, data from the National Survey of Family Growth show a consistent long-term decline, beginning in 1988, in the percentage of teens who reported ever having had sex.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/teen-sexual-activity-decline/

There has also been a consistent drop in crime over the same period.    Probably because both trends  are caused by a third factor.

[The Barbarian]

You ain't lying Mommydi when you say Dems are way more loyal to party than GOP-ers.

I only saw pieces of of the democrat debates, but what I saw doesn't show anything like a united party.   As Will Rogers said "I'm not a member of an organized political party.   I'm a democrat."

That being said, partisan divide is now worse than I've ever seen it before, and while democrats and republicans might fight with each other, they seem to lock-step perfectly outside of their parties.

[Jaime]

Gopers have too many Romney and McCain types to be in lock step on anything or have any party unity. There are a LOT more RINOS that believe and vote with Dems than the Dems have voting with the GOPers. This is why I think the Senate vote on impeachment will be much closer than it ought to be or deserves to be. The days of the blue dog Democrats voting with conservative Republicans are OVER. They live in Lock Step, USA.

As to the teen sexual survey, I say BS. What motivation would they have to tell the truth one way or the other. I was a teen once and I can think of nothing more delicious then that to fib to some pin headed survey taker especially on sex!

And as to the divide in this country, i would say Obama was the Divider in Chief especially on everything race, ie, promoting the false narative of hands up don't shoot for Furgeson Missouri and several other high profile cases. Not to mention motivating cop killing as in the case of 5 cops killed in Dallas. Whatever anyone says about Obama, I thank him for motivating the country to vote Trump in. Not something he intended to do I'm sure.

https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-legacy-weaker-and-more-divided-america

[Jaime]

Plus Barb debates will bring out nastiness even within parties,  but let Trump be the topic and they will line up like a formation of killer geese after a June bug feast! Even using identical talking points and verbiage. From my perspective, the Dems are incredibly loyal because they understand that unity is how you achieve power politically. The GOPers are way too busy trying to one up the next guy in the traitorous fashion of McCain in overturning the repeal of Obamacare a few years ago. AND he himself spoke of the need to repeal Obamacare, but definitely not at the expense of a win for a Republican President. This is why I have come to despise The Establishment Republicans. They don't know how to win, and they think their place is better served as a loyal opposition party. Trump upset that and I am forever thankful! The more upset he makes the Establishment of either party, the louder I will cheer.

[The Barbarian]

Plus Barb debates will bring out nastiness even within parties,  but let Trump be the topic and they will line up like a formation of killer geese after a June bug feast!

And those were republicans, many of them. 

"I want to talk to the Trump supporters for a moment. I don't know who you are, and I don't know why you like this guy," he began. "I think what you like about him is he appears to be strong and the rest of us are weak. He's a very successful businessman and he's going to make everything great."

"He's a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot," Graham continued. "He doesn't represent my party. He doesn't represents the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. ... He's the ISIL man of the year."

That was Lindsey Graham in 2015.   Now that about 70 percent of the republicans in his state are behind Trump, he quickly turned his coat, and is now one of Trump's big cheerleaders.   

Now, that's party unity.

In the long run, it seems the republicans will be wishing that Trump ran as a democrat.

[Jaime]

Lindsey Graham continues to be an enigma. He can be Trump's worst enemy when it appears the Left "Has him", yet when Trump overcomes their repeated lies, Lindsey bristles like a Boston terrier defending his kibble! Of course his duplicidous tendencies comes naturally as an original McCain-ite. Just listen to the news and listen to Lindsey. You can tell which way the wind is blowing at any given time. The McCain genes run deep with him. Trump should exercise caution. He is Establishment all the way, except unlike Romney, he recognizes when Trump is winning with the voters. But watch out if it looks like trouble for Trump, he can be as mouthy as Megan McCain was against Donald Jr on the View.

[Texas Conservative]

Since what is left of the Democratic Party is baby killers and socialists, we are in deep Doo Doo in the long run regardless of Trump.

[Jaime]

The GOP loses the Presidency and the Senate, deep Do Do will be rampant.

I just heard a report that the horse toothed nincompoop AOC has been quoted to say that perhaps people shouldn't have children  because of Climate Change. If that would result in fewer Democrats, I am FOR potential Democrat parents abstaining from having kids (future Dems).

[The Barbarian]

Since what is left of the Democratic Party is baby killers and socialists, we are in deep Doo Doo in the long run regardless of Trump.

For a time, you might be right.   But I expect the republican party will have to hit bottom before it reforms itself and becomes a rational alternative to leftist policies again.

[Jaime]

Yeah, the Establishment GOP has a long way to go to get to Trump's proper alternatives to the Left's stupidity. The GOP will emerge from where they are when they embrace Trump's policies. In the meantime Trump's brash brawler personality is necessary  to combat the Establishment GOP, not just the Radical Dems and their cohorts in the media. There IS some hope for the GOP. The country with the Dems in charge, NO. Trump prevailed in 2016, BECAUSE the GOP already hit bottom, in my mind and millions of other voters.

The Dems took the loss of Hillary Clinton and proceeded to lose their collective mind as evidenced by the communist candidates now running.

[4WD]

For a time, you might be right.   But I expect the republican party will have to hit bottom before it reforms itself and becomes a rational alternative to leftist policies again.

It is not a matter of the Republican party reforming itself.  It is about what the Leftists, mostly Democrats, have done already.  They have captured the MSM, the entertainment industry, the educational industry and they have a huge hold already on the medical industry.  Through the educational system, they are indoctrinating rather than educating the children.  That indoctrination is being complemented by the MSM and the entertainment industry.  Therefore what is being created is an existing and upcoming population that is ignorant to the ravages produced by Leftism, i.e., Socialism, Communism, Naziism, and Fascism, throughout the twentieth century and continues even today.

That is evident in the relative acceptance of positions being proposed by nearly all of the contenders for the Democrat nomination for the 2020 elections.  Every single Democrat contender is pushing for an extreme hard Left direction of the country.  No matter who wins the 2020 elections, the national direction is all but set. And the result is going to be disastrous, not just of the U.S., but for the world. There is almost nothing that will stop the headlong rush to destruction.  Because following almost immediately on a U.S. economic collapse will be a U.S. military collapse.  And that will effectively shut down the U.S. as a global leader in much of anything.  We are only about 325 million population in a world of 7.5 billion population which is less than 5%. The U.S. will become little more than just another third world country unable to even feed itself.

I admit that is a very bleak view of things, but I really see nothing that can turn the situation around.   It has already gone to far to be stopped.  We are even now existing largely on printed money. That can end only in massive inflation.  Add to that the millions who are going to be retiring and will be depending on pensions promised that have no way of being covered and it only gets worse.

[Jaime]

Absolutely 4WD. Instead of these Leftist morons being marginalized by the brain trust in the Democrat party they are being exalted, and other "reasonable" Americans are poo pooing The one who has the answers, Donald Trump. And no I am not worshipful of Trump, it only seems that way by the contrast offered by the Never Trumpers and the Dems and the media. Trump's opposition makes him look like a genius. Of course he isn't, but he is reasonable in his stances, where they are absolutely NOT. Which makes 2020 all but a done deal. Most Americans ARE reasonable, FOR NOW.

[4WD]

If Trump gets elected in 2020, it could slow the onrush of Leftism a little bit, but it cannot stop it. It will be effectively voted in by the younger and continuing generations.

[Jaime]

AND ratified by the complicit and "docile" Establishment of both parties. And some here thinks the GOP has to reach bottom. It HAS and is emerging slowly, much faster if they will embrace Trump's policies. The Dems are sprinting in a snot slinging elbow throwing race to communism. One would think THEY need to emerge from their descent into uncharted territory.

[Norton]

Please be specific instead of vague. Examples, please.

Please be specific instead of vague. Scripture reference, please.


BTW, Democrats have more party loyalty than Republicans.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/29/why-do-people-belong-to-a-party-negative-views-of-the-opposing-party-are-a-major-factor/

So "country over party" is more fitting for Republicans than Dems. Rather anecdotal, but I've always noticed that with my own family and close circle of friends. The most rabid party loyalists were Dems. I had Democratic family members who flew into a rage if anything negative was ever said about the Democratic Party. OTOH, I've never known a Republican who flew into a rage over a negative comment about their party.

Examples? Whipping up hatred of Jerusalem against Christ, Roman citizens against early Christians, The Crusades,  Catholic/ Protestant 30 Years War, Civil War, Nazis against Jews, on and on. These conflicts were not so much a matter of survival, as a matter of "these people are not like us, they think and act different from us, we are the good people who speak truth, they are the bad people who speak lies"

Do people get a high from partyism? Of course they/we do. Why else do they spend hours watching MSNBC and Fox News. We enjoy getting angry when they show us what the bad people are doing and saying. Its mostly harmless to but a few.

Gal 5:10 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery.........., hatred, discord,... dissensions, factions, envy.... orgies, and the like.

I honestly couldn't say who are more partisan, Democrats or Republicans.

[Jaime]

The Dems are definitely better at doing party politics in my opinion. Very dangerous for a party that is wrong on just about everything and getting wronger by the day. At one time Democrat candidates used to make the effort to APPEAR centrist. Not anymore.