The "Third Temple" Prophecy Refuted

[robycop3]

  I agree. As I said, the events of 66-70 AD were the "days of vengeance" Jesus pronounced against that generation of Jews, making them answer for all the murders of the righteous up til that time. It was the Jewish leadership of the Jerusalem area, & its surrounding villages who openly rejected Jesus & had murdered many who had believed Him or had actually tried to live as God had commanded earlier. That's why the Jews in other areas weren't affected too much by the Roman attack.

  The expulsion of the Jews from their land by the Romans under Hadrian in 135-136 AD was actually a much-greater punishment on the Jews than the 66-70 events. Not only were many killed, but the survivors were despised & persecuted wherever they went. Christians blamed them for murdering Jesus; many other peolles hated them for bringing the wrath of the Romans upon them, & others didn't want new peopletaking up their land or using their resources. This persecution lasted for over 1800 years, & was doubtlessly their punishment for their rejection & murder of Jesus. No matter what preterists may say, the history of this persecution is plain, & it culminated in the nazi holocaust. And even today, anti-Semitism still exists outside the Moslem world, as well as within it. It's only by the power of God that the Jewish people still exist at all, let alone having a strong & growing little nation !

  The preterists are constantly making up excuses for the existence of modern Israel, from saying it's just coincidence, to saying its people aren't really Jews.  I just simply BELIEVE THE BIBLE, where it says in several places that GOD will restore both Israel & Judah.

(Now, about the rest of Israel, remember God told Jacob to say that the rulership is Judah's, but the BIRTHRIGHT IS JOSEPH'S. That birthright includes great national wealth & power. And instead of one tribe of Joseph, it's divided into Ephraim & Manasseh And Jacob eas told by God that "a nation, & a company of nations shall come from you". So, what nation & company of nations at one time controlled some 80 % of all the earth's resources. THE USA & THE BRITISH EMPIRE ! Something to think about, Sportzz Fanzz !)

  I believe the seals, trumpets, & bowls of plagues are all part of the great trib, & will be loosed upon the world very soon after the antichrist commits the AOD & implements the mark of the beast. No matter what prets say, those prophesied events have simply not happened yet, & there are no events that can be subbed for them. And all Biblical prophecy has been, or will be, fulfilled EXACTLY, TO THE LETTER, as God does not lie in the slightest.

  And partial preterism is proven wrong by the words of Jesus Himself, as He said He'd return IMMEDIATELY AFTER the great trib. And Paul wrote He wouldn't return til after the man of sin had come. So, if those events have already occurred, Jesus is long-overdue !

  Fact is - preterism is man-made & false !

[dpr]

A standing temple was there in Revelation 11.  That's why you fools can't reconcile in the internal evidence in Revelation being written well before #2 temple was destroyed.
Before AD70.

I missed this, and will reply, since it was directed at me.

The Book of Revelation was penned by Apostle John while in prison on the Isle of Patmos in the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian, which was around 96 A.D. The idea that it was written before 70 A.D. is a Preterist myth, a false attempt to change history in order to support a false doctrine of men.

[dpr]

Rev.21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

John was in the spirit. That's why you can't understand the prophecy.

But that is specifically why... those of us with The Holy Spirit can... understand what Revelation is revealing. Only those who don't have The Holy Spirit through Christ Jesus will be confused in it.

The temple shown in Rev.11:1-2 involves the time period of the latter half of the "one week" of Daniel 9:27. That is what the 42 months the Gentiles are given to tread the holy city is about, which also is the same 42 months of Rev.13 that the "dragon" is given power over ALL nations. And in that same Rev.11 chapter, when it is speaking of God's two witnesses, who are children of the day, the same time is given as 1260 days. This is very simple to understand directly from the Scriptures of God's Word without any doctrines of men touching it.

Even with the description in Rev.11:1, when John is told go measure that temple, using a reed that is as a rod, that in itself is a type of idea that appears in Ezekiel regarding those who went astray being told to go measure the temple of Ezekiel, which will be Christ's future Millennial temple He will build per Zech.6...

Ezek 43:10
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
KJV

Thus Christ in Rev.11:1-2 is showing that specific temple there is for the last days during the coming tribulation, the latter half 1260 days, which is why He connected the idea of measuring it with the 42 months reign of the "dragon" by the Gentiles treading the holy city. Those are definite endtime markers.

[Hobie]

Edit: Please remember to do your own diligent research on doctrines/prophecies that God has given us. Make sure everything lines up with what God has revealed to you. I may be wrong and do not want anyone to believe something as not %100 true, so please do your further research of your own and let God teach you.

There is no literal physical third temple that will be built.
The third temple doctrine comes from 2 Thessalonians 2:4.
"Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so
that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."

It indeed is speaking of the man of sin, the false messiah, the Antichrist.
But it is not speaking of a literal temple.

Here is commentary from Ellicott on 2 Thessalonians 2:4.
"Though the image is drawn from the Jewish temple, we may say with some confidence that
St. Paul did not expect the Antichrist as a prose fact to take his seat in that edifice.
Neither is the metaphor to be pressed into a mere synonym of "the Church" (1Corinthians 3:17).
The words, so far need not necessarily mean that the Man of Sin will make special
claims upon the Christian community as such. Rather, the whole phrase, "taking his seat in the
temple of God," is a poetical or prophetical description of usurping divine prerogatives
generally: not the prerogatives of the true God alone, but whatever prerogatives have been offered
to anything "called God." Though the prophecy might be fulfilled without any symbolical
act (e.g., of assuming any material throne), yet the spontaneousness ("himself") and the openness
("showing himself") seem so essentially parts of the prophecy as of necessity to imply that the
Man of Sin will make formal claim to occupy that central seat in men's minds and aspirations
which is acknowledged to be due to God alone. The formal making of this claim seems to be identical
with the apocalypse of the Man of Sin, the act by which he is manifested or revealed."

So what does this mean in layman's terms? It means that Antichrist is going to be revealed in
a very grandiose way, as the Lord Jesus Christ will when He comes in the clouds and every eye will see Him.
So shall the Antichrist come, everyone will see him and know of him. All those that are not the true elect
of God will be deceived by the false messiah, the Antichrist into believing that he really is the messiah, that
he really is God. In their minds, which is what the temple of God in this scripture is referring to,
the minds of men and women, in their minds the Antichrist will actually be God to them.

So there is no end time 7 year tribulation period, and there is no literal physical third temple.
What are we looking for? Were looking for the revealing of the false messiah, the Antichrist.
He will deceive many into believing that he is the messiah, that he is God.
God's true elect, those that strictly obey His word, His commandments, His will in this life, that
have made a sacrifice of their lives to devote it to God, to live for God and not themselves, these Christians
will be martyred for their faith. Very few will survive to the end of the world when the Lord returns to
be caught up in the rapture.

And it has shown itself, but many are still not seeing and discerning..