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Proof the Earth is Flat

Started by BlessedCreator, Tue Jun 16, 2020 - 14:15:53

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BlessedCreator

https://youtu.be/p6me_uCanB0

I made this video as a way to edify Christians on God's creation but even more so to bring people to the knowledge and truth of Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible (message to do that at end of video) through pulling them in with the truth of flat earth.

What do you guys think of it?
Any criticism/critique/suggestions welcome.

Thank you, Austin

Texas Conservative


Texas Conservative

I think focusing on flat earth gets in the way of leading those to Christ rather than furthering the cause.

Alan

I think it's absurd, we have abundant evidence that our solar system is a heliocentric design with orbs revolving around it's sun.

Rella

I did not watch the video.

With all we know about other planets,we know they are balls. Why wouldearth be different?

Why do they not have videos of the underside of the earth if it is flat?

How thick is earth?

And why has there not been a breach at the edge allowing the waters to fall off?

The entire idea is so insane.

RB

#5
Quote from: Alan on Tue Jun 16, 2020 - 16:40:27I think it's absurd, we have abundant evidence that our solar system is a heliocentric design with orbs revolving around it's sun.
The earth is spherical or globular: not a flat plane, but round, a hung ball in the air which Isaiah said 2700 hundred years ago that it was so!
Quote from: 2700 hundred years agoIsaiah 40:22~"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
I live in South Carolina, raised in North Carolina, both states have a coastline. I have been to the Ocean a few times over years and if I did not know Isaiah 40:22, then I WOULD still know that the earth is not flat by viewing the ocean for the FIRST TIME and every time since.  I will never forget as a young boy seeing the Atlantic Ocean for the first time. It looked like a mightly large "wall of water" from a distance and as I got closer at sea level something fascinating me as a young man~The mighty ships from a distance seem to me to be raising UP OUT OF THE WATER , which in fact we know were not~it just proved to me that the earth is a CIRCLE and is NOT flat!

You, sir, have been duped again.

Alan

Quote from: RB on Wed Jun 17, 2020 - 03:59:56
The earth is spherical or globular: not a flat plane, but round, a hung ball in the air which Isaiah said 2700 hundred years ago that it was so!


::headscratch:: Isn't that kinda what I said?

RB

Quote from: Alan on Wed Jun 17, 2020 - 09:30:45

::headscratch:: Isn't that kinda what I said?
Yes, I agreed with you just added a few more thoughts. +1 for you

Alan

Quote from: RB on Wed Jun 17, 2020 - 10:26:55
Yes, I agreed with you just added a few more thoughts. +1 for you


And +1 for you kind sir  ::smile::

BlessedCreator

The proof is in the video. If you want to believe what the governments, controlled by Satan, tell you, go ahead. There is a reason there are pentagrams on the majority of the countries flags around the world. Satan runs things in these end times (as much as God allows, to fulfill His plans as always). We have been indoctrinated by demons since our youth. To lead us away from the truth of God's creation, and ultimately salvation.

Alan

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Thu Nov 05, 2020 - 21:56:09
The proof is in the video. If you want to believe what the governments, controlled by Satan, tell you, go ahead. There is a reason there are pentagrams on the majority of the countries flags around the world. Satan runs things in these end times (as much as God allows, to fulfill His plans as always). We have been indoctrinated by demons since our youth. To lead us away from the truth of God's creation, and ultimately salvation.


Fortunately in this day and age we don't have to rely on governments to provide us with information regarding such things. It's illogical to believe the earth is anything but a sphere, the same as the other planets and their satellites in this solar system and the many other billions of systems across this galaxy. It's a universal design.


One flight at 30,000 ft fully reveals the curvature of the earth, how anyone can dismiss that observation as "manipulative" is pure lunacy.   

RB

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Thu Nov 05, 2020 - 21:56:09
The proof is in the video. If you want to believe what the governments, controlled by Satan, tell you, go ahead.
Sir, I believe what I SAW first hand as a young boy many years ago. I believe Isaiah.... I even believe Alan, he a pretty smart guy.  ::smile:: I for one do not trust the government, especially so seeing what I'm now witnessing with my eyes AGAIN.

DaveW

Please tell me how this is biblically important. Am I more or less saved if I believe the Earth is flat?

Alan

Quote from: DaveW on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 05:50:37
Please tell me how this is biblically important. Am I more or less saved if I believe the Earth is flat?


If you believe one fallacy, how many others including biblical doctrine will you believe?

DaveW

Quote from: Alan on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 07:00:12If you believe one fallacy, how many others including biblical doctrine will you believe?
Everyone believes one or more fallacies, usually a result of either bad / missing information; or a refusal to accept the truth for whatever reason.

Like a wise man once said:  "The Truth??  You can't handle the truth!"

Alan

Quote from: DaveW on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 07:07:36

Like a wise man once said:  "The Truth??  You can't handle the truth!"


Ironically, the man that received that most famous of movie quotes was indeed capable of handling the truth.

Texas Conservative

Quote from: Alan on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 07:20:27

Ironically, the man that received that most famous of movie quotes was indeed capable of handling the truth.

I don't know about that.  He is a scientologist after all. 

DaveW

#17
Quote from: Texas Conservative on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 07:48:07I don't know about that.  He is a scientologist after all.
Indeed.

Ya gotta wonder about someone who follows a religion invented by a SciFi author, and not even a good one at that.

Hubbard was certainly no Verne, Asimov or Heinlein.

Alan

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 07:48:07
I don't know about that.  He is a scientologist after all.


I was referring to Kaffee, not Cruise.

BlessedCreator

Quote from: DaveW on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 05:50:37
Please tell me how this is biblically important. Am I more or less saved if I believe the Earth is flat?

Truth is good. It helps us see the bigger picture clearer. If Satan wanted to lead people away from salvation, a good way to do that would be to teach us from our youths that what is real is not in line with what God tells us is true in His word, the Holy Bible. Thus creating a bias towards the only one who can save you, that His word, the Holy Bible, may be false. Also it creates a false sense of reality. A feeling like you are insignificant and unimportant. When in reality you are very important, you are one of the few beings ever created and you have a shot at eternal life.

4WD

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Fri Nov 06, 2020 - 23:23:13
Truth is good.
That video is either the work of a prankster or a complete fool.  Yes, of course, truth is good.  However, it is only of value if you know what the truth is. Clearly the author of that video does not. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the truth of the physical world which is available in this day and age certainly cannot be trusted to know the truth of the spiritual world. If you are the author of the video as you claim, then I am obliged to discount most of what you say concerning this physical world or the spiritual.

BlessedCreator

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Nov 07, 2020 - 05:09:44
That video is either the work of a prankster or a complete fool.  Yes, of course, truth is good.  However, it is only of value if you know what the truth is. Clearly the author of that video does not. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the truth of the physical world which is available in this day and age certainly cannot be trusted to know the truth of the spiritual world. If you are the author of the video as you claim, then I am obliged to discount most of what you say concerning this physical world or the spiritual.

It would be an error for anyone reading your post to simply believe what you say and not watch the video with an unbiased view and look at the facts, proof, evidence, and decide for themselves what is true.

DaveW

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Jun 16, 2020 - 14:41:44I think focusing on flat earth gets in the way of leading those to Christ rather than furthering the cause.
I totally agree.

4WD

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Mon Nov 09, 2020 - 23:41:12
It would be an error for anyone reading your post to simply believe what you say and not watch the video with an unbiased view and look at the facts, proof, evidence, and decide for themselves what is true.
There is no deciding about the truth of the earth being flat.  The earth is not flat.  And anyone trying to actually, seriously make that argument is a complete fool with no knowledge and understanding of science and physical reality. 

Alan

Why would anyone cover up the true shape of the earth? What possible motivation could there be? Why would anyone with a tinge of intelligence think that a conspiracy such as lying about the earth being a sphere, wouldn't be discovered in the very near future given our age of technology?




BlessedCreator

From my ministry website:

"The entire world has been deceived to believe that we are on a ball, in "space",
spinning at a thousand miles per hour, zooming around a massive sun at 67,000 mph,
surrounded by "galaxies", "planets" and "meteors", in a universe so big that it goes on infinitely.

This is all a lie. A lie and deception created by Satan to keep us from the truth of God's creation.
To make us think we are meaningless & insignificant. To give us a false sense of reality.
To give those ignorant of what is truly going on in this world, a false hope of the future.
To give credit to other deceptions (space, planets, etc.) and no doubt many other evils
come from this fabrication of the devil.

The truth is that you are important and were created
for a special purpose. The truth is you are on earth, at the center of God's creation, at one of the most
important times in all eternity. For there is a war going on for the souls of mankind. The eternal fate
of each of us is being determined in this short life we have.

Ultimately I believe this deception is meant to keep people from the truth of the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ.

The ancient Hebrews had a good idea of what the layout of God's creation is like."

Alan

#26
Quote from: BlessedCreator on Tue Nov 10, 2020 - 15:25:26
From my ministry website:

"The entire world has been deceived to believe that we are on a ball, in "space",
spinning at a thousand miles per hour, zooming around a massive sun at 67,000 mph,
surrounded by "galaxies", "planets" and "meteors", in a universe so big that it goes on infinitely.

This is all a lie. A lie and deception created by Satan to keep us from the truth of God's creation.
To make us think we are meaningless & insignificant. To give us a false sense of reality.
To give those ignorant of what is truly going on in this world, a false hope of the future.
To give credit to other deceptions (space, planets, etc.) and no doubt many other evils
come from this fabrication of the devil.

The truth is that you are important and were created
for a special purpose. The truth is you are on earth, at the center of God's creation, at one of the most
important times in all eternity. For there is a war going on for the souls of mankind. The eternal fate
of each of us is being determined in this short life we have.

Ultimately I believe this deception is meant to keep people from the truth of the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ.

The ancient Hebrews had a good idea of what the layout of God's creation is like."


None of that answers the question of why are we being deceived. There is no logical reason to deceive the public into believing the earth is a sphere if it truly is flat, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by conspiring against the truth.


37 countries have entered space and EVERY one of them has shared images of a spherical earth. One would think at least Israel would reveal the truth if there was a discrepancy as to the reported physical shape of the earth. Not to mention that many of those countries involved in space exploration couldn't care less about God and have no desire to discredit something that isn't part of their culture. 


The earth is obviously and observably a sphere.

4WD

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Tue Nov 10, 2020 - 15:25:26
The truth is that you are important and were created
for a special purpose. The truth is you are on earth, at the center of God's creation, at one of the most
important times in all eternity. For there is a war going on for the souls of mankind. The eternal fate
of each of us is being determined in this short life we have.
That is absolutely true, but yet it says nothing about the geometry or size of the universe.  God has created this unimaginably immense universe for a benefit to His most precious creation, mankind.  That in itself argues against the asinine idea of a flat earth in a universe of only a few thousand miles in extent.  Again the idea of a flat earth in such a universe is nothing short of an overpowering ignorance of reality.

DaveW

Quote from: BlessedCreator on Tue Nov 10, 2020 - 15:25:26
From my ministry website:

"The entire world has been deceived to believe that we are on a ball, in "space",
spinning at a thousand miles per hour, zooming around a massive sun at 67,000 mph,
surrounded by "galaxies", "planets" and "meteors", in a universe so big that it goes on infinitely.

This is all a lie. A lie and deception created by Satan to keep us from the truth of God's creation.
To make us think we are meaningless & insignificant. To give us a false sense of reality.
To give those ignorant of what is truly going on in this world, a false hope of the future.
To give credit to other deceptions (space, planets, etc.) and no doubt many other evils
come from this fabrication of the devil.

The truth is that you are important and were created
for a special purpose. The truth is you are on earth, at the center of God's creation, at one of the most
important times in all eternity. For there is a war going on for the souls of mankind. The eternal fate
of each of us is being determined in this short life we have.

Ultimately I believe this deception is meant to keep people from the truth of the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ.

The ancient Hebrews had a good idea of what the layout of God's creation is like."
Interesting that nothing on your list of so-called "lies" has any bearing on your list of truths.

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