Has the Gospel reached and been preached to all Nations?

[Hobie]

You couldn't be more wrong, but again, believe as you wish. Every generation has a choice to make regarding the gospel, but this does not negate the clear and concise biblical teaching that a final generation will all here and decide upon the issue unto the literal end of this world. Before it is all over, all of humanity will either worship the image to the beast, or God almighty through Christ Jesus our Lord. Just as biblical prophecy predicts. After which this world will literally come to its end.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Luk 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. 23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. 24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. 25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. 26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

I think its clear we have gotten to the last generation, from what is happening in the world...

[Red Baker]

Red, here you are contradicting your own statements to Yogi.  Your comments to him are saying that regeneration of a soul does not need any physical means (such as an "offer" of the gospel by a preacher) to implement this regeneration, beyond the power of the Holy Spirit.  I agree with this.  But that would then mean that none of those modern-day "witty inventions" you mentioned (such as internet, TV, etc.) would be necessary to accomplish the regeneration of a soul.  You can't have it both ways.

No, not contradicting myself. I never said the gospel is the means of regeneration ~ just because the gospel had to go out into all the world doesn't mean that I believe the gospel is the means of regenerating a person, only that it would go forth unto all the ends of the earth. God has elect children in every nation, some of them he wills to bring to the knowledge of the truth, some will die without the knowledge of Jesus Christ, nevertheless if elected God will quicken them to life and they will live according to whatever light they may possess, be it ever so small. 

I must leave ~ be back later to finish this post and another I owe to you. RB

[Red Baker]

He says He came to save sinners, so all are offered the gift of eternal life..

All are offered the gift? Hobie, this is not so.  Many remote areas of this earth before Christ and after Christ have never heard so much as if there be any Jesus Christ. Even in our modern days, the earth has many folks just a ignorant of any gospel truth as Abraham had living in the heathren land which he came from.

Your theology has you believing in that lie.

[Rella]

All are offered the gift? Hobie, this is not so.  Many remote areas of this earth before Christ and after Christ have never heard so much as if there be any Jesus Christ. Even in our modern days, the earth has many folks just a ignorant of any gospel truth as Abraham had living in the heathren land which he came from.

Your theology has you believing in that lie.

@Hobie

Yes, Red is correct and still is a [problem that creeps into things
even in these modern days.

John Allen Chau
American missionary (1991–2018)
John Allen Chau was an American evangelical Christian missionary who was killed by the Sentinelese, an uncontacted tribe, after illegally travelling to North Sentinel Island and experiencing numerous hostile encounters over several days in an attempt to introduce the tribe to Christianity. Wikipedia

these people still have not been witnessed to because they killed the person who was trying.

[DaveW]

You haven't heard of the Nephites and Lamanites seeing Jesus in the Americas in the 1st century?   

Never happened.

[DaveW]

Apparently you aren't willing to take Paul's word for the truth about this evangelistic coverage of all the nations back in the first century. Why is that?

Oh I take Paul's word ok; it is your understanding of it I take issue with. 

[Alan]

Could you clarify what you mean by "flaws in the literature"?  Do you mean flaws in our translations of what Paul originally said?  Or flaws in Paul's own understanding when his words were originally written? 

 

I believe Paul was speaking the truth that was known at the time, he was speaking to his best ability of the knowledge he had available to him, there was just no genuine way he could have known the vastness or the composition of the earth at that point in time. 

[Alan]

I think it meant all the known world, it could not have meant every single nation ( or kindred if you will ) on the earth at that time. I could be wrong, It just does not seem feasible, or possible in such a short time. I do not accept 3 Resurrections concerning the resurrected saints carrying out his mission ~ that's using one's imagination more so than using scriptures to prove a position. 

Agreed

[Hobie]

All are offered the gift? Hobie, this is not so.  Many remote areas of this earth before Christ and after Christ have never heard so much as if there be any Jesus Christ. Even in our modern days, the earth has many folks just a ignorant of any gospel truth as Abraham had living in the heathren land which he came from.

Your theology has you believing in that lie.

Ah, now your asking a good question.. In the islands are many who have never read the Bible and before that never had one, or heard what it says, so  what happens to those who have/had no knowledge of Jesus Christ?

Well what does scripture say about Job, and Jethro, and even Balaam who like Jonah tried to go against God. Were did they get the knowledge of Him...

[4WD]

Ah, now your asking a good question.. In the islands are many who have never read the Bible and before that never had one, or heard what it says, so  what happens to those who have/had no knowledge of Jesus Christ?

Well what does scripture say about Job, and Jethro, and even Balaam who like Jonah tried to go against God. Were did they get the knowledge of Him...

Heb 1:1  Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2  but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.


1Jn 1:1  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life--
1Jn 1:2  the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us--
1Jn 1:3  that which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1Jn 1:4  And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete.

1Co 13:9  For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
1Co 13:10  but when the perfect [i.e., the complete] comes, the partial will pass away.

I think the "perfect" or the "complete" that comes is the complete word of God, the Bible.  All of this declares that God's word, the Bible, is complete.  Everything that one needs to know about God in order to believe in Him and to love and obey Him is in His written word. There is no longer any need For the Holy Spirit to empower anyone to prophesy. 

[Amo]

Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. 9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. 11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

[Hobie]

@Hobie

Yes, Red is correct and still is a [problem that creeps into things
even in these modern days.

John Allen Chau
American missionary (1991–2018)
John Allen Chau was an American evangelical Christian missionary who was killed by the Sentinelese, an uncontacted tribe, after illegally travelling to North Sentinel Island and experiencing numerous hostile encounters over several days in an attempt to introduce the tribe to Christianity. Wikipedia

these people still have not been witnessed to because they killed the person who was trying.

The power of the Holy Spirit can reach even these few, we cannot deny what it is able to do...