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what was the Law for?

Started by TheWordIsOne, Sat Nov 20, 2021 - 14:54:48

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Jaime

.....through the law we become conscious of sin.

TheWordIsOne

greeting  ::smile::
what is a transgression against the law?

Jaime

#3
Sin

Rom 4:15 .....because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression

TheWordIsOne

Greeting
What is, a word grace gospel?


thank you

Jaime


TheWordIsOne

a hint
Matthew 23:2 (NKJV) "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.

who today sit on Mose seat, Christ warns us

TheWordIsOne

#7
is the question too hard to answer?  ::pondering::

another hint
Revelation 2:13 (KJV) I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.


Jaime

#8
Tell us your idea. No need to play 20 questions. Present it, if we agree no big deal. If we don't, hence a discussion will erupt. Not unusualfor discussion forum. Multi stage puzzles don't do to well here. Suit yourself though.

TheWordIsOne

then If give  you the  fish then how do you fish, life is multiple-choice, I feel  you are upset
Matthew 6:33 (NKJV) But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

when you seek the Lord's righteousness, I will provide a truth
show me in his word's what is the Lord's   righteousness

In all respect

Jaime

#10
As I said, YOU do the showing. I'm not upset. If you want to play 20 questions, I'm out. Nothing personal. Just a preference. I assume you prefer asking questions. Maybe thera's someone here that likes to play 20 questions.

TheWordIsOne

will you answer the Lord in such a manner just asking?

Jaime

#12
Asking is the problem as I said. Ask someone else.

TheWordIsOne

#13
The Gravestone, in Vatican City
At 4 am I had this dream then it became a vision of a kind of a window a portal opens up in the heavens, it was miraculous Wow! (2 Corinthians 12 : 3; 12: 21), I saw in this vision the center of a huge court it was Vatican City with a alter 360 degrees above me, it was made of stone it, on it was eight figures, they were also huge insides, end to end 360 degrees.

Seven of them have on a robe, colored from valet to red to purple and gold, on their head were three crowns on top of each other, gold to silver, on their heads, they held a staff or a scepter in their right hands, on top of this scepter across was an angel crucified to the cross, his wings were spread out on the cross.                                                                                                         
All of their eyes were black

But the eight figures were much different than the seven figures, this was much bigger than all seven figures.
The Head was made a crown made of Gold, with six horns, three on one side and three on the other side his chest had a breastplate the word blasphemy breastplate, made of silver, and his arms an alchemist bracer of silver around on his arms with an iron robe - like bronze wrapped around his waist, covering both waist and his thigh.
His feet were bare it looks like the color copper, but his, alter was made of Clay; steam was coming out of the clay.
Then a very loud noise came from above me, I look up a huge stone came flaming down, and something move me quickly from the center of the huge place, the flaming stone slam the center of this court, as the smoke dissipated a gravestone appear in the center of this court WOW!
It was gravestone was a huge tall masculine man sitting on a Throne and I shall man in front of him, and the man was asking or informing about something, and the huge tall masculine man sitting on a Throne, like tell me your problem. No words but the appearance of impression or despair.   

Now On the bottom of this Throne, a Mythical beast called Centaur, half-man, half-beast!
Centaur beast had a cross crushing, on the Centaurs back, and in front, Centaurs were four black wolves with no eyes, on the bottom the gravestone was two skulls was four eyes and beside the skull eight figures with a year, then a bright flash of silver light came upon me, I just woke up trembling.

This vision was very detailed for me to see, it is not demonic influence, for I can discern both good and evil (Heb 5: 14) but it was an angelic or divine influence, what is the message to the Church? I saw Two different Churches divided against itself



RB

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Sun Nov 21, 2021 - 19:04:58
will you answer the Lord in such a manner just asking?
The Lord would not play silly games as you are doing, and btw, you certainly are not the Lord.

Jaime answered your first question concerning sin and you never even acknowledge his answer. See Reply #3

RB

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Sun Nov 21, 2021 - 18:20:30is the question too hard to answer?
I have one for you:
QuoteMatthew 22:41-45~"While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
Question:
Quote from: RB to TheWordisOne"Since David call Jesus Lord HOW is he his son? "

TheWordIsOne

#16
Son of David the beloved One

Dear Heavenly Father,
You loved the youngest son of Jesse of Bethlehem, the one You called "beloved", "David"'poet, warrior king, lover of beautiful women'a man both valiant and imperfect, but You loved him because despite his imperfections, he loved You with all his heart.  Give us a heart like David's, Lord  When we fail You and fall into sin give us a David's heart to come to you in abject contrition seeking your forgiveness and reconciliation.  And when we triumph give us David's heart to give all glory and honor to You.  We ask that you send Your Holy Spirit to guide us in our study of the shepherd boy You called to shepherd Your people Israel. 
David, the beloved, prays for us!  We ask this in the name of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen
"He chose David to be his servant, took him from the sheepfold, took him from tending ewes to pasture his servant Jacob, and Israel his heritage.  He pastured them with unblemished heart; with a sensitive hand he led them."

Psalm 78:70-72 (NKJV) He also chose David His servant, And took him from the sheepfolds;
From following the ewes that had young He brought him, To shepherd Jacob His people, And Israel His inheritance.
So he shepherded them according to the integrity of his heart And guided them by the skillfulness of his hands.
"The world is like a human eye.  The white is the ocean that girds the earth, the iris is the earth upon which we dwell, the pupil is Jerusalem, and the image therein is the Temple of the Lord."

Please read 1 Samuel 16:1-23: Samuel Anoints David King
See Ruth 4:18-22 and Matthew 1:3-6.
Song of Solomon 6:3 I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies.

The Root of Jesse
Isaiah 11:10 (NKJV) "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, And His resting place shall be glorious."


Psalm 110:1-2 (NKJV)  A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
The LORD shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

Psalm 132:11-12 (NKJV) The LORD has sworn in truth to David; He will not turn from it: "I will set upon your throne the fruit of your body.
If your sons will keep My covenant And My testimony which I shall teach them, Their sons also shall sit upon your throne forevermore."


Isaiah 9:6-7 (NKJV) For unto us a Child is born, Unto us, a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

read Acts 2:25 41

RB

#17
Sir, can you not answer a simple question? I asked you this question:
Quote from: RB to TheWordisOne"Since David calls Jesus Lord HOW is he his son? "
Instead of answering my question you starting your post ......"Son of David the beloved One"~and proceeded to speak only of David, without ever mentioning JESUS CHRIST!

You did say something that is very disturbing to any NT Christian when you said:
Quote from: TheWordIsOne Reply #16 on: Today at 10:59:15David, the beloved, prays for us!
We do not need a dead saint praying for us, be it David, Mary, etc. We have the man JESUS CHRIST who is our mediator between us and God. I think he knows the Father very well being ONE with Him in His glory as the true God and eternal life.
Quote from: Paul1st Timothy 2:5~"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"
Do you know him?

TheWordIsOne

you have your answer you just can't accept it David is a picture of Christ

Revelation 1:18 (NKJV) I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.


and Sants are alive on earth   ::clappingoverhead::

RB

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Mon Nov 22, 2021 - 15:58:28you have your answer you just can't accept it David is a picture of Christ
I do know that truth very well, yet that has not one thing to do with my question to you~One more time.....
Quote from: RB to TheWordisOne "Since David calls Jesus Lord HOW is he his son? "
Try to answer this simple question~can you do so? I'm beginning to have my doubt.

TheWordIsOne


RB

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Tue Nov 23, 2021 - 12:47:48Say please  
Would you please with sugar on top retire from trying to teach the word of God~do all of us a favor and those who know you according to the flesh. You are one confused individual and that is being kind. 

TheWordIsOne

#22
Greeting
yes life is like that

The Throne of David and the House of Jacob
Prophecy: The Lord will give him the throne of David.
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and establish it with judgment and justice from henceforth ever and ever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel (Isaiah 9:7)

Fulfillment: And, behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for evermore, and of his Kingdom, there shall be no end. (Luke 1: 32-33).
Jesus the Son of David, indicating his royal origin, and also the son of Abraham, indicating that he was an Israelite; both  in which son means descendant, calling the mind the promises God made to David
three Prophecy:
three Fulfillment:
Revelation 22:16
(KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Read
Matthew 15:22 
Matthew 20:30 
Matthew 21:15 
Mark 12:35-37
2 Samuel 7:12 – 16                                                                                                                                                   
Matthew 1:1-25

Prophecy: Micah 5:2
Fulfillment: Matthew 2 1 – 6

2 Timothy 3:14-17 (KJV) But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

How to study the bible get NKJV Bible study of your choosing
Get Strong Concordance to find individual words like Son of David


Matthew 4:18-19 (KJV) And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.


your welcome
remember to Love

RB

Okay, I give up, you cannot answer the question Jesus asked the Jews/Pharisees of his day. I understand.

Maybe one day you will figure the question out.

TheWordIsOne

greeting
your problem is you want the answer on a silver platter for a man of your age, there are more honorable men than YOU!  ::doh::

YOU need to fish for your answer.
I know my answer, YOU should not let anyone do your homework.  ::frustrated::

Proverbs 25:2-3 (KJV) It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

You are not a king, but I am

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

End of Story

TheWordIsOne

Are all  Sinners

[John 15:22-23 (NKJV) If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
He who hates Me hates My Father also.

John 15:24 (NKJV) If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father.

John 1:8 (NKJV) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Proverbs 26:12 (NKJV) Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Isaiah 5:21-23 (NKJV) Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, And prudent in their own sight!
Woe to men mighty at drinking wine, Woe to men valiant for mixing intoxicating drink, Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away justice from the righteous man!

Jeremiah 2:35 (NKJV) Yet you say, 'Because I am innocent, Surely His anger shall turn from me.' Behold, I will plead My case against you, Because you say, 'I have not sinned.'

1 John 1:8-10 (NKJV) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

4WD

#26
Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Tue Nov 23, 2021 - 15:06:38
greeting
your problem is you want the answer on a silver platter for a man of your age, there are more honorable men than YOU!  ::doh::
Well ::doh::     It certainly is clear as the bright shining sun that YOU ain't one of them.

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Tue Nov 23, 2021 - 15:06:38You are not a king, but I am
A king???   rofl rofl rofl rofl
You are not a king; rather you are a comedian  --  nay  --  a JOKER.

Choir Loft

Quote from: TheWordIsOne on Sat Nov 20, 2021 - 19:30:59
greeting  ::smile::
what is a transgression against the law?


Believe it or not I've spoken to people that don't know the answer to that question.   They consider themselves to be Christians, but have apparently never read the Bible.  My mom was one of those people.  She was devout, but misinformed about a great many things.

One the flip side of the argument, I've encountered people who don't know what SIN is.

I attribute this lack of basic religious knowledge to the almost total lack of truth that issues from many pulpits in the land.   Pastors seem to be more concerned about some fund raiser than spiritual edification of their flocks.   They seem to always have one hand on the Bible and the other in someone else's pocket (or pants, as it were).

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Rella

Quote from: Choir Loft on Sat Apr 09, 2022 - 09:59:17


Believe it or not I've spoken to people that don't know the answer to that question.   They consider themselves to be Christians, but have apparently never read the Bible.  My mom was one of those people.  She was devout, but misinformed about a great many things.

One the flip side of the argument, I've encountered people who don't know what SIN is.

I attribute this lack of basic religious knowledge to the almost total lack of truth that issues from many pulpits in the land.   Pastors seem to be more concerned about some fund raiser than spiritual edification of their flocks.   They seem to always have one hand on the Bible and the other in someone else's pocket (or pants, as it were).

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

::doh::

Hollering yes. But no answer to the question  ::whistle::

Choir Loft

Quote from: Jaime on Sat Nov 20, 2021 - 17:24:33
.....through the law we become conscious of sin.

Which is why the LAW doesn't save.

Yet apart from the LAW no one can be saved.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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