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Climate's A-changing

Started by Amo, Sun Oct 20, 2024 - 09:38:46

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Amo

Rev 16:1  And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth........
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. 8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.


Secular humanists, the Pope, and many other political and religious leaders of this earth continue to cry aloud about global warming and or climate change. Thinking that they can change and or control the climate of this earth and save it, though God's word has predicted its end, and the convulsions  leading to it. But scripture reveals the real reason for these convulsions, in that they will increasingly refuse to give God the glory for His creative and sustaining power. Leaning upon their own supposed wisdom and speculative "sciences" to prevent the end which God has predicted.

Their pride and obstinacy will only lead them further away from the truth, and their efforts including establishing the mark of the beast, will only lead directly to that which they intend to stop. The judgments of God upon the earth because they will not repent, and give God the glory He deserves.

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

The people of the world refuse to give God the glory He deserves. They will not acknowledge Him as the creator of heaven and earth, as the scriptures testify. Creating their own version of what happened, and rejecting the one commandment that points out exactly who God is, and what He did in creating this world in six days. The difference between the saints and those who will worship the beast is that the saints keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. While many who will worship the beast profess the faith of Jesus as well, they refuse to keep one of the commandments of God. The very one which gives God the glory for creating the heavens and earth.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

While most of the earth will acknowledge and obey the earthly command and tradition of Sunday sacredness, they will reject the commandment of God concerning the sacredness of the seventh day. In this simple choice between a heavenly mandate, and an earthly one, they will choose their final destiny and fate accordingly. They will either bow before the man of sin and lawlessness, or before the Lord Jesus Christ who came to do the will of his heavenly father, exemplifying the path of the saved. By obeying the commandments of one or the other, for they are not the same.

https://parliamentofreligions.org/blog/the-ten-green-commandments-of-laudato-si/

Quote below from link above, emphasis is mine.

QuoteThe Ten Green Commandments of Laudato Si'

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VII. Learn a new way of dwelling in our common home and manage it more responsibly through a new economics and a new political culture. We need a new way to live on Earth, including a new economy and a new political order, focused on the common good of all creation.

A new global political and economic order, based upon papal notions of the common good. And what papal institution based upon the common good, also regulates the economy concerning the ability to buy or sell?

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/catechism/cat_view.cfm?recnum=5848

Quote below from link above, emphasis is mine.

QuoteCatechism of the Catholic Church

2177 The Sunday celebration of the Lord's Day and his Eucharist is at the heart of the Church's life. "Sunday is the day on which the paschal mystery is celebrated in light of the apostolic tradition and is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church." 110 "Also to be observed are the day of the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension of Christ, the feast of the Body and Blood of Christi, the feast of Mary the Mother of God, her Immaculate Conception, her Assumption, the feast of Saint Joseph, the feast of the Apostles Saints Peter and Paul, and the feast of All Saints." 111

2178 This practice of the Christian assembly dates from the beginnings of the apostolic age. 112 The Letter to the Hebrews reminds the faithful "not to neglect to meet together, as is the habit of some, but to encourage one another." 113

Tradition preserves the memory of an ever-timely exhortation: Come to Church early, approach the Lord, and confess your sins, repent in prayer.... Be present at the sacred and divine liturgy, conclude its prayer and do not leave before the dismissal.... We have often said: "This day is given to you for prayer and rest. This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it." 114

2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church's holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country's legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this "festal gathering," this "assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven." 125

There was no apostolic tradition of Sunday observance. The scriptures neither teach or exemplify any such practice. Such is believed only by those who wish it to be so, and then choose to make such an institution of scripture, based upon extremely shoddy evidence and or biased and manipulated interpretation. Nevertheless, even if it were a true tradition of the early church, the stern warning to the Jews regarding their chosen traditions applies to the "Christian" church as well.

Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Why will professed Christians teach the traditions and commandments of men for doctrine, while rejecting and or ignoring a commandment of God?








Wycliffes_Shillelagh

You started a topic on climate change, but still somehow ended up talking about Sabbath observance. ::doh::

Amo

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Sun Oct 20, 2024 - 15:46:09You started a topic on climate change, but still somehow ended up talking about Sabbath observance. ::doh::

So what kind of worship do you think the second beast of Revelation 13 will force upon everyone. Do you think it will be a literal bowing down to some image or statue it makes, like the one Nebuchadnezzar tried to get everyone to bow down before? Or some other form of worship, not connected to a day of worship? Do you think there is any significance to the beast demanding all to worship the image in Rev 13, and God calling all to worship Him who "made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" in Rev 14? Then declaring that the saints are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, after warning all not to worship the beast in Rev 14 as well?

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Quote from: Amo on Sun Oct 20, 2024 - 21:32:01So what kind of worship do you think the second beast of Revelation 13 will force upon everyone. Do you think it will be a literal bowing down to some image or statue it makes, like the one Nebuchadnezzar tried to get everyone to bow down before? Or some other form of worship, not connected to a day of worship? Do you think there is any significance to the beast demanding all to worship the image in Rev 13, and God calling all to worship Him who "made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" in Rev 14? Then declaring that the saints are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, after warning all not to worship the beast in Rev 14 as well?
I don't think these are future events.

Rella

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Mon Oct 21, 2024 - 03:11:59I don't think these are future events.

Aye, there is the problem for all... Thinking as opposed to knowing.

I would rather be forewarned of a possibility then to be blindsided.

Rella

Quote from: Amo on Sun Oct 20, 2024 - 21:32:01So what kind of worship do you think the second beast of Revelation 13 will force upon everyone. Do you think it will be a literal bowing down to some image or statue it makes, like the one Nebuchadnezzar tried to get everyone to bow down before? Or some other form of worship, not connected to a day of worship? Do you think there is any significance to the beast demanding all to worship the image in Rev 13, and God calling all to worship Him who "made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" in Rev 14? Then declaring that the saints are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, after warning all not to worship the beast in Rev 14 as well?

I think it more imperative to wonder how such worship would be monitored.

IOW if it is a weekly bowing down to such, then would one not just stay home.. or will we fully realize George Orwell's 1984 with Cameras in the house...?

Or possibly we will all be exposed to a form of brain washing in which we
listen to only the heads of the churches... some of which are clearly occupied by anything non-Christian.

I recently had chance to converse with a person who Was raised in the RCC church but drifted away. I believe this person did so when they finally left home , but through the years they have tried various churches of all ilk to try and find a church home but have been unable...

Finally they are leaning to going back to the RCC. I would druther that then a total disregard because they are not into forums where they might learn something (Yes I have)

But the true shocker to me was when the mention came that they are leaning to going back, but will not be able to partake in communion because they
are divorced... (and remarried)

BUT emphatically stated they are the one True church.

And later on during our discussion came the affirmation that it is the actual body of Christ in their communion ... and I brought up a few interesting things I have been studying and debating  recently about
we are souls, we live in a body, and we have a soul.

They never hear of that.

And then About the new heavens and new earth and new Jerusalem...

They never heard of that

Yet they read their bible and follow someone online each morning.

So.......... no idea what that church does  teach, but for certain
it appears as if

well, I digress again and will stop but I am fearful that with the likes of Frankie, and lack of knowledge, many will follow along with what ever
becomes the norm until the end.

I also suppose that the form of worship could also be the taking of the mark... either visible or invisible needing a black light of sorts to see for if one commits to this new way... *Most likely the young)... that would scream of a continued worship now, wouldn't it.






Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Quote from: Rella on Mon Oct 21, 2024 - 05:51:07or will we fully realize George Orwell's 1984 with Cameras in the house...?
they're already there

Rella

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Mon Oct 21, 2024 - 13:03:31they're already there

Ah....

Not here... and I don't even have a ring doorbell.Wont work.. wifi wont go through our walls

But I know they listen... you can tell by what pops up on the laptop screen

Amo

QuoteI think it more imperative to wonder how such worship would be monitored.

Just recall how they began to single out non jabbers, and then began separating them from the rest of society. Some nations literally trapped their citizens in doors, monitoring and controlling their movements. They cut people off from public and or private transportation systems. Would not allow them to shop, or buy, to sell, unless they were jabbed and or wore masks. Shutting down countless businesses regardless of either to stop the supposed spread of disease.

All they need is the cooperation of the majority, and presto, those who do not go along with the program regardless of what the program is, are cut off from societies. Easy peasy in this day and age. It has already been done on national levels in much more primitive societies all throughout the past. It has already been done in entire nations as well, concerning obligatory Sunday worship and or church attendance. It even took place within this very nation in its early stages. When communities of Christians who themselves came here to escape persecution, then made it illegal not to attend church on Sundays.

Ignorant and deceived people have, do, and will readily support mandating dictatorships. The history of our world is replete with examples. The global government and economic system so many are working on putting in place, will facilitate just exactly what holy scripture has predicted. Historical records are filled with Sunday laws imposed upon the peoples of many a nations. They are being imposed and implemented around the world currently, and many are seeking to establish more of them. These are the simple facts of the matter.

This is not to mention that one of the main supporters and facilitators of globalism, which calls exactly for a global economic and governing system with real teeth to enforce its policies, also calls exactly for the establishment of Sunday sacredness laws anywhere and everywhere. In order to establish the "common good" for all of course, mandated by the global government enforcing the "common good". This is not science fiction, these are real issues, that real people want to establish. People infamous for their past successes in establishing and maintaining such abusive economies and governments. 


Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Quote from: Rella on Tue Oct 22, 2024 - 08:00:22Ah....

Not here... and I don't even have a ring doorbell.Wont work.. wifi wont go through our walls

But I know they listen... you can tell by what pops up on the laptop screen
Well there's plenty in mine.  Alexa in virtually every room, a PC and a couple laptops, yes the doorbell, the smart TV,  and everyone's cellphones.

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