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The Story of Adam and Eve Teaches Reincarnation for the Unredeemed

Started by Quantumbit, Fri Dec 06, 2024 - 18:26:47

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Quantumbit

If anyone is genuinely interested in this topic, let me know. There is much to reveal beginning with this verse...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."


According to the Scholars, both 'day' and 'surely die' are literal. However, the Church does not want you to know that. They have been telling you a lie for thousands of years now about a made up, so called 'spiritual death'.

Here is what really happened if we simply believe the Bible and not man's false dogma...

The Man and the Woman both died physically on that very day.

Not a thousand years later, not 'began to die or age'. They returned to dust as God said they would within a 24-hour period.

Quantumbit

Something so simple, so obvious, has been in our Bibles for thousands of years. Yet to my knowledge, no one has been able to see it. It is a testament to how deep and how thorough the conditioning has been.

I propose a challenge. I will give a brazillion dollars to anyone who can show me the name 'Eve' in any verse before Genesis 3:20.

It is not there. Yet, how many times have both Christians and non-Christians assumed it was? Pretty much all the time is the answer.

There was no Eve before the Fall. Go back and look. You will not find her there. What you will find is another woman that God created. No, it was not Lilith.

The woman's name was Ishshah. She was the first woman created, not Eve.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Fri Dec 06, 2024 - 22:42:10The woman's name was Ishshah. She was the first woman created, not Eve.

Look closely this time...

Genesis 2:23
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."


What did Adam call her? Certainly not Eve. Did I change the words? No, but you did. You took away and added to the Word of God. Did you know there is a special curse for those who do that?

Say her name. Ishshah...

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/802.htm

Poor thing. She has been ignored for way too long. Does anyone care?

Quantumbit

A precedent was set here...

Genesis 2:19
"And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."


Do you see the rule being established? This is the context by which proper exegesis must stem from.

Whatever Adam CALLED each newly created living creature, THAT WAS ITS NAME.

Again, what did Adam call the newly created living creature that was made from his rib? Adam called her Ishshah. Thus, THAT WAS HER NAME.

Her name was not Eve. This is the Word of God. This is established fact.

Quantumbit

Moreover, Ishshah did not have reproductive organs. Yeah, that is another issue that no one has bothered to enlighten you on.

First of all, reproductive organs are sinful. In fact, that is how you know you have been born into sin. You have reproductive organs. That is called 'shame'.

Revelation 16:15
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."


Ishshah was created *WITHOUT* shame. She was created without original sin. Moreover, Ishshah was created IMMORTAL.

Bearing children involves death. Meditate on that. How can there be death when God said death did not exist until the Fall? Did you bother to do your homework on this? Sperm die during procreation. A fetus must age in the womb in order to develop. Aging is something that leads to death. Common sense! No death before the Fall means just that. Why do you teach contrary to Scripture?

Ishshah did not need reproductive organs because they were not required for God's original plan.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Fri Dec 06, 2024 - 23:07:01Ishshah did not need reproductive organs because they were not required for God's original plan.

What was God's original plan for Mankind? Here...

Genesis 2:5
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."


What does 'till the ground mean'? It means two different things, depending on if we are talking before the Fall or after.

This is what 'tilling the ground' meant before the Fall...

Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


Do you understand? Tilling the ground meant creating life from scratch. It meant having the power to do what only God could do.

Here it is again...

Genesis 2:19
"And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."


God 'tilled the ground' to produce life. Thus, the original plan for Mankind was for us to help God create life from the dust of the ground. We were to be Holy Genetic Engineers, entrusted with the greatest and most powerful gift.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Fri Dec 06, 2024 - 23:14:45What does 'till the ground mean'? It means two different things, depending on if we are talking before the Fall or after.

Having the power to create life requires tremendous responsibility. A test is required. Hence, the Forbidden Fruit.

Because Ishshah failed the test, she must now suffer the consequences.

First of all, Ishshah died physically on the very day she partook. Second, Ishshah must now be resurrected in order to fulfill the original plan. Here is when that happened...

Genesis 3:7
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."


'Eyes being opened' is what Scripture calls Resurrection of Damnation. It is part of the process of REINCARNATION. You know? The one topic you are forbidden from speaking or even thinking about? You can talk about Flat Earth, Sunday Worship Laws and other ignorant nonsense all day. No problemo. Why? Because the Church cares not if you promote lies and falsehoods. In fact, it is encouraged.

Try teaching Truth and watch what happens. You will be banned and censored.

Biblical Reincarnation is the #1 topic Satan wishes to keep you from learning about. The typical so called "Christian" self-polices like good lemmings and stone to death any Stephens that come along that try to awaken those still stuck in Plato's Cave.

Meanwhile they pat themselves on the back, gaze into the mirror and exclaim 'well done faithful servant', as if God is actually thinking that. As if they just slayed a demon.

They award themselves with fake compliments and silly emoticons. Earthly treasures they have stored away.

Fools.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Fri Dec 06, 2024 - 23:29:04'Eyes being opened' is what Scripture calls Resurrection of Damnation. It is part of the process of REINCARNATION.

Ishshah is now in the process of being reincarnated into another being. This NEW CREATURE must be given a name. Remember the rule? Any new living creature must be given a name...

Genesis 3:20
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."


New creation = New name.

What, you thought Adam just named the same person twice for no good reason, violating the rule God laid down just a few verses before? Pffft. What kind of Student are you? You have no excuse for that one.

Eve is a new creation from the Forbidden Fruit, the Zygote from which we all partook. Eve did *NOT* come from Adam's rib!

Eve was given reproductive organs. That is why she is called 'Mother of all living'. She no longer has the power to create life from scratch, from the dust of the ground. She must create life by another means...

Genesis 3:16
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."


God just invented a new thing called 'conception'. It was not there before!

The Sperm 'bruises its head' when it enters the Ovum...

Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."


Enmity is what Sperm does to Ovum. It seeks it out and attacks it. Scripture calls it 'enmity'.

Enmity is 'two shall be one'...

Ephesians 2:16
"And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby"


When Jesus died on the cross, he slew the enmity, the original moment of conception (i.e., partaking of the Forbidden Fruit) that happened in the Garden of Eden. Two became one.

Quantumbit

Part of the reincarnation process involves being given a new Body of corruption...

Genesis 3:21
"Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them."


Most of you are still on the Milk. You imagine Adam and Eve being clothed like the Flintstones, looking like ridiculous cavemen or something. The Church teaches Milk to keep you in Plato's Cave.

The Meat of the Word is this...

Job 10:11
"Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews."

God clothed the couple with skin and flesh. He clothed them with an Earthly Tabernacle filled with corruption because that is the Covenant Adam and Eve made. They made a Covenant with death.

Covenant with death = Reincarnation. <- That is one of the many phrases God uses to describe Biblical Reincarnation.

Earth Dwellers is another. Yep. Earth Dwellers are those that wish to keep reincarnating over and over back here again. Now you know. You're welcome.

Son of Perdition is another reincarnation phrase.

The more you know.

Quantumbit

So, you believe the Tree of Life is some sort of 'life extension technology'? Seriously?

You mean to tell me that those in Heaven must get up every morning and eat from the Tree of Life or they will 'begin to age' and 'eventually die'? Did you bother to double check your logic on that?

Fact Check time:

Again, no death means no aging. To have to constantly eat from the Tree of Life or you will die is completely contradictory to what God promised.

Thus, Adam and Eve did not 'begin to age' and 'eventually die' because they did not have access to 'life extension technology'. Pffft. What stupidity you folks vomit.

Ishshah was created immortal. She did not need 'life extension technology' as you folks falsely claim. You seriously need to step up your game if you wish to offer sound logic and reasoning to the masses. They are not as dumb as you think.

Hobie

Beware...This is a AI generated text, I've seen this type of text on many of the Christian forums......

Quantumbit

Quote from: Hobie on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 05:32:42Beware...This is a AI generated text, I've seen this type of text on many of the Christian forums......

Did the Holy Ghost tell you this?

Rella

Quote from: Hobie on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 05:32:42Beware...This is a AI generated text, I've seen this type of text on many of the Christian forums......

II have too and I would have sworn I saw an Ai reference on here earlier... but now it is gone. ::shrug::

Quantumbit

What about Adam? Yes, he died physically within a literal twenty-four-hour period as well. Just as two women were created in Genesis, there were also two men. However, because you were told to take away and add to the Word of God, you are unable to see it. It is time to correct your mistakes.

We begin here...

Genesis 2:4
"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens"


See the word 'day'? Yeah, you changed it without realizing it because you are so hopelessly conditioned. You were told to alter it and never bothered to question it. Shame on you.

Does the verse say, 'six days'? Nope. So why do you say it does?

Does the verse say, 'back in the day', like an expression grandpa would use? Nope.

The word day is literal. How about that? How crazy is it to simply believe what God wrote?

What day is God referring to? God is referring to the Third Day, when the Three Heavens and the Earth were completed and ready for its first form of Life.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 15:41:46What day is God referring to? God is referring to the Third Day, when the Three Heavens and the Earth were completed and ready for its first form of Life.

We know this is fact because it states it in the next verse...

Genesis 2:5 (New Living Translation)
"neither wild plants nor grains were growing on the earth. For the LORD God had not yet sent rain to water the earth, and there were no people to cultivate the soil."


As plain as can be, we see that extra details are being added to the Creation Account beginning with the Third Day. Basically, the 'fine print' is being explained to us.

So, what happens next? What happened on the Third Day, before any form of life was created?

Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


Wait what!?!? You mean to tell me that Man was created on the Third Day? Yep, we have all been lied to. Shame on the Church for doing that, and shame on Christians for repeating the lie.

Simply put, the First Adam was created on the Third Day. The REINCARNATED Adam was created on the Sixth Day along with the REINCARNATED Ishshah called 'Eve'.

For some reason, God kept the name 'Adam' the same. That is why Jesus is referred to as the Last Adam. Ah, now it makes sense. Jesus rose on the Third Day as a reflection of the First Adam rising on the Third Day.

The more you know.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 15:52:32Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


99.999% of both Christians and non-Christians alike have no idea in the world what the above verse is teaching.

We are Tripartite beings:
  • Body
  • Soul
  • Spirit

A Soul is a living organism's Genome Sequence. That is all there is to it. Simple. This is the Word of God teaching this, not me.

What God did was take Nitrogen Bases, the 'dust' of the ground, and create a Genome Sequence that was to become the First Adam. You folks should understand that if you wanted to create a life form, you need a blueprint first. You need a Genome Sequence. God is not the idiot you people make him out to be.

Once God created the blueprint of life, i.e., Adam's Soul, the next step is to connect the Genome Sequence with a PRE-EXISTING Spirit. Yes, that is correct. We have always existed and always will exist. You were told different, I know. Welcome to reality.

We were the Morning Stars that sang together. Yeah, that was us before the universe was created. Now you know. You're welcome.

Note that the Genome Sequence is in a state of 'deep sleep'. In other words, there is no Spirit attached to it. The Genome Sequence has not been 'quickened' yet.

God then breathed the pre-existing Spirit of Adam into the Genome Sequence and thus, created a Living Soul. Do you understand?

Living Soul = Soul + Spirit only! There is no Body at this point! Yes, you were told otherwise and again, you never performed a Fact Check on it.

Adam is an 'ethereal' being at this point. He is non-physical, non-corporeal. In fact, the whole universe was non-physical. You got that wrong as well. It was more of a Spirit Realm. It had yet to fall into Particles. It was the world of the Wave Function. Future potential unrealized.

The whole point of the two trees in the Garden of Eden was for the First Adam and Ishshah to choose what Body they wanted. They of course chose the Body we have now.

Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 16:11:19The whole point of the two trees in the Garden of Eden was for the First Adam and Ishshah to choose what Body they wanted. They of course chose the Body we have now.

Here is a pretty picture for you smug, unappreciative Students to roll your eyes at...


  • The Tree of Life is symbolic of Sarah's Ovary.
  • The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil are symbolic of Hagar's Ovary.

Depending on which one you make a Covenant with, you will be 'clothed' with one of two Body styles. Get it?

2 Corinthians 5:4
"For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life."


Clothed upon with a Tabernacle. Do you understand?

Tabernacle...




God clothed the couple with the Tabernacle of their choice.

It came with reproductive organs. Original Sin!

Quantumbit


Quantumbit

Quote from: Quantumbit on Sat Dec 07, 2024 - 16:11:19The whole point of the two trees in the Garden of Eden was for the First Adam and Ishshah to choose what Body they wanted. They of course chose the Body we have now.

The Garden of Eden is SYMBOLIC!



Try not to choose the wrong one next time. ::frown::

Quantumbit

The phrase 'surely die' is where you folks really messed up bad. You should be grateful I am here to enlighten and correct you. It will take a miracle, but it can happen if God is in the mood to snap you out of the spell you are under.

So, your "Hebrew Expert" buddy just informed you that your Bible is "not translated properly". Since he knows everything, naturally he is going to give you the "Super Deluxe Correct Translation" of the phrase 'surely die'...

"Dying you shall die".

OK, not bad. But what does that mean? Here is where your "Hebrew Expert" buddy leads you astray. He then goes on to say that 'Dying you shall die' means:

  • You are no longer immortal.
  • You will begin the aging process.
  • You will 'slowly die' over the course of several hundred years.
  • You will eventually die a physical death.

Really? Are you sure about that? How about we use proper exegesis to verify this so called 'fact'. We will take your "Hebrew Expert's" Super Deluxe Translation and plug it into other verses that use the exact same phrase to see if it actually works, or, if it breaks Scripture beyond repair.

Our first test:

Genesis 20:7 (KJV)
"Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine."


Now for your buddy's so called 'proper' translation...

Genesis 20:7 (Hebrew Expert Buddy)
"Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt [no longer be immortal. You will begin the aging process. You will slowly die over the course of several hundred years. You will eventually die a physical death'], thou, and all that are thine."


Did that make sense? Maybe to some of the simple minded that post on this forum. But to those with an I.Q. above room temperature, we can clearly see that the translation the "Hebrew Expert" gave us is beyond ignorant.

Let us try another verse:

Ezekiel 3:18 (KJV)
"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."


Now for your buddy's so called 'proper' translation...

Ezekiel 3:18 (Hebrew Expert Buddy)
"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt [no longer be immortal. You will begin the aging process. You will slowly die over the course of several hundred years. You will eventually die a physical death']; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."


What a joke. Do we really need any more examples? Note that there are dozens of instances of that phrase. They *all* mean the same thing.

Here is the real interpretation of "Dying you shall die":

  • Dying a physical death, you shall die the Second Death.

There. That is better. Now it works for every instance in the Bible. Proper exegesis completed. The phrase 'surely die' is always used with regards to a wicked person that is disobedient to God. Therefore, it carries with it the extra penalty of the Second Death. 'Die Die' means Twice Dead. Simple. Easy to understand. It is exactly what happened to the First Adam and Ishshah. They died twice on that very day.

Did God lie? Nope.

For more info, this website has done a very good non-biased study...

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2011/12/dying-you-shall-die

Here is the key summary:

Finally, to interpret Genesis 2:17 as announcing natural consequences instead of a juridical penalty ignores the overwhelming biblical evidence of how authors used the phrase in question throughout the Old Testament. As such, the natural consequences interpretation seems to establish human arbiters as higher authorities than the text to determine its truthfulness and relevance. Scripture no longer interprets Scripture.

What you people have done is to ensure Scripture no longer interprets Scripture. This is an epic failure on your part.

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