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Charlie Kirk

Started by Jaime, Today at 08:55:39

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Jaime

I was always impressed with Charlie's willingness to engage with fairly radical individuals on college campuses, giving them wecome acces to a microphone to debate him. I know one Christian who said to me the other day that he sure was unkind in his debates. I was totally shocked. Every video I saw of him, he seemed extremely kind and polite to even people that were hurling snot slinging insults at him. What was your impression of him?

Alan

Not a fan of Kirk at all, but he was extremely well spoken and extremely educated on his subjects. He never seemed to come across as rude, but in several instances it was quite apparent that the person debating him became unhinged. 

Red Baker

I thought very highly Of Charlie Kirk what little I knew of him personally. Folks must remember, he was still very young and I'm sure he made some mistake, I do, and Im 77.  My wife has listened to him every day for a few years and kept me informed concerning him.  I never listened to him, had too much other things to do.

Rella

Well I never followed him but knew of his work... and it seemed to be on the right side of things and anyone facing other quasi-hostile young people is good....

But I took a second look ... not against him at all when they announced


He is also the CEO of Turning Point Action, and Turning Point Faith, president of Turning Point Endowment, and a member of the Council for National Policy. That's an impressive list of accomplishments for a young man only 28 years old, however there are other accomplishments much more noteworthy.

Charlie is a Christian, and in May 2021 Kirk he married Erika Frantzve, a conservative podcaster and christian businesswoman from Arizona.

According to a recent video podcast, after discovering this truth in the Bible, Charlie and his wife began keeping the Sabbath last year, and they keep it pretty seriously.

Charlie turns his phone off on Friday night and puts it in a drawer and it stays there until Sabbath is over. He also spends the time resting, reading the Bible, praying and writing. Sometimes they go for walks. He says the Sabbath day is 'restorative' and a gift to mankind.


Erika says "There is something very powerful about obedience to Christ and honoring God with the Sabbath." She continues,

"There's so much spiritual warfare is going on right now. It is palpable, you can feel it in rooms you walk into, when you're watching the news it is surrounding us and the only way to fight back is with God's Word. The only way to understand and make sense of it [life] is with God's Word and if you don't take time to literally quiet your mind from the noise of life you will be inundated. From news articles to press releases, to your friend doing something, your family member's not allowing you to come to the holidays or whatever. It's really something special to be aligned with the Sabbath and God's Word, to be able to just take the time to just breathe, cut out the noise and just be in alignment with the [Holy] Spirit and know what your role is in all of this."


Coupled with...Report: Charlie Kirk was 'this close' to becoming Catholic just prior to his death

Ai~ for it is condensed here...

Charlie Kirk was reportedly very close to converting to Catholicism before his death, expressing to a bishop that he was "this close" to making the commitment. He acknowledged some disagreements with Catholic doctrine but showed respect for the faith and its traditions, particularly regarding the veneration of Mary.

and he had told this to a Bishop.

Jaime

I've seen a lot of his videos and was convinced he would someday be President. Though his impact after his assassination may be more than anyone could have predicted. He was definitely the most impactful voice of conservatism since Rush Limbaugh.

Rella

Quote from: Jaime on Today at 10:17:13I've seen a lot of his videos and was convinced he would someday be President. Though his impact after his assassination may be more than anyone could have predicted. He was definitely the most impactful voice of conservatism since Rush Limbaugh.

You are right. Even the on talk radio station I have on in the car that had their hosts all lined up.... one has been preempted to now have the Charlie Kirk show.

DaveW

Never heard of him before he was killed.  I have come across many conflicting reports of who he was and what he taught. 

Many say he was racist and others deny that.  He seemed to be part of the Christian Nationalist movement which is both anti-semitic and pro white. Does anyone know for sure one way or the other?

Yes I do understand that many white supremacists are (decived) True Believers in Christ.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Quote from: DaveW on Today at 10:40:07Never heard of him before he was killed.  I have come across many conflicting reports of who he was and what he taught. 

Many say he was racist and others deny that.  He seemed to be part of the Christian Nationalist movement which is both anti-semitic and pro white. Does anyone know for sure one way or the other?

Yes I do understand that many white supremacists are (decived) True Believers in Christ.
I won't claim to have known Mr. Kirk, but... he's from Arizona like me, and we did go to the same church for awhile.  When I went, it was Phoenix First Assembly, and the pastor was Tommy Barnett.  I think I may have moved on from the church before he attended (or maybe he was a child then).

I say that to say this... that church is in no way racist.  Pastor Barnett is a good man.  My mother worked in the front office of that church, and never had a bad thing to say about him.

So, I didn't know Charlie, but I know where he came up, and it leads me to think that he wasn't any kind of overt racist.

I've heard some comments of his that appear problematic.  Mostly they're statements of "us" and "them" being construed as "white" and "not white."  I think they're probably actually statements of "us who go to the big church on the hill" and "them who attend our mission church downtown."  That church has a large ministry to inner-city youth and those addicted to drugs.

mommydi

Like Rella, before his assassination, I only knew of him by name only, but since I've watched a few of his videos. Yes, he never appeared to answer in anger no matter what was said to him.
The people cheering his death was more than I could handle.

Rella

Quote from: mommydi on Today at 12:01:01Like Rella, before his assassination, I only knew of him by name only, but since I've watched a few of his videos. Yes, he never appeared to answer in anger no matter what was said to him.
The people cheering his death was more than I could handle.

I agree.

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