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Is Antisemitism caused by hatred of what makes Jews distinct?

Started by Hobie, Mon Dec 15, 2025 - 18:28:38

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We see the current deadly mass shooting on Bondi Beach. What motivated such hatred, how could they kill so many innocent people? What we see, is basically a attack much like the Pogroms of old, to wipe out the Jews.

Antisemitism in the form of persecution and Pogroms were happening way before the Holocaust, and everyone knows what happened in 1492 in Spain, but something else happened that year. In 1492, King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castille issue the Alhambra Decree, mandating that all Jews be expelled from the country. History records what happened, "Spanish Jews were forced to renounce their faith or leave their thousand-year homeland behind. Meanwhile, the Spanish economy crumbled as hundreds of thousands prepared for departure, liquidating their assets and scrambling to arrange their affairs."

This had started even earlier back a century before, in 1391, when a wave of anti-Jewish riots swept through Spain, where thousands were killed. Others were forced to accept Christianity, so you can see the problem with the sincerity of these "conversions", so many of these "converts" now became persecuted by the Inquisition. And everyone knows the Roman persecution of the Jews leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, and millions being killed or were exiled or fled for their lives.

So why was there such hatred of the Jews, it cant be explained by the accusation that the Jews were Christ-killers., as anti-Jewish riots swept through Roman Empire as Christians were dying in the Coliseum and spread even in non-Christian areas. So what made them different than the people in the other nations and areas, well the day of worship certainly made them stand out and distinct to say the least.

Amo

Many things which the Jews suffered, involved direct judgment from God. I do not say this in any way shape or form of course, to excuse persecution. Nevertheless, the testimony of Holy Scripture is that the Jews themselves became worse than the gentiles and or pagans when they steeped into apostasy. God used Israel as punishment upon the heathen nations for their wickedness when giving the promised land over to them, and the heathen nations as punishment upon Israel when they became worse than the heathen themselves. Such was the punishment they received at the hands of Rome, after rejecting their promised Messiah of the world. Which Messiah Himself, addressed their defilement of God's holy Sabbath with their unending rules, regulations, and burdensome requirements they had attached to it as well. There is a difference between unwarranted persecution, and the removal of God's protection unto judgement by His own workings as predicted by Him.

Christinas rightfully kept God's seventh day Sabbath for hundreds of years after Israel's rejection of our Lord. Persecution for such came about over time, as Christianity itself followed in the foot steps of apostasy which the Jews had before them. Eventually killing authentic Christians for seventh day Sabbath observance and other perceived wrongs, just as the Jews also killed their prophets and messengers during the days of their apostasies. This is a history which has repeated itself among God's professed people all throughout the history of this fallen world. Just as it is repeating itself today, as once biblically enlightened Christianity heads rapidly down the road back to mandated Roman Christianity. 


Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Tue Dec 16, 2025 - 10:00:15Many things which the Jews suffered, involved direct judgment from God. I do not say this in any way shape or form of course, to excuse persecution. Nevertheless, the testimony of Holy Scripture is that the Jews themselves became worse than the gentiles and or pagans when they steeped into apostasy. God used Israel as punishment upon the heathen nations for their wickedness when giving the promised land over to them, and the heathen nations as punishment upon Israel when they became worse than the heathen themselves. Such was the punishment they received at the hands of Rome, after rejecting their promised Messiah of the world. Which Messiah Himself, addressed their defilement of God's holy Sabbath with their unending rules, regulations, and burdensome requirements they had attached to it as well. There is a difference between unwarranted persecution, and the removal of God's protection unto judgement by His own workings as predicted by Him.

Christinas rightfully kept God's seventh day Sabbath for hundreds of years after Israel's rejection of our Lord. Persecution for such came about over time, as Christianity itself followed in the foot steps of apostasy which the Jews had before them. Eventually killing authentic Christians for seventh day Sabbath observance and other perceived wrongs, just as the Jews also killed their prophets and messengers during the days of their apostasies. This is a history which has repeated itself among God's professed people all throughout the history of this fallen world. Just as it is repeating itself today, as once biblically enlightened Christianity heads rapidly down the road back to mandated Roman Christianity. 


Hopefully the church and its brethren wont suffer 'removal of God's protection' as we get to these days 'such as never was', and the turmoil we will find in Satans hatred of those who follow God, and especially of those who worship on the day He made for man..

Amo

I would imagine something similar to the processes described in the following scriptures will take place again at the end of time. God used Ancient Babylon to punish apostate Old covenant Israel, He apparently will use New Covenant spiritual Babylon to punish New Covenant apostate spiritual Israel. May God give us grace, mercy, and strength not to be a part of either apostate spiritual Israel or fallen spiritual Babylon. As both will face the punishment His judgment.

Ezk 9:1 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? 9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. 10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head. 11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Thu Dec 18, 2025 - 08:33:34I would imagine something similar to the processes described in the following scriptures will take place again at the end of time. God used Ancient Babylon to punish apostate Old covenant Israel, He apparently will use New Covenant spiritual Babylon to punish New Covenant apostate spiritual Israel. May God give us grace, mercy, and strength not to be a part of either apostate spiritual Israel or fallen spiritual Babylon. As both will face the punishment His judgment.

Ezk 9:1 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? 9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. 10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head. 11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Hmm, didnt think about that, but Israel is taking a beating but I think God is still remembering them as they fight these forces...

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