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GOD'S NEW ISRAEL - Part 2

Started by Reformer, Wed Mar 11, 2026 - 23:40:58

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God's Israel Today
[Is National Israel Gods chosen & Holy Nation?]
[Part 2 of 3 Parts]


Important Notations
I pray these Essays on God's Israel will inspire you to reexamine this controversy. I also pray that if my consensus is off target and incorrect, God will reveal that to me in whatever form He chooses. But whatever route you take, agreeable or disagreeable, at least continue hearing me out. You will be no less my brother or sister in the Lord should you disagree. To reiterate, as I did in Part 1, National Israel in the Middle East has every right to defend herself against her enemies, those who want to "wipe her off the face of the earth." My target here is to convey the central idea from the Scriptures that current Israel in the Middle East is not God's community of the redeemed, the one body of believers, as noted by Paul in Ephesians 4:4.--Buff.
 
It is commendable that a few Evangelists are traveling to National Israel to share the Good News in an effort to convert them to Jesus the Messiah. But if Israel in the Middle East is God's Holy Nation and God's Chosen People, naturally or otherwise, as a few periodicals and magazines affirm incessantly, a vivid biblical conflict and collision surfaces. Please note that only redeemed believers are referred to as God's Holy Nation. "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own possession..." [I Peter 2:9]. The biblical communiqués relating to this do not embrace Israel in the Middle East.
 
It is emotionally upsetting when Evangelical Editors and their Staff, those who have adopted the doctrinal agendas of the Baptist factions relating to Israel in the Middle East, lend their allegiance to her because she is God's holy nation. They seem to enjoy taking pot-shots at those who cannot adopt their theological stance on natural Israel, and accuse us of being anti-Semitic. God has only one holy nation today, and she is the redeemed community or the one body of believers--not two bodies, but one. Yet these Evangelical Editors and their Staff point to a nation of non-believers, National Israel, and affirm she is God's holy entity. I envision this posture as non-biblical.
 
We can bless, support, and promote natural Israel until the "cows come home," but present-day Israel in the Middle East is not the ekklesia of the redeemed. In spite of those who promote her as God's holy nation, she is, per research, largely atheistic. So how in heaven's name can we bless and support a nation of non-believers? Yes, let it be said, however, that God has a remnant among the Jews in National Israel, as He has a remnant among all races. But to encourage Christian believers to bless and support a nation of non-believers is not an appropriate way to please God—in my opinion.
 
At this point, let it be said that God has not forsaken Jews. Nor has He forsaken Gentiles. He wants all of these races to come to His Son for deliverance and salvation. Romans 11 teaches a day is coming, assuming it hasn't come and gone, when Jews in large numbers will accept Jesus as their Messiah. This might possibly have occurred during the first century of the grace community, when innumerable Jews accepted Jesus as their Messiah. If this ensued, and it did, they were grafted in and became part of the one body of believers and part of God's holy nation.
 
Two-thousand years ago, Paul expressed it in these words, "And if they [Jews] do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again" (Rom. 11:23). If the Jews in natural/earthly Israel have not accepted Jesus as their Messiah, and it appears that, overall, they have not, then natural Israel has not been grafted in and should not be referred to as God's Holy People or God's Holy Nation.
 
Let's read from Paul again, "In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring" (Rom. 9:6-9). Then again, "A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly...No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly" (Rom. 2:28-29).
 
Paul's testimony is quite convincing. God no longer recognizes natural Israel as His elected nation and chosen people. Israel is still Gods elected nation, but not earthly Israel. It is the New Covenant Israel, the redeemed community. Again, Paul says, "Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly beloved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience" (Colossians 3:12 & 1 Peter 2:9).

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Part 3 & Its Importance
In our final column on this topic, we will address the Lord's coming in judgment upon the Jewish people and Jerusalem in A. D. 67-70, when rebellions Israel was demolished by the Roman Army, per biblical and national history. There was a universal massacre1,100,000 Jews perished, and 100,000 survivors were sold into slavery. This historical and horrible event was predicted in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, after which former Israel no longer prevailed, and new and current Israel, the redeemed community, superseded it. We'll explain next time around.--Buff.

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Quote from: Reformer on Wed Mar 11, 2026 - 23:40:58
God's Israel Today
[Is National Israel Gods chosen & Holy Nation?]
[Part 2 of 3 Parts]


Important Notations
I pray these Essays on God's Israel will inspire you to reexamine this controversy. I also pray that if my consensus is off target and incorrect, God will reveal that to me in whatever form He chooses. But whatever route you take, agreeable or disagreeable, at least continue hearing me out. You will be no less my brother or sister in the Lord should you disagree. To reiterate, as I did in Part 1, National Israel in the Middle East has every right to defend herself against her enemies, those who want to "wipe her off the face of the earth." My target here is to convey the central idea from the Scriptures that current Israel in the Middle East is not God's community of the redeemed, the one body of believers, as noted by Paul in Ephesians 4:4.--Buff.
 
It is commendable that a few Evangelists are traveling to National Israel to share the Good News in an effort to convert them to Jesus the Messiah. But if Israel in the Middle East is God's Holy Nation and God's Chosen People, naturally or otherwise, as a few periodicals and magazines affirm incessantly, a vivid biblical conflict and collision surfaces. Please note that only redeemed believers are referred to as God's Holy Nation. "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own possession..." [I Peter 2:9]. The biblical communiqués relating to this do not embrace Israel in the Middle East.
 
It is emotionally upsetting when Evangelical Editors and their Staff, those who have adopted the doctrinal agendas of the Baptist factions relating to Israel in the Middle East, lend their allegiance to her because she is God's holy nation. They seem to enjoy taking pot-shots at those who cannot adopt their theological stance on natural Israel, and accuse us of being anti-Semitic. God has only one holy nation today, and she is the redeemed community or the one body of believers--not two bodies, but one. Yet these Evangelical Editors and their Staff point to a nation of non-believers, National Israel, and affirm she is God's holy entity. I envision this posture as non-biblical.
 
We can bless, support, and promote natural Israel until the "cows come home," but present-day Israel in the Middle East is not the ekklesia of the redeemed. In spite of those who promote her as God's holy nation, she is, per research, largely atheistic. So how in heaven's name can we bless and support a nation of non-believers? Yes, let it be said, however, that God has a remnant among the Jews in National Israel, as He has a remnant among all races. But to encourage Christian believers to bless and support a nation of non-believers is not an appropriate way to please God—in my opinion.
 
At this point, let it be said that God has not forsaken Jews. Nor has He forsaken Gentiles. He wants all of these races to come to His Son for deliverance and salvation. Romans 11 teaches a day is coming, assuming it hasn't come and gone, when Jews in large numbers will accept Jesus as their Messiah. This might possibly have occurred during the first century of the grace community, when innumerable Jews accepted Jesus as their Messiah. If this ensued, and it did, they were grafted in and became part of the one body of believers and part of God's holy nation.
 
Two-thousand years ago, Paul expressed it in these words, "And if they [Jews] do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again" (Rom. 11:23). If the Jews in natural/earthly Israel have not accepted Jesus as their Messiah, and it appears that, overall, they have not, then natural Israel has not been grafted in and should not be referred to as God's Holy People or God's Holy Nation.
 
Let's read from Paul again, "In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring" (Rom. 9:6-9). Then again, "A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly...No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly" (Rom. 2:28-29).
 
Paul's testimony is quite convincing. God no longer recognizes natural Israel as His elected nation and chosen people. Israel is still Gods elected nation, but not earthly Israel. It is the New Covenant Israel, the redeemed community. Again, Paul says, "Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly beloved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience" (Colossians 3:12 & 1 Peter 2:9).

<><><>

Part 3 & Its Importance
In our final column on this topic, we will address the Lord's coming in judgment upon the Jewish people and Jerusalem in A. D. 67-70, when rebellions Israel was demolished by the Roman Army, per biblical and national history. There was a universal massacre1,100,000 Jews perished, and 100,000 survivors were sold into slavery. This historical and horrible event was predicted in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, after which former Israel no longer prevailed, and new and current Israel, the redeemed community, superseded it. We'll explain next time around.--Buff.


The hatred of the two as a witness of one--the beginning. The division of the first born Ishmael meaning wild man ..because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. And Isaac (God laughs )

I would offer My chosen People not my chosen race.(many error) should be-- My people are my second born not the first

As a foundation of the bride the church. Christ uses the witness of two Esau meaning hairy or covered the first born and Jacob meaning the deceiver or one that grabs the heel of the first born .

Esau having no value in the unseen eternal spiritual things of Christ-- our husband. Sold his first born birth rite for a big bowl of hairy goat stew then Jacob a picture of the old testament bride  It was then as it would seem the divorce battle  Jacob wrestling against against all mighty God and as the work of two Christ in Jacob the new Bride Israel having divorced Jacob. And to keep his promise of being the Holy Father of all the nations of the world .
In Isiah 62 he propmised to rename his Bride which he did in Acts the new name Christian a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations  Christian = residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for His bride named after her husband Christ . Make the name great again just like great America

Genesis 34:24-31 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face,(revealed knowledge to reeled knowledge)  and my life is preserved. And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.





   

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