Venting & Need Advice - In-Laws

[Petals]

  My husband just left to meet his family at a restaurant where they will be celebrating his sister's birthday.  I was invited, but didn't go for several reasons, the main one being that my in-laws refuse to acknowledge my birthday--ever!  Not with a phone call  or even a card, but they do celebrate everyone else's in the family.  It's as if I have no feelings.   

I attended the parties and dinners several times, but stopped.  I got tired of being treated rudely.  Once or twice, early in our marriage, my husband stood up to them and told them that he would not attend because they treated me disrespectfully.  The longer we're married, however, my feelings or opinion seem to matter less and less to him & he just attends the birthday dinners without me with barely a hesitation. 

As a Christian, I'm not sure what to do, other than what I'm already doing--remaining silent and just putting up with it.  It still hurts, though, to be made to feel like less of a person than those in their family.  I've always treated them with kindness, and they have no legitimate reason to dislike me other than that I married their son & brother. 

They treated my ex-brother-in-law the same way and he and my sister-in-law are now divorced after 23 yrs. of marriage.   Her live-in boyfriend  is supposed to be at the party tonight, too.  (She and her ex-husband were solid Christians at one time, but have backslidden in a big way.)

What should be the Christian response? 

(I should mention that because of my in-laws, our wedding was a disaster & being with them can cause a panic attack!)  They're just downright rude! 

Thanks for allowing me to vent.  I can't discuss this with my Christian friends, because they think my marriage is perfect & believe that if anyone has a problem they should just pray about it.  I sure could use some wise advice as sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.

[janine]

Of course you should pray about it!  So should we pray for you about it.

But as for practical strategies...

There's the "Suck it up and deal with it" school of thought.  After all this time I am sure you know these people are unbalanced weirdoes.  They are what they are.  After all these years I doubt you will ever change a one of them.

So where else can you go to get your affirmation?  Girlfriends, I guess.

Or develop a new network of friends unrelated to church or family.

Like maybe you could pick up a steady volunteer job at the hospital or an activity center for the elderly or the mentally challenged.  Someplace where you are very much needed and wanted and where you can do the Lord's work -- not because you want the pat on the back, but because you want to know people who would be the type to give you one!  See what I mean, see the difference?

The closest thing I can come up with from my own experience is the way some of my relatives reacted and spoke regarding my middle sister -- because she was a blonde, and olive-skinned, in the midst of a bunch of dark-haired Cajuns.  In some ways I felt the same sort of letdown and disappointment in the people around me that you are describing -- even though I was small and maybe too young to reason it out very well.

Even then, though, I did not think the best way to handle things was to kick up some kind of fuss and demand that I get the same exact equal treatment.  I tried to look at it with a wide lens, you might say.  I got one kind of attention, being the eldest and my father's "substitute boy".  Middle sister had her own troubles and disappointments, I am sure, even though she was "Jolie Blonde".  And baby sister with her big ice-blue baby doll eyes got her own sort of attention -- but had the bad parts as well, such as always being the baby.

I evaluate the way of life of the relatives who treated me that way -- and I see a lot of material gain, and a decorum and orderliness to the way their raising of their kids went.  You know, they tended to do all the expected things and finish the expected courses in school and mostly marry as expected... I guess they're happy. 

Their lives seem awfully bland though.  And inward-focused, immediate-family-focused.  Anyone marrying in who didn't fit the expected molds never has been quite accepted.  And those of my generation who didn't follow their preconceived paths have ever exactly been "in the loop" either.

I think you ought to go to those family gatherings.  It's not like you're not invited, right?  GO and have a good time.  Enjoy seeing the relatives you enjoy, and be glad it's only at an occasional birthday party that you have to see the ones you don't.

Have you ever thrown a party for any of them?

[Petals]

Thanks, Janine, for taking the time to reply.

I've never thrown any of them a birthday party as none live that close to us, and also, we have pets and two of my in-laws are allergic.  I have acknowledged their birthdays with cards and/or gifts, but they never even send "thank you" notes.  That goes for Christmas gifts they receive, as well.   

I started to elaborate on my other reasons for not attending these parties, but decided to delete it as it would be airing the family's dirty laundry.  Suffice it to say there is no one left at these gatherings that I enjoy seeing. 

As far as volunteering, I've done that for several years, but physical problems prevent me from doing it any longer.   I'm seeking God's healing touch so I can once again feel of use to the kingdom.

Thanks, again, for your advice.

[HRoberson]

You do not need to go if you don't want to.

However, you cannot hold it against your husband that he does go. They are his family, and they will always be his family. He's married to you, yes, but his formative years were with those jerks.

So, let him enjoy his sister's birthday, and you enjoy some nice chocolate and tea.

Or take yourself to a movie.

Or to a girlfriend's house.

Or a nice soak in the tub with that perfumed water, some candles, and some tea.

[janine]

And don't think you're not of immense use to The Kingdom just because you're not all physical like you used to be.

My little round dumpling of a mother-in-law, with her oxygen tanks and her arthritis, has quite the encouragement ministry going with her telephone calls and an occasional note card.

I tell you, when that little woman finally goes off to her reward, she will leave a big, big, big hole in the lives of everyone around her.

And I'd be airing a whole laundromat of dirty linen if I told you all the horrible nasty brutish disappointing things that have come to her over her lifetime from her relatives (not my bunch, no, thank God -- other relatives).

I ain't trying to tell you what to do or belittle your pain, not at all -- I am trying to empower you, by reminding you of what IS under your own control -- and to encourage you, by reminding you that you are very very important to God, and still very much a tool fit for His hand if you will allow Him to use you in new and different ways.

XOXOX sugar-lump!

[Petals]

Thanks, H.R., for your suggestions.   

I always encourage my husband to visit his family and to spend as much time as possible with them because they are his family.  My parents are both dead, so I realize how important it is to love them while you can. 

It's the birthday celebrations he attends that bug me.   I feel he has set a pattern for their behavior by not being supportive of me.  I feel he should refuse to attend until they begin to treat me like his wife, not just some tramp. 

The first year we were married my SIL sent not one, but 3 birthday cards to my husband in big, bold print.   I laughed it off then, but now, after several years of not being on the receiving end of birthday hoopla, it's not funny anymore. 

I should add that my family while growing up always made a big deal out of birthdays and anyone who married into the family was treated just as special.  I guess that's why this  situation bothers me so much today.   

[janine]

It might be that the issue isn't his family's weirdness, then, but that you don't feel valuable to him.

[Petals]

And don't think you're not of immense use to The Kingdom just because you're not all physical like you used to be.

.........I ain't trying to tell you what to do or belittle your pain, not at all -- I am trying to empower you, by reminding you of what IS under your own control -- and to encourage you, by reminding you that you are very very important to God, and still very much a tool fit for His hand if you will allow Him to use you in new and different ways.

XOXOX sugar-lump!

THANK YOU!  I REALLY needed to hear that.  You made me cry as it was what I've been very concerned about.  I used to be in the ministry and travelled to faraway places whenever God led, and now having to be confined to the house most days can certainly make a person feel of little use to God's kingdom.   

[Petals]

It might be that the issue isn't his family's weirdness, then, but that you don't feel valuable to him.

WOW, Janine!  You may be right!  I'd never thought of it that way before.  Thanks!

[janine]

Shucks, this is the first place I start when I examine my attitudes and worries.

Has my husband polished my pedestal enough lately?  Where's the chocolates and roses? Hmmm...

[kalen]

It's the birthday celebrations he attends that bug me.   I feel he has set a pattern for their behavior by not being supportive of me.  I feel he should refuse to attend until they begin to treat me like his wife, not just some tramp. 

The first year we were married my SIL sent not one, but 3 birthday cards to my husband in big, bold print.   I laughed it off then, but now, after several years of not being on the receiving end of birthday hoopla, it's not funny anymore. 

Have you told your husband this?  He may know indirectly, but how about telling him DIRECTLY.  Lovingly.... but directly.

[Petals]

Kalen,  Yes, I've talked it over with my husband more than a few times over the years.  He just blows it off and seems to value what his family thinks about this more than what I do.    He also loves the salmon, lobster or steak he can order at the birthday dinners.     (His family is very well-to-do & can afford it.)

[janine]

Aha!

Maybe he goes to the family birthday dinners the way some folks go to casinos.

They may not have any problems gambling, but they can take it or leave it -- what they really go for is the fantastic food and the exciting entertainment from music stars and Broadway stuff at the big casinos.

[Arkstfan]

It's the birthday celebrations he attends that bug me.   I feel he has set a pattern for their behavior by not being supportive of me.  I feel he should refuse to attend until they begin to treat me like his wife, not just some tramp. 

Why have him boycott? That brings more strife.

Why not ask him to man up and FIX the situation.

He, I am sure, is aware of when your birthday takes place, I would expect he knows how a calendar functions.

When the calendar reaches that point 4 to 6 weeks prior to your birthday, I would supposed he knows how a telephone works and can use it. Why doesn't he call his family and get the ball rolling on a celebration for you? If they don't want to participate then they've made their position quite clear and he needs to ask himself about remaining engaged in a family that rejects the person he has vowed to cleave to and forsake all others for.

[seeking_him]

true, that could have been my original post. My husband and I have been married for 15 years this summer and while my MIL acknowledged my birthday with a card for the first few, she stopped several years ago. Just stopped. Everyone else in the family is remembered, just not me. I'm sure you are one of few who understand how that hurts.

I go to their celebrations as it's usually for the kids. I haven't really gone for my sisters in law or either of hubby's parents. I think I'd side with Arkstfan, though. Your husband should take care of this situation. And if it can't be fixed, if his family still treats you that way, he should not be going without you. That's part of "leaving and cleaving." If he's still going and not trying to fix things for you, you should be concerned about how things are going in your marriage and leave problems with the inlaws for later.

[Petals]

It's the birthday celebrations he attends that bug me.   I feel he has set a pattern for their behavior by not being supportive of me.  I feel he should refuse to attend until they begin to treat me like his wife, not just some tramp. 

Why have him boycott? That brings more strife.

Why not ask him to man up and FIX the situation.

He, I am sure, is aware of when your birthday takes place, I would expect he knows how a calendar functions.

When the calendar reaches that point 4 to 6 weeks prior to your birthday, I would supposed he knows how a telephone works and can use it. Why doesn't he call his family and get the ball rolling on a celebration for you? If they don't want to participate then they've made their position quite clear and he needs to ask himself about remaining engaged in a family that rejects the person he has vowed to cleave to and forsake all others for.

He tried to fix the situation once a few years ago, when he asked his dad directly why they always ignore my birthday.  The reply:  "I forget when it is." (Ironically, my husband and I have birthdays just a few days apart.  It's not that hard to forget.)     

As far as having a celebration for me--it will never happen.  My husband is very self-absorbed, and hasn't a clue as to what a woman needs to keep her happy.  He also wouldn't know where to begin planning a party.  I also doubt he'd want to do it as his free time is limited due to his work schedule. 

As far as removing himself from a family that rejects the one he vowed to cleave to; he'd never do that.  He values their opinion over mine, and it grows worse as time goes on.  Growing up as the baby of the family, he's also easily manipulated by them.

At times, I swear I'm wearing a "kick me" sign.  Because I'm a Christian, I put up with a whole lot more than most people would.   Suffering in silence at home is the way I deal with most problems as it doesn't do any good to fuss.    Nothing ever changes. 

Since I'm now really upset about this situation, what do I do? --turn to a message board of strangers for a solution.   At least by venting here, it's a pressure release. 

[Petals]

true, that could have been my original post. My husband and I have been married for 15 years this summer and while my MIL acknowledged my birthday with a card for the first few, she stopped several years ago. Just stopped. Everyone else in the family is remembered, just not me. I'm sure you are one of few who understand how that hurts.

I go to their celebrations as it's usually for the kids. I haven't really gone for my sisters in law or either of hubby's parents. I think I'd side with Arkstfan, though. Your husband should take care of this situation. And if it can't be fixed, if his family still treats you that way, he should not be going without you. That's part of "leaving and cleaving." If he's still going and not trying to fix things for you, you should be concerned about how things are going in your marriage and leave problems with the inlaws for later.

I'm sorry that you're having the same problems, and I do understand how much it hurts when you're made to feel like your life doesn't count.   

Your comment about being concerned about how things are going in my marriage was a good one.  We normally get along quite well, with few differences.  I realize that the few major disagreements we have are always due to the same problem--his family.  They've been rude through the years, and as I mentioned before, they even ruined our wedding day.  Now things worsen whenever my husband goes off to the birthday celebrations.  He's becoming more like them in his behavior the longer we're married.  He figures I'll get over being upset as I always have.  What can a wife do when her husband just does what he wants with little regard for her feelings?  Not a whole lot.  You just learn to put up with it.       Unfortunately, it doesn't describe the more abundant life the Lord promised.

And...I'd been wondering why I'm been in a deep depression lately.     Guess this explains it.

[janine]

Have you found a counselor, preferably a Christian one?

[kalen]

Is there anything stopping you from throwing YOURSELF a party?  If it's so imporant to you, make a way -- invite your in-laws (or don't), but put your foot down and insist that your hubby is there, goggling over his one and only wife.

I highly recommend Stormie Omartian's book The Power of a Praying Wife.  It's a real eye-opener for us angry, resentful women (I should know, I'm one of them very often).

[Jaime]

trueblue, it's probably a male thing, but I always go for the confrontational route. If I am feeling slighted, I approach the offending parties and either shame them into apologizing and correcting their offensive behavior or I solidify the chasm between us. No gray areas. If something is worth getting upset about, it is worth confronting the "upsetter".

[Petals]

Is there anything stopping you from throwing YOURSELF a party?  If it's so imporant to you, make a way -- invite your in-laws (or don't), but put your foot down and insist that your hubby is there, goggling over his one and only wife.

I highly recommend Stormie Omartian's book The Power of a Praying Wife.  It's a real eye-opener for us angry, resentful women (I should know, I'm one of them very often).

When you put it that way, it makes me feel foolish and quite selfish to be worried about just a stupid birthday.  God thought it important enough to create me, and that should be enough.  There are also much more important things in life to worry about.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the fact that I'm so angry and resentful.  I have no right to feel that way.  It is a wrong attitude, and will promptly repent.

[Petals]

trueblue, it's probably a male thing, but I always go for the confrontational route. If I am feeling slighted, I approach the offending parties and either shame them into apologizing and correcting their offensive behavior or I solidify the chasm between us. No gray areas. If something is worth getting upset about, it is worth confronting the "upsetter".

Jaime, as Christians are we allowed to "confront?"  I'm not very good at it.  Always get the feeling that if I do, I'll be booted out of their lives forever as my feelings won't matter enough to them.

[Petals]

Have you found a counselor, preferably a Christian one?

Not that easy.  Don't think that I haven't thought of it.  There are none in my area.

[Jaime]

trueblue, it's probably a male thing, but I always go for the confrontational route. If I am feeling slighted, I approach the offending parties and either shame them into apologizing and correcting their offensive behavior or I solidify the chasm between us. No gray areas. If something is worth getting upset about, it is worth confronting the "upsetter".

Jaime, as Christians are we allowed to "confront?"  I'm not very good at it.  Always get the feeling that if I do, I'll be booted out of their lives forever as my feelings won't matter enough to them.

Trueblue, I apologize for my "advice". I'm not saying it is a Christian response, but it is how I respond in those situations. It may be that your inlaws are just forgetful, but it sounds like they are probably knowingly being insensitive. My natural man does not allow me to ignore that kind of behavior. You are probably better off following some of the other advice given on this thread. 

I will be praying that you handle it well and everything works out.

Jaime

PS, for what it's worth, remember Jesus was pretty confrontational to the pharisees. You know that whole den of vipers and white washed sepulchre thing.

[kalen]

Is there anything stopping you from throwing YOURSELF a party?  If it's so imporant to you, make a way -- invite your in-laws (or don't), but put your foot down and insist that your hubby is there, goggling over his one and only wife.

I highly recommend Stormie Omartian's book The Power of a Praying Wife.  It's a real eye-opener for us angry, resentful women (I should know, I'm one of them very often).

When you put it that way, it makes me feel foolish and quite selfish to be worried about just a stupid birthday.  God thought it important enough to create me, and that should be enough.  There are also much more important things in life to worry about.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the fact that I'm so angry and resentful.  I have no right to feel that way.  It is a wrong attitude, and will promptly repent.

Well, now.... I didn't say you were foolish.  I merely attempted to point out that when things are important to us, we can't expect others to feel the same way.  If your birthday is so important to you (I understand, it's important to me too), make plans for it:  go out on a date (with nice hotel and overnight babysitter included);  go out with friends; heck, I've even done dinner and a movie with just me, myself and God -- and it's suprisingly quite a liberating thing, taking God on a date.  :o)  I only meant that when things are important to us, we can ask for support, but we cannot demand or expect support -- and in the absence of that, we have God and His love for us, and our own selves and imagination.

And anger serves a valuable purpose:  it can spurn us into action.  But when we allow it to turn into resentment (and I understand that all too well myself) it does become sin.  Seriously, I recommend that book -- I'm reading it now 'cause I'm having my own marital "junk", and from one woman to another, it's a real blessing.  :o)

[Petals]

Kalen,  I know you didn't say I was foolish.  It's just that as I read your reply, it was me who felt that way because as I read it, the insignificance of the problem really hit me.  There are so many other more important things to worry about and I shouldn't sweat the small stuff.  It's a birthday, not the Holocaust.   Thanks for your input.

[Petals]

trueblue, it's probably a male thing, but I always go for the confrontational route. If I am feeling slighted, I approach the offending parties and either shame them into apologizing and correcting their offensive behavior or I solidify the chasm between us. No gray areas. If something is worth getting upset about, it is worth confronting the "upsetter".

Jaime, as Christians are we allowed to "confront?"  I'm not very good at it.  Always get the feeling that if I do, I'll be booted out of their lives forever as my feelings won't matter enough to them.

Trueblue, I apologize for my "advice". I'm not saying it is a Christian response, but it is how I respond in those situations. It may be that your inlaws are just forgetful, but it sounds like they are probably knowingly being insensitive. My natural man does not allow me to ignore that kind of behavior. You are probably better off following some of the other advice given on this thread. 

I will be praying that you handle it well and everything works out.

Jaime

PS, for what it's worth, remember Jesus was pretty confrontational to the pharisees. You know that whole den of vipers and white washed sepulchre thing.

Thanks, Jaime, for your openness and for taking the time to respond.  No need to apologize.  After thinking about it, I realize that confrontation (within reason)  is healthier than letting things fester inside.  Unresolved hurts and anger can make a person ill.  If you do confront someone who has hurt you, it can clear the air quickly, instead of having it build a wall between you brick by brick.   

I'm choosing to let things "fester" because when I've confronted my husband in the past, nothing ever changed, so I now just "let it go."  It doesn't help with my health, but it is what I do to cope.  I'm trying to avoid a divorce.

[janine]

"Let go" does not mean the same thing as "fester".

You might consider this -- if those folks are either being
#1 intentionally devaluing and intentionally insensitive --
or
#2 they really do without thinking about it, devalue you and your feelings that way --

Either angle --

It comes out to the same thing.

You don't need to worry too much about confrontation blowing things up and you being no longer a real, integral, working part of their lives, if either one of those two things is true.

If either one of those two things is true, then you are already not exactly a great big important part of their lives.

Don't define your life or your worth or anything else that is yours, by them.

Sure, if you find yourself in a position where one of them has a need and you can sacrificially fill it -- be Christlike.  Like maybe one of them will develop cancer and get to a place in their treatment/condition where they really need a weekly ride to their treatments -- or maybe a basic housecleaning  done for them weekly -- If you can help and serve in that way, do it.  You'd do it for a new neighbor/acquaintance/co-worker, if you could, right?

But other than the chance to "be Jesus" that might later on come up in their lives, simply do not concern yourself about them any more.  Some of the way they are they've had handed to them by their parents and grandparents.  They were raised that way.  A greater portion of how they are they have decided, as adults, to live out.  They've chosen their ways.

So you choose yours.  Choose "happy" -- or at least "content", which is what makes "happy" possible.  Do the next right thing and keep on keeping on.

It may be they (including your husband) will not change, ever, until they die.

In which case they will have to deal with the Lord re: all their wasted opportunities.

As will we all.

Don't waste yours.

Live!

[Nevertheless]

Seriously, I recommend that book -- I'm reading it now 'cause I'm having my own marital "junk", and from one woman to another, it's a real blessing.  :o)

I second that recommendation.  I'm currently teaching a class on Wed. nights at our church, and that's the book we're using.

So you've vented here with us, but have you considered venting to God?  Have you told Him just how mad you are at all of these people and how hurt you are by your husbands's actions?  Tell Him, and don't mince words!  He can take it!  Just remember, you can't change your husband, but God can!

[Jaime]

trueblue, it's probably a male thing, but I always go for the confrontational route. If I am feeling slighted, I approach the offending parties and either shame them into apologizing and correcting their offensive behavior or I solidify the chasm between us. No gray areas. If something is worth getting upset about, it is worth confronting the "upsetter".

Jaime, as Christians are we allowed to "confront?"  I'm not very good at it.  Always get the feeling that if I do, I'll be booted out of their lives forever as my feelings won't matter enough to them.

Trueblue, I apologize for my "advice". I'm not saying it is a Christian response, but it is how I respond in those situations. It may be that your inlaws are just forgetful, but it sounds like they are probably knowingly being insensitive. My natural man does not allow me to ignore that kind of behavior. You are probably better off following some of the other advice given on this thread. 

I will be praying that you handle it well and everything works out.

Jaime

PS, for what it's worth, remember Jesus was pretty confrontational to the pharisees. You know that whole den of vipers and white washed sepulchre thing.

Thanks, Jaime, for your openness and for taking the time to respond.  No need to apologize.  After thinking about it, I realize that confrontation (within reason)  is healthier than letting things fester inside.  Unresolved hurts and anger can make a person ill.  If you do confront someone who has hurt you, it can clear the air quickly, instead of having it build a wall between you brick by brick.   

I'm choosing to let things "fester" because when I've confronted my husband in the past, nothing ever changed, so I now just "let it go."  It doesn't help with my health, but it is what I do to cope.  I'm trying to avoid a divorce.

Trueblue, I think letting things fester is definitely more of a female trait than male. The trick in confronting is bulldog tenacity. Guys are just too thick headed most of the time. I agree with my wife that husbands HAVE to be trained, by their wives, in the way they should go. Being sensitive and responsive is not a naturally occuring phenomenom in men. When my wife and I were first married, she would get frustrated and sulk and I never recognized what set her off. Finally she resorted to plain and simple communication like, "Listen, this is how it is going to be........" In a lot of cases she was right, it just took getting hit up side the head with a 2 by 4. Husbands are like old mules, once you have their attention they perform pretty well thereafter.

[Petals]

Janine, I know for a fact that my in-laws do what you stated as #1 intentionally devaluing and intentionally insensitive.  They are very intelligent people and know exactly what they're doing.  I mean, how hard is it to remember a birthday, or not ruin a wedding? 

I am nice to them and am cordial, trying to see their better qualities.  I have visited my father-in-law when he was hospitalized, but as far as cleaning their house, that isn't necessary, as they pay someone to do that. 

Jaime,  It's nice to get a man's point of view.  The difference with you and my husband is that YOU are willing to change and it's obvious that your wife's feelings matter to you.  You want to work at your marriage.   My husband seems to think that if he ignores this problem, it will go away all by itself.  It's just swept under the rug, until the rug gets too lumpy and I trip over it.       

Kalen,  The book you recommended sounds like a good one, but I'm at a weird place in my Christian walk.  It's a place I've never been before, where I'm questioning everything I've ever been taught about things of the Lord.  I feel numb and powerless and doubt that what I read would even help now, but thanks for the suggestion. 

[Jaime]

Trueblue, I am praying that your husband will wake up. Of course I don't know your husband, but I suspect that if you assert yourself and have a "come to Jesus" conversation with him you might be surprised. Men are like little kids in that bad behavior left unchecked will only get worse.

Some might consider me to be "hen-pecked" for some of my views and statements. All I know is that I am a better man because of my wife correcting some faulty behavior in me. I think she is a better wife because of me helping her see the light on some things. You know the old iron sharpening iron thing. Like someone said once, marriage is not a 50/50 deal, it is 100/100.

[Petals]

Jaime,

If your wife ever decides to throw you back in the dating pool, there are several women on this board who would like to fish you out.     Guys like you are hard to find. 

SMILE!  Let me  take your picture so my hubby can see a picture of what a husband should be like.       Seriously, I think it's wonderful that you're obeying Christ's command to love your wife as He loved the church.  God will bless you both for always being willing to work things out and not quitting until the difficult matters are resolved.

Be blessed!  And...I'm glad you're both staying True Blue to each other!   

[Jaime]

Thanks Trueblue, For what it's worth, my picture is on My New Blog

[Petals]

Thanks Trueblue, For what it's worth, my picture is on My New Blog

OHMIGOSH, JAIME!!!  I think we're related!!!  I have teeth that look exactly like yours, believe it or not!!!  Too funny!!!    You -->>    Me-->>