I Know That Not All Men Are the Same, but Please Give me a Break Lord!

[angeleyes]

Hello all,

Lately I have been feeling a little depressed about my relationship circumstances.
I feel as though every man that I meet is either mean and rude to me or wants to sleep with me and most of the time they are guys that I am in no way attracted to(especially since they are mean and rude and want to sleep with me). Besides that they are usually not my type, wether it's their looks or personality.

Is it just me or do most guys have the same type of personality? To me the mediocrity of their behavior and mentality are just a complete turn off to me and I find it to be very discouraging.

None of them seem to have a mind of their own  and they are not God-fearing men. Even the ones in church have funky attitudes. Yesterday I told my mother that I will give it one more year in this state(MA) and then I am going to consider relocating because the men here are horrible, mean, insensitive, evil, lying, good for nothing bums who not have respect for women and they sure as heck have no respect or love for God.

I mean I have been told that I am attractive and I have a great personality and somewhat of a good sense of humor, but why hasn't God blessed me to come into the right place at the right time for a husband material type of man.


I met this man on the bus driver on the bus today and I gave him my number and he called me and we talked for maybe five minutes and in the course of the conversation he was swearing an awful lot, which does bother me but who am I to say anything because I struggle with smoking cigarettes and plus he has three kids.



I am just feeling very frustrated and discouraged about the whole situation.

Please give me your feedback, it would be very helpful to me.

Thanks and Love Ya
AE

[archaeologist]

I mean I have been told that I am attractive and I have a great personality and somewhat of a good sense of humor, but why hasn't God blessed me to come into the right place at the right time for a husband material type of man.

maybe you need to learn to seek His kingdom first and once you do you will find that you will be led to the right man.

Is it just me or do most guys have the same type of personality? To me the mediocrity of their behavior and mentality are just a complete turn off to me and I find it to be very discouraging.

no, they just have the same desire concerning women.  i remember a statement made on the original Law & Order series many years ago  where the asst. d.a. was questioning a school principle and the principal says: 'we teach the girls to say no...etc' and the d.a. responds--'what are the boys taught?'  the principal was silent.

you will find that boys are taught different things about women and rarely are they taught how to treat a lady properly. being a gentleman has gone out of style and getting 'notches on the gun' has taken over. 

it is a sad testimony of the church but i agree with you about christian men, many let their desires rule instead of behaving like Christ would want.  i would reccommend that you start planning your relocation but remember this sinful desires are the same all over the world and you will run into more of the same no matter where you go.

just focus on serving God and trust Him to lead you to the right man.

[janine]

Yeah, you cannot find any place on this Earth where all the men you meet are perfect models of a Christian man.  Especially if you are out there in the world not looking at Christian men in the first place.

What would have been wrong with saying to the bus driver dude, when he called, "Hey, you seem like a great guy -- or else I wouldn't have given you my phone number! -- but strong language really makes me uncomfortable.  You don't know me, so it might seem like I'm dissing you if I ask you to tone it down -- and I really don't mean to do that, like I said, you seem like a great guy -- so, would you mind not cursing?"

[angeleyes]

Thank you both for your advice.

I actually don't talk to the bus driver guy anymore.

Especially if you are out there in the world not looking at Christian men in the first place.

In response to your statement, I do look for Christian men. It's just that the ones that approach me are usually more interested in me than the Christian men. Most of the Christian men that I meet act the same way as the non-Christian men that I meet and this is part of the whole reason why I chose to do this topic.

One would think that the ones claiming to be Christians would behave more like Christ , but that is not the case. Like the good book says"If we are scarcely saved , then where does that leave the sinner" I hope that I quoted that scripture correctly and I apologize if I didn't.

All that I am saying is that all that I keep meeting are horrible men who don't know how to treat a woman first and foremost and they aren't practicing what they preach.
The men that I come across are, I hate to say it, but losers.

So I guess what I am trying to figure out is were men taught to have a losers mentality in the way that they think and behave.

archaeologist,

I know that you said that men were taught certain things about women ,but so what.
These are grown men who go along with every and anything that they are sold.
I grew up learning many different things about men, but were they all right? No.
So I learned things about men by my experiences and also because I have something called a mind of my own that God through Christ has shaped and molded.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I am by any means perfect, but as a Christian women I have come a long way and it's because the Spirit of God has changed my perspective about everything and is still in the process of transforming me. So there is no excuse for these so-called Christian men to still believe the things that they were taught about women and allow themselves to be brainwashed by all of the media' s propaganda and by the ignorant people they are around.

[david johnson]

'Is it just me or do most guys have the same type of personality? To me the mediocrity of their behavior and mentality are just a complete turn off to me and I find it to be very discouraging.'

many of us could pose the same rhetoric regarding women.

dj

[angeleyes]

many of us could pose the same rhetoric regarding women.

dj

Hi DJ,

I am in no way male bashing, I'm just expressing how I feel from my own perspective. I know that women have their issues as well, but this doesn't really apply to me as far as romantic relationships are concerned. I know that I am not perfect, but like I said and maybe you feel the same way about women that they are not all the same, but I'm tired of running into the same types of men like you women. I don't know if you are married or not, but I am single and am praying that God will send me my husband if it be His will.
Women have needs too!

[archaeologist]

I am in no way male bashing

i think you are and i think you want an ideal man

I know that you said that men were taught certain things about women ,but so what

what i said was to aid your understanding which would go along way in your ferretting through the many men you attract.

it is well known that Christian men can be worse than non-christians you just are going tohave to be patient for maybe God is telling you their are things in your life that need adjusting before you get the right man.

Women have needs too

right----for the man to have a fat and bottomless wallet. (snicker)

I don't know if you are married or not, but I am single and am praying  that God will send me my husband if it be His will

well i hope you get one.

[angeleyes]

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I am in no way male bashing

i think you are and i think you want an ideal man

First things first, I am not male bashing and if I came off alittle too strongly and sound like I'm male bashing, then i apologize.

Secondly, I am merely expressing my frustration about the men that i have come in contact with not all men because like the title of this topic says I know that not All Men are the Same.

I know that not all men are the same not because I have been exposed to them, but because I know that I and other women are not the same as some other women that give women a bad name. So this brings me to the conclusion that all men must not be the same too.

Although I haven't met any genuinely nice men yet I still have hope that they are out there somewhere.


You know a lot of people say that women date their fathers and if this is the case then I am in trouble and have been for some time now. My father was a dog and because of his irresponsible behavior, he is dead now and my mom hasn't been the same since he died. I've been coming across men who are a lot like my father and I don't want to marry a man like my father. I guess that I'm scared that I will make the same mistake that my mother did by marrying my father.

You've got to admitt that it is scarey when you keep running into men who who are like your father, especially when your father was my father.

So no disrespect to the men that are on these forums, it's just that I have had a lot of bad experiences w/men including my father.

So I hope that other members of the forums will understand where I'm coming from.

[archaeologist]

You know a lot of people say that women date their fathers

i do not believe that though there are women who look for men who will treat them like their fathers did.

it's just that I have had a lot of bad experiences w/men including my father.

everyone gets those and you know the world is not like it was 20-30 years ago, even the church has its problems as more and more people do not believe what God writes about how to treat others.

i know a lot of christian men who go by the  phrase 'i ain't dead yet' and that to me is a disgrace for believers to live by when it comes to women.

[janine]

You know a lot of people say that women date their fathers

i do not believe that though there are women who look for men who will treat them like their fathers did.

That's what she said.

[angeleyes]

it is well known that Christian men can be worse than non-christians you just are going tohave to be patient for maybe God is telling you their are things in your life that need adjusting before you get the right man.

Well I know for a fact that there are things that the Lord needs to adjust in my life before and after He sends me the right man in my life. I guess that the question that I have and will continue to ask God is what is HE showing me through these bad men that I have come across. I believe that the answer is to not date men who are anything like my father and to keep trusting and believing in Him to send me the right man that He wills for me to be with, not my will, but his will be done in the name of Jesus and in His time and not my own time.

I know that i am not the only woman who has and is feeling this way, but some don't like to admit or are even in touch w/their feelings believe it or not. Although people say that women only act out of emotions a lot of women are scared to show them and some women are more in touch with their feelings than others are. Many women are scared of marrying their fathers because there are a lot of dysfunctional families out there.

The only type of man that i want to be with is a man that is like my heavenly father and not like my earthly father.

[Bon Voyage]

I think you are stressing yourself out worrying about this. 

[janine]

It is a lot easier to get a good job when you already have a job -- in my opinion that "works" (all possible puns intended) because you are at ease and not stressing over getting a new job.  it's almost an attitude of "I am comfortable in my own skin, if God leaves me in this state forever that's alright with me, I will work on my own contentment and happiness and joy" (three different things).

The longed-for rain usually does not come until after you wash all the mud off your car.

You usually do not find that set of keys, glasses, etc., that you misplaced, until you swallow your pride and ask for someone else's help to find the thing.  And even then they usually don't even have to help you search -- for some reason the lost item mysteriously turns up as soon as you allow yourself to ask for help.

Probably somewhat the same principles involved in "getting" a good man.

Go where good men go.  Work in a soup kitchen.  Ride in a motorcycle event that is a fundraiser for crippled or abused children or a charity hospital.  Volunteer at a Veteran's hospital.

And keep praying.

[angeleyes]

Gary and janine,

You both have made some very good and valid points and I would like to say thank you your replies.

I just feel at times that I'm never going to find the right man, but like my mother often times tells me that I am not supposed to be looking for him he is supposed to look for me and find me.

One thing that I definitely need is more patience.

I personally think that it is because I started dating so young and now it seems like I've been waiting for the right one forever. I just counted in my mind and realized that I have been dating for about 15 years now. WOW I can't believe that. For more than half of those years I wasn't saved. I feel as though all of these men were a waste of my time, but I have also learned from them as well.

[Jon-Marc]

No, ALL men do NOT have that personality. I've had nothing but bad experiences with women and could ask, " Are all women like that?" However, that's generalization--like those who believe that all unmarried men are sleaze bags. I've been a born again Christian since I was 17 and have NEVER wanted to jump into bed with any woman to whom I wasn't married, and I never have. My first wife was a slut who gave herself to any man who would have her. My second wife constantly criticized everything I said and everything I did, and I mean EVERYTHING!

Yes, it's turned me against wanting anyone, but it's not because I think ALL women are like that. It's just that I realized that I'm not meant to be married and should have stayed single. Actually, it IS my personality that keeps me from tolerating people for very long. I was left alone a lot as a child and never learned how to get along with others, and I don't enjoy anyone's company as much as I do my own. I'm too used to being alone and having everything my way. I grew up on conflict between my parents (when they were at home) and don't like conflict. Being alone avoids that.

[janine]

(This message board medium seems tailor-made for you then, ((Jon-Marc)), because when you feel like communicating, here is the conversation -- and when you feel like being alone in your own head for a while you can go off and do your thing, and come back later.)

It is real easy for me to tell you the relax about it, girlfriend, since I have been married for, what, 26 years now... But, really, I do have some good ground to stand on to tell you that -- because being married has its down sides too, as Paul mentioned.

All I can say is, I know you feel that you have a lot to offer to a man in a marriage, so unless God has other ideas, I hope and pray you find a good man.

[angeleyes]

This is just a thought.

For the longest time, I had a problem with letting my past go and I am just now learning how and when to let go of the past. I believe that me holding on to my past has stopped and maybe even has hindered me from receiving my husband.

With that said, maybe , just, maybe I have been running into the same men because I keep holding on to the same men from my past. So for any reader who is having the same problem as I have been having, it is time to let him/her go. This means and includes forgiving them and not comparing the next man/woman with your ex('s).

Just some food for thought.

[janine]

You know what a Marley-chain is?  I think we all wear them, unless we start to realize it and make a special effort to get rid of them with the Lord's help.

[angeleyes]

You know what a Marley-chain is?  I think we all wear them, unless we start to realize it and make a special effort to get rid of them with the Lord's help.

[Mr. J]

"My father was a dog "

the above quote from a few entries back...  Wow, what a respectful Christian Woman!  What ever happened to "Honor thy father and mother?"  I thought that was a commandment, not an optional thing.  If a person cannot honor her parents, how can she honor a husband?

I think the root of the subject at hand is deeper than finding Mr. Right.  We live in a country where the Christian divorce rate is higher than the secular divorce rate.  We're taught the secular way that both genders are the same, think the same, etcetera.  Many women wouldn't  know a good man if she tripped over him because she hasn't been taught that men are different from women, don't think the same, don't desire the same way, don't have the same set of responsibilities.  How many women have I heard complain that men have desire for her?  Well, that's because men are not women.  If a man had no desire for you, then you'd be unhappy in that case also, yes?

The same goes for American men.  They are typically taught in the same secular fashion.  Men, especially Christian men, are not often taught the expectations and responsibilities of their gender any more than women are.

Neither men nor women in the US are generally taught appropriate roles and responsibilities for their gender.  It is appalling that proper gender roles are not stressed in the Christian community.  After all, the Bible is very clear on the subject.

So, I suggest the lack of decent men coincides with the lack of decent women.  A lack of Christian upbringing in general is the case in this country..... sometimes especially in "church" families.

Jim

[angeleyes]

Hello and Happy Thanksgiving Mr. J,

Thank you for your comments and I did honor my father when he was alive, but the truth is the truth regardless if he was my father or not. He was what he was and his actions are part of the reason why I struggle with trusting men.

As for the rest of what you typed, I absolutely agree 100%. Men and women aren't taught the right things about each other and some aren't willing to be taught in their adulthood about each other.

IMO, God can and will lead and guide us on how to treat each other, if we will ask and allow Him to, but a lot of Christians as well as the secular world, especially the secular world don't necessarily agree with what God's veiws are regarding marriage and anything else for that matter. Yes even some Christians are set in their ways and aren't willing to allow God to change them and do His mighty work in their lives.

Let's face it a lot of people grew up in dysfunctional families and now our children and society are paying the price for it. So yes you are right, just as there are not enough good men there are also not enough good women because of their upbringings.
However, I know that I am a good women and have what it takes to be an excellent wife, mother, and above all an excellent Christian woman because my heavenly Father raised me the right way and is still teaching me things everyday.

[Brian Kelley]

I have found the best people for any sort of friendship when doing things that the Bible says we should all do.  I have met wonderful people working on Habitat for Humanity houses and passing out food, both those who we are helping and those with whom I am working.  While this probably shouldn't be anyone's motive for philanthropy, I'd say the best thing to do would be to open your eyes, ears, and heart while in the normal course of doing God's work (whatever it may be), and that may be where you find someone worth spending time with.  Just my  .

[angeleyes]

OK now I am convinced that I have bad luck with men, but otoh my friend has been having the same exact luck with men as I have been having.

This goes back to the bus driver guy. Everything was going so well. We started talking everyday and we would see each other at least once or twice a week depending on our schedules.

Until it dawned on me one day that I couldn't reach him on the weekend nights, which puzzles me. He kept telling me that he would come to church w/me, which still hasn't happened yet.

So after this revelation I decided to text message him about the situation, no response.
I said in the text message  "Please do not call me anymore", which I admit was the wrong way to deal with the issue at hand, but then I sent him two more tm's interogating him about there being someone else and why is it that I can only reach you at certain times on the weekend, in  particularly Sundays(one of his days off). Then I felt pretty bad about the tm's that I had sent him, so I sent him a third one apologizing for the other two and asking him to give me another chance.

Needless to say, he never called or tm'd me back. So assuming that he received all of the tm's I went down to the station that he works at to talk to him. So shortly after I saw him and spoke to him a little, mostly small talk, he explains to me that his phone is shut off and he hasn't been able to read the tm's. So I froze and the next thing that I know is that he told me that he had to go and get on a specific bus. However, I told him that I was going to get on that bus to talk to him some more and when I waited for that bus he wasn't on it nor was he on the buses that followed.

So now I don't know what to do because I really like this man a lot and we have been talking for almost 2 mos now. I have expressed to him how i feel. His phone is still off and there is no way for me to contact him. I'm afraid that I have in some way damaged the relationship and that maybe he does't want to talk to me anymore. I'm also kinda hurt that he lied to me about the whole bus situation. If he lied to me about that then who knows what else he has lied to me about.

Now do you see why I posted this thread.

I'll admit that there were times when I handled the situation a little imaturely, but people make mistakes and he has made some too that I have forgiven, so the least that he could do is forgive me.

Any helpful advice on what I should do now?

[Brian Kelley]

OK now I am convinced that I have bad luck with men, but otoh my friend has been having the same exact luck with men as I have been having.

This goes back to the bus driver guy. Everything was going so well. We started talking everyday and we would see each other at least once or twice a week depending on our schedules.

Until it dawned on me one day that I couldn't reach him on the weekend nights, which puzzles me. He kept telling me that he would come to church w/me, which still hasn't happened yet.

So after this revelation I decided to text message him about the situation, no response.
I said in the text message  "Please do not call me anymore", which I admit was the wrong way to deal with the issue at hand, but then I sent him two more tm's interogating him about there being someone else and why is it that I can only reach you at certain times on the weekend, in  particularly Sundays(one of his days off). Then I felt pretty bad about the tm's that I had sent him, so I sent him a third one apologizing for the other two and asking him to give me another chance.

Needless to say, he never called or tm'd me back. So assuming that he received all of the tm's I went down to the station that he works at to talk to him. So shortly after I saw him and spoke to him a little, mostly small talk, he explains to me that his phone is shut off and he hasn't been able to read the tm's. So I froze and the next thing that I know is that he told me that he had to go and get on a specific bus. However, I told him that I was going to get on that bus to talk to him some more and when I waited for that bus he wasn't on it nor was he on the buses that followed.

So now I don't know what to do because I really like this man a lot and we have been talking for almost 2 mos now. I have expressed to him how i feel. His phone is still off and there is no way for me to contact him. I'm afraid that I have in some way damaged the relationship and that maybe he does't want to talk to me anymore. I'm also kinda hurt that he lied to me about the whole bus situation. If he lied to me about that then who knows what else he has lied to me about.

Now do you see why I posted this thread.

I'll admit that there were times when I handled the situation a little imaturely, but people make mistakes and he has made some too that I have forgiven, so the least that he could do is forgive me.

Any helpful advice on what I should do now?

It can be very hard when we want something and cannot seem to have it.  I'd say make sure you give your problems to Jesus first.  Pray that God would help you find whatever path is His will for you.  Submit yourself as much as you can to God's will.  That's usually step one for me.  I find that if I don't get what I originally thought I wanted, I'll usually be happy getting something else or nothing at all, and find myself looking back glad that I didn't get that something.  I can't say that's how everyone works, but I can say that God will guide whoever lets Him.

[angeleyes]

Hi Brian,

Thank you very much for your advice and I have done just that, I guess that now I just have to be patient and wait and see what God's will is for this situation and for my life in general. The waiting part is always the hardest part for me.

I know that we are to wait on God, but I still don't know if I should call him tomorrow when his phone should be turned back on or if I should wait for him to call me back?

[Kharisma]

Angeleyes, I'm new to this board.  I posted on the marriage board over a week ago because I needed advice.  From time to time we all need advice from others who aren't emotionally clouded by the situation like we are.  It's hard to see your own situation objectively but easier to see someone else's.  You may feel that you have bad luck with men as a single but I think it would be even worse to have bad luck with a husband.  Just know there are some married women in worse shape than single women. 


After reading your post about the bus driver guy let me say that since I don't know either of you I have no motivation to go to either extreme in my response.  It appears that initially there was attraction on both parts but time has begun to test what you really have.  It's better to find out sooner rather than later.   I'm making this judgment based on what you've said so far.  It appears to me that he is no longer into you as you are to him.  If you can't reach him on weekends it is more than likely because he is involved with someone else or wants to spend his weekends doing other things to meet people and is too afraid of hurting your feelings to be honest and straight with you.  I'm not all condoning dishonesty but from experience I know that "honesty" seems to backfire in relationships or friendship when it's not what they other person of opposite sex wants to hear.    You TM'd him to get him to response to your accusations and seeking a knee-jerk reaction from him.  Either his phone really wasn't working and he never got the message OR he refused to respond back to you because it would only make things worse not better.  It seems his lie about the bus situation was caused because you were attempting to put yourself back in his path and force him to deal with you regarding your two-month relationship when he clearly didn't want to.  You may be overwhelming for him because of the aggression you're showing; in his mind the relationship is not at that level for you to behave that way.   Keep in mind for you it's a relationship but for him it may be a friendship.  For whatever reason, a lot women are able to but some men can not come out and say "this relationship is not working out for me".  A nice way to say I'm no longer  interested in further pursuing this relationship.  He may be that kind of person.   I'm not saying this is all your fault.  But you may need to check yourself on how "quickly" you become emotionally involved with the opposite sex before allowing time to test the mettle of what you have relative to God's will.     

[angeleyes]

Hello Kharisma and welcome to the boards,

You know you may be absolutely right or wrong, I don't know, but one thing that I do know from him is that he told me that we were more than just friends and now he is acting like this.

I don't know wether I will call him back or wait for him to call me once his phone is back on, but recently I learned that my ex-boyfriend who was my one true love got married and now that I have let go I guess that I am substituting the bus driver guy for him. Oh what a tingled web I have woven.

I feel alone, but I do believe that God has someone better in store for me than probabaly both of them combined.

[joshua49]

angeleyes,  I will pray that God  send you the right man.  Finding a God- fearing man is a rare find indeed. 

One that is solid and set on Christ. 

A man that is kind and gentle, not self-seeking, not rude, but has a loving spirit.  I understand your frustration.

Relationships are a funny thing.

I am a very lucky man, for I seek only a stronger relationship with my God and the Christ.  This divine relationship has made my life so complete.  I think that is why we seek an intimate close relationship with another person, so our life feels complete and whole.

You are not that much different than any one else.  You want someone that you can share your heart and dreams with, your pain and joy.  We all do.

A friend, parent, sister or brother is a fine relationship, but we seek that one intimate close relationship with a man or a woman that is so different than any other.

It would be trite of me to say "I know you will find the right man" So I will say Lord willing you will find the right man.

Josh

[angeleyes]

I find that at times i do feel that something is missing from my life, but i believe that what is really missing is the deep intimate relationship with God that I once had.
On the other hand, it is better to marry than to burn in hell/passion.

To me this issue can be a bit controversial because there are so many different veiws on marriage.

maybe you're right Josh, I hope you don't mind me calling you Josh. I do need more of Jesus and maybe once my relationship with God is completely restored, I won't feel the need to get married. I am an only child and an introvert and at times I feel that I am going to be physically alone for the rest of my life. I guess that part of the reason why I want to get married is out of fear of lonlieness.

Of course I know that with God I will never be completely alone, but it does help to have someone physically ther to hold you and to share and build with. Even the bible sayds that two are better than one. One can chase a thousand , but two can chase ten thousand.

[joshua49]

I find that at times i do feel that something is missing from my life, but i believe that what is really missing is the deep intimate relationship with God that I once had.
On the other hand, it is better to marry than to burn in hell/passion.

To me this issue can be a bit controversial because there are so many different veiws on marriage.

maybe you're right Josh, I hope you don't mind me calling you Josh. I do need more of Jesus and maybe once my relationship with God is completely restored, I won't feel the need to get married. I am an only child and an introvert and at times I feel that I am going to be physically alone for the rest of my life. I guess that part of the reason why I want to get married is out of fear of lonlieness.

Of course I know that with God I will never be completely alone, but it does help to have someone physically ther to hold you and to share and build with. Even the bible sayds that two are better than one. One can chase a thousand , but two can chase ten thousand.

Yes you may call me Josh,

You are right, it is better to have someone physical with you.  I would say, and this is a hard saying for people to grasp.  To have a spirit union with one as God and Christ is very hard because we are physical, but once we get past our physical nature the spiritual union flows as sweet as honey.

This takes a complete self-control of our heart and mind, one which Jesus mentions when he states the greatest commandment -

Matthew 22:37  Jesus replied, "'You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.'

You know that you are not alone as God holds you in His hand, but to feel the physical of another's hand in yours is thrilling. God understands that. 

Just as now, right this moment as you read this post from me, you feel a sense of physical communication, yes.  I could say all sorts of feel good things- God is preparing the right man for you,  God wants you to be patient until He sends the right man....etc.

As well as I know my Father, I don't know His physical plans for your life.  I do know this, God loves you more than you or I could know, and one day we will experience His love for all eternity.

For me that satisfies all my needs and wants in this life.

Josh

[angeleyes]

You are absolutely right because when you are completely dedicated to serving and pleasing God, everything else will fall into place. It's a matter of submitting to God and allowing Him to purge and prune us so that we will grow more and more in love with Him and to be on fire for Him and to be bold as lions when witnessing to others about Him.

Please pray for me because right now I am struggling to get closer to God as I once was before. I used to be completely sold out to God and loved fellowshipping with Him and I used to love Him with all my heart, mind, and soul, but now I just love Him and I don't like it one bit.

[joshua49]

You are absolutely right because when you are completely dedicated to serving and pleasing God, everything else will fall into place. It's a matter of submitting to God and allowing Him to purge and prune us so that we will grow more and more in love with Him and to be on fire for Him and to be bold as lions when witnessing to others about Him.

Please pray for me because right now I am struggling to get closer to God as I once was before. I used to be completely sold out to God and loved fellowshipping with Him and I used to love Him with all my heart, mind, and soul, but now I just love Him and I don't like it one bit.

If you don't care, could you tell me what happen that you seem to of moved away from the fire of God's love.

Josh