Is natural family planning a sin?

[pfpt]

We all know that a marriage can`t be solely based on love and affection,it needs sex aswell
i did a small reaserch and i discovered that the use of birth control such as condoms is a sin.sex was made by God for procreation.
i-am-so-confused

[Jon-Marc]

We all know that a marriage can`t be solely based on love and affection,it needs sex aswell
i did a small reaserch and i discovered that the use of birth control such as condoms is a sin.sex was made by God for procreation.
i-am-so-confused

Show us scripture that says that birth control is a sin. I don't remember any. In my opinion it's better not to bring an unwanted child into the world. Also, why does a successful marriage need sex? What about those who can't perform sexually any more, or those who don't want sex? There are people like that. Just because God said to be "fruitful and multiply" doesn't mean anyone should feel pressured to have children they don't want.

[Pokhara]

I agree with J-M that family planning is not a sin - provided that it does not involve abortion.

[janine]

Yes.  Abortion as it is used in the West, most of the time, is just after-the-fact birth control.

Then you have birth control methods that do allow a woman to produce a good egg, and do allow fertilization of the egg, so there you go, the beginning of a new child!  Except these methods of birth control do their work by not allowing the new life to implant in the wall of the uterus.  Many of us draw the line there, we feel it's killing off a life just for our convenience or out of fear.

As for birth control methods that are simple barriers to prevent conception, or methods that stop egg production, or methods that restrict and control egg production -- making it so that there is very little possibility of unplanned conception  -- Most people are comfortable there.

You'd have to ask those who are more strict than that to explain why they feel the way they do about it.

Most people who are against all birth control, in principle, IMO, have not studied it out for themselves.  They're just going by what their church teaches them, and IMO the church is usually wrong.

[pfpt]

so...in a nutshell.having sex by using a condom is not a sin?

[Tantor]

Anything that prevents the egg and sperm from hooking up is ok in my book.

[MarkHooper]

The question of family planning goes deep into ideology and pragmatism. One is the belief the earth is over populated. With such thinking other concepts come into play like euthanasia  and abortion. The Bible does not address issues like this because the thinking of the time the Scripture were written was fatalism. 

Historically we know many types of  contraceptives have been in use especially during the Roman rule. What does this mean for us?

Silence of scripture has 2 variance both are subjective one forbids the other permits. Scripture speaking on issues of preference say to him who thinks it sin IT IS! But to the one who doesn't it is not.

So the answers is yes it is a sin and no it is not a sin based on our limited hermeneutic to answer the question.

[Charles Sloan]

With such thinking other concepts come into play like euthanasia  and abortion. The Bible does not address issues like this because the thinking of the time the Scripture were written was fatalism.

The Bible doesn't address issues like euthanasia or abortion?

Are you kidding?

[MarkHooper]

The Bible doesn't address issues like euthanasia or abortion?

Are you kidding?

Nope, I would be happy to see scriptures that take on such issues!

[Charles Sloan]

The Bible doesn't address issues like euthanasia or abortion?

Are you kidding?

Nope, I would be happy to see scriptures that take on such issues!

How about something like "Thou shalt not kill" for starters...

[MarkHooper]

How about something like "Thou shalt not kill" for starters...

I don't see the issue of abortion  or euthanasia  in this Old Testament law? God command the Israelites to kill women and children!

[Charles Sloan]

So because God told the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites, abortion and euthanasia are approved by God?

No wonder you are looking for a new hermeneutic...

[bemark]

This time it was

God kills a man for spilling his
seed on the ground.
Genesis 38:9


(Genesis 38:9) - "And Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so it came about that when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground, in order not to give offspring to his brother."

     Why did God kill Onan for spilling his seed on the ground?   The reason God did this is not because Onan wasted his seed on the ground, but because Onan refused to perform his familial duties of producing offspring for his brother's.  This was a great offense at the time.  Now, we must realize that the culture was very different than ours is today.  In that culture, when a man died and left no children, the next of kin was sometimes obligated to "go into" the wife and produce children.  These children were then considered to be the descendents of the original late husband and would be raised as such.  This way, the offspring would be able to take care of the mother, provide more people for the community, and thereby raise their own children, continuing the name of that family.  Onan knew this and refused to take part in furthering the honor and name of the brother's wife and thereby also risking provision for her in the future.  To this, God was very displeased and took Onan's life.

Glad this doseent happen nowdays

[zoonance]

so...in a nutshell.having sex by using a condom is not a sin?

Only if it is a french tickler

[MarkHooper]

So because God told the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites, abortion and euthanasia are approved by God?

I'm glad you agree....

[Charles Sloan]

So because God told the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites, abortion and euthanasia are approved by God?

I'm glad you agree....

You are a fool if you think I agree.

[janine]

Any sort of killing of any sort of person is fine and dandy, if God tells you to do it.

[MarkHooper]

Getting back to the point about family planning God killed over a million people in the Bible and Satan only killed 10. It seems to me whether we think we are planning children or not the reality of there existance is really out of our reach.

Do we really think we send less people to hell by our not bringing them into this world? Do we not think the world is not big enough to deal with our unwanted mistakes?

[Mac]

I think planning is fine....I know some denominations look down on it or out right call in sinful....However, I think it is a matter of responsibility...In most cases....

As for the abortion thing, I would like to get some clarification here...So we can set the record straight, are some on here saying that it is ok with God to have an abortion? Is this what I am seeing here?


Mac

[MarkHooper]

Yes if the baby is anencephalic.     

[Jon-Marc]

I agree with J-M that family planning is not a sin - provided that it does not involve abortion.

What about the morning-after pill that is supposed to stop the birth before it goes past the first day? Although I consider abortion to be legalized murder, I'm not sure I have a problem with that.