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Is Killing in a video game a sin?

Started by Marc2x, Sun Nov 09, 2008 - 17:51:59

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the J Man

Quote from: MorganTheAngel on Sun Jan 04, 2009 - 16:24:19
But I really don't see a problem with it, because sometimes that relieves stress for me when I play games like Grand Theft Auto and Halo. ::tippinghat:: :thewave:

You don't need that type of video game to relieve stress. there are other ways to relieve stress.  If someone depends on ungodly means to relieve stress, then they have another problem altogether.

MegaJedi


wolflet7

My mom wouldn't let me play T rated games even when I was 13 and my cousin was 7,with him playing Spider Man 2 and the likes.  I couldn't get a T rated game until I was 14 and that was Star Wars Battlefront, which I believe is only rated for violence.  She lets me get T rated games as long as they don't have any horribly bad stuff (sexual themes, nudity, etc.) and that's because I am in high school now.  Now she won't let me get M rated games even when I turn 17 or even 18, so I have to wait until I move out of the house to get M rated games and I can't even get a FaceBook until I'm 17 years old either.  As long as you don't let it get out of hand and you're mature and Christian enough to handle it, then I don't think it's bad.

Basherbelding

If you like it i guess it is, if your just doing it to go on with the story then no. Also war games cannot be sin as your not murdering your killing. Yes murdering is a sin, but killing is not. And that's the same on earth murder is against the law, killing is not.

the J Man

Quote from: MegaJedi on Sun Jan 04, 2009 - 18:14:37
Judge J has spoken...lol.

That's the biggest lie operating against the church to accuse us who speak for the truth as being judges. Jesus Himsefl stood up for truth and so did the apostles and John the baptists. Therefore, there is nothing judgemental about speaking the truth. Telling someopne that 2+2=4 is not being judgemental, so why do you accuse me of being a judge?

MegaJedi

Quote from: the J Man on Mon Jan 05, 2009 - 22:15:20
Quote from: MegaJedi on Sun Jan 04, 2009 - 18:14:37
Judge J has spoken...lol.

That's the biggest lie operating against the church to accuse us who speak for the truth as being judges. Jesus Himsefl stood up for truth and so did the apostles and John the baptists. Therefore, there is nothing judgemental about speaking the truth. Telling someopne that 2+2=4 is not being judgemental, so why do you accuse me of being a judge?


Did you tell David that killing Goliath was a sin as well?

the J Man

Quote from: MegaJedi on Tue Jan 06, 2009 - 17:43:01




Did you tell David that killing Goliath was a sin as well?

Now that's really twisting things around. The bible speajks againsgt murder, but killing goliath wasn't murder, it was necesary. If a soldier goes to war, they have no choice to but kill, if a police officer shoots in self defense or to protect the well being of others in danger, that is not murder,  but many video games teach violence to be acceptable and okay. So why do yuo twist things around? Because you want to make me look follish for standing up for the truth!

MegaJedi

You look foolish complaining about pixels on a screen that change color when you push a button.  That is all killing on a video game is.  No more, no less. 

bemark

MegaJedi     ::nodding::    I just pushed the manna button 

MegaJedi


fanuvmxpx

Quote from: Basherbelding on Mon Jan 05, 2009 - 12:38:04
If you like it i guess it is, if your just doing it to go on with the story then no. Also war games cannot be sin as your not murdering your killing. Yes murdering is a sin, but killing is not. And that's the same on earth murder is against the law, killing is not.

Really? So the whole "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Commandment has no relevance at all?

fanuvmxpx

Quote from: MegaJedi on Tue Jan 06, 2009 - 22:39:30
You look foolish complaining about pixels on a screen that change color when you push a button.  That is all killing on a video game is.  No more, no less. 

I took it further back in this post. It's lines of code, its computer programming, its photographs that are being moved around a screen by computer programming. I'm pretty sure throwing pictures (gun/bullets) at other pictures (whatever your attacking) is not killing or murder.

If killing in video games is a sin. Then taking a Polaroid out of a photo album and shredding it is a sin.

MegaJedi

I guess they think adding subtitles to movies (more lines of code) and those videos I made (and still am making) where I let people read the words when my favorite band sings their songs. 

Basherbelding

Quote from: fanuvmxpx on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 01:22:36
Quote from: Basherbelding on Mon Jan 05, 2009 - 12:38:04
If you like it i guess it is, if your just doing it to go on with the story then no. Also war games cannot be sin as your not murdering your killing. Yes murdering is a sin, but killing is not. And that's the same on earth murder is against the law, killing is not.

Really? So the whole "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Commandment has no relevance at all?



Hmmm, i did not think about that. I still dont think it is a sin. As i thoght murder is sin and not killing.

fanuvmxpx

Quote from: Basherbelding on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 11:54:46
Hmmm, i did not think about that. I still dont think it is a sin. As i thoght murder is sin and not killing.

Ah, but what you think doesn't matter brother. Only God's Truth matters.

the J Man

Quote from: MegaJedi on Tue Jan 06, 2009 - 22:39:30
You look foolish complaining about pixels on a screen that change color when you push a button.  That is all killing on a video game is.  No more, no less. 

If I look foolish for standing up for the truth, that so be it. People said stuff like that about Jesus too. That shall not kill doesn't become void just because it's in a video game. The same message still apllies, it plants the same type of seeds into people. The wrold is filled with influences. Games, movies, TV shows that make killing look like it's cool, present that type of a message.

btw, partaking in a discussion while speaking the truth, and complaining, are 2 totaly different things. It's amazing what those who want to silence the truth will resort to. False accusations, to try and make anyone who stands for truth, look like a fool.

marc

If you write a fictional work, and one of the characters dies, have you committed a sin by killing that character?

the J Man

Quote from: marc on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 19:43:02
If you write a fictional work, and one of the characters dies, have you committed a sin by killing that character?

No because that's  a story. Fictional story writers, often write things about reality and what's going on in the world.. In reality, these things happen.

marc

Quote from: the J Man on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 20:29:32
Quote from: marc on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 19:43:02
If you write a fictional work, and one of the characters dies, have you committed a sin by killing that character?

No because that's  a story. Fictional story writers, often write things about reality and what's going on in the world.. In reality, these things happen.

But sometimes they also write about fantasy, which I've noticed you have some trouble differentiating.

At any rate, what you've just said should make you think that maybe you don't have all truth here.  I don't know the answer to this particular question, and I don't believe that many of those who act like they do know either.

MegaJedi

in games like GTA the game is also fiction.

wolflet7

Quote from: the J Man on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 20:29:32
Quote from: marc on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 19:43:02
If you write a fictional work, and one of the characters dies, have you committed a sin by killing that character?

No because that's  a story. Fictional story writers, often write things about reality and what's going on in the world.. In reality, these things happen.

You pretty much can't have a video game without a story.  So...in a sense, a video game is like a story, but it's just a story that you play.  Can you get any further in a video game unless you kill this boss?  That's part of the FICTIONAL story in the video game, isn't it?

the J Man

Quote from: marc on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 20:35:21


But sometimes they also write about fantasy, which I've noticed you have some trouble differentiating.

Fantasy is an escapefrom reality. Fantasy is trying to make your own world. All fiction is, is using your imagination to write something. Since I just differetiated that for you, how do you claim that I have trouble differentiating fantasy from fiction?

QuoteAt any rate, what you've just said should make you think that maybe you don't have all truth here. 

Or perhaps you and many others, just don't want to accept the truth? That is why you deabte against the truth and those who speak it, so  much?


the J Man

Quote from: wolflet7 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 22:15:48


You pretty much can't have a video game without a story.  So...in a sense, a video game is like a story, but it's just a story that you play.  Can you get any further in a video game unless you kill this boss?  That's part of the FICTIONAL story in the video game, isn't it?

It's not the story that's evil, it's what some of these games promote. The Word of God says thou shall not kill, it also says to have no fellowship witht he unfrutiful works of darkness, but rather reprove them(Ephesians5:11),  to abhor what is evil and cleave to what is good(Romans12:9), it  to be holy as the Lord is holy(1st Peter1:16).  Jesus told us to shine our light before men(Matthew5:16). How in the world can you shine light in a dark world when you are partaking in things that are of this world? Video games that promote killing, witchcraft, occultism, are wicked in the sight of God. They go against His will. They are instruments of the devil that he uses to reach the masses.

MegaJedi

Quote from: the J Man on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 15:05:25
Quote from: wolflet7 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 - 22:15:48


You pretty much can't have a video game without a story.  So...in a sense, a video game is like a story, but it's just a story that you play.  Can you get any further in a video game unless you kill this boss?  That's part of the FICTIONAL story in the video game, isn't it?

It's not the story that's evil, it's what some of these games promote. The Word of God says thou shall not kill, it also says to have no fellowship witht he unfrutiful works of darkness, but rather reprove them(Ephesians5:11),  to abhor what is evil and cleave to what is good(Romans12:9), it  to be holy as the Lord is holy(1st Peter1:16).  Jesus told us to shine our light before men(Matthew5:16). How in the world can you shine light in a dark world when you are partaking in things that are of this world? Video games that promote killing, witchcraft, occultism, are wicked in the sight of God. They go against His will. They are instruments of the devil that he uses to reach the masses.


And yet earlier you admited that killing someone in a book is not a sin....Double standard much?

fanuvmxpx

Quote from: MegaJedi on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 15:55:32
And yet earlier you admited that killing someone in a book is not a sin....Double standard much?

I just checked and I have over 1,000 kills now in my favorite game

MegaJedi

Quote from: fanuvmxpx on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 17:00:45
Quote from: MegaJedi on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 15:55:32
And yet earlier you admited that killing someone in a book is not a sin....Double standard much?

I just checked and I have over 1,000 kills now in my favorite game


I beat that every time I play God of war...lol.

the J Man

Quote from: MegaJedi on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 15:55:32

And yet earlier you admited that killing someone in a book is not a sin....Double standard much?

You've literally twisted my words around. I never once said that killing is okay. Of course, those who want to keep people from the truth, always resort to twisting things around to accuse anyone who speak for the truth.

the J Man

Quote from: MegaJedi on Sat Jan 10, 2009 - 13:15:34
Quote from: fanuvmxpx on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 17:00:45
Quote from: MegaJedi on Fri Jan 09, 2009 - 15:55:32
And yet earlier you admited that killing someone in a book is not a sin....Double standard much?

I just checked and I have over 1,000 kills now in my favorite game


I beat that every time I play God of war...lol.

I looked up God of war, and it sure looks demonic. Even the names of characters such as the goddess Atehna or Zuess. Zuess is supposivley the ruler of heaven and earth, lord of the sky. BUt only Jesus is Lord and the first commandment is to not have nay gods before the Lord who created heaven and earth, so Zeus is a false god. God or godess is a form of idol worship. Gods and godesses are pagan concepts. No true christian would have any fellowship with anything that endorses gods and godesses.

MegaJedi

As a fan of Greek Mythology (yes I know the difference between Myth and real life)  I knew I would ove the game and when I played the first one and at the end killed Ares to become the god of war I was hooked.    Also a huge fan of Ratchet and Clank and Animal Crossing, Jak and Daxter, The Godfather, Megaman, Star Wars, Spider Man, Kid Iccarus, and many more.

fanuvmxpx

Quote from: the J Man on Sat Jan 10, 2009 - 22:04:14
I looked up God of war, and it sure looks demonic.

You know what looked demonic to me? The Trinity Blaspheming Network (TBN). I'll take God of War (Fiction) over Benny Hinn (Real False Prophet) any day of the week.

MegaJedi

I like the Gospel Music Channel though.  And NRB as it shows ApologetiX.

Ashy

What if you had a network game of super mario..

Let us say you are one of the 8 Marios on your Mario-team and have 8 Luigis to face, and when you jump on the head of the opponion (that would be one of the Luigis, played by some guy in a different country perhaps) he would squeeze his eyes, fall through the ground, out of the scene and die, not to show up again until the next round.

Very much like Medal of honour, ravenshield etc..

Would that be a sin? hmm...

I figure not. What then if you had vegetables and other things to throw at the enemy instead of granades/guns, like in the actual Mario game, would that make the game any worse?

We`ll have to agree that it is the graphic that makes the modern games questionable.

Games like lucky luke, who also shoot his enemys, is never mentioned because of it`s cartoonish design.

But should it really matter?

fanuvmxpx

Quote from: the J Man on Sat Jan 10, 2009 - 22:04:14
I looked up God of war, and it sure looks demonic. Even the names of characters such as the goddess Atehna or Zuess. Zuess is supposivley the ruler of heaven and earth, lord of the sky. BUt only Jesus is Lord and the first commandment is to not have nay gods before the Lord who created heaven and earth, so Zeus is a false god. God or godess is a form of idol worship. Gods and godesses are pagan concepts. No true christian would have any fellowship with anything that endorses gods and godesses.

Megajedi does not have any fellowship with the mythological gods. In fact, he destroys them for the false gods that they are. Isn't that Christian? To defeat evil?

MegaJedi


chickuhdee20

I don't think it is. My husband and I have war games and killing games. I think it is a sin if you play the games to learn how to do things, or while playing you're thinking about killing someone.

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