God Raised Up the SDA Church to Restore

[3AM]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

[Hobie]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

Thus the Seventh-Day Adventist church emerged as a rebuke to the churches of the Reformation who had not continued growing with the light given them, and this remnant who formed the church made the Sabbath a cornerstone of the name 'Seventh-Day' as well as Christ-centered as the 'Adventist' part of the name shows. Then this remnant not only follow the commandments but have the testimony of Christ which is the Spirit of prophecy given to them through what we can clearly see in the message that Ellen White gives in her writings. So corporately the church has all the attributes that the remnant people would have, and that a remnant people would want to be a part of.
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[current occupant]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

Thus the Seventh-Day Adventist church emerged as a rebuke to the churches of the Reformation who had not continued growing with the light given them, and this remnant who formed the church made the Sabbath a cornerstone of the name 'Seventh-Day' as well as Christ-centered as the 'Adventist' part of the name shows. Then this remnant not only follow the commandments but have the testimony of Christ which is the Spirit of prophecy given to them through what we can clearly see in the message that Ellen White gives in her writings. So corporately the church has all the attributes that the remnant people would have, and that a remnant people would want to be a part of.
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The theory of rebuking other churches through the name 'Seventh-day Adventist' is the brain child of Ellen White as is the fallacy of the SDA church being the continuation of the reformation.  SDA's, at the very least, do not subscribe to Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide

According to their own interpretation of the criteria, as long as SDA's maintain an official pro-choice abortion stance they have no legitimate claim to any sort of remnant status

Why would I want to be part of any organization that makes bogus claims of keeping the 10 commandments when they actively support the breaking of the 6th commandment through the support of Abortion?

Outside of the SDA interpretation of the remnant, there is absolutely no Biblical support for identification of the 'remnant' with a corporately organized religious denomination.

The testimony of Jesus is the ESSENCE of all prophecy.  This text in Revelation is not describing the Gift of the Spirit – prophecy.

[3AM]

The theory of rebuking other churches through the name ‘Seventh-day Adventist’ is the brain child of Ellen White as is the fallacy of the SDA church being the continuation of the reformation.  SDA’s, at the very least, do not subscribe to Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide

I see that you have much to learn about God !!

[current occupant]

The theory of rebuking other churches through the name 'Seventh-day Adventist' is the brain child of Ellen White as is the fallacy of the SDA church being the continuation of the reformation.  SDA's, at the very least, do not subscribe to Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide

I see that you have much to learn about God !!

If that's all you got for an answer, then you have much to learn about sharing God.

surely you can do better!!

[wayne]

The theory of rebuking other churches through the name 'Seventh-day Adventist' is the brain child of Ellen White as is the fallacy of the SDA church being the continuation of the reformation.  SDA's, at the very least, do not subscribe to Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide

I see that you have much to learn about God !!

If that's all you got for an answer, then you have much to learn about sharing God.

surely you can do better!!

yeah, i can do better. if i had a nickel for every freaking church that called itself the true church, id be a flippin millionaire

[Bon Voyage]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

The true gospel message that Christ's death, burial, and resurrection was not sufficient?  That would be a FALSE gospel.

[current occupant]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

The true gospel message that Christ's death, burial, and resurrection was not sufficient?  That would be a FALSE gospel.

I wonder how many SDA's can quote the Bible text, and tell us where it is found, that states the original, complete gospel message in its simplest form?

[3AM]

The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message (Revelation 14:6-12), for these last days of earth's history...just before Jesus Christ returns to this earth.

The true gospel message that Christ's death, burial, and resurrection was not sufficient?  That would be a FALSE gospel.

WHY do you ignore what Revelation says ?

Revelation 14:6   And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,  

 14:7   Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; 1.) for the hour of his judgment is come: and 2.) worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.  

God's Gospel message includes....when God's Judgment Day would start....and, the 7th day sabbath.

Read the context.

[wayne]

the sabboth was made FOR man, not man For the sabboth......jesus

[larry2]

3AM - The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message

larry2 - 1 Corinthians 3:4  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? I reckon we could add "I am of 7th Day Adventism" to that list. Are you sure it was God who brought this about?

In Jesus' name - larry2

 

[wayne]

3AM - The Reason God raised up the 7th Day Adventist movement was to restore the true Gospel message

larry2 - 1 Corinthians 3:4  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? I reckon we could add "I am of 7th Day Adventism" to that list. Are you sure it was God who brought this about?

In Jesus' name - larry2

 

ooohhhh, that was low brother larry. are they sure it was god who started the SDA. thats cold. anyway, the mormons say they have they restored church. restored restore the gospel? what happened to the gospel that it needs restoring? did aliens come and take all the bibles off the earth? what, there was no gospel till the SDA came along? hey, i got a great idea. let ellen and joe smith duke it out in a cage match. ill join the church of the winner.

[3AM]

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ooohhhh, that was low brother larry. are they sure it was god who started the SDA. thats cold.

You should merely forgive Larry.

anyway, the mormons say they have they restored church. restored restore the gospel?

The Bible has revealed the true church of God.
Revelation  14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.  

Mormons do not keep the Commandments of God, nor do they teach anyone to keep them, as Jesus Christ told Christians to do.

what happened to the gospel that it needs restoring?

The Gospel message includes God's Judgment day, as well as observing the 7th day sabbath.
Revelation  14:6   And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,  

 14:7   Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.  

[larry2]

3AM - Revelation  14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 

larry2 - Dear 3AM, do you keep all the commandments? Could you identify with those carnal churches mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3:4? If not, why?

Thanks in Jesus' name - larry2

[3AM]

3AM - Revelation  14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 

larry2 - Dear 3AM, do you keep all the commandments?

I'm not the example you are suppose to follow....Jesus Christ is, and HE kept all God's Commandments....and, told ALL Christians to do the same.

Could you identify with those carnal churches mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3:4? If not, why?

Thanks in Jesus' name - larry2

[/size]1 Corinthians   3:4   For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I [am] of Apollos; are ye not carnal ? 

Explain the point you  are trying to make ?

[larry2]

3AM - I'm not the example you are suppose to follow....Jesus Christ is, and HE kept all God's Commandments....and, told ALL Christians to do the same.

larry2 - That's odd, I thought we were to follow Paul as he followed Christ (1 Cor. 11:1), and that God fulfilled the righteousness of the law in us (not by us) who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

I wrote - 1 Corinthians   3:4   For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I [am] of Apollos; are ye not carnal ? 

3AM - Explain the point you  are trying to make ?

larry2 - It appears that you, like the Catholic Church are trying to elevate SDA's status to be the gateway to heaven, and yet Paul says that type of separation is carnal.

I asked if you kept all the commandments, since you are saying we should, or face judgment.

3AM - I'm not the example you are suppose to follow....Jesus Christ is, and HE kept all God's Commandments....and, told ALL Christians to do the same.

larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered. I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

Just my thoughts in Jesus' name - larry2

[3AM]

larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered.

Every Christian will be tested, as to whether they will obey God, or not.

God is not taking anyone, into heaven who disobeys, what HE says to do.

I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

When Jesus comes again...veryones fate has already been decided.

In other words, Judgment is over with, before Jesus Christ can come again......that fact is in the BIble.

[larry2]

larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered.

Every Christian will be tested, as to whether they will obey God, or not.

God is not taking anyone, into heaven who disobeys, what HE says to do.

I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

When Jesus comes again...veryones fate has already been decided.

In other words, Judgment is over with, before Jesus Christ can come again......that fact is in the BIble.

Dear 3AM, I'm sorry you have no idea as to your security in Christ. I'm also sorry that you cannot say you follow the law as you want others to do, and that you continue to sidestep direct questions about it, but that is between you and God.

May God bless you also, and convince you in your own heart as to God's perfect will for your life; God does receive those that love him and He loves you 3AM, as do I in Jesus' name - larry2

[3AM]

Dear 3AM, I'm sorry you have no idea as to your security in Christ. I'm also sorry that you cannot say you follow the law as you want others to do, and that you continue to sidestep direct questions about it, but that is between you and God.

What is it that makes people disobey God...yet, still think that God will let them into heaven ?

It this what is called: the mystery of iniquity ?

[wayne]

Dear 3AM, I'm sorry you have no idea as to your security in Christ. I'm also sorry that you cannot say you follow the law as you want others to do, and that you continue to sidestep direct questions about it, but that is between you and God.

What is it that makes people disobey God...yet, still think that God will let them into heaven ?

It this what is called: the mystery of iniquity ?

come on man. the SDA is just as useless as the LDS or the catholics. come out of her and follow the lamb

[3AM]

Dear 3AM, I'm sorry you have no idea as to your security in Christ. I'm also sorry that you cannot say you follow the law as you want others to do, and that you continue to sidestep direct questions about it, but that is between you and God.

What is it that makes people disobey God...yet, still think that God will let them into heaven ?

It this what is called: the mystery of iniquity ?

come on man. the SDA is just as useless as the LDS or the catholics. come out of her and follow the lamb

SO...another person who has yet to know what God says, in the Bible.

[wayne]

you know, i used to watch Finley on sunday. everything he said was in line with the gospel. it was yrs later that i found out he was SDA. i was watching Batchlor on TV for a long time. i didnt know he was in a religion. i agreed with everything he said. but later i noticed him talking about us and the like. and that they are gods people because they honor the sabboth. it was when i was watching 3ABN that i saw Finley on it. thats when i noticed they kept talking about them being gods church. they are good. they dont have all the wild maddness that the catholics or mormons have. Batchelor didnt preach being born again but Finley did. when a person is born again they will never join some religion. i guess finley didnt care and just wanted to save people. but batchelor wanted people to join the SDA. their message is good but the salvation by works dont make it. observing the sabboth is great but it will not save you.

[3AM]

[larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered.

It all comes down to whether a person will obey what Jesus tells them to do.

Jesus Christ told Christians, to keep God's Commandments.

I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

People who disobey God will have their names erased.

The people who do what God says to do....will keep their names in the Book of Life.

[zoonance]

It is possible that groups do arise to stimulate a restoration of the Church.   I suspect that truth can be found in every corner of the globe.  When an atheist states that a baby is cute.  That is true.  No need to throw that baby out with the bath water.  But I won't become an atheist just because I find some truth.  Not that this thread has or has not the truth on this particular subject, but I suspect some truth indeed exists somewhere in all this.

[3AM]

It is possible that groups do arise to stimulate a restoration of the Church.   I suspect that truth can be found in every corner of the globe.  When an atheist states that a baby is cute.  That is true.  No need to throw that baby out with the bath water.  But I won't become an atheist just because I find some truth.  Not that this thread has or has not the truth on this particular subject, but I suspect some truth indeed exists somewhere in all this.

This is a word to the wise, indeed !

[wayne]

[larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered.

It all comes down to whether a person will obey what Jesus tells them to do.

Jesus Christ told Christians, to keep God's Commandments.

I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

People who disobey God will have their names erased.

The people who do what God says to do....will keep their names in the Book of Life.

3AM, very sorry to hear that

[3AM]

3AM, very sorry to hear that

WHY ?

[wayne]

3AM, very sorry to hear that

WHY ?

well 3AM, you said that anyone who  disobeys god or breaks commandments will be left off the book of life. have you ever told a lie? have you ever pick up something that wasnt yours? have you ever looked at a girl,or guy, with some manner of lust.? have you ever hated anyone? have you everlooked at a nice big movie stars home and said to yourself,; gee, id like to have that lifestyle? have ever done any of these things, no matter how young you were? thats why im sorry to hear that.

[3AM]

3AM, very sorry to hear that

WHY ?

well 3AM, you said that anyone who  disobeys god or breaks commandments will be left off the book of life. have you ever told a lie? have you ever pick up something that wasnt yours? have you ever looked at a girl,or guy, with some manner of lust.? have you ever hated anyone? have you everlooked at a nice big movie stars home and said to yourself,; gee, id like to have that lifestyle? have ever done any of these things, no matter how young you were? thats why im sorry to hear that.

WOW...Are you ever riddled with guilt ?

Only a guilty person attacks like that.

[wayne]

3AM, very sorry to hear that

WHY ?

well 3AM, you said that anyone who  disobeys god or breaks commandments will be left off the book of life. have you ever told a lie? have you ever pick up something that wasnt yours? have you ever looked at a girl,or guy, with some manner of lust.? have you ever hated anyone? have you everlooked at a nice big movie stars home and said to yourself,; gee, id like to have that lifestyle? have ever done any of these things, no matter how young you were? thats why im sorry to hear that.

WOW...Are you ever riddled with guilt ?

Only a guilty person attacks like that.

i am quilty as charged. amongst sinners, i am chief

[3AM]

i am quilty as charged. amongst sinners, i am chief

Don't tell me...confess to God, ask for HIS forgiveness.

[wayne]

i am quilty as charged. amongst sinners, i am chief

Don't tell me...confess to God, ask for HIS forgiveness.

ok, so you dont break any commandments and are going to heaven, correct?tell me how you do it

[davidandme]

3AM - Revelation  14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 

larry2 - Dear 3AM, do you keep all the commandments?

I'm not the example you are suppose to follow....Jesus Christ is, and HE kept all God's Commandments....and, told ALL Christians to do the same.

Could you identify with those carnal churches mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3:4? If not, why?

Thanks in Jesus' name - larry2

[/size]1 Corinthians   3:4   For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I [am] of Apollos; are ye not carnal ? 

Explain the point you  are trying to make ?

Christians that keep all the commandments of God are not necesarily perfect but they do strive to be because it is the will of God.  Mat 5:48.  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

[larry2]

Dear Brother davidandme, I know where you're coming from, or at least think I do; I do not know others who are boasting in their works.

When someone tells me that if I do not accomplish following the law, and I'm going to hell for breaking a law, and me and you both know we all fail God, there needs to be testimony to their righteousness.

Having talked with you for some time, I believe you know my stance on Jesus being my rest, I do not restrict myself on certain foods, etc. But here comes one along and declares they do all these things, and I doubt the whole truth is in them.

I haven't seen the law tell us to do the best you can; it says to not fail in one point or be guilty of all. So here we have a law keeper breaking all the law probably on a regular basis, but I can't even get them to admit they ever break a law. I just hope they still base their salvation somewhat on what Jesus' did; not all on what they do to earn their own salvation.

I don't mean to get involved here, and become a thorn in the side of others, other than when a thread I replied to on a different board gets transferred to here. A funny story comes to mind you may have heard before referring to those thinking they're the only ones in heaven. One in heaven asks another; who are those way over there? Shhh! They think they're the only ones here. Normally I have heard this referring to Baptists. 

Again, may God bless you Davidandme in your walk with God, and for Him in the blessed name of Jesus - larry2

[wayne]

[larry2 - I didn't think that was that hard a question. If you base your salvation upon keeping all the commandments, or even being considered as being a Christian, I would think you had that covered.

It all comes down to whether a person will obey what Jesus tells them to do.

Jesus Christ told Christians, to keep God's Commandments.

I'd sure hate to think of you at the great white throne judgment wondering if your name was in the book of life, or if it had been erased.

People who disobey God will have their names erased.

The people who do what God says to do....will keep their names in the Book of Life.

so 3AM, i guess you obey all christs commandments? then you wll get to heaven. be honest, do you obey all his commandments?