The Day The Nation Cried.

[lightshineon]

 Thank You everyone, I am so amazed at the different stories. Larry, I do not show emotion right away, kind of detach, Even in 9-11. Larry sad for the Catholic man who said that. Others thank you, I am going to save these insights.

[Logismos]

Why the Kennedy love fest? He was a liberal, a Democrat, a big-government spender, a Keynesian, etc. I thought these things were an anathema on this board? Granted its not cool for anyone to be shot but why the special attachment to Kennedy?


***sorry log, I clicked on modify instead of quote,  Jaime***

[farouk]

One day President Reagan was shot. Immediately I thought that ppl would remember what they were doing when they heard the news, etc. (Merciful that he survived.)

[lightshineon]

One day President Reagan was shot. Immediately I thought that ppl would remember what they were doing when they heard the news, etc. (Merciful that he survived.)

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What were you doing Mr F?

[zoonance]

Why the Kennedy love fest? He was a liberal, a Democrat, a big-government spender, a Keynesian, etc. I thought these things were an anathema on this board? Granted its not cool for anyone to be shot but why the special attachment to Kennedy?

because kennedy had a love fest? 

[lightshineon]

Why the Kennedy love fest? He was a liberal, a Democrat, a big-government spender, a Keynesian, etc. I thought these things were an anathema on this board? Granted its not cool for anyone to be shot but why the special attachment to Kennedy?

because kennedy had a love fest? 

Well log, I was not there, but without getting to obnoxious or rude, I think the liberals were not as loony tunes, as today. Maybe wrong, were you there? I bet not, just like me, I am sure you want to know what things in the past were like.

[Jaime]

Why the Kennedy love fest? He was a liberal, a Democrat, a big-government spender, a Keynesian, etc. I thought these things were an anathema on this board? Granted its not cool for anyone to be shot but why the special attachment to Kennedy?

Kennedy was closer to a modern day Republican than a modern day Democrat.  Kennedy believed tax cuts increased tax revenue.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/18/business/rationale-for-kennedy-s-tax-cut.html

''In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low - and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut rates now.''

[Logismos]

I'll just start a new thread because lightshineon hosting a liberal love fest IS a rare thing to spoil.

[lightshineon]

I'll just start a new thread because lightshineon hosting a liberal love fest IS a rare thing to spoil.
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  log, not what, I am doing, but you did make me giggle.

[Snargles]

I just now caught up with this thread.

I remember the day well. I was in the sixth grade and was happy when school was dismissed early. I walked home with one of my best friends whose father was a Baptist minister and we asked the other kids we passed if they were glad or sad the president was dead. We told everyone we were glad the Catholic president had been shot.

I still would never vote for a Catholic but I don't wish for any of them to get shot.

[lightshineon]

I just now caught up with this thread.

I remember the day well. I was in the sixth grade and was happy when school was dismissed early. I walked home with one of my best friends whose father was a Baptist minister and we asked the other kids we passed if they were glad or sad the president was dead. We told everyone we were glad the Catholic president had been shot.

I still would never vote for a Catholic but I don't wish for any of them to get shot.

oh my, thanks for sharing, thanks for being honest.

[lightshineon]

 I love documentaries, but have loved personal stories more. Does anyone have any more to add? Was any more born on here at that time, or old enough to remember, I was not, and like hearing peoples perspective.

                Thanks

[gwen]

I wasn't born yet. But my mother says that she was in her senior year of high school and they were sent home early. She said there seemed to be people crying everywhere she looked and she was crying too. She also said that everyone was in so much shock because no one had every even dreamed that something like that would or could happen.

But she also said that it was innocence on the part of the citizens and arrogance on the part of the government that they never imagined that a thing like that could or would happen. And she said that some people even thought that maybe it was a Communist attack (at first) because nobody wanted to believe that an American would do such a thing.

She went on to describe how everything felt so surreal and how people expressed feeling vulnerable, like the nation was suddenly "weak" somehow. And she remembered how furious and shocked everyone was when Ozwald was caught.

God bless,
gwen

[Rob, PGK]

I still would never vote for a Catholic but I don't wish for any of them to get shot.

Don't know why you wouldn't vote for a Catholic, but the best thing that happened during his Presidency was his assassination. And I don't mean that the way it sounds. Had he served his entire term, people would not be in love with Kennedy as they are now.

BTW, did you know that the driving force behind "In God We Trust" being put on our money was the Knights of Columbus, as was the defeat of Prop. 8 in California, not to mention they are ponying up the dough to fight the atheist that is trying to get "In God We Trust" taken off of our money. Not too bad of work for a bunch of drunk Catholic guys.

[kensington]

Drunk "Italian" Catholic guys where I come from.

[kensington]

Thanks Canuk, I did not realize it impacted other countries. Now that is intersting. Kennedy must have been well liked world wide. They let you out of school too? Interesting that the only Kennedy son to die of natural causes died today.

I know this is late... and not to state the obvious, but... that is probably due to the fact that God was giving him time to repent of the murder of Mary Jo.  He needed more time than that rest apparently. 

[Eagle]

In a week i would be 17, I was at work the day Kennedy was shot. Work stopped we all watched TV. Scared, scared to think that something like that happened. I left work was walking home, down the knoll i went the Post office was at the bottom and i saw the flag, it was lower then me. Seeing the flag at half mast for the first time in my memery was over welming.

threw the years watching the slow death of the hero JFK, seeing the man he really was, was as heart wrenching as his death if not more so...

[lightshineon]

In a week i would be 17, I was at work the day Kennedy was shot. Work stopped we all watched TV. Scared, scared to think that something like that happened. I left work was walking home, down the knoll i went the Post office was at the bottom and i saw the flag, it was lower then me. Seeing the flag at half mast for the first time in my memery was over welming.

threw the years watching the slow death of the hero JFK, seeing the man he really was, was as heart wrenching as his death if not more so...

Thank you for sharing your story. I am curious about the last part though. What do you mean, if you do not mind explaining. Thanks

[lch]

Referencing:  "I was in such shock and confusion that anyone would be smiling and clapping about something so horrible ---it was so hard... the disillusionment with people - in the assassin and a fellow 6th grader.   That she could actually have absorbed her parents (Republican) hatred towards a man, whether politician or not ---we didn't exchange hatred in my house.  My parents didn't teach us to hate so much that we would be joyous when someone -anyone got shot in the head....  I was horrified seeing someone clap in glee at this...stunned...and speechless...still."

I was almost 14.  I remember well the assassination.  I was on the school bus going home (I don't remember if we had gotten out early.. we had heard at school that the president has been shot in Dallas).   Our bus had a radio and it was on.. we heard the broadcast that the president had died.  Ok, this is the deep South.. the boys got up and cheered.  What the girls did I don't remember.. I was crying and so shaken.   Some were saying goodbye "N"lover and such.  I never quite understood the hate for the man.  Yes, he was Catholic but why that mattered didn't register to me.  My parents weren't vocal on the subject of politics if they were even political at all.  The next few days were somber to me... the pompt of the funeral procession was fascinating to me but somber.  Little John saluting the carriage carrying his dad.  All was so poignant and still is to this day.   I have dealt with comments about Kennedy from several.. one being my late husband.  When Jackie Kenndy Onassis died in 1994 I think it was, my husband made the remark about the "N"lovers wife.  I had had it.  Even though he was very ill and close to his death, I decided to tell him I was sick of that attitude.  That she was just a woman who was widowed early in life and the children were left without a father.   Why it took me that long I don't know.   It was a day that did perhaps change my life in a way.   It took away my innocence, made come to light that people can be the most rotten of beings with their hatred.  There are, fortunately, very few still around that still make those derogatory comments about Kennedy.   And I still hate it.  That generation is dying off.  I am 60, born in 1950, and still Southern. 

[lightshineon]

ich, thank you that is profound. Truthfully, I think and pray things have changed in this generation. I do not like Mr. Obama, but would not be happy if harm came to him. I do not mind he is African American, the only good thing I could say about him being in office. I have nothing against catholics, many catholics love Jesus, as much as anyone. That is so sad, you felt isolated in that horrible hate. Your husband, had very wrong thinking, I hope it changed.
                    Blessings LSO

[Gods Servant]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                  Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother's trauma. 

[Jaime]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                 Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother's trauma.  

My parents were AFRAID of electing the first Catholic President. But not as afraid as they were when Johnson became President.

[Gods Servant]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                 Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother's trauma.  

My parents were AFRAID of electing the first Catholic President. But not as afraid as they were when Johnson became President.

I understand that fear.  I remember those times very well.  I would "get it" from two angles.  My mother was Catholic and my father was Jewish.  It seemed that if people wanted to judge me, they used both religions to do so. 

I don't remember how my parents reacted to Johnson becoming President, however, looking back on History, I would have been scared, too.

[lightshineon]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                 Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother's trauma.  

I have heard somewhere GS, that many people thought Dallas was at fault. I wondered why he was in a convertible that dat?. I have always wondered if Johnson, or the Texas Governor had anything to do with that? It just seems very coincidental. Lee Harvey had to know what type of car Kennedy was in, and here to shoot. He had to know who would be sitting where, and that Kennedy was in a convertible. I do not believe it was bullet proof either. Anyone know anything about that. I drive a convertible, and wasn't it a windy day? I always put the top up, for my hairs appearance. Two women, beautiful. fashion conscious women were in the convertible, Jackie in a hat. The point is how would Oswald know, the car JK, would be riding in? Did he always ride in that type of car, or just that November day?

[Snargles]

Back in that simpler time presidents were expected to be out where the people could see them. Folks in Dallas would probably have been insulted if the president had been hidden inside a sedan.

[lightshineon]

Back in that simpler time presidents were expected to be out where the people could see them. Folks in Dallas would probably have been insulted if the president had been hidden inside a sedan.

Well, better an offense than your head splattered. Snargles do you know if JK, always rode in a convertible? Does anyone know?

[Gods Servant]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                 Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother's trauma.  

I have heard somewhere GS, that many people thought Dallas was at fault. I wondered why he was in a convertible that dat?. I have always wondered if Johnson, or the Texas Governor had anything to do with that? It just seems very coincidental. Lee Harvey had to know what type of car Kennedy was in, and here to shoot. He had to know who would be sitting where, and that Kennedy was in a convertible. I do not believe it was bullet proof either. Anyone know anything about that. I drive a convertible, and wasn't it a windy day? I always put the top up, for my hairs appearance. Two women, beautiful. fashion conscious women were in the convertible, Jackie in a hat. The point is how would Oswald know, the car JK, would be riding in? Did he always ride in that type of car, or just that November day?

If I remember correctly, he wanted everyone to feel close to him/see him, so he wanted the top down.  I doubt that would happen these days.

[canuck]

I love Documentaries, last night I watched on good old NetFlix, About John F. Kennedy, and his tragic assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX.  My mom said she remembers what she was doing when she heard. Do any of you remember how you found out? What you were doing? What was your perspective on it all, at the time? Was the country sad for quite awhile? I would like to hear your experience, on the tragedy. If you do not mind will you tell me your story of that day.


                                                  Thanks a bunch

I was in 2nd grade, at the time, attending Catholic School.  First, the Mother Superior made an announcement over the PA system, asking us to pray because the President had been shot.  A short time later, she announced his death.

My mother switched from a Republican to Democrat because she wanted to help elect the "first Catholic President".  I remember returning home from school that day to find my mother in near hysterics. I also remember hating Dallas Texas for a very long time.  As a child, I associated that city with my mother’s trauma. 

I have heard somewhere GS, that many people thought Dallas was at fault. I wondered why he was in a convertible that dat?. I have always wondered if Johnson, or the Texas Governor had anything to do with that? It just seems very coincidental. Lee Harvey had to know what type of car Kennedy was in, and here to shoot. He had to know who would be sitting where, and that Kennedy was in a convertible. I do not believe it was bullet proof either. Anyone know anything about that. I drive a convertible, and wasn't it a windy day? I always put the top up, for my hairs appearance. Two women, beautiful. fashion conscious women were in the convertible, Jackie in a hat. The point is how would Oswald know, the car JK, would be riding in? Did he always ride in that type of car, or just that November day?

If I remember correctly, he wanted everyone to feel close to him/see him, so he wanted the top down.  I doubt that would happen these days.

If we regard the assassination as an "Oswald-only" crime, we can speculate how he would have known about which car JFK was riding in, and why no bullet proof bubble-top in place. But if we see the crime as a conspiracy with Oswald just a "patsy" (as he claimed before the press), it is not difficult to understand how the assassins had sufficient knowledge about the motorcade, its route and the passengers in each of the cars etc. etc.

Theories concerning the conspiracy point to the highest levels of U.S. government being involved and also some of the members of the Dallas Police Dep't.

canuck

[lightshineon]

  I agree about Oswald, and the car and have more questions after watching a five part, documentary called the men that killed Kennedy.

[walker starr]

Back in that simpler time presidents were expected to be out where the people could see them. Folks in Dallas would probably have been insulted if the president had been hidden inside a sedan.

Well, better an offense than your head splattered. Snargles do you know if JK, always rode in a convertible? Does anyone know?

   If some determined wanted to kill him it would have been done no matter what he had ridden in.

[lightshineon]

Back in that simpler time presidents were expected to be out where the people could see them. Folks in Dallas would probably have been insulted if the president had been hidden inside a sedan.

Well, better an offense than your head splattered. Snargles do you know if JK, always rode in a convertible? Does anyone know?

   If some determined wanted to kill him it would have been done no matter what he had ridden in.

Maybe Mr. walker, but, how much easier was a head shot in a convertible?

[Snargles]

Think of all the pictures you have seen of presidents riding in cars before JFK. They were always in open cars. Politicians are always working on the next election so they had to be out where the people could see them. There are a lot of pictures of FDR riding in an open car. You see his smiling face and you just know he is a strong healthy fellow. Who would ever suspect that he couldn't walk? It is all about image. The pope doesn't have to worry about winning re-election but they went around in open cars until John Paul was shot and now they have an enclosed Popemobile.

[lightshineon]

Think of all the pictures you have seen of presidents riding in cars before JFK. They were always in open cars. Politicians are always working on the next election so they had to be out where the people could see them. There are a lot of pictures of FDR riding in an open car. You see his smiling face and you just know he is a strong healthy fellow. Who would ever suspect that he couldn't walk? It is all about image. The pope doesn't have to worry about winning re-election but they went around in open cars until John Paul was shot and now they have an enclosed Popemobile.

Hi, you maybe right Snargles, though I am not sure, but, it seems like maybe once I read, or heard the secret service tried to get him to ride in a different car, that was bullet proof. It all maybe a figmeant of my imagination, but, I thought I heard it somewhee sometime.