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Would you find this disturbing?

Started by lightshineon, Sun May 09, 2010 - 13:09:57

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lightshineon

 My daughter at age two, was in the checkout line at walmart, with my mom. She has talked in complete sentences since she was ten months old. she is so strange ( I mean that in a nice way).  Anyway, she out of the blue tells the checker, " help me I am black, and my name is Tyrone, and this white family has kidnapped me from my real black family." I do not know where she came up with the name Tyrone. She was screaming this out, by the time my mother got out of walmart. She has only bought black barbies, baby dolls and other things. Flip forward to age three, my friend was engaged to a black man named Kenneth, and, they came to my house. Here goes Emily, grabbing Kenneth by the legs as he is leaving begging him to take her back to her black family, she was kidnapped by these white people. My daughter Emily, is more blond than i am, and has very fair skin, and very blue eyes. I am embarrassed, she did this to my friends fiancee' i hope his feelings were not hurt. Does she need professional help? I am serious, she is extremely bright, and those were the only two incidents, but, she is very strong willed to this day, and no amount of explaining made her believe us. Now, she is also obsessed with teeth, afraid of all of her teeth falling out? she is obsessed with the fear, so what is up with this kid? I love her very much, she is my baby, but gee. Has anyone had this problem?

Seriousseeker

Oh yes!  This sounds disturbing.  I would recommend you find a good Christian psychologist and work closely with him if this continues;  otherwise, it may be just something impressed on her by others.  At age 2 or three this sounds a bit extreme and much too articulate.  I am a retired social worker with work in mental health and family problems.

- Seriousseeker

lightshineon

Quote from: Seriousseeker on Sun May 09, 2010 - 13:32:31
Oh yes!  This sounds disturbing.  I would recommend you find a good Christian psychologist and work closely with him if this continues;  otherwise, it may be just something impressed on her by others.  At age 2 or three this sounds a bit extreme and much too articulate.  I am a retired social worker with work in mental health and family problems.

- Seriousseeker


Thank you for your response, is there a mental illness, where there is mix up about racial identity? She no joke, could talk as an infant, never baby talk. She has two older sisters, so I figured she is just bright in that way. We have never said much about black, or white. My friend I mentioned with the black fiancee, married in my home. My other two girls have black friends.  Race is not ever been disccussed in front of her, she is used to different colors of people. She is a very morose child at times, very Strong willed. I do not know where she came up with the name Tyrone either. She is a beautiful little girl, very artistic, very artistic, She mostly has shown this on the walls (LOL). I worry about her complete fear of her teeth falling out. She is obsessed with brushing her teeth., and holds her ears if anyone talks about pulling a tooth, or heaven forbid people with dentures. She is also different, in that I cannot ( I mentioned this before) let her play games like Oregon Trail, she wants to hunt, forget the rest of the game, and is a crack shot. I also broke Laura Kroft Tomb raider, because, she was so skilled at it. I bought her a barbie action game, and she was offended, it was a white barbie, and you hit her with hearts, and butterflies flew out, no violence. She is not violent, my girls rarely hit each other, and it has happened maybe two times. my older brother and I almost killed each other fighting.

I mentioned she has two older sisters, and there is an age difference between the oldest, and youngest, Emily from the first was different than the other two, she cried so much in the nursery, when she was born, the nurses brought her to me, saying the could not quite her. She had colic, and cried straight for four months night and day. My other two never did that, so i was exhausted all the time. I quit school, which  had gone back, to further my education, because I was afraid someone would shake her, because, sometimes, I would just have to lay her in the crib, and turn music on, after all day of crying. I hope Emily, is going to be okay in life.

chosenone

I' m not sure about the first part, but the fear of your teeth falling out is a typical and common fear and anxiety symptom.About 12-15 years ago when I was depressed and having panic attacks etc I often dreamt that my teeth were faling out and sometimes during the day I would think they were loose and were going to fall out.
I would sugegst that she may need prayer and ministry from experienced Christians in this field, to get to the bottom of the first concern. It doesnt sound like normal behaviour for a child who has had no bad or traumatic issues on her life.

lightshineon

Quote from: chosenone on Sun May 09, 2010 - 15:58:11
I' m not sure about the first part, but the fear of your teeth falling out is a typical and common fear and anxiety symptom.About 12-15 years ago when I was depressed and having panic attacks etc I often dreamt that my teeth were faling out and sometimes during the day I would think they were loose and were going to fall out.
I would sugegst that she may need prayer and ministry from experienced Christians in this field, to get to the bottom of the first concern. It doesnt sound like normal behaviour for a child who has had no bad or traumatic issues on her life.


No she is very spoiled, and pampered, by everyone, being the baby. She never hardly goes anywhere without me. That is odd about the teeth, no offense, but I did not know that was a common fear, and due to panic attacks. I am sorry chosen, that must have been terrifying to you.  I know she sounds odd, and she is, but can be very adorable, and very witty. We are just an average family, for the most part, weird quirks like everyone, but pretty stable.

chosenone

Quote from: lightshineon on Sun May 09, 2010 - 19:24:41
Quote from: chosenone on Sun May 09, 2010 - 15:58:11
I' m not sure about the first part, but the fear of your teeth falling out is a typical and common fear and anxiety symptom.About 12-15 years ago when I was depressed and having panic attacks etc I often dreamt that my teeth were faling out and sometimes during the day I would think they were loose and were going to fall out.
I would sugegst that she may need prayer and ministry from experienced Christians in this field, to get to the bottom of the first concern. It doesnt sound like normal behaviour for a child who has had no bad or traumatic issues on her life.


No she is very spoiled, and pampered, by everyone, being the baby. She never hardly goes anywhere without me. That is odd about the teeth, no offense, but I did not know that was a common fear, and due to panic attacks. I am sorry chosen, that must have been terrifying to you.  I know she sounds odd, and she is, but can be very adorable, and very witty. We are just an average family, for the most part, weird quirks like everyone, but pretty stable.

yes I used to think that was just me with this teeth thing but later on I found out that it is quite a common anxiety symptom.As I recovered from the breakdown etc the fear went away.(and my teeth are still here!!!).

lightshineon

Quote from: chosenone on Tue May 11, 2010 - 05:13:30
Quote from: lightshineon on Sun May 09, 2010 - 19:24:41
Quote from: chosenone on Sun May 09, 2010 - 15:58:11
I' m not sure about the first part, but the fear of your teeth falling out is a typical and common fear and anxiety symptom.About 12-15 years ago when I was depressed and having panic attacks etc I often dreamt that my teeth were faling out and sometimes during the day I would think they were loose and were going to fall out.
I would sugegst that she may need prayer and ministry from experienced Christians in this field, to get to the bottom of the first concern. It doesnt sound like normal behaviour for a child who has had no bad or traumatic issues on her life.


No she is very spoiled, and pampered, by everyone, being the baby. She never hardly goes anywhere without me. That is odd about the teeth, no offense, but I did not know that was a common fear, and due to panic attacks. I am sorry chosen, that must have been terrifying to you.  I know she sounds odd, and she is, but can be very adorable, and very witty. We are just an average family, for the most part, weird quirks like everyone, but pretty stable.

yes I used to think that was just me with this teeth thing but later on I found out that it is quite a common anxiety symptom.As I recovered from the breakdown etc the fear went away.(and my teeth are still here!!!).



Oh Chosen, wow, you have conquered many things, you are an inspiration.

lightshineon

 Emily just said " I miss the game Tomb Raider ( Laura Kroft). I said " sorry, not a good game for you sister's and daddy. She said " Oh mommy, you think everything is evil." This kid?????????????????? ::headscratch::

walker starr




   Have patience pray that she will outgrow the stage she is in.

janine

Nothing wrong with talking in complete sentences from the beginning.  Some kids do that.  I did similar, and was reading grown-up material as a very small child.  I've met other little ones like that.

:D The whole "Help me, I'm Tyrone" thing strikes me as very, very funny.  Like, TV sitcom funny, though I'm sure it was embarrassing and maybe a little scary at the time.  That, too, could easily have come up in the imagination of an articulate, intelligent child.

It wouldn't hurt to have her evaluated -- not so much because of these things you describe, but because a very young child with a high-caliber imagination and mind can use all the guidance and support there is out there to develop to the fullest.  She might have some quirk or way about her that wouldn't be a problem in a more middle-of-the-road kid, a less imaginative, less demonstrative child, but in her it could be a problem.

lightshineon

Quote from: janine on Tue May 11, 2010 - 20:10:39
Nothing wrong with talking in complete sentences from the beginning.  Some kids do that.  I did similar, and was reading grown-up material as a very small child.  I've met other little ones like that.

:D The whole "Help me, I'm Tyrone" thing strikes me as very, very funny.  Like, TV sitcom funny, though I'm sure it was embarrassing and maybe a little scary at the time.  That, too, could easily have come up in the imagination of an articulate, intelligent child.

It wouldn't hurt to have her evaluated -- not so much because of these things you describe, but because a very young child with a high-caliber imagination and mind can use all the guidance and support there is out there to develop to the fullest.  She might have some quirk or way about her that wouldn't be a problem in a more middle-of-the-road kid, a less imaginative, less demonstrative child, but in her it could be a problem.


It was funny later, not at the time, my mom said the checker, was disturbed. So if she is like you Janine, she will be just fine. Thank you all.

ela

Quote from: lightshineon on Tue May 11, 2010 - 22:47:12
Quote from: janine on Tue May 11, 2010 - 20:10:39
Nothing wrong with talking in complete sentences from the beginning.  Some kids do that.  I did similar, and was reading grown-up material as a very small child.  I've met other little ones like that.

:D The whole "Help me, I'm Tyrone" thing strikes me as very, very funny.  Like, TV sitcom funny, though I'm sure it was embarrassing and maybe a little scary at the time.  That, too, could easily have come up in the imagination of an articulate, intelligent child.

It wouldn't hurt to have her evaluated -- not so much because of these things you describe, but because a very young child with a high-caliber imagination and mind can use all the guidance and support there is out there to develop to the fullest.  She might have some quirk or way about her that wouldn't be a problem in a more middle-of-the-road kid, a less imaginative, less demonstrative child, but in her it could be a problem.


It was funny later, not at the time, my mom said the checker, was disturbed. So if she is like you Janine, she will be just fine. Thank you all.

I taught preschool and directed in ECE for over 20 yrs and had kids like her....genious level. However, kids who are genious level intelligence are normally (I am sorry to put it this way) a lil' lop-sided in the other areas...emotionally, socially and in abstract thinking skills. They glom onto info quickly but do not really know what to do with it. I would suggest, for instance, when she says things like she did in the store that you not let it go, but chat about it....use it for a teaching/growth opportunity. She is obviously ready for more then the typical child her age...as she is dealing...or rather her brain is dealing with, issues and thoughts that most kids her age don't....so, therefore, it is a good idea to discuss and help her deal with these various events that happen...as her brain apparently needs it.

Also, I would suggest you help her by setting boundaries...there is a great book by Henry Cloud about kids and boundaries...as she is not really sure what to do with her intellect being 'bigger' then her age, she will need help with self-control and knowing when certain things are appropriate and when not. These kids need a lot of direction as they are carrying more around with them, which can cause more stress, then the average kid.

Take care...

janine

A kid interviews his Mom for Story Corps.

Some of my people I correspond with and participate in online discussions with, have various social quirks; some have Asperger's, like the boy in the interview.  Not to say that your kid has any syndrome at all, of any kind -- but we are all different, surely, and it may just be that she "ticks" differently than anyone else you know.

lightshineon

 LOL, I know she is weird, or in a nicer way marches to a different beat. She. though is very affectionate and merciful in many ways. She is so cute, sorry maybe only to me, but she is pretty, with huge blue eyes, and fat cheeks. Janine, that is interesting, I will look at this. To the preschool teacher, I understand, sometimes if people are very smart,or a prodigies in music art, math and such, or really anything. There are social skill problems. Sometimes she like to just play normal, with a doll house with it's African American, mixed with white family dolls. (LOL), or with other kids with a farm, with rubber horse, sheep, and dog. You all know which toy I am talking about. She did cut her blond barbies hair into a Afro, to the best of her abilities. yeah she is strange, but, would not trade her. (LOL)

Eagle

A million years a ago   I read/heard a story about a missairy family in Africa who couldn't find their child...One might think a blond child in the villiage would be easy to spot.  They found her covered with mud  she just wanted to be like everyone else. Could it be she is trying to be what she thinks you want her to be?

Our baby brother walked at 71/2 monthes spoke as your child does.... age 2 ... A lady asked  " and what would you like to drink" Chuck replied " make mine an Oly"  Never had there even been beer in our home....

When Chuck was born  the oldest was 20 , 15, 12, 8,  We taught him well.:)  He said LOTS of off the wall stuff.  We thought he was 'goofy'  .  Light, his mama and daddy prayed always. You have the same God....He is now a fine doctor with a great warming bedside mannor.

lightshineon

Quote from: Eagle on Sun May 16, 2010 - 09:02:12
A million years a ago   I read/heard a story about a missairy family in Africa who couldn't find their child...One might think a blond child in the villiage would be easy to spot.  They found her covered with mud  she just wanted to be like everyone else. Could it be she is trying to be what she thinks you want her to be?

Our baby brother walked at 71/2 monthes spoke as your child does.... age 2 ... A lady asked  " and what would you like to drink" Chuck replied " make mine an Oly"  Never had there even been beer in our home....

When Chuck was born  the oldest was 20 , 15, 12, 8,  We taught him well.:)  He said LOTS of off the wall stuff.  We thought he was 'goofy'  .  Light, his mama and daddy prayed always. You have the same God....He is now a fine doctor with a great warming bedside mannor.

LOL, your baby brother sounds like Emily, except she walked late, as did all my girls. Emily is just unique, maybe like a cross between your brother and the missionary child. i am glad your brother is such a great person I do not know why she wants to be black? I do not know why she is a crack Annie Oakley shot. Going to bass Pro shops shooting range, puts most to shame, mainly me. Wow that is funny about the beer, I bet it caused a brew ha ha. (LOL)  She started crying about her teeth last night fearful she had a cavity, now that makes me sad.

vonny

You know, someone mentioned that your child sounds very intelligent, and I was going to say the same thing. Sometimes intelligent people can be anxious, I think.

Strangely, I used to have concerns about teeth falling out, and still do...even dreams from time to time in the past about knocking one out or biting down too hard and shattering a tooth, lol...must means I'm super intelligent...not!  rofl

AvrilNYC

Dear lightshineon

Your daughter sounds like my daughter 5 years ago. As it turned out, my daughter had anxiety and had used little obsessions to cope with her anxiety. My daughter's anxiety was caused by specific triggers (moving to a new school and a new house, being two of them).

Were there any significant triggers in your case. Any way, my daughter is fine now. Still a little bit anxious when things change (e.g., new school) but doing great academically.

Part of the problem with my daughter (as it was explained to me by an "expert") was that her (very high) IQ was much higher than her emotional maturity. So her ability to understand difficult subjects, sometimes emotionally overwhelmed her.

To add some "religion" to the story. My daughter's problems took a sharp turn for the better the day after I prayed to Jesus to help her (that was 5 years ago).

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