Genesis 1:26-27

[TheGenuineChristian]

Throughout the Creation chapter (which consistently calls God אֱלֹהִים, the verbs are all singular):
וַיֹּֽאמֶר vayomer ("and HE said

[revmitchell]

[TheGenuineChristian]

LOL. Typical.

[Lively Stone]

Hi, Carla! 

[larry2]

Hi, Carla! 

I think you've nailed the source. 

[TheGenuineChristian]

Hi, Carla! 

I think you've nailed the source. 

Eh? You think I'm this "Carla"?

[HypakoeDoulos]

JESUS CHRIST asks us to "search the scriptures

[HypakoeDoulos]

Now let us consider the "Us, Our, We

[HypakoeDoulos]

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: - Matthew 28:19

"name" is singular. Father, and of Son and of the Holy Ghost (Spirit); plurality of persons.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD: - Deuteronomy 6:4

"one" is unity. 'Echad, not yachid.

The Father is not the person of the Son, though He is in the Son. The Son is not the person of the Father, though He is in the Father, and like wise for the Holy Spirit, being His own person, and in them, and they in Him.

"in the name" ..... that name is "YHWH" - Exodus 6:3. A name they share.

Within the Godhead, they comprise 3 persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit are 'one LORD' (Deut 6:4).

Let us look at the "first born

[TheGenuineChristian]

Micah 5:1-3 Bethlehem—Ephratah—you are too small to be among the thousands of Judah, but from you someone will emerge for Me to be a ruler over Israel; and his going forth is from from eternity, from ancient days. Therefore, He will deliver them [to their enemies] until the time that a woman in child-birth gives birth; then the rest of his brothers will return with the Children of Israel. He will stand up and lead with the strength of Yhvh, with the majesty of the Name of Yhvh his God. They will settle [in peace], for at that time he will be great to the ends of the earth.

First, he can't be Yhvh for Yhvh is his God. Second, says mikedem mimay olam which means your going forth is from eternity. Not that he is from eternity, but his going forth, his origin. This is simply before the creation of galaxies, and eventually the sun and earth, by which we determine time. His origin is from that place, before the concept of time. Revelation 3:14 confirms this when it says 'The beginning of the creation of God' showing that he is the first thing God created before anything else, everything else God created through him which makes him a unique creation of God.

As for Preparing the Way for the Lord, this is referring to preparing the Father to enter the Son through the Holy Spirit which he did at baptism.

As for John 8:58, if Jesus is quoting Exodus 3:14 instead of claiming pre-human existence then we have to look at the next verse, verse 15 says the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacon, the God of our forefathers and who is this according to Apostle Peter? It's no other than the Father as he says in Acts 3:13 that the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the God of our forefathers has glorified his child Jesus. Thus, if you want to connect John 8:58 to Exodus 3:14-15 then you have Jesus claiming to be the Father, Modalism/Oneness. This is rejected by 2 John 3, Jesus is the Father's Son, not the Father himself thereby nullifying your attempt. In Exodus 3:14 the Hebrew word is EHYEH (which is also used in Exodus 3:12 and is translated as "I WILL BE") which is in the QAL IMPERFECT which means it goes into the future; I WILL BE. You can't even literally say 'I AM' in Hebrew. At most you can say ANI, "I." You can, however, IMPLY "I" as in "ANI ADAM" (I [am] Adam). ANI is not used in Exodus 3:14. You have no case.

Surely you didn't think you were going to prove that Jesus is the Almighty God, did you?

[TheGenuineChristian]

I'm off to work and then when I get back off to bed. I'll bring the rebuttals to your other "proof texts" tomorrow. It's so easy to refute, no sweat at all...can do it with one hand while yawning. 

[HypakoeDoulos]

Please continue reading the actual responses:

Covenant maker:

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: - Jeremiah 31:31

(see also Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:8,10, 10:16)

It was Jesus who made that Covenant and confirmed it by His own promise and blood (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 26:28; Mark 14:24).

Jesus is Jacob's Ladder. Jesus is Jacob's God:

Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. - Exodus 3:6

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. - Exodus 6:3

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. - Genesis 32:30

And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padanaram, and blessed him. - Genesis 35:9

And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me, - Genesis 48:3

That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. - Exodus 4:5

The LORD of hosts [is] with us; the God of Jacob [is] our refuge. Selah. - Psalms 46:7

The LORD of hosts [is] with us; the God of Jacob [is] our refuge. Selah. - Psalms 46:11

"...shall call his name Immanuel." - Isaiah 7:14

"...call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." - Matthew 1:23

Look at who believed...

And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, - Acts 7:2

I have seen, I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am come down to deliver them. And now come, I will send thee into Egypt. - Acts 7:34

And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. - Acts 7:60

[HypakoeDoulos]

And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending anddescending on it . - Genesis 28:12

And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. - John 1:51

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. - 1 Timothy 3:16

HUSBAND yet still further...

For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. - Isaiah 54:5

Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion. - Jeremiah 3:14

For [as] a young man marrieth a virgin, [so] shall thy sons marry thee: and [as] the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, [so] shall thy God rejoice over thee. - Isaiah 62:5

And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast. - Matthew 9:15

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. - Matthew 25:1

While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. - Matthew 25:5

And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. - Matthew 25:10

And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. - Mark 2:19

But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. - Mark 2:20

And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? - Luke 5:34

But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. - Luke 5:35

He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. - John 3:29

Arche...

(A significant example of ARCHE from the first century A.D. occurs in Josephus' Antiquities, 8.280.  In this passage, Josephus calls God: ARCHE KAI TELOS TWN hAPANTWN ("the beginning and the end of all things").  Here, again, we see "beginning" in the sense of source, not first in a series; just as we see "end" in the sense of goal or purpose, not last in a series.  If Josephus can speak of God as the ARCHE  of all things, without intending to imply that He was first-created, John certainly can say the same of the Son of God.)

(One interesting historical side-note:  Rev. 3:14 was never mentioned as a proof-text during the Arian controversy.)

(Arche) (In Jhn 8:25, Christ's reply to the question "Who art Thou?," "Even that which I have spoken unto you from the beginning," does not mean that He had told them before; He declares that He is consistently the unchanging expression of His own teaching and testimony from the first, the immutable embodiment of His doctrine.) (the origin, the active cause, whether a person or thing, e.g., Col 1:18.) (In the following passages the AV faulty translations, "since the world began," etc. are rightly rendered in the RV by "before times eternal" and similar phrases, Rom 16:25; Eph 3:9; 2Ti 1:9; Tts 1:2. The alteration has not been made, however, in Luk 1:70; Jhn 9:32; Act 3:21; 15:18.) ((1) beginning, ORIGIN, (3) that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause; Strong's Concordance)

(The "ruler" (arche, "source," "origin") further amplifies the Amen statement. Paul used arche in Colossians 1:18 to describe Christ as the source or origin of all creation (not the first created; cf. Prov 8:22; John 1:3), no doubt to correct a heresy. Since Colosse was a neighboring city of Laodicea, it is not improbable that the same heresy was also affecting the sister church at Laodicea. But this is not explicit. What is plain is this: When Christ addresses a church that is failing in loyalty and obedience, he is to them the "Amen" of God in faithfulness and in true witness, the only one who has absolute power over the world because he is the source and origin of all creation (1:17; 2:8; 22:13) (EBC).)

(The beginning of the creation of God (hê archê tês ktiseôs tou theou). Not the first of creatures as the Arians held and Unitarians do now, but the originating source of creation through whom God works (Col 1:15, 18, a passage probably known to the Laodiceans, John 1:3; Heb 1:2, as is made clear by 1:18; 2:8; 3:21; 5:13) (RWP).)

[HypakoeDoulos]

Who raised JESUS from the Dead?

So JESUS [GOD the SON] did: Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. John 2:19 and No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John 10:18

So GOD the FATHER did: Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places], Ephesians 1:20 and Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:4 and Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) Galatians 1:1 and And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 1:10

So GOD the HOLY SPIRIT did: But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Romans 8:11 and For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 1 Peter 3:18

[HypakoeDoulos]

God is from everlasting.

The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2

Jesus is from everlasting.

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

Might be a duplicate or two...

God never changes.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Jesus never changes.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

God is the only Saviour.
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11
To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12

God our Saviour. Titus 2:10
...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10
God my Saviour. Luke 1:47

Jesus is the only Saviour.
...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18
...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1
...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42
...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4
a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11
Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
--Acts 4:12
...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
--2 Timothy 2:10
...captain of their salvation [Jesus] perfect through sufferings.
-- Heb 2:10
[Jesus]...author of eternal salvation...
-- Heb 5:9

God created the universe and earth by Himself.
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself. Isaiah 44:24
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

Jesus Christ created the universe and the earth.
Unto the Son he saith...Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. Hebrews 1:10
y him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth...all things were created by him, and for him. Colossians 1:16
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

God is the Word.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God John 1:1

Jesus is the Word.
...the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...John 1:14

God is the first and the last.
I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4

Jesus is the first and the last.
Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17

God forgives sins.
[T]he Lord..forgiveth all thine iniquities... Psalm 103:2-3
"[W]ho can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7

Jesus forgives sins.
Jesus...said..."Son, thy sins be forgiven thee." Mark 2:5

God is our redeemer.
[T]hou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer.. Isaiah 63:16

Jesus redeemed us.
[T]the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity.. Titus 2:13-14

God is from everlasting.
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2

Jesus is from everlasting.
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

Only God is glorified.
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another... Isaiah 42:8

God glorified Jesus.
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5
[A]ll men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. John 5:23
But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8

God is 'I am'.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

Jesus is 'I am'.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58

God heals all diseases.
Bless the LORD...who healeth all thy diseases. Psalms 103:2

Jesus heals all diseases.
[Jesus] healed all that were sick. Matthew 8:16

God is the Judge of the whole earth.
O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2
[Abraham to God]...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Genesis 18:25

Jesus is the Judge of the whole earth.
[T]he Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 5:22

Jehovah (Yahweh) knows "all things.

[HypakoeDoulos]

The OT gives us more evidence of who JESUS is...

Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he. Isaiah 41:4 [Compare also to Revelation 1:11, 2:8,19, 22:13]

4tis enhrghsen kai epoihsen tauta ekalesen authn o kalwn authn apo genewn archs egw qeos prwtos kai eis ta epercomena egw eimi Isaiah 41:4; LXX Septuagint

Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isaiah 43:10

10genesqe moi martures kagw martus legei kurios o qeos kai o pais on exelexamhn ina gnwte kai pisteushte kai sunhte oti egw eimi emprosqen mou ouk egeneto allos qeos kai met¢ eme ouk estai Isaiah 43:10; LXX Septuagint

And [even] to [your] old age I [am] he; and [even] to hoar hairs will I carry [you]: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver [you]. Isaiah 46:4

4ews ghrous egw eimi kai ews an kataghrashte egw eimi egw anecomai umwn egw epoihsa kai egw anhsw egw analhmyomai kai swsw umas Isaiah 46:4; LXX Septuagint

Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore [they shall know] in that day that I [am] he that doth speak: behold, [it is] I. Isaiah 52:6

6dia touto gnwsetai o laos mou to onoma mou en th hmera ekeinh oti egw eimi autos o lalwn pareimi Isaiah 52:6; LXX Septuagint

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:18

18outws legei kurios o poihsas ton ouranon outos o qeos o katadeixas thn ghn kai poihsas authn autos diwrisen authn ouk eis kenon epoihsen authn alla katoikeisqai egw eimi kai ouk estin eti Isaiah 45:18; LXX Septuagint

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

14kai eipen o qeos pros mwushn egw eimi o wn kai eipen outws ereis tois uiois israhl o wn apestalken me pros umas Exodus 3:14; LXX Septuagint

Since John wrote Revelation, consider that John does not contradict himself [when he writes that the FATHER is GOD] in all of the other passages, JESUS is GOD [not the person of the FATHER, but rather the person of the SON] by his own words...

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

From everlasting to everlasting JESUS was, without father, without mother, without beginning...

JESUS was always with the FATHER.  JESUS is GOD.

The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:2

JESUS [the same] was in the beginning with the FATHER.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3

All things were made by JESUS, therefore JESUS is unmade.  Without JESUS not any single thing that was made was made without HIM.  Therefore JESUS made all things and is again unmade.

[That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. John 1:9

JESUS is the True Light which lights every man that comes into the world.  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. John 1:10

JESUS was in the world which was made by HIM, yet the world knew HIM not.  Again John clearly identifies JESUS as the Creator of all things, including this world.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. John 1:11

JESUS came to HIS own people, which were chosen by HIM, yet they received HIM not and was rejected of them.

John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. John 1:15

John the Baptist bared witness that JESUS was before himself in existence, and that he was unworthy of HIM.  JESUS also declares this, that HE is the I AM. See John 8:58 and others, as well as the Isaiah 41:4, 43:10, 45:18, 46:4, 52:6 and Exodus 3:14 passages.  It is important, for JESUS said, many would come in HIS Name, saying "I AM"...and deceiving many.

JESUS gave instruction as to those who would not believe that HE is the I AM...

He said, I [am] the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. John 1:23

John [as well as each of the Gospels - four witnesses] spake of John the Baptist as saying, that he [John the Baptist] was the voice of the one crying in the wilderness which was to make straight the way of the LORD [YHWH], GOD in the flesh.

Isaiah is quoted:

The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Isaiah 40:3

The word LORD is YHWH of which each of the Gospels quote.  John directly addresses this passage to JESUS CHRIST as being HIM.  Which directly goes with 1 Timothy 3:16.

[HypakoeDoulos]

The sea [is] his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry [land]. Psalms 95:5

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. Isaiah 45:12

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:18

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3

I can say "I built my house." and still be speaking the Truth even if I drew the plans and had others do the work of putting it together and having payed a great sum for them to then build according to the plan I had made, and used others like electricians, or plumbers, or masons, or "master builders" etc, but if I were to then say after using all of these, "I myself have built my house with my own hands." I would then be speaking that which is a lie.  Look unto CHRIST on the Cross...as Moses lifted up the Brazen Serpent upon the pole in the wilderness...so CHRIST was lifted up...and would draw all to HIMSELF...

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:22

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. John 12:32

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25

[HypakoeDoulos]

JESUS appeared to them all, since as John says, that "no man has seen GOD

[HypakoeDoulos]

Look at Isaiah 46:

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, - Isaiah 46:9

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:10

Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am [he]. John 13:19

Again the [he] is absent from the greek.

[HypakoeDoulos]

The Commandments of GOD:

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Exodus 20:6

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments. Deuteronomy 5:10

Look also closer at the 4th Commandment:

For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:11

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Revelation 14:7

Now look again at John 1:1-3, etc.

[HypakoeDoulos]

I pray that any who read this evidence really and truly consider those things therein, and more yet could be said, but please ask GOD for HIS HOLY SPIRIT to help in the study and do not reject HIM, for HE loves you and wants you to know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free, and if the SON set you free, you shall be free indeed...

...from the pen of the inspired Prophet of God...

"If men reject the testimony of the inspired Scriptures concerning the deity of Christ, it is in vain to argue the point with them; for no argument, however conclusive, could convince them. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:14. None who hold this error can have a true conception of the character or the mission of Christ, or of the great plan of God for man's redemption."  -- The Great Controversy, E. G. White, p. 524. {7ABC 440.2}

[Lively Stone]

E G White is not a prophet of God. Thanks for revealing your true colours.

[HypakoeDoulos]

E G White is not a prophet of God. Thanks for revealing your true colours.

That I am a Seventh Day Adventist is not hidden, for those colours were shown from the beginning, and perhaps you may consider the study on Prophets here:

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/apologetics-and-faith/prophets-true-and-false-and-is-this-gift-still-in-the-body-of-christ/

The Great Disappointment was directly shown from the scriptures.  One may also go back into the scriptures and consider the typology of Israel before the promised land there as well.

If you would like to test her writings by the scriptures then we can do so, in that thread.  If you will notice that it was the scriptures that are directly given in evidence.  The "testimony of Jesus Christ" was given to also confirm them.