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Another Comforter?

Started by gospel, Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:11:23

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gospel

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16


Another like whom?

The answer? Himself

Another like Himself

Does this not mean that Jesus is the Comforter, the Counselor, the Advocate and the Helper speaking as a man, wrapped in human flesh is saying another like Him will come but this time in spirit and not in human flesh

Hmmm...doesn't that mean the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one in the same?


You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9

Once again we see the 3 in 1 God in the scriptures

Your thoughts?

John Zain

Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:11:23
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16
Another like whom?
The answer? Himself
Another like Himself
Does this not mean that Jesus is the Comforter, the Counselor, the Advocate and the Helper speaking as a man,
wrapped in human flesh is saying another like Him will come but this time in spirit and not in human flesh
Hmmm...doesn't that mean the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one in the same

Somehow you missed it ... no one's perfect.
The "another" means another One of the Incredible Triune Godhead.
Or, if anyone prefers, another Person of the Trinity.
.

daq

Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:11:23
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16


Another like whom?

The answer? Himself

Another like Himself

Does this not mean that Jesus is the Comforter, the Counselor, the Advocate and the Helper speaking as a man, wrapped in human flesh is saying another like Him will come but this time in spirit and not in human flesh

Hmmm...doesn't that mean the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one in the same


You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9

Once again we see the 3 in 1 God in the scriptures

Your thoughts?

So far, from what you have presented as evidence, what I perceive does not add up to "3 in 1" as you suggest but rather "2 AS 1". Do you have any more Scripture evidence? I also find this:

1 John 2:1
1.  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (GSN#3875 parakletos) with the Father, Yeshua Christon, the righteous:


Strong's Ref. #3875
Romanized  parakletos
Pronounced par-ak'-lay-tos
an intercessor, consoler:
KJV--advocate, comforter.

::smile::

gospel

Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:31:11
Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:11:23
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16


Another like whom?

The answer? Himself

Another like Himself

Does this not mean that Jesus is the Comforter, the Counselor, the Advocate and the Helper speaking as a man, wrapped in human flesh is saying another like Him will come but this time in spirit and not in human flesh

Hmmm...doesn't that mean the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one in the same


You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9

Once again we see the 3 in 1 God in the scriptures

Your thoughts?

So far, from what you have presented as evidence, what I perceive does not add up to "3 in 1" as you suggest but rather "2 AS 1". Do you have any more Scripture evidence? I also find this:

1 John 2:1
1.  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (GSN#3875 parakletos) with the Father, Yeshua Christon, the righteous:


Strong's Ref. #3875
Romanized  parakletos
Pronounced par-ak'-lay-tos
an intercessor, consoler:
KJV--advocate, comforter.

::smile::

You're correct...for the point of this thread was to emphasize for a change, the Oneness of Jesus and the Spirit of God

I figure if we can get that far we might get somewhere in that if naysayers of the Trinity can all agree that

God's Spirit is God, for we know God is a Spirit

And

Jesus is sending another just like Himself

Then.....

::announcment:: HELLO! Houston we have ignition!

And you're right in pointing out the similarities in titles

Jesus is the Counselor and so is the Holy Spirit

Jesus is the Advocate and so is the Holy Spirit

Jesus is the Master Teacher and so is the Holy Spirit

Jesus is the Shepherd that leads and guides and the Holy Spirit is given to lead and guide



daq

Also there is this:

Isaiah 53:11-12
11.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12.  Therefore will I divide him a portion [in] the great, (#7227 rab -many) and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he took away (#5375 nasa' -to lift up) the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


YHWH states He will DIVIDE-APPORTION His Servant IN the many because he poured out his soul unto death and took away our iniquities and sins; bearing the penalty and "wages" of sin, which is death, in our place.

Acts 2:1-3
1.  And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2.  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3.  And there appeared unto them cloven (#1266 diamerizo -divided-partitioned) tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.


Strong's Ref. # 1266
Romanized  diamerizo
Pronounced dee-am-er-id'-zo
from GSN1223 and GSN3307; to partition thoroughly (literally in distribution, figuratively in dissension):
KJV--cloven, divide, part.

Also there is this:

John 7:39 YGB (Young's Literal Bible
39.  and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

John 7:37-39
37.  In the last day, that great day of the feast, (Sukkot-Tabernacles) Yeshua stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38.  He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39.  But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him were about to receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet; because the Yeshua was not yet glorified.


::smile::

gospel

Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 19:39:19
Also there is this:

Isaiah 53:11-12
11.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12.  Therefore will I divide him a portion [in] the great, (#7227 rab -many) and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he took away (#5375 nasa' -to lift up) the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


YHWH states He will DIVIDE-APPORTION His Servant IN the many because he poured out his soul unto death and took away our iniquities and sins; bearing the penalty and "wages" of sin, which is death, in our place.

Acts 2:1-3
1.  And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2.  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3.  And there appeared unto them cloven (#1266 diamerizo -divided-partitioned) tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.


Strong's Ref. # 1266
Romanized  diamerizo
Pronounced dee-am-er-id'-zo
from GSN1223 and GSN3307; to partition thoroughly (literally in distribution, figuratively in dissension):
KJV--cloven, divide, part.

Also there is this:

John 7:39 YGB (Young's Literal Bible
39.  and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

John 7:37-39
37.  In the last day, that great day of the feast, (Sukkot-Tabernacles) Yeshua stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38.  He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39.  But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him were about to receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet; because the Yeshua was not yet glorified.


::smile::

daq.... I actually understand you, in this I take great delight!

And I agree with you as well

Manna!

daq

And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

For some reason, verse 18 always gets left off:

John 14:18 KJV - I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Jarrod

daq

#8
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 00:44:08
For some reason, verse 18 always gets left off:

John 14:18 KJV - I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Jarrod

Perhaps it is for the same reason that often times you will see John 3:13 quoted but for some strange reason the tendency is to leave off the end of the verse:

John 3:13
13.  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, except but THE-HE that from the heaven came down: and the Son of man which is in heaven.


Who is the "THE" or "HE" that from the heaven came down?
See Matthew 3:16 quoted and underlined above ...
::smile::

Kindle

John 14:18

"I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

Isaiah 51:12

"I, I am he who comforts you; who are you that you are afraid of man who dies, of the son of man who is made like grass,  that you forget the LORD your maker."

The question is: Is it the same voice speaking?  ::smile::

gospel

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 00:44:08
For some reason, verse 18 always gets left off:

John 14:18 KJV - I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Jarrod

Excellent Point!!!!!

Quote from: Kindle on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 10:40:59
John 14:18

"I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

Isaiah 51:12

"I, I am he who comforts you; who are you that you are afraid of man who dies, of the son of man who is made like grass,  that you forget the LORD your maker."

The question is: Is it the same voice speaking?  ::smile::

Outstanding!!!!

Manna to you both!

gospel

#11
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

Nevertheless if the Spirit of God is God and The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ they are all One in the same. If He is another, just like Jesus and He is also God,

CLEARLY what we have here is a 3 IN ONE

The Spirit of God is not an it NOR is He an inanimate force or power

The Spirit of God is a person clearly referred to as He, an intelligent discerning person who can give instructions, teach, lead and has feelings

In the Book of Acts The Holy Spirit is clearly in charge, He is God, He is doing all His work through the Apostles.
The acts of the apostles are His Acts!
He is speaking through them,
He is telling the Apostles where to go and what to do,
He is manifesting and speaking though all those Who Receive Jesus,
He is telling them where not to go
He is telling the Apostles when people are lying or speaking truth,
He is healing and He is prophesying and He is doing all of this in the Name of Jesus

He will only speak those things He hears
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

The Spirit glorifies Jesus and Jesus glorifies the Father, The Father glorifies the Son neither of them ever glorifies Himself

He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you.John 16:14


All things Belong to Jesus

All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you John 16:15

The Holy Spirit is God but He will only take from those things of Jesus!

It's unimaginable to me that anyone that is actually in fellowship and communion with God in His Word can not be shaken to the core with a revelation of the Trinity in these verses

There is so much there, it is so very very rich!

Thank You Lord Jesus for making your Word clear!!

John Zain

Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:40:15
God's Spirit is God, for we know God is a Spirit

Jesus is sending another just like Himself

God's angels are spirits, for we know God is a spirit. Just sayin'.

The Father is sending another just like Jesus.

gospel

Quote from: John Zain on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 14:11:50
Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:40:15
God's Spirit is God, for we know God is a Spirit

Jesus is sending another just like Himself

God's angels are spirits, for we know God is a spirit. Just sayin'.

The Father is sending another just like Jesus.


What are you trying to say?

The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God is the "another"....agreed?

So God's Spirit whom is God and also referred to as the Spirit of Christ is the "another" who is like Jesus

Another comforter, counselor, advocate, teacher, leader....

Just like Jesus

The Spirit of God is also called The Spirit of Truth......in the same way Jesus is THE TRUTH!

Yet The Holy Spirit is God because He is The Spirit of God

The same Spirit of God which Jesus had without measure...which is why Jesus could boldly declare when you have seen Me you have seen the Father

The Same Spirit whom without fail confirmed Jesus earthly ministry


The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,

Luke 4:18 / Isaiah 61:1



John Zain

Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:40:15
Jesus is sending another just like Himself

I was just pointing out that ...
the Father will be the One sending "another" Helper/Comforter/Paraclete,
in relation to our passage John 14:16-26.

gospel

Quote from: John Zain on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 15:24:22
Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:40:15
Jesus is sending another just like Himself

I was just pointing out that ...
the Father will be the One sending "another" Helper/Comforter/Paraclete,
in relation to our passage John 14:16-26.


Hmmm... I see  ::pondering::

God is sending Himself

First He came in the form of a man

That means as a Spirit, God is coming in the form of His Spirit and He is the another whom like Jesus is the one in same counselor, teacher, advocate, comforter, guide and Truth of God

This is good stuff!!!!

John Zain

Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 15:31:24
Quote from: John Zain on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 15:24:22
Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:40:15
Jesus is sending another just like Himself

I was just pointing out that ...
the Father will be the One sending "another" Helper/Comforter/Paraclete,
in relation to our passage John 14:16-26.

Hmmm... I see  ::pondering::
God is sending Himself
First He came in the form of a man
That means as a Spirit, God is coming in the form of His Spirit and He is the another whom like Jesus is the one in same counselor, teacher, advocate, comforter, guide and Truth of God
This is good stuff!!!!

Yes, but I think it takes spiritual revelation to see some of this,
i.e. one sure doesn't get it by just reading black words on white paper.
E.g. Muslims have no idea what the NT is saying.

They are 3 Persons, aren't They?
Father God sent God the Son to inhabit a baby who was named "Jesus".
Later, the Father sent a Replacement for Jesus (God the Son) who ascended to heaven.
That replacement was the Holy Spirit.

Maybe we should say the original Comforter/Helper was Jesus
who certainly comforted/helped us in many ways, right?

BornToReign

Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB


gospel

Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB



Of course you agree...you are among those who though knowing the scripture haven't connected the dots as of yet, but you love Jesus so you'll come around...one day. I am sure of it!  ::noworries::

Since you agree with a response that has been successfully rebutted 
Let's see if we can try this again

I think we all agree ....

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God in other words The Spirit of God and God are one in the same

The Holy Spirit is also the "another" Jesus referred to

Another means one like Jesus, so Jesus said I will pray the Father He send another like me, another Counselor, another Comforter, another Advocate, another Helper, another Teacher, another Leader, another Guide and another Truth.

See?

Everything that Jesus is, The Holy Spirit is another just like Him


Yet the Holy Spirit is God, His Spirit...the Spirit of God

Furthermore

Jesus is the Truth and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

How we doing so far?   ::smile::

Add to that the Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Christ well by golly what we have here is nothing short of a 3 in One God

For if the Spirit of God is also the Spirit of Christ then they are indeed One in the Same!

Keep in mind Christ is not Jesus last name but rather a title,

It means The Anointed One

So Jesus was The Christ and not coincidentally The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God..... God's Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ!

That's a lot to take in at one time so lets just leave it right there for now....shall we?  ::shrug::

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

Last I read we are a temple of God and God's Spirit dwells in us...right?

1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

Let him who has ears hear.....What the Spirit is saying


BornToReign

Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:39:25
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB



Of course you agree...you are among those who though knowing the scripture haven't connected the dots as of yet, but you love Jesus so you'll come around...one day. I am sure of it!  ::noworries::

Since you agree with a response that has been successfully rebutted  
Let's see if we can try this again

I think we all agree ....

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God in other words The Spirit of God and God are one in the same

The Holy Spirit is also the "another" Jesus referred to

Another means one like Jesus, so Jesus said I will pray the Father He send another like me, another Counselor, another Comforter, another Advocate, another Helper, another Teacher, another Leader, another Guide and another Truth.

See?

Everything that Jesus is, The Holy Spirit is another just like Him


Yet the Holy Spirit is God, His Spirit...the Spirit of God

Furthermore

Jesus is the Truth and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

How we doing so far?   ::smile::

Add to that the Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Christ well by golly what we have here is nothing short of a 3 in One God

For if the Spirit of God is also the Spirit of Christ then they are indeed One in the Same!

Keep in mind Christ is not Jesus last name but rather a title,

It means The Anointed One

So Jesus was The Christ and not coincidentally The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God..... God's Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ!

That's a lot to take in at one time so lets just leave it right there for now....shall we?  ::shrug::

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

Last I read we are a temple of God and God's Spirit dwells in us...right?

1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

Let him who has ears hear.....What the Spirit is saying



I say they Two are One. They are Two, not three.

There is one body and one Spirit, just as when you were called you were called to one hope. And there is one Lord, one trust, one immersion, and one God, the Father of all, who rules over all, works through all and is in all

The Father is the Spirit and the Son is His body, His Word in the flesh.

Everyone who goes ahead and does not remain true to what the Messiah has taught does not have God. Those who remain true to his teaching have both the Father and the Son.

If someone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, don't welcome him into your home. Don't even say, "Shalom!" to him; for the person who says, "Shalom!" to him shares in his evil deeds.
 -2John 1:8-10 CJB


But you have received the Messiah's anointing from HaKadosh, and you know all this.
It is not because you don't know the truth that I have written to you, but because you do know it, and because no lie has its origin in the truth.

Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he is denying the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father, but the person who acknowledges the Son has the Father as well.

Let what you heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you will also remain in union with both the Son and the Father. And this is what he has promised us: eternal life.
 -1John2:20-25 CJB

John Zain

Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:39:25
However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.
But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
 Romans 8:9

Connected with this is ...

Romans 8:
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.


And this is the sanctification (set apart and made holy) process.

fish153

Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 17:03:00
Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:39:25
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB



Of course you agree...you are among those who though knowing the scripture haven't connected the dots as of yet, but you love Jesus so you'll come around...one day. I am sure of it!  ::noworries::

Since you agree with a response that has been successfully rebutted  
Let's see if we can try this again

I think we all agree ....

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God in other words The Spirit of God and God are one in the same

The Holy Spirit is also the "another" Jesus referred to

Another means one like Jesus, so Jesus said I will pray the Father He send another like me, another Counselor, another Comforter, another Advocate, another Helper, another Teacher, another Leader, another Guide and another Truth.

See?

Everything that Jesus is, The Holy Spirit is another just like Him


Yet the Holy Spirit is God, His Spirit...the Spirit of God

Furthermore

Jesus is the Truth and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

How we doing so far?   ::smile::

Add to that the Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Christ well by golly what we have here is nothing short of a 3 in One God

For if the Spirit of God is also the Spirit of Christ then they are indeed One in the Same!

Keep in mind Christ is not Jesus last name but rather a title,

It means The Anointed One

So Jesus was The Christ and not coincidentally The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God..... God's Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ!

That's a lot to take in at one time so lets just leave it right there for now....shall we?  ::shrug::

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

Last I read we are a temple of God and God's Spirit dwells in us...right?

1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

Let him who has ears hear.....What the Spirit is saying



I say they Two are One. They are Two, not three.

There is one body and one Spirit, just as when you were called you were called to one hope. And there is one Lord, one trust, one immersion, and one God, the Father of all, who rules over all, works through all and is in all

The Father is the Spirit and the Son is His body, His Word in the flesh.

Everyone who goes ahead and does not remain true to what the Messiah has taught does not have God. Those who remain true to his teaching have both the Father and the Son.

If someone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, don't welcome him into your home. Don't even say, "Shalom!" to him; for the person who says, "Shalom!" to him shares in his evil deeds.
 -2John 1:8-10 CJB


But you have received the Messiah's anointing from HaKadosh, and you know all this.
It is not because you don't know the truth that I have written to you, but because you do know it, and because no lie has its origin in the truth.

Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he is denying the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father, but the person who acknowledges the Son has the Father as well.

Let what you heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you will also remain in union with both the Son and the Father. And this is what he has promised us: eternal life.
 -1John2:20-25 CJB

Well, I just posted this on another thread---please note the (3) distinct persons being mentioned:

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  AND A VOICE FROM HEAVEN SAID, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

gospel

#22
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 17:03:00
Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:39:25
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB



Of course you agree...you are among those who though knowing the scripture haven't connected the dots as of yet, but you love Jesus so you'll come around...one day. I am sure of it!  ::noworries::

Since you agree with a response that has been successfully rebutted  
Let's see if we can try this again

I think we all agree ....

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God in other words The Spirit of God and God are one in the same

The Holy Spirit is also the "another" Jesus referred to

Another means one like Jesus, so Jesus said I will pray the Father He send another like me, another Counselor, another Comforter, another Advocate, another Helper, another Teacher, another Leader, another Guide and another Truth.

See?

Everything that Jesus is, The Holy Spirit is another just like Him


Yet the Holy Spirit is God, His Spirit...the Spirit of God

Furthermore

Jesus is the Truth and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

How we doing so far?   ::smile::

Add to that the Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Christ well by golly what we have here is nothing short of a 3 in One God

For if the Spirit of God is also the Spirit of Christ then they are indeed One in the Same!

Keep in mind Christ is not Jesus last name but rather a title,

It means The Anointed One

So Jesus was The Christ and not coincidentally The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God..... God's Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ!

That's a lot to take in at one time so lets just leave it right there for now....shall we?  ::shrug::

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

Last I read we are a temple of God and God's Spirit dwells in us...right?

1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

Let him who has ears hear.....What the Spirit is saying



I say they Two are One. They are Two, not three.

There is one body and one Spirit, just as when you were called you were called to one hope. And there is one Lord, one trust, one immersion, and one God, the Father of all, who rules over all, works through all and is in all

The Father is the Spirit and the Son is His body, His Word in the flesh.

Everyone who goes ahead and does not remain true to what the Messiah has taught does not have God. Those who remain true to his teaching have both the Father and the Son.

If someone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, don't welcome him into your home. Don't even say, "Shalom!" to him; for the person who says, "Shalom!" to him shares in his evil deeds.
 -2John 1:8-10 CJB


But you have received the Messiah's anointing from HaKadosh, and you know all this.
It is not because you don't know the truth that I have written to you, but because you do know it, and because no lie has its origin in the truth.

Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he is denying the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father, but the person who acknowledges the Son has the Father as well.

Let what you heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you will also remain in union with both the Son and the Father. And this is what he has promised us: eternal life.
 -1John2:20-25 CJB

You can say whatever you like...but I must remind you two can not walk together unless they be agreed so in other words you can say what you like but in the end you need to agree with the Word to walk in the Word.

And it would be very difficult to walk in agreement with Jesus not accepting what He has said about Himself


Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

John 14:9

John 8:19
Then they asked him, "Where is your father?" "You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also."

John 12:45 When he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me.

These are the kinds of statements that got Jesus crucified but not to worry....He knew the consequences and counted on them doing just what they did

But you my friend....
..... you're making this far more complicated than it needs to be but then again logic and reasoning has a way of doing that...

Nevertheless you know far too many scriptures to be reasoned with through the scriptures or by reason alone...hence the difficulty you are having in seeing only what God can reveal

You know too much!

The Pharisees did as well but there is still hope because that's why the Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ made us privy to the conversion of Saul.

Because as much as you know, Saul knew far more than you will ever know, the idiomatic expressions of Hebrew, the idiosyncrasies of the Jewish people and their customs, The Greek the Aramaic, being blameless regarding the Law He was also chosen by God to preach the Gospel because of His excellent understanding of Moses and the Prophets yet......

Until it pleased God to reveal Jesus to him, Saul of Tarsus was to put it bluntly ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT of whom Jesus was hence the reason his sole purpose and mission in life was to destroy those who worshiped a man as God

Enter Jesus!

In the midst of another blood thirsty mission to kill and imprison more "heretics" that is, those of The Way.... Paul could only say ....My Lord who are you?

So even though you know too much the good news is that you don't know more than Saul of Tarsus and you too will one day come to see the Light so to speak, the same blinding Light that knocked Paul to the ground, the same voice whom when He said I AM HE, knocked the Roman soldiers to the ground

JESUS, Emmanuel...God With Us!

gospel

Quote from: fish153 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 17:50:49
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 17:03:00
Quote from: gospel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:39:25
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB



Of course you agree...you are among those who though knowing the scripture haven't connected the dots as of yet, but you love Jesus so you'll come around...one day. I am sure of it!  ::noworries::

Since you agree with a response that has been successfully rebutted  
Let's see if we can try this again

I think we all agree ....

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God in other words The Spirit of God and God are one in the same

The Holy Spirit is also the "another" Jesus referred to

Another means one like Jesus, so Jesus said I will pray the Father He send another like me, another Counselor, another Comforter, another Advocate, another Helper, another Teacher, another Leader, another Guide and another Truth.

See?

Everything that Jesus is, The Holy Spirit is another just like Him


Yet the Holy Spirit is God, His Spirit...the Spirit of God

Furthermore

Jesus is the Truth and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:13

How we doing so far?   ::smile::

Add to that the Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Christ well by golly what we have here is nothing short of a 3 in One God

For if the Spirit of God is also the Spirit of Christ then they are indeed One in the Same!

Keep in mind Christ is not Jesus last name but rather a title,

It means The Anointed One

So Jesus was The Christ and not coincidentally The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God..... God's Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ!

That's a lot to take in at one time so lets just leave it right there for now....shall we?  ::shrug::

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

Last I read we are a temple of God and God's Spirit dwells in us...right?

1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

Let him who has ears hear.....What the Spirit is saying



I say they Two are One. They are Two, not three.

There is one body and one Spirit, just as when you were called you were called to one hope. And there is one Lord, one trust, one immersion, and one God, the Father of all, who rules over all, works through all and is in all

The Father is the Spirit and the Son is His body, His Word in the flesh.

Everyone who goes ahead and does not remain true to what the Messiah has taught does not have God. Those who remain true to his teaching have both the Father and the Son.

If someone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, don't welcome him into your home. Don't even say, "Shalom!" to him; for the person who says, "Shalom!" to him shares in his evil deeds.
 -2John 1:8-10 CJB


But you have received the Messiah's anointing from HaKadosh, and you know all this.
It is not because you don't know the truth that I have written to you, but because you do know it, and because no lie has its origin in the truth.

Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he is denying the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father, but the person who acknowledges the Son has the Father as well.

Let what you heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you will also remain in union with both the Son and the Father. And this is what he has promised us: eternal life.
 -1John2:20-25 CJB

Well, I just posted this on another thread---please note the (3) distinct persons being mentioned:

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  AND A VOICE FROM HEAVEN SAID, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

Insight

Quote from: gospel on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 18:11:23
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16


Another like whom?

The answer? Himself

Another like Himself

Does this not mean that Jesus is the Comforter, the Counselor, the Advocate and the Helper speaking as a man, wrapped in human flesh is saying another like Him will come but this time in spirit and not in human flesh

Hmmm...doesn't that mean the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one in the same?


You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9

Once again we see the 3 in 1 God in the scriptures

Your thoughts?


1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1

This theme is a beautiful study to follow through from the Old Testament to the New.

"An Advocate with the Father"

To understand this theme I suggest you spend some time looking into the word "parakletos

Insight

#25
16And I (Jesus) will pray the Father (Yahweh), and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.  19Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.   21He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.   27Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.  29And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.


Can you see the attributes of the comforter?

Shane

ps. I couldn't help but highlight the blue text  ::idea::

John Zain

#26
Quote from: skmorrison6 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 23:52:38
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.  
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.


Can you see the attributes of the comforter?   ps. I couldn't help but highlight the blue text

Perhaps you've never had this explained to you:
Father God in heaven certainly was greater than Jesus ...
when He was stuck on earth in this body of flesh and blood of ours.

But, I'm wondering if Jesus doesn't always consider the Father to be somewhat greater.
Because I believe that the heirarchy goes something like this:
Father = CEO ......... Son = Administrator .......... Holy Spirit = Workhorse

Cannot the above still be true when all 3 Persons:
(1) are Royal Members of the Triune Godhead?
(2) are the express image of each other?
(3) are equal to each other ... as in (1) and (2)?
Just sayin', mind you, just sayin' ... Hope it's okay to be sayin' (as long as I'm sane also).

gospel

#27
Quote from: John Zain on Fri Jul 08, 2011 - 10:23:37
Quote from: skmorrison6 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 23:52:38
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.  
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.


Can you see the attributes of the comforter?   ps. I couldn't help but highlight the blue text

Perhaps you've never had this explained to you:
Father God in heaven certainly was greater than Jesus ...
when He was stuck on earth in this body of flesh and blood of ours.

But, I'm wondering if Jesus doesn't always consider the Father to be somewhat greater.
Because I believe that the heirarchy goes something like this:
Father = CEO ......... Son = Administrator .......... Holy Spirit = Workhorse

Cannot the above still be true when all 3 Persons:
(1) are Royal Members of the Triune Godhead?
(2) are the express image of each other?
(3) are equal to each other ... as in (1) and (2)?
Just sayin', mind you, just sayin' ... Hope it's okay to be sayin' (as long as I'm sane also).


John Zain you're a lot nicer than me...God bless you

Shane to you I say

Stop playing with words,

Playing with words cannot help you

The Holy Spirit is God, He is the Spirit of God

He is also Another as Jesus referred to

He is also the Spirit of Christ

Since He is another like Jesus,

Jesus is also another like Him

One is God in Flesh

One is God in Spirit

All are God

My advice to you

Get Saved

You must be Born Again!

God Saves, He is Our Savior

His Name is Jesus

gospel

Quote from: gospel on Fri Jul 08, 2011 - 13:15:22
Quote from: John Zain on Fri Jul 08, 2011 - 10:23:37
Quote from: skmorrison6 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 23:52:38
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.  
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.


Can you see the attributes of the comforter?   ps. I couldn't help but highlight the blue text

Perhaps you've never had this explained to you:
Father God in heaven certainly was greater than Jesus ...
when He was stuck on earth in this body of flesh and blood of ours.

But, I'm wondering if Jesus doesn't always consider the Father to be somewhat greater.
Because I believe that the heirarchy goes something like this:
Father = CEO ......... Son = Administrator .......... Holy Spirit = Workhorse

Cannot the above still be true when all 3 Persons:
(1) are Royal Members of the Triune Godhead?
(2) are the express image of each other?
(3) are equal to each other ... as in (1) and (2)?
Just sayin', mind you, just sayin' ... Hope it's okay to be sayin' (as long as I'm sane also).


John Zain you're a lot nicer than me...God bless you

Shane to you I say

Stop playing with words,

Playing with words cannot help you

The Holy Spirit is God, He is the Spirit of God

He is also Another as Jesus referred to

He is also the Spirit of Christ

Since He is another like Jesus,

Jesus is also another like Him

One is God in Flesh

One is God in Spirit

All are God

My advice to you

Get Saved

You must be Born Again!

God Saves, He is Our Savior

His Name is Jesus

Let's give this another shot

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God is God

The Holy Spirit is also ANOTHER like Jesus

This means Jesus is another like God and God is ANOTHER like Jesus

So much so that...

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God is also called The Spirit of Christ

seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.
1 Peter 1:11

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.Romans 8:9

for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
Philippians 1:19



Please explain why God's Spirit and Christ's Spirit are one in the same   ::pondering::

Insight

#29
There is one body (of believers), and one Spirit (Mind), even as ye are called in one hope (intellectually reasoned) of your calling; 5 One Lord (Jesus), one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all (Jesus included), who is above all (Jesus included), and through all (Jesus included), and in you all (Jesus included). Eph 4:4-6

One Spirit works through all Gods true children (including Jesus) doing His pleasure.

Therefore, God is above all...above Christ, above Angels and well above Mankind!

He is the Father of all and such Jesus can say "my Father is greater than I"

Shane

Lively Stone

Quote from: Kindle on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 10:40:59
John 14:18

"I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

Isaiah 51:12

"I, I am he who comforts you; who are you that you are afraid of man who dies, of the son of man who is made like grass,  that you forget the LORD your maker."

The question is: Is it the same voice speaking?  ::smile::

AMEN!

Isaiah 52:9
Let the ruins of Jerusalem break into joyful song,
     for the Lord has comforted his people.
     He has redeemed Jerusalem.

2 Thessalonians 2:16
Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal comfort and a wonderful hope,

2 Corinthians 1:3
[ God Offers Comfort to All ] All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort.

God, the God of all comfort, manifest in the Holy Spirit, who is sent to minister to the world, and to pour forth in and through His children!

daq

#31
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB

Amen BTR
Also of note concerning John 14:18 which both Jarrod and Kindle now have quoted, (which others still seem to prefer ignoring).

John 14:13-18
13.  And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15.  If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you different (GSN#243 allos) Parakleton, that he may abide with you for ever;
17.  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18.  I will not leave you comfortless: (GSN#3737 orphanos) I will come to you.


Strong's Ref. #243
Romanized  allos
Pronounced al'-los
a primary word; "else," i.e. different (in many applications):
KJV--more, one (another), (an-, some an-)other(-s, -wise).

Strong's Ref. #3737
Romanized  orphanos
Pronounced or-fan-os'
of uncertain affinity; bereaved ("orphan"), i.e. parentless:
KJV--comfortless, fatherless.

1) If we have not the Holy Spirit of Christ; who is in the Father; who is Himself Holy Spirit; then we are like ORPHANS. This is exactly where the word translated as "comfortless" in Jn.14:18 comes from (orphanos). Yeshua stated that he would not leave the disciples as orphans, (and not that he is the Father but IN THE FATHER AS ONE).

2) What does Yeshua mean by a "different" Parakletos-Advocate? The text tells us why, what for, and in what way: THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH US FOREVER. Thus, the "allos-different Parakletos" is Yeshua himself; in the Father; in SPIRIT, rather than Yeshua after the flesh which we now henceforth know him no more, (after the flesh) according to the Scripture:

2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJV
14.  For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17.  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


::smile::

BornToReign

#32
Quote from: daq on Mon Jul 18, 2011 - 09:18:18
Quote from: BornToReign on Thu Jul 07, 2011 - 16:12:59
Quote from: daq on Wed Jul 06, 2011 - 20:50:40
And there is more!  ::smile::

Matthew 3:16-17
16.  Being immersed, the Yeshua went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of the Theou descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17.  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Also there is this:

1 John 2:22-26
22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yeshua is the Christos? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26.  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

2 John 1:7-11
7.  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua Christon has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8.  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9.  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christou, hath not Theon. He that abideth in the doctrine; he hath both the Father and the Son.
10.  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him goodwill:
11.  For he that biddeth him goodwill is partaker of his evil deeds.

2 Corinthian 5:14-16
14.  For the love of Christou constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christon after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE.


Still I do not find "3 IN 1" but rather: "THEY TWO ARE ONE"

::pondering::

I agree with everything posted here. Very good.


but when the appointed time arrived, God sent forth His Son. He was born from a woman, born into a culture in which legalistic perversion of the Torah was the norm, so that He might redeem those in subjection to this legalism and thus enable us to be made God's sons.

Now because you are sons, God has sent forth into our hearts the Spirit of His Son, the Spirit who cries out, "Abba!" (that is, "Dear Father!"). So through God you are no longer a slave but a son, and if you are a son you are also an heir.


-Gal. 4:4-6 CJB

Amen BTR
Also of note concerning John 14:18 which both Jarrod and Kindle now have quoted, (which others still seem to prefer ignoring).

John 14:13-18
13.  And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15.  If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you different (GSN#243 allos) Parakleton, that he may abide with you for ever;
17.  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18.  I will not leave you comfortless: (GSN#3737 orphanos) I will come to you.


Strong's Ref. #243
Romanized  allos
Pronounced al'-los
a primary word; "else," i.e. different (in many applications):
KJV--more, one (another), (an-, some an-)other(-s, -wise).

Strong's Ref. #3737
Romanized  orphanos
Pronounced or-fan-os'
of uncertain affinity; bereaved ("orphan"), i.e. parentless:
KJV--comfortless, fatherless.

1) If we have not the Holy Spirit of Christ; who is in the Father; who is Himself Holy Spirit; then we are like ORPHANS. This is exactly where the word translated as "comfortless" in Jn.14:18 comes from (orphanos). Yeshua stated that he would not leave the disciples as orphans, (and not that he is the Father but IN THE FATHER AS ONE).

2) What does Yeshua mean by a "different" Parakletos-Advocate? The text tells us why, what for, and in what way: THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH US FOREVER. Thus, the "allos-different Parakletos" is Yeshua himself; in the Father; in SPIRIT, rather than Yeshua after the flesh which we now henceforth know him no more, (after the flesh) according to the Scripture:

2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJV
14.  For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15.  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16.  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17.  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


::smile::

::amen::

Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.
 -John14:19ESV


My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate(3875) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.  -1John2:1ESV

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper(3875) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. John16:7ESV

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper(3875), to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.  -John 14:16-17

No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life. Just as I was with Moses, so will be with you. I will not leave you or forsake you. -Joshua 1:5

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." -Heb.13:5ESV

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John14:6ESV


For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. -Rom.8:29

No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. -1John 2:22-23 ESV

and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. -Rev.1:5-6ESV


the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us-that which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete. -1John 1:2-4 ESV


Yeshua bless you and amen my brother..... ::smile::

gospel

Quote from: skmorrison6 on Mon Jul 18, 2011 - 02:54:54
There is one body (of believers), and one Spirit (Mind), even as ye are called in one hope (intellectually reasoned) of your calling; 5 One Lord (Jesus), one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all (Jesus included), who is above all (Jesus included), and through all (Jesus included), and in you all (Jesus included). Eph 4:4-6

One Spirit works through all Gods true children (including Jesus) doing His pleasure.

Therefore, God is above all...above Christ, above Angels and well above Mankind!

He is the Father of all and such Jesus can say "my Father is greater than I"

Shane


Ok clearly you realize that your statement above is pure gooblety gook of your own making and nothing to do with scripture....so why don't I give you another opportunity to not avoid the question  ::shrug::

Why is the Holy Spirit called the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ?

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God is God

The Holy Spirit is also ANOTHER like Jesus

This means Jesus is another like God and God is ANOTHER like Jesus

So much so that...

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God is also called The Spirit of Christ


Please explain why God's Spirit and Christ's Spirit are one in the same...okay?  


seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.1 Peter 1:11

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Romans 8:9

for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,Philippians 1:19


gospel

Is this whats known as a bump? ::shrug::


Anyway, I'm trying to help make sure these Truths are not easily avoided

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