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A Testament Against The World... The Lord's Rebuke

Started by skillet, Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:25:42

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Lively Stone

#35
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:40:59
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:36:49
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:35:53
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

No, from her personal life experience. Isn't that how God proves to us he is real? Or is it only in the bible for you too?

When people reject the word, any anecdote we can offer is like casting pearls. The things I have learned by interaction with beautiful Jesus are far too precious to throw around on an internet forum to be trampled on.

Suffice it to say that God's word is true--every word, and God's promises are as good as gold to those who are bold enough to stand on them.



You quote the scriptures and all well and fine but I don't see you actually doing anything else.

It might feel like that, BS, but it isn't really the truth.

Christians are formidable enemies of falsehoods, and to the devil---or at least they should be. When someone speaks in error about God and the word, we need to pounce on it right quick. It may not be appreciated right now, but later, with hope, the truth will be realized.

Quoting Scripture is the best and first thing we need to do in a medium such as this. Scripture is our spiritual food and our authority in knowing and expressing truth.

John 8:31-32
Jesus said to the people who believed in him, "You are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

FireSword

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

Everyone can ask in prayer concerning Gods anger. Most agree we live in the last days, surely God will send his prophets to warn before His judgments fall.

Not saying that Timothy is Gods prophet, in fact God showed me something concerning these letters in scripture. But there is a lot of elements of God in these letters.


JMT

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:00:41
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

Everyone can ask in prayer concerning Gods anger. Most agree we live in the last days, surely God will send his prophets to warn before His judgments fall.

Not saying that Timothy is Gods prophet, in fact God showed me something concerning these letters in scripture. But there is a lot of elements of God in these letters.

But, isn't that the best kind of counterfiet? It shoud be 100% full of God's elements not simply "a lot".  ::smile::


Bitter Sweet

#38
Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:10:46
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:08:17
Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:37:58
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:35:53
No, from her personal life experience. Isn't that how God proves to us he is real? Or is it only in the bible for you too?

My life experiences?  What He has done in my life proves to YOU that He is real?  ::headscratch::



The bible is about peoples life experiences why would yours be any different?

No...the bible is about God and His grace!  It is about His great love for us and that even though we were lost and separated from Him, He had a plan for us to be saved and reconciled to Him.  ::smile::
You claim to know God, wouldn't that make you one of his chosen ones? Then you would know more than me from your life experience. How did he get you back in line with him so that you were not separated?  I am eager to know how God has worked that miracle in your life!



FireSword

Quote from: fish153 on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:07:35
Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 08:59:59
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.

Which is what I greatly suspect is being attempted by posting all of these... ::frown::

We are safely tucked under the shadow of His wings...He loves us...if He is unhappy with us, the Holy Spirit in us will convict us in order to redirect us and bring us to repentance.  ::smile::

JMT--

Amen.  The problem with Timothy's prophecies is that we live in the DAY OF GRACE and the Lord is still graciously calling all who will come to Him.  There is a very interesting thing in the Bible that truly shows the inspiration of the Word of God.  Though the chapters and verses are added by man, I can't help but think the Spirit did lead in how they were divided.  Here is an interesting fact:

The book of Isaiah has 66 chapters.  39 of those chapters speak of wrath and Judgment.  27 of them speak mostly of forgiveness, grace and mercy.  In fact, chapter 40 opens with "Comfort ye, comfort ye my people saith your God". (Isaiah 40:1)

The Bible itself has 66 books.  39 of them are in the Old testament, and 27 are in the New.  The 39th book ends with the word "curse" (Malachi) but the New Testament begins with Grace.

The reason I mention this is because the New Testament message is a message of Grace and forgiveness.  There is judgment reserved for the earth in the future---that is true--but the message that should be preached now in this age of Grace is one of a forgiving God who calls for us to come to Him for salvation.

Yet Timothy says this:

>>>Hear now, the indignation of The Lord God of Israel;
Hear Me, you disgusting multitude...<<<

Does this sound like the voice of God through the Gospel?  Did Jesus divide the 5 loaves and two fishes and say "Eat this you disgusting multitude"?

Far from it.  That is not the voice of God and we do well to reject it.




We are near the last days it would not be great if God send his judgments without sending his prophets first. Do we as Christians want to be found battling against Gods end time prophets just because we are afraid of their message?

Whether Timothy be a prophet or not, I am not certain yet. But I believe that God will send prophets in similar tone to these letters who urge this wicked world to repent of their sins.

Also the bible has 66 books. Compare Jeremiah book to the book of psalms. How different, yet both authored by the same God. What could happen , imagine for a moment is that Gods children being naive and lacking insight could find themselves, just as a little child in the middle of a war, who think they do good, but do nothing but hinder the work of God, and might end up as cannon fodder in the middle of Gods judgment, because they failed to inquire about Gods war like ways, and only met Jesus the lamb, never met Jesus the roaring lion.

The recent film narnia, shows a fearsome lion, if we provoke the lion, it might have to attack us, for the sake of others safety. The lion only wanted to good and destroy and tear down evil structures, but Gods people grieve him more because now he has to kill his own, because they were not in His timing and did not trust this fearsome lion.




Lively Stone

Christians don't fear any message from God or one of His true prophets. We do, however  withhold our trust in those who are self-professed internet prophets who have no visible fruit.

We must see fruit.

Endless postings of what looks like the prophetic is self-aggrandizement, and bypasses the Christian's duty to test the spirits and inspect for fruit. therefore it is useless babble. We are wise to disregard it.

FireSword

Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:04:33
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:00:41
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

Everyone can ask in prayer concerning Gods anger. Most agree we live in the last days, surely God will send his prophets to warn before His judgments fall.

Not saying that Timothy is Gods prophet, in fact God showed me something concerning these letters in scripture. But there is a lot of elements of God in these letters.

But, isn't that the best kind of counterfiet? It shoud be 100% full of God's elements not simply "a lot".  ::smile::



That's a good point and thanks for bringing it to attention. My normal view is that the idea of a 100% prophet is asking/demanding men to be perfect. So a person could wait a thousand years and reject every single prophet in history, due to errors here and there.

But the thing about these letters is that Timothy claims, they are as the word of God. I believe the word of God to be perfect in it's original Hebrew format, but these letter claim to match the perfection of the scriptures.

After going through Timothy letters I have found some seeming contradictions, + the scripture that God showed me.

But maybe the contradictions can be explained, and maybe I have not thought deep enough on the issue.





Bitter Sweet

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:22:28
Christians don't fear any message from God or one of His true prophets. We do, however  withhold our trust in those who are self-professed internet prophets who have no visible fruit.

We must see fruit.

Endless postings of what looks like the prophetic is self-aggrandizement, and bypasses the Christian's duty to test the spirits and inspect for fruit. therefore it is useless babble. We are wise to disregard it.

Exactly show us your fruit.

Bitter Sweet


Lively Stone

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:27:36
Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:04:33
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:00:41
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

Everyone can ask in prayer concerning Gods anger. Most agree we live in the last days, surely God will send his prophets to warn before His judgments fall.

Not saying that Timothy is Gods prophet, in fact God showed me something concerning these letters in scripture. But there is a lot of elements of God in these letters.

But, isn't that the best kind of counterfiet? It shoud be 100% full of God's elements not simply "a lot".  ::smile::



That's a good point and thanks for bringing it to attention. My normal view is that the idea of a 100% prophet is asking/demanding men to be perfect. So a person could wait a thousand years and reject every single prophet in history, due to errors here and there.

But the thing about these letters is that Timothy claims, they are as the word of God. I believe the word of God to be perfect in it's original Hebrew format, but these letter claim to match the perfection of the scriptures.

After going through Timothy letters I have found some seeming contradictions, + the scripture that God showed me.

But maybe the contradictions can be explained, and maybe I have not thought deep enough on the issue.


Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it.

FireSword

Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children


Lively Stone

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:00:41
Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children



God does send us prophets. they are known by their fruit. they also are not self-proclaimed, going about declaring their secret knowledge. They do so with integrity and never flamboyance.

Everything they declare from God is supported by the word of God, as it is complete to us.

FireSword

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:07:20
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:00:41
Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children



God does send us prophets. they are known by their fruit. they also are not self-proclaimed, going about declaring their secret knowledge. They do so with integrity and never flamboyance.

Everything they declare from God is supported by the word of God, as it is complete to us.

The fruits of the prophet are not so easy to find. Look at Moses, half the time he's arguing with the people, angry at them.

Prophets are not walk overs they are might men of God, to get people, even nations to repent.

They must be able to stare hardened, murdering, sorcerers like Pharoa in the face and tell them "God of Israel says let my people Go"

The people today are stubborn hearted, arrogant, full of lies and deceit. Only the might and fear of God will burn up their wicked ways.

This Timothy guy cannot demonstrate more humilty. What else do you demand?

IS your version of a prophet someone who lives in a cave, with no food and shoes? ::lookaround::


---------------

But nevertheless I do see some issues with this prophet, but I just don't see why you critique one of the best quality that He has. -Free letters, free videos, placing his honest questions to God[?] and sometimes God[?] replies harshly.

Perhaps you have a certain expectation of a prophet that you have in your mind and reject any that do not fit that mold?



Lively Stone

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 16:35:58
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:07:20
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:00:41
Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children



God does send us prophets. they are known by their fruit. they also are not self-proclaimed, going about declaring their secret knowledge. They do so with integrity and never flamboyance.

Everything they declare from God is supported by the word of God, as it is complete to us.

The fruits of the prophet are not so easy to find. Look at Moses, half the time he's arguing with the people, angry at them.

Prophets are not walk overs they are might men of God, to get people, even nations to repent.

They must be able to stare hardened, murdering, sorcerers like Pharoa in the face and tell them "God of Israel says let my people Go"

The people today are stubborn hearted, arrogant, full of lies and deceit. Only the might and fear of God will burn up their wicked ways.

This Timothy guy cannot demonstrate more humilty. What else do you demand?

IS your version of a prophet someone who lives in a cave, with no food and shoes? ::lookaround::


---------------

But nevertheless I do see some issues with this prophet, but I just don't see why you critique one of the best quality that He has. -Free letters, free videos, placing his honest questions to God[?] and sometimes God[?] replies harshly.

Perhaps you have a certain expectation of a prophet that you have in your mind and reject any that do not fit that mold?




We are not to just accept every Tom, Dick or Harriet that presents oneself as a prophet of God.

The most important characteristic of a prophet's ministry is that he or she will always lead people to God instead of away from God. Add to that---the prophet will never contradict what God has spoken in His written word.

A very critical characteristic of a prophet is the evidence of the fruit of the Spirit.  If a prophet that you know does not operate in the fruit of the Spirit, they are a false prophet regardless if they have true prophetic gifts or not. A person cannot be a true prophet of the Lord if they are not led by the Lord.

Jesus said, "You will know them by their fruit." Therefore, it's important to know your prophets. If you don't know a person, I would be very careful about receiving a prophetic word from them.


FireSword

We are not to just accept every Tom, Dick or Harriet that presents oneself as a prophet of God.

firesword
Yes, scripture says there are many false prophets and possibly the scripture warns about this particular prophet.

livelystones
The most important characteristic of a prophet's ministry is that he or she will always lead people to God instead of away from God. Add to that---the prophet will never contradict what God has spoken in His written word.

firesword
Timothy has written hundreds of letters. Not all are judgments.
He is also does not claim to be the mighty prophet, but only of one prophet from 144,000 prophet trumpets. So if each trumpet blasts a large portion of the world would hear God's message.

livelystones
A very critical characteristic of a prophet is the evidence of the fruit of the Spirit.  If a prophet that you know does not operate in the fruit of the Spirit, they are a false prophet regardless if they have true prophetic gifts or not. A person cannot be a true prophet of the Lord if they are not led by the Lord.

Jesus said, "You will know them by their fruit." Therefore, it's important to know your prophets. If you don't know a person, I would be very careful about receiving a prophetic word from them.

firesword
You don't know Timothy or other Internet prophets, so why call him a false prophet. God is not pleased if we call his prophets false prophets, based on either knowing them or not. If you think he's a false prophet based on contradictions then please show me. But the problem is that a false prophet is deceitful, so if you tell me the contradiction, he will then go and edit the letters.
We must know the true prophet from the false.


Lively Stone

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 17:20:21

Timothy has written hundreds of letters. Not all are judgments.
He is also does not claim to be the mighty prophet, but only of one prophet from 144,000 prophet trumpets. So if each trumpet blasts a large portion of the world would hear God's message.

Well, there ya go....self-aggrandizing and asserting position. Not a good sign.


QuoteYou don't know Timothy or other Internet prophets, so why call him a false prophet.

EXACTLY! 


Joyfullee

This guy claims God is giving him a new addition to the Bible.  Ya know, a newer New Testament.

I've already posted the links on one of his threads.

In order to deceive a Christian, there must be lots of "truth" in the message.  Then intersperse it with lies and deceptions.

I'd be very careful in putting any stock in these writings cause one is liable to fall in and get caught ...hook, line, and sinker.

My best advice would be to....RUN!

Blessings




JMT

Quote from: Joyfullee on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 17:49:28
This guy claims God is giving him a new addition to the Bible.  Ya know, a newer New Testament.

I've already posted the links on one of his threads.

In order to deceive a Christian, there must be lots of "truth" in the message.  Then intersperse it with lies and deceptions.

I'd be very careful in putting any stock in these writings cause one is liable to fall in and get caught ...hook, line, and sinker.

My best advice would be to....RUN!

Blessings

::amen!::

Just doesn't smell like fresh/healthy fruit does it?  God's word is complete and does not need to have the New Testament made "newer"like you said, Joyfullee!  ::cool::

Lively Stone

Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 19:09:25
Quote from: Joyfullee on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 17:49:28
This guy claims God is giving him a new addition to the Bible.  Ya know, a newer New Testament.

I've already posted the links on one of his threads.

In order to deceive a Christian, there must be lots of "truth" in the message.  Then intersperse it with lies and deceptions.

I'd be very careful in putting any stock in these writings cause one is liable to fall in and get caught ...hook, line, and sinker.

My best advice would be to....RUN!

Blessings

::amen!::

Just doesn't smell like fresh/healthy fruit does it?  God's word is complete and does not need to have the New Testament made "newer"like you said, Joyfullee!  ::cool::

to both of you.

JohnDB

This thread has been somewhat cleaned.

If you can't find a past post...guess what?

It has been thrown into the dumpster for either quoting a malicious post or being a malicious post.


JMT

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:27:36
Quote from: JMT on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:04:33
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 14:00:41
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 13:22:23
Quote from: FireSword on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 22:21:17
Quote from: Lively Stone on Wed Jul 27, 2011 - 21:40:56
So much vitriol coming from my Lord and Saviour....why must you post such scathing things?


He sees the righteous and He is pleased with them. We have hope in Jesus Christ.

The bible is full of such words from book to book.

There is Gods peace but also his anger as the lion.

Its important that Gods people understand Gods anger in context or they might feel despair and hatred towards God and be drawn to another false Christ with false promises.



Yeah, let's understand it from an online website... *sigh*

Everyone can ask in prayer concerning Gods anger. Most agree we live in the last days, surely God will send his prophets to warn before His judgments fall.

Not saying that Timothy is Gods prophet, in fact God showed me something concerning these letters in scripture. But there is a lot of elements of God in these letters.

But, isn't that the best kind of counterfiet? It shoud be 100% full of God's elements not simply "a lot".  ::smile::



That's a good point and thanks for bringing it to attention. My normal view is that the idea of a 100% prophet is asking/demanding men to be perfect. So a person could wait a thousand years and reject every single prophet in history, due to errors here and there.

But the thing about these letters is that Timothy claims, they are as the word of God. I believe the word of God to be perfect in it's original Hebrew format, but these letter claim to match the perfection of the scriptures.

After going through Timothy letters I have found some seeming contradictions, + the scripture that God showed me.

But maybe the contradictions can be explained, and maybe I have not thought deep enough on the issue.


I think 100% accuracy is the measuring stick though.  When was a biblical prophet ever wrong when he spoke for the Lord?  It is my recollection that they (when saying THUS saith the Lord) were an empty vessel that He was actually speaking through, and God doesn't get things wrong. 

In fact, I think I remember  ::headscratch::that if a prophet was found to be in error, he was stoned for it...because the people then knew the Lord was not speaking through him, and he was an imposter and false prophet...

If God's prophets don't have to be 100% accurate...what does that mean for the bible?  Is it mostly correct, but errors here and there, or is it the complete infallible word of God spoken to the hearts of those who recorded what God spoke through them?

Bitter Sweet

Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:00:41
Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children



John 5:39-40 states there is more than just scripture. We are to testify the life, and in these testimonies we reveal God. We don't just come out and quote scripture, those who seek will find him in life. A prophet from God will give real life testimonies that show how God's ways are not mans ways, will reveal mysteries, this will be understood by those that are prepared. In these days, nothing about God is kept secret, that is how we know which season we are in.

2 Peter 1:16-21

Lively Stone

Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:22:50
Quote from: FireSword on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 15:00:41
Why bother? We have the WORD. No one is to add or subtract from it
livelystones

I hear people say that but where is the scripture?

The word is not a book, but it is Jesus christ who is the living word.

So if nobody can add to the word, then it means when the living word speaks to an individual, then this is illegal?


The word we have now is often taken for granted that, this is how the word has been since the beginning. But Abraham and the prophets only had access to a few of the books.

Not even sure when the scribes began to write down the information on tablets.

But as each prophet was revealed to the world they would write down new information, new books.

So in these end times why doesn't God send a prophet?

Malachi prophecied that Elijah the prophet would come on the scene and turn the fathers hearts to the children



John 5:39-40 states there is more than just scripture. We are to testify the life, and in these testimonies we reveal God. We don't just come out and quote scripture, those who seek will find him in life. A prophet from God will give real life testimonies that show how God's ways are not mans ways, will reveal mysteries, this will be understood by those that are prepared. In these days, nothing about God is kept secret, that is how we know which season we are in.

2 Peter 1:16-21

John 5
39 "You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me! 40 Yet you refuse to come to me to receive this life.

Jesus was talking to the Jews who studied the Torah, and told them that the Torah pointed to Him. It is Jesus Christ that gives us life.

Jesus is the Word, the Logos of God. He is found in the written word. that is why it is so important to stand by it, and use it when we speak and in how we live, for the word has power to change lives.

A true prophet will speak using the word in such a way as to bring it to life personally for the hearer---that is called Rhema.

It is all about Jesus.

Bitter Sweet

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:16-17

Lively Stone

Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

John 8
Jesus, the Light of the World

12 Jesus spoke to the people once more and said, "I am the light of the world. If you follow me, you won't have to walk in darkness, because you will have the light that leads to life.

Bitter Sweet

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Quoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Lively Stone

Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:50:00
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Amen, BS! That's what I do---that is what it is all about. Scripture is our authority, however, and what we say and live must be supported by it and reflect it.

QuoteQuoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

Scripture teaches us all things, and encourages us on that narrow road and serves as our measuring stick as to how we are walking that narrow road. Scripture is alive and breathing!

Hebrews 4:12-13
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable.


Bitter Sweet

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:19:40
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:50:00
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Amen, BS! That's what I do---that is what it is all about. Scripture is our authority, however, and what we say and live must be supported by it and reflect it.

QuoteQuoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

I wouldn't say millions but..

Because of the living testimonies, without witnesses to what Jesus has done directly in our life, we have nothing. Without the love of God, nothing is had or shared or revealed.

Lively Stone

Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:54:44
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:19:40
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:50:00
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Amen, BS! That's what I do---that is what it is all about. Scripture is our authority, however, and what we say and live must be supported by it and reflect it.

QuoteQuoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

I wouldn't say millions but..

Because of the living testimonies, without witnesses to what Jesus has done directly in our life, we have nothing. Without the love of God, nothing is had or shared or revealed.

Yes, millions! It is the truth of the word of God that reveals Jesus Christ to a heart and to believe!

Romans 10
17No one can have faith without hearing the message about Christ.


Without the word of God we have no message.

JMT

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:19:40
Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

Scripture teaches us all things, and encourages us on that narrow road and serves as our measuring stick as to how we are walking that narrow road. Scripture is alive and breathing!

Hebrews 4:12-13
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable.

Amen, Lively!  It is God breathed!  It is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, (2 Timothy 3:16) ~EDIT to FIX my number typo! LOL~
It does not return to Him empty! ( Isaiah 55:11)

Psalm 56:10

JMT

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 07:00:46
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:54:44
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:19:40
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:50:00
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Amen, BS! That's what I do---that is what it is all about. Scripture is our authority, however, and what we say and live must be supported by it and reflect it.

QuoteQuoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

I wouldn't say millions but..

Because of the living testimonies, without witnesses to what Jesus has done directly in our life, we have nothing. Without the love of God, nothing is had or shared or revealed.

Yes, millions! It is the truth of the word of God that reveals Jesus Christ to a heart and to believe!

Romans 10
17No one can have faith without hearing the message about Christ.


Without the word of God we have no message.

::amen!::

Bitter Sweet

Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 07:00:46
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:54:44
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 06:19:40
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:50:00
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:40:06
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:37:21
Quote from: Lively Stone on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 05:31:20
It is all about Jesus.

You are to testify the life of Jesus in his name. Tell us what he has revealed to you in life, share the mysteries and reveal the secrets. We are in the end days and you must show people that God is real so that we can help bring them to repentance so that no one is lost. Luke 8:17

There are no mysteries in the light of Christ.

My job in Christ is to reveal Him and His truth by my life and by my words which speak of Jesus Christ and the truth of the written word of God.

There are a lot of things that are unknown to man about Jesus, you are not to hide the light under your bed. You are to shine the light and help bring people to repentance. You do this by testifying what in Jesus name has happened in your life. So that people will see and know that you are with him and you can provide testimonies of the life you live with him and for him. This gives people proof that he has resurrected and Christ has risen. There are more people that don't believe than there are true believers. It is a duty Jesus has bestowed upon us, I will never turn my back on him and leave it just at that, scripture.

Amen, BS! That's what I do---that is what it is all about. Scripture is our authority, however, and what we say and live must be supported by it and reflect it.

QuoteQuoting scripture alone isn't going to make people believe. Your life will be a shining example that God is with you and that he is real.

Scripture alone has brought millions of people to salvation! It is the living, breathing truth of God.

I wouldn't say millions but..

Because of the living testimonies, without witnesses to what Jesus has done directly in our life, we have nothing. Without the love of God, nothing is had or shared or revealed.

Yes, millions! It is the truth of the word of God that reveals Jesus Christ to a heart and to believe!

Romans 10
17No one can have faith without hearing the message about Christ.


Without the word of God we have no message.

Yes faith, without testimonies from people, there is no faith. However you cannot claim the life of someone else words and say they are your own, that is called plagiarism, false witness to the miracles of Jesus and the promises God made. That is how we know the false prophets, they steal words that don't belong to their life.

Can you please quote Jesus saying "millions". I could have sworn he said very few will enter.


Bitter Sweet

Quote from: JMT on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 08:00:52
Romans 10:17


Can you please provide a testimony that a mountain was moved, and how nothing is impossible for you? Please provide the word of God that helped you do this and how it was done without any of your own effort and how it keeps you sustained continually. Just one miracle, that's all I want to hear from you, with Jesus, 1 miracle isn't much to ask for.

Matthew 17:20

JohnDB

Bittersweet,
What you are asking for is very personal in nature.

And considering your attitude & behavior on this forum I am seriously doubting that anyone will share this very personal information with you.

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