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Is our understanding of the Trinity, correct?

Started by Thorwald, Mon Sep 26, 2011 - 12:18:04

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SpiritualSon

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jun 07, 2012 - 20:22:49
Quote from: SpiritualSon on Thu Jun 07, 2012 - 19:38:51
Here is the why I see the trinity of the Christian church. I see a god who has one body with three heads on it.A three headed god. One head is the father, the second head is the son, and third heard the holy spirit. This is the only way your three Divine persons can be one god. Do you really believe the anges are bowing down to a thing like that. How come we have one head, and your god has three. Are we not in the image and likeness of god?


So-o-o....what church are you a member of, if not the Christian Church?

God is three persons in one.

I am member of the New Church. The church was started after the death of Emanuel Swedenborg. I been reading his books since 1966.

Harry

Lively Stone

Swedenborg was not a man of God, but a heretic. You need to stop reading his stuff. Read the Bible, and receive the truth of God.

Alethos

Quote from: SpiritualSon on Tue Jun 12, 2012 - 09:43:33

These three, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are  three essentials of the one God, They make one as soul, body, and operation make one in Jesus Christ. In anyone thing there are both general and particular essentials, and these together make one essence. The general essentials of a person  is their soul, body, and operation. That these constitute one essence,which  can be seen from this-that one is from the other and for the sake of the other in an unbroken series. A person  gets their beginning from the soul, which is the very essence of the semen; and the soul not only initiates, but also produces in their order all things that pertain to the body, and afterward all things that proceed from the soul and body together, which are called operations. From this production, therefore, of one from the other, and the consequent ingrafting and conjunction, it can be seen that these three are of one essence, and therefore they are called three essentials.

Harry ::smile::

You can often identify error due the lack of inspired content within the post.

The above post is a point in mention.

epiphanius

Quote from: SpiritualSon on Thu Jun 07, 2012 - 19:38:51

Here is the way I see the trinity of the Christian church. I see a god who has one body with three heads on it ...


Given that God is pure spirit, and does not have a body, this is an odd analogy indeed.

Quote from: SpiritualSon on Thu Jun 07, 2012 - 19:38:51

This is the only way your three Divine persons can be one god. Do you really believe the anges are bowing down to a thing like that. How come we have one head, and your god has three. Are we not in the image and likeness of god?


You speak as though God were something that man conjured up, rather than an infinite, self-existing Being who exists on a level that is *far* beyond human understanding, but communicates with His creation and reveals Himself to them.

King David was aware of this: God can see without physical "eyes" and hear without physical "ears," as He is the Creator of both!

Quote from: Psalms 94:8-9
Consider, you senseless among the people; you fools, when will you be wise?
He who implanted the ear, won't he hear? He who formed the eye, won't he see?


FireSword

Quote from: Michael A on Fri Jun 08, 2012 - 04:08:20
Quote from: SpiritualSon on Fri May 25, 2012 - 09:55:32
Jesus Christ is the Father. John 14:9 "He that hath seen Me  hath seen the Father."


You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the Power of God.
Please allow me to re-mind you...

2 Corinthians 4:4
whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

He (Christ Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Colossians 1:14-16

Jesus Christ is THE IMAGE of God the Father, not the Father Himself.

Now if you will, please LISTEN to what the Word of God tells us about His Father:

In the Apostles Prayer:
OUR FATHER, who art in heaven, Holy Holy Holy is Your Name, Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.  Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver  us from the evil one, for THINE IS THE KINGDOM, forever and ever.

In Jesus Passionate prayer to our Father:
"..."Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.

epiphanius

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
Thinking God has no side of evil is where we go wrong.

Roy,

OK, you say this, but make no argument to back it up.

In contrast, the Bible proclaims a God who is all-good:

Quote from: Matthew 19:16-17
Behold, one came to him and said, "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"  He said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

... and all-perfect:

Quote from: James 1:16-17
Don't be deceived, my beloved brothers.  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor shadow of turning.
(Note: "shadow of turning" is usually understood to mean the slightest, infinitesimal change.)  God cannot change because He can neither become greater nor less than what He already is.

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
God is more than we can imagine and less than we can imagine

In what way is He less than we can imagine?  That would imply our imagination is greater than God  ::whistle::

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
God is more than one and less than one

In what way is He less than one?

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
God is the more than the illusion I believe in and God is less than any illusion some one might believe in

My God is not an illusion.  Sorry about yours.

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
God is the son of God and God is not the son of God

God [Jesus] is the son of God and God [the Father] is not the son of God ::lookaround::

Quote from: year2027 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 - 17:50:32
why does there have be a right over wrong why can not both be right
because we are just learning stages

Because good cannot be evil and the truth cannot be a lie.

Furthermore, although it is true that we are just learning, God already knows, and His plan is unfolding before our eyes.  He is not figuring out His own plan or learning it.


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