Do you think it is evil for the super rich not to give more money?

[cs80918]

Capitalism and the free market is not God, greed is not good.  Do the Watons who run walmart really need 100 or 200 billion?  Many people think that bill gates or carlos slim run the most profitable companies, but really wal mart does it is just split up among 4 or 6 people.

Anyways, back to my point.  There is an excess that is evil.  

There is a verse in the new testament about working to provide for your own needs and then if you have extra to help other people with it.

I mean seriously can't they be happy living off of 500,000 a year?  I'm happy living off of 50,000 a year.

Do they really need 50 million dollar houses?  How can they spend that excessive amount of money with little children around the world starving?  How many people could be fed and clothed with all that excess money?

Sure the people who sold the home made some money by selling it etc, but there is just a gross excess.

I went to college and took economics and I know about that, but come on there is an excess at some point.  Seriously, is a 100,000 car more important than feeding a 1,000 kids in africa?

Psalm 112:5
It is well with the man who deals generously and lends, who conducts his affairs with justice.

Proverbs 16:8
Better is a little with righteousness than great income with injustice

Malachi 3:5
Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me, says the LORD of hosts.

James 5:1-6
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure! Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and put to death the righteous man; he does not resist you.

[larry2]

$50,000 per year could feed a lot of starving children if you'd live in a tent, walk to work or take the bus instead wasting your money on a $1000 car,  eat near nothing and dumpster dive for your food.

Luke 18:22  Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
 
Oh the greed of it all.

[Supplanter]

Having excessive amounts of money is not a sin. However, loving that money more than God is a sin. They may be giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help people. Who are we to judge what another man should do with his money?

They built a great company that makes them lots of money. Do not deny a wage earner his wages. They shouldn't be denied getting paid for work and as far as I know they pay all of their employees. Big companies that make lots of money pay lots of paychecks which provide lots of people with food, housing, and clothing.

[cs80918]

$50,000 per year could feed a lot of starving children if you'd live in a tent, walk to work or take the bus instead wasting your money on a $1000 car,  eat near nothing and dumpster dive for your food.

Luke 18:22  Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
 
Oh the greed of it all.

I expected this response to come, but not so soon.  This is a typical response that isn't a very good one.  If the wealth was more evenly distrubed, I would not have to give all of my 50,000 to live in a tent and dumpster dive for food.

The fact is everyone could live in a modest dwelling, eat plenty of food and still have money left over.  I'm not talking about supporting people who choose not to work.  I'm talking about helping people get on their feet.  I am talking about feeding the people, who can't help themselves.

There is so much money in this world that no one should be without a modest dwelling, food and clothing.  

Evil countries and evil people are too blame.  Do you know that Africa has enough land that it could produce enough food to provide for all its people and more?  The reason is the corrupt governments keep the people from farming, because of taxation and wars etc.  If those people were taught and give the right farming equipment the world wouldn't have to pay to feed them anymore.  Millions of starving people over there and the governments of the world don't intervene and oust their corrupt governments.

Sure, I could give my 50,000 a year and live in a tent etc, but the reality is no one has to live in a tent and dumpster dive, if the super rich wouldn't horde their wealth.

Seriously, I pray that righteous people begin to get rich and don't become corrputed by their wealth and they use it to help others.

That being said I do know of some wealthy people that give generously and live well below their means, because they are mature in Christ and know that God is their source not money.

[cs80918]

Having excessive amounts of money is not a sin. However, loving that money more than God is a sin. They may be giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help people. Who are we to judge what another man should do with his money?

They built a great company that makes them lots of money. Do not deny a wage earner his wages. They shouldn't be denied getting paid for work and as far as I know they pay all of their employees. Big companies that make lots of money pay lots of paychecks which provide lots of people with food, housing, and clothing.

Thank you for the basic economics lesson.  However; the reality is that many people are starving and live in bad conditions, because of a few super wealthy people hording money.  Look over there in Libya look at all the billions that Gadafi horded for himself, when many people were starving.

The good news there are and has been righteous wealthy people who have given generously, one example is/

Robert G. LeTourneau- a very wealthy man
For most of his successful life, he lived on 10 percent of his income and gave 90 percent
to Christian work. "The question,

[cs80918]

I am republican, so don't thing my post is politically motivated. 

[M Gold]

I am republican, so don't thing my post is politically motivated. 

Capitalism and Democracy apart from adherence to the values of Christ will result in evil like any other monetary or political system.

[chosenone]

yes it would be good if very wealthy people gave more, but that is for them to decide.It is for us to decide what we do with what we have, whether that be a lot or little.

[larry2]

What are you doing to make sure that you are on equal ground with those billions of people earning only $1.25 or $2.50 per day? You are rich in their eyes? The following article might be interesting to you.

WikipediA - 2005, 48,3 % of the world population 3,14 billions of people) has an income of less than 2,5 US$/day. 21,5 % of the world population (1,4 billions of people) has an income of less than 1,25 US$/day.[10] 1981, 60,4 % of the world population (2,73 billions of people) had an income of less than 2,5 US$/day and 42,2 % of the world population (1,91 billions of people) had an income of less than 1,25 US$/day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_inequality

[Kindle]

I agree that we cannot catagorize or judge and entire group. But we can take a look at specifics.  Take a look at the Waltons family fortunes, and then google how their employees are treated.  Beyond that we would have to look further into individual accumulation of wealth... how did they get there?  And then contrast the virtues against the corruptions. It would be a massive undertaking.  But it might provide some discernment on the question at hand.
We can't force giving.. unless we go looking to the political arena.  But, as Cristians, we do have our own teachings on the matter. If we fall short, then there is conviction, if we would heed it.  Works in progress though... and as individuals.
But yes, if we could manage it from within, God has provided us the wherewithall to do great things.

A bit of info I posted on the CPF is that the biggest givers, according to one study, is the working poor conservatives; income ratio considered, it is 30% more compared to the "rich" and other groups.  
(Liberals tend to look for their government/taxes to provide.)

Robert G. LeTourneau-.. pretty cool that.

[Supplanter]

Having excessive amounts of money is not a sin. However, loving that money more than God is a sin. They may be giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help people. Who are we to judge what another man should do with his money?

They built a great company that makes them lots of money. Do not deny a wage earner his wages. They shouldn't be denied getting paid for work and as far as I know they pay all of their employees. Big companies that make lots of money pay lots of paychecks which provide lots of people with food, housing, and clothing.

Thank you for the basic economics lesson.  However; the reality is that many people are starving and live in bad conditions, because of a few super wealthy people hording money.  Look over there in Libya look at all the billions that Gadafi horded for himself, when many people were starving.

The good news there are and has been righteous wealthy people who have given generously, one example is/

Robert G. LeTourneau- a very wealthy man
For most of his successful life, he lived on 10 percent of his income and gave 90 percent
to Christian work. "The question,

[tennman]

Ah yes Cs80918, it's easy to sit back and say what others should be doing better or with what they have. I have two kidneys that work so in some people's eyes that makes me rich. Am I being evil not having one of them cut out of me and given to someone?

The fact I have a computer that connects to the Internet and two cars in the driveway makes me WILDLY and excessively rich compared to most of the world's population. Should I give those things up? We ate at Olive Garden today and it cost us about $30 for two people. Was I sinning?

I notice that you quote passages. I think it's important we not ignore passages too. For example:

Proverbs 10:22 says, "The blessing of the Lord brings wealth, without painful toil for it."

All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty" (Proverbs 14:23).

"Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. He who gathers crops in the summer is a wise son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son" (Proverbs 10:4,5).

"One who is slack in his work is a close relative of one who destroys" (Proverbs 18:9).

"I went past the field of a sluggard, past the vineyard of someone who has no sense; thorns had come up everywhere, the ground was covered with weeds, and the stone wall was in ruins. I applied my heart to what I observed and learned a lesson from what I saw: A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest--and poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man" (Proverbs 24:30-34).

"A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children" (Proverbs 13:22).

You might want to take a look at this article: http://www.gracecentered.com/what_the_Bible_says_about_money.htm but the bottom line is, there's nothing wrong with having wealth. A rich person doesn't owe you or anyone else a dime of what he/she has earned. I can sit back and say that since you have two arms you should have one amputated to give to an armless person. We can play the "you should do this with your stuff" game all day long. It's judgmental and usually hypocritical because as others have pointed out, anyone able to view this forum is "rich" compared to most of the world.

And it's not because a few are "hording wealth." There's a reason it's called currency. Money is spent, invested and even when saved is used by banks to make loans. No body buried their money in a bucket. Wealthy people invest in start-up companies that create jobs. They buy expensive things that employ others. The dollar I have is used and benefits more than just me because I don't get anyone from it unless I do something with it (spend, save or invest).

I'm sure we all can say that someone else is wasting their talent, money, posessions, organs, hair, whatever. We all have a right to our opinion but don't have the right to force someone to do something we think they should do with their stuff.

[osofos]

I dont know if it's evil...but I do know the Bible says it is hard for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.

[JohnDB]

Just about everyone who has a retirement plan owns wal-mart. Their stock is on the exchanges & is traded publicly. You too can buy a piece of Wal-mart if you want or any other company. I would dare say you know of nothing really about life in Africa or why those "people are starving"

[Thankfulldad]

I dont know if it's evil...but I do know the Bible says it is hard for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.

It is impossible with man; but, anything is possible with God.....finish the chapter

[Ladonia]

yes it would be good if very wealthy people gave more, but that is for them to decide.It is for us to decide what we do with what we have, whether that be a lot or little.

Thats right!  Wasn't God pleased immensely when the widow gave money out of the meager amount she had?

[avenger]

Capitalism and the free market is not God, greed is not good.  Do the Watons who run walmart really need 100 or 200 billion?  Many people think that bill gates or carlos slim run the most profitable companies, but really wal mart does it is just split up among 4 or 6 people.

Anyways, back to my point.  There is an excess that is evil. 

There is a verse in the new testament about working to provide for your own needs and then if you have extra to help other people with it.

I mean seriously can't they be happy living off of 500,000 a year?  I'm happy living off of 50,000 a year.

Do they really need 50 million dollar houses?  How can they spend that excessive amount of money with little children around the world starving?  How many people could be fed and clothed with all that excess money?

Sure the people who sold the home made some money by selling it etc, but there is just a gross excess.

I went to college and took economics and I know about that, but come on there is an excess at some point.  Seriously, is a 100,000 car more important than feeding a 1,000 kids in africa?

Psalm 112:5
It is well with the man who deals generously and lends, who conducts his affairs with justice.

Proverbs 16:8
Better is a little with righteousness than great income with injustice

Malachi 3:5
Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me, says the LORD of hosts.

James 5:1-6
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure! Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and put to death the righteous man; he does not resist you.

I think you should worry about whether or not your own tithe, offerings and charity is pleasing to God... and let the rest of us do the same.   

Avenger

[Kindle]

Just about everyone who has a retirement plan owns wal-mart. Their stock is on the exchanges & is traded publicly. You too can buy a piece of Wal-mart if you want or any other company. I would dare say you know of nothing really about life in Africa or why those "people are starving"

Walmart and the Waltons do stand out however, JohnDB; at least in my mind. Again, employee benefits, wage and employment status and working conditions of walmart employees...all pretty telling.
Back in June the family announced a $15 billion buy back plan, through which they will control around 51% of the stock.  They have slowly been increasing their percentage for years. 
Anyway, the Waltons themselves have had tremendous imput on the business model...and thus employment policies.
..the whole Walton family history is pretty interesting in regards to the OP. The addy here is not to knock a particular denom. It is a look at individuals.
http://www.minyanville.com/special-features/articles/sam-walton-walmart-bentonville-arkansas-presbyterian/5/19/2010/id/28274

We can look at the specifics, and then decide for ourselves.

[Debrah]

Christians are not to be as Robbin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. 

This is what Pres. Obama wants to do to "fix" are jobless rate, instead of looking at his own corrupt US government waste of our monies, no...lets just TAKE IT from the rich.

We are not a socialist country, we are not a Christian government, or nation.

If you are a Christian, God will provide your needs, for some that is bread, and a tent.  For others that is a Mansion with a pool and tennis courts.  Who are we to judge the Potter, or who God blesses with much or less.

Those who have much are to give much, that is between them and God, we have NO RIGHT to force them to give, nor to judge.

[Thankfulldad]

Christians are not to be as Robbin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. 

This is what Pres. Obama wants to do to "fix" are jobless rate, instead of looking at his own corrupt US government waste of our monies, no...lets just TAKE IT from the rich.

We are not a socialist country, we are not a Christian government, or nation.

If you are a Christian, God will provide your needs, for some that is bread, and a tent.  For others that is a Mansion with a pool and tennis courts.  Who are we to judge the Potter, or who God blesses with much or less.

Those who have much are to give much, that is between them and God, we have NO RIGHT to force them to give, nor to judge.

manna

[M Gold]

Just about everyone who has a retirement plan owns wal-mart. Their stock is on the exchanges & is traded publicly. You too can buy a piece of Wal-mart if you want or any other company. I would dare say you know of nothing really about life in Africa or why those "people are starving"

Walmart and the Waltons do stand out however, JohnDB; at least in my mind. Again, employee benefits, wage and employment status and working conditions of walmart employees...all pretty telling.
Back in June the family announced a $15 billion buy back plan, through which they will control around 51% of the stock.  They have slowly been increasing their percentage for years. 
Anyway, the Waltons themselves have had tremendous imput on the business model...and thus employment policies.
..the whole Walton family history is pretty interesting in regards to the OP. The addy here is not to knock a particular denom. It is a look at individuals.
http://www.minyanville.com/special-features/articles/sam-walton-walmart-bentonville-arkansas-presbyterian/5/19/2010/id/28274

We can look at the specifics, and then decide for ourselves.

I worked at walmart for several years.  I don't have that much sympathy for its workers.

[comfy]

There are issues and problems that are designed to keep our attention away from God and how He wants us to see and evaluate our own selves. We are not going to get people of Satan's kingdom to do what is right. So, we need to choose our battles > "No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4)

No law can make people love; so where does our attention need to be first ?



Peter says, "For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17) So, if judgment begins "first" with the ones who are right . . . why is it that the attention of certain people is first going to judging gays and abortionists and the abusively rich

Peter also says, "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) So . . . our example works, including how we are "first" about evaluating ourselves and how we can be wrong, and how we are honest by making others wise to us so they can't be fooled whenever we ourselves are wrong. If the most right ones get judged "first", why are ones mainly pointing their fingers at corrupt politicians, etc., and not their own selves Hypocrisy and judgmental conceit is worse; so this could be "why".

But while so many are decoyed to trying to control and judge others, Abraham got "all the nations of the earth" blessed, simply by obeying God > "'In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.'" (Genesis 22:18)

[cs80918]

yes it would be good if very wealthy people gave more, but that is for them to decide.It is for us to decide what we do with what we have, whether that be a lot or little.

That is like saying it is up to each individual to decide if the ten commandments is appropriate for them or not. 

Seriously, if you are super rich you could take 10 million and live off the interest the rest of your life.  If you have acquired enough money to supply all your needs and your family's needs and you have money left over for vacation and entertainment, the rest of the money should be used to help others.  Where is your heart if you have all the money for your needs plus enough money for 5 -10 vacations a year, tons of disposable income and then enough money left over to burn?  What we do with out money is an outward measure of our hearts and faith.

[larry2]

I worked at walmart for several years.  I don't have that much sympathy for its workers.

Not attempting to judge your reasons, but I've got a friend out of prison at a halfway house that once worked there and it seems to boil down to perspective. He has not been able to find any kind of a job for over a year, and would love to go back to work for them.

[cs80918]

What are you doing to make sure that you are on equal ground with those billions of people earning only $1.25 or $2.50 per day? You are rich in their eyes? The following article might be interesting to you.

WikipediA - 2005, 48,3 % of the world population 3,14 billions of people) has an income of less than 2,5 US$/day. 21,5 % of the world population (1,4 billions of people) has an income of less than 1,25 US$/day.[10] 1981, 60,4 % of the world population (2,73 billions of people) had an income of less than 2,5 US$/day and 42,2 % of the world population (1,91 billions of people) had an income of less than 1,25 US$/day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_inequality

The problem would be solved if the 3 or 5 trillion dollars that is in the hands of the super rich would be put to good use. Neither you or I would have to make $1.25 a day, neither anyone else.

No wonder the world is in such a bad place even so called Christians would rather blame people with little resources for the problems.

[cs80918]

Having excessive amounts of money is not a sin. However, loving that money more than God is a sin. They may be giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to help people. Who are we to judge what another man should do with his money?

They built a great company that makes them lots of money. Do not deny a wage earner his wages. They shouldn't be denied getting paid for work and as far as I know they pay all of their employees. Big companies that make lots of money pay lots of paychecks which provide lots of people with food, housing, and clothing.

Thank you for the basic economics lesson.  However; the reality is that many people are starving and live in bad conditions, because of a few super wealthy people hording money.  Look over there in Libya look at all the billions that Gadafi horded for himself, when many people were starving.

The good news there are and has been righteous wealthy people who have given generously, one example is/

Robert G. LeTourneau- a very wealthy man
For most of his successful life, he lived on 10 percent of his income and gave 90 percent
to Christian work. "The question,

[cs80918]

Ah yes Cs80918, it's easy to sit back and say what others should be doing better or with what they have. I have two kidneys that work so in some people's eyes that makes me rich. Am I being evil not having one of them cut out of me and given to someone?

The fact I have a computer that connects to the Internet and two cars in the driveway makes me WILDLY and excessively rich compared to most of the world's population. Should I give those things up? We ate at Olive Garden today and it cost us about $30 for two people. Was I sinning?

I notice that you quote passages. I think it's important we not ignore passages too. For example:

Proverbs 10:22 says, "The blessing of the Lord brings wealth, without painful toil for it."

All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty" (Proverbs 14:23).

"Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. He who gathers crops in the summer is a wise son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son" (Proverbs 10:4,5).

"One who is slack in his work is a close relative of one who destroys" (Proverbs 18:9).

"I went past the field of a sluggard, past the vineyard of someone who has no sense; thorns had come up everywhere, the ground was covered with weeds, and the stone wall was in ruins. I applied my heart to what I observed and learned a lesson from what I saw: A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest--and poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man" (Proverbs 24:30-34).

"A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children" (Proverbs 13:22).

You might want to take a look at this article: http://www.gracecentered.com/what_the_Bible_says_about_money.htm but the bottom line is, there's nothing wrong with having wealth. A rich person doesn't owe you or anyone else a dime of what he/she has earned. I can sit back and say that since you have two arms you should have one amputated to give to an armless person. We can play the "you should do this with your stuff" game all day long. It's judgmental and usually hypocritical because as others have pointed out, anyone able to view this forum is "rich" compared to most of the world.

And it's not because a few are "hording wealth." There's a reason it's called currency. Money is spent, invested and even when saved is used by banks to make loans. No body buried their money in a bucket. Wealthy people invest in start-up companies that create jobs. They buy expensive things that employ others. The dollar I have is used and benefits more than just me because I don't get anyone from it unless I do something with it (spend, save or invest).

I'm sure we all can say that someone else is wasting their talent, money, posessions, organs, hair, whatever. We all have a right to our opinion but don't have the right to force someone to do something we think they should do with their stuff.

THANKS AGAIN FOR A BASIC ECONOMICS LESSONS, the information you spouted about "No body buried their money in a bucket. Wealthy people invest in start-up companies that create jobs. They buy expensive things that employ others. The dollar I have is used and benefits more than just me because I don't get anyone from it unless I do something with it (spend, save or invest)."

All you just said is easy to understand, but the fact remains there is an excess.  I am not talking about people not working and the government or other people supporting them.  I am talking about a CEO or company owner getting paid 10 million dollars or 50 billion dollars or whatever and then paying their employees $10 an hour or some horrible low wage.  I pay my people way more than that, some of my have made more than me.

[cs80918]

Capitalism and the free market is not God, greed is not good.  Do the Watons who run walmart really need 100 or 200 billion?  Many people think that bill gates or carlos slim run the most profitable companies, but really wal mart does it is just split up among 4 or 6 people.

Anyways, back to my point.  There is an excess that is evil. 

There is a verse in the new testament about working to provide for your own needs and then if you have extra to help other people with it.

I mean seriously can't they be happy living off of 500,000 a year?  I'm happy living off of 50,000 a year.

Do they really need 50 million dollar houses?  How can they spend that excessive amount of money with little children around the world starving?  How many people could be fed and clothed with all that excess money?

Sure the people who sold the home made some money by selling it etc, but there is just a gross excess.

I went to college and took economics and I know about that, but come on there is an excess at some point.  Seriously, is a 100,000 car more important than feeding a 1,000 kids in africa?

Psalm 112:5
It is well with the man who deals generously and lends, who conducts his affairs with justice.

Proverbs 16:8
Better is a little with righteousness than great income with injustice

Malachi 3:5
Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me, says the LORD of hosts.

James 5:1-6
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure! Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and put to death the righteous man; he does not resist you.

I think you should worry about whether or not your own tithe, offerings and charity is pleasing to God... and let the rest of us do the same.   

Avenger

If you are going to reply to my post, answer my question, don't say something silly like "You should like at yourself"

Come on now!  Get with it!

[cs80918]

Christians are not to be as Robbin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. 

This is what Pres. Obama wants to do to "fix" are jobless rate, instead of looking at his own corrupt US government waste of our monies, no...lets just TAKE IT from the rich.

We are not a socialist country, we are not a Christian government, or nation.

If you are a Christian, God will provide your needs, for some that is bread, and a tent.  For others that is a Mansion with a pool and tennis courts.  Who are we to judge the Potter, or who God blesses with much or less.

Those who have much are to give much, that is between them and God, we have NO RIGHT to force them to give, nor to judge.

I am not saying we should force anyone to give.  Who says a Christian has no right to judge?  Are you like the heathen who everytime a person tells them they are doing something wrong they say "Judge not lest you be judged?"

1 Corinthians 6:3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

I am blessed and I know that and I give, if though I could give more, sure.  I have been in the wealthy category in the past and I gave some money, but not nearly enough.  However; by wasting my money on myself I realized that it not what God wants.

The bible says that a reason a christian does not get what they want when they pray if, because they would use that money on their pleasures or to use that money to further their walk in the flesh.

[Jaime]

Then we all agree that it is a personal conscience thing and not something our govetnment ought to be addressing in a redistributive manner? Shoot, we may all Republicans afterall!

[larry2]

No wonder the world is in such a bad place even so called Christians would rather blame people with little resources for the problems.

So called Christians? As pertaining to your OP, everything the world does is nothing but sin; even philanthropy. Proverbs 21:4  "An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin." Romans 3:10  "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one."

You ask if we think it is evil for the super rich not to give more money, and the answer is yes, but their sin is no more disqualifying for the kingdom than a single lie, and Psalms 116:11  tells us that all men are liars.

[cs80918]

There are issues and problems that are designed to keep our attention away from God and how He wants us to see and evaluate our own selves. We are not going to get people of Satan's kingdom to do what is right. So, we need to choose our battles > "No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4)

No law can make people love; so where does our attention need to be first ?



Peter says, "For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17) So, if judgment begins "first" with the ones who are right . . . why is it that the attention of certain people is first going to judging gays and abortionists and the abusively rich

Peter also says, "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) So . . . our example works, including how we are "first" about evaluating ourselves and how we can be wrong, and how we are honest by making others wise to us so they can't be fooled whenever we ourselves are wrong. If the most right ones get judged "first", why are ones mainly pointing their fingers at corrupt politicians, etc., and not their own selves Hypocrisy and judgmental conceit is worse; so this could be "why".

But while so many are decoyed to trying to control and judge others, Abraham got "all the nations of the earth" blessed, simply by obeying God > "'In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.'" (Genesis 22:18)

Christians have a hard time answering questions.  Wow!  You are so wise and insightful, yeah right!...  Answer the question..


You could of just said "no, I don't think it is evil for the super rich to horde their money"

[cs80918]

I worked at walmart for several years.  I don't have that much sympathy for its workers.

Not attempting to judge your reasons, but I've got a friend out of prison at a halfway house that once worked there and it seems to boil down to perspective. He has not been able to find any kind of a job for over a year, and would love to go back to work for them.

Send me a message and I will put your friend to work as long as he didn't kill or rape someone.

[cs80918]

Then we all agree that it is a personal conscience thing and not something our govetnment ought to be addressing in a redistributive manner? Shoot, we may all Republicans afterall!

Yes I agree to what you said, but you did not answer my original question.

[cs80918]

No wonder the world is in such a bad place even so called Christians would rather blame people with little resources for the problems.

So called Christians? As pertaining to your OP, everything the world does is nothing but sin; even philanthropy. Proverbs 21:4  "An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin." Romans 3:10  "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one."

You ask if we think it is evil for the super rich not to give more money, and the answer is yes, but their sin is no more disqualifying for the kingdom than a single lie, and Psalms 116:11  tells us that all men are liars.

Thank you for answering the orginal questions, it seems that people on this forum just can't follow directions.