are you sure you are serving Jesus?

[daq]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

Dear Beta
Yeshua said no such thing concerning any "tomb" where he would be spending three days and three nights:

Matthew 12:40 KJV
40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart (GSN#2588 "kardia") of the earth (GSN#1093 "ge").

Original Strong's Ref. #2588
Romanized  kardia
Pronounced kar-dee'-ah
elongated form from the primary kar (Latin, cor, "heart"); the heart, i.e. (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind); also (by analogy) the middle:
KJV--(+ broken-)heart(-ed).

Original Strong's Ref. #1093
Romanized  ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

If you want to know what he means by "the kardia of the soil"-'adamah (a blood pumping organ of the human body) then perhaps the "Parable of the Sower" is a good place to start(over). And oh what a great Day of atonement-cleansing it will be, (three days and three nights that is) but each in his or her own appointed time. 

[daq]

Jonah 2:1-10 KJV
1.  Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,
2.  And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
3.  For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
4.  Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
5.  The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
6.  I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.
7.  When my soul fainted within me I remembered the Lord: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
8.  They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.
9.  But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.
10.  And the Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

[Beta]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

Dear Beta
Yeshua said no such thing concerning any "tomb" where he would be spending three days and three nights:

Matthew 12:40 KJV
40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart (GSN#2588 "kardia") of the earth (GSN#1093 "ge").

Original Strong's Ref. #2588
Romanized  kardia
Pronounced kar-dee'-ah
elongated form from the primary kar (Latin, cor, "heart"); the heart, i.e. (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind); also (by analogy) the middle:
KJV--(+ broken-)heart(-ed).

Original Strong's Ref. #1093
Romanized  ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

If you want to know what he means by "the kardia of the soil"-'adamah (a blood pumping organ of the human body) then perhaps the "Parable of the Sower" is a good place to start(over). And oh what a great Day of atonement-cleansing it will be, (three days and three nights that is) but each in his or her own appointed time. 

Hi daq , I am by no means 'educated like yourself and have to be content with a simple mind for which I make no apology (1Cor.1).
So when Jesus drew the analogy between Jonah and Himself Mat.12v39,40; it seemed reasonable to think he meant an equal period of time. That their confinement would be in different places was not really the issue...to me as I understood. And indeed followoing further scriptures led to a different fact than that believed in trad christianity.  

Afraid I fail to see how the 'parable of the sower' could determine /confirm Jesus' prediction . Not that it has not a valid purpose as all parables have.!

[daq]

Hi Beta
First off there is no way Yeshua was crucified on a Wednesday or Thursday if one believes that Palm Sunday was indeed a Sunday, (which it was). The Gospel of Mark lays out the entire week:

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More importantly the "Parable of the Sower" tells us exactly what the true earth-soil-ground-'adamah is to YHWH. It has much more to do with man and the "soil of the heart" than it does with "planet Earth" or the physical terrene-globe of the world, (but, of course, context is everything). In the Hebrew this difference is made clear with the two different words used for earth-land-soil-ground etc., which are 'erets (land) and 'adamah (soil). The soil which the Creator used to form the man Adam is called 'adamah and this is the "soil of the heart" whether for the good or the bad. In the Hebrew the 'adamah is more like the "soul" (which is the true man) and yet the 'erets is more like the outward body of the flesh, (outer court of the Temple including its outer precincts for the common or "profane").

Matthew 13:18-13 KJV
18.  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19.  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart (GSN#2588 "kardia"). This is he which received seed by the way side.
20.  But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21.  Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22.  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23.  But he that received seed into the good ground (GSN#1093 "ge") is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

[daq]

Here is a perfect example Beta ~

Ezekiel 36:16-28 KJV
16.  Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
17.  Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, (HSN#127 'adamah) they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18.  Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, (HSN#776 'erets) and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19.  And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: (HSN#776 'erets) according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20.  And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land (HSN#776 'erets).
21.  But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22.  Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23.  And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24.  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, (HSN#776 'erets) and will bring you into your own land (HSN#127 'adamah).
25.  Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26.  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27.  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28.  And ye shall dwell in the land (HSN#776 'erets) that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be My people, and I will be your God.

Original Strong's Ref. #127
Romanized  'adamah
Pronounced ad-aw-maw'
from HSN0119; soil (from its general redness):
KJV--country, earth, ground, husband[-man] (-ry), land.

Original Strong's Ref. #776
Romanized  'erets
Pronounced eh'-rets
from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or, partitively, a land):
KJV--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.

The passage speaks not of a literal, physical, or "geographic location" on a map, or on planet Earth, but rather concerns the people of YHWH including yourself, myself, and all those who come to Christ in faith. He is going to cleanse your heart-'adamah first and then shall you come to dwell in the land-'erets promised to the fathers: because the Torah of YHWH will be written in the "fertile soil"-'adamah of your heart!

 

[INJ]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

In the scriptures its written in Leviticus 24:22 - Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God No law, no need to go to church, its in the law (commandments), even on the wrong day of the week Sunday!

"No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse.  And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins". (Mark 2: 21,22)

Amen. Godly wisdom Fish.

[bro.tan]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

In the scriptures its written in Leviticus 24:22 - Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God No law, no need to go to church, its in the law (commandments), even on the wrong day of the week Sunday!

"No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse.  And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins". (Mark 2: 21,22)

Lets go into Ephesian 2: 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:  18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;


So Paul is saying that the Gentile are now fellowcitizens with the saints, or Israelites. Pay attention to the last verse, verse  20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Understand what foundation is, and you will see that you have to go back in the old book, there no testamony without the old book. Try walking in a house with no foundation. I understand why you uses Mark 2: 21,22, but in this case theres nothing new, and thats what you have to understand. Also Paul said in romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. You do know that the scriptures are from Genesis to malachi, if not you just learn now.

[daq]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

In the scriptures its written in Leviticus 24:22 - Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God No law, no need to go to church, its in the law (commandments), even on the wrong day of the week Sunday!

"No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse.  And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins". (Mark 2: 21,22)

Lets go into Ephesian 2: 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:  18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;


So Paul is saying that the Gentile are now fellowcitizens with the saints, or Israelites. Pay attention to the last verse, verse  20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Understand what foundation is, and you will see that you have to go back in the old book, there no testamony without the old book. Try walking in a house with no foundation. I understand why you uses Mark 2: 21,22, but in this case theres nothing new, and thats what you have to understand. Also Paul said in romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. You do know that the scriptures are from Genesis to malachi, if not you just learn now.

And in addition to Chief Cornerstone ~ NEW SPIRIT
No wonder that an old wineskin looks much like a human heart. Wineskins were not replaced with "brand new" skins every time, (way too expensive) but rather they were refreshed and renewed. In order to renew a wineskin first it would be washed in running water, (River of Life) then it would be soaked in oil, (Holy Spirit).

 

Matthew 9:17 ASV
17.  Neither do men put new wine into old wine-skins: (GSN#779 askos) else the skins burst, and the wine is spilled, and the skins perish: but they put new (GSN#3501 neos) wine into fresh (GSN#2537 kainos) wine-skins, and both are preserved.

Original Strong's Ref. #779
Romanized  askos
Pronounced as-kos'
from the same as GSN0778; a leathern (or skin) bag used as a bottle:
KJV--bottle.

Mark 2:22 ASV
22.  And no man putteth new wine into old wineskins; else the wine will burst the skins, and the wine perisheth, and the skins: but they put new (GSN#3501 neos) wine into fresh (GSN#2537 kainos) wine-skins.

And the great thing about the Word and Doctrine of Christ is that herein we have the true intended meanings of both "neos" and "kainos" in the NT writings, (because CERTAINLY all of the NT Epistles adhere to the doctrines of Yeshua). Therefore we have before us the fact that the "New Covenant" is a RENEWED-REFRESHED-KAINOS COVENANT.

NEW SPIRIT  ~  RENEWED HEART

John 7: 38-39 YGB
38.  he who is believing in me, according as the Writing said, Rivers out of his belly shall flow of living water;'
39.  and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV
13.  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 5:18 KJV
18.  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

 

[fish153]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Are you saying that Jesus' Spirit was 'lawless and not obedient to God his Father ?
You are going against scripture my friend. Jesus kept his Fathers Commandments which include sabbath-keeping. Not only because he was a Jew but because the sabbath was made for man way before any mention of Jews.
Jesus is still Lord of the Sabbath in the NT for us today...his Spirit is eternal.

Beta--

I said no such thing.  Jesus was a Jew and was the only one who has ever kept the WHOLE Law perfectly.  The Law was fulfilled in Him. We have the Spirit of God living within our hearts---there is no further need to 'observe days'.  Those who are so taken up with the Sabbath and Saturdays remind me of the Pharisees who were so hung up on the Law that they were offended that Jesus would heal a man with a withered hand on the Sabbath, or that they were eating corn on the Sabbath, etc, etc.  They are so taken up with what day is the correct day to worship that they forget mercy and judgment just as the Pharisees did.

[howard]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Fish

where was the Jew when the Lord did this act in the first book of the bible?

Genesis 2:3
Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

where is the Jew in the last book of the bible?

Revelation 22:13-15
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


Is the they Jews only or all mankind?

[howard]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Are you saying that Jesus' Spirit was 'lawless and not obedient to God his Father ?
You are going against scripture my friend. Jesus kept his Fathers Commandments which include sabbath-keeping. Not only because he was a Jew but because the sabbath was made for man way before any mention of Jews.
Jesus is still Lord of the Sabbath in the NT for us today...his Spirit is eternal.

if we go by Fish understanding then we have to take a close look at Paul

is Paul a Jew or Benjamite?

lets read where Paul is from the tribe of benjamin,

Paul is not from the tribe of Judah

so is Paul really a Jew.

now we have this benjamite keeping the sabbath day long after Jesus death and resurrection.
 
Romans 11:1
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Philippians 3:5
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

now for you gentiles that are out there Paul taught your forefathers to keep the sabbth day in the NT long after Jesus death and resurrection

lets read

Acts 13
42And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

43Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

44And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.


wait a minute you mean that the non-jews (GENTILES) kept the sabbath in the NT?

Are you sure you are serving Jesus?

[howard]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

AMEN!!!

[howard]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

Dear Beta
Yeshua said no such thing concerning any "tomb" where he would be spending three days and three nights:

Matthew 12:40 KJV
40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart (GSN#2588 "kardia") of the earth (GSN#1093 "ge").

Original Strong's Ref. #2588
Romanized  kardia
Pronounced kar-dee'-ah
elongated form from the primary kar (Latin, cor, "heart"); the heart, i.e. (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind); also (by analogy) the middle:
KJV--(+ broken-)heart(-ed).

Original Strong's Ref. #1093
Romanized  ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

If you want to know what he means by "the kardia of the soil"-'adamah (a blood pumping organ of the human body) then perhaps the "Parable of the Sower" is a good place to start(over). And oh what a great Day of atonement-cleansing it will be, (three days and three nights that is) but each in his or her own appointed time. 

the tomb is the heart of the earth or we can call it a grave also.

[howard]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Are you saying that Jesus' Spirit was 'lawless and not obedient to God his Father ?
You are going against scripture my friend. Jesus kept his Fathers Commandments which include sabbath-keeping. Not only because he was a Jew but because the sabbath was made for man way before any mention of Jews.
Jesus is still Lord of the Sabbath in the NT for us today...his Spirit is eternal.

if we go by Fish understanding then we have to take a close look at Paul

is Paul a Jew or Benjamite

lets read where Paul is from the tribe of benjamin, Paul is not from the tribe of Judah so is Paul really a Jew.
now we have this benjamite keeping the sabbath day long after Jesus death and resurrection. \
 
Romans 11:1
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Philippians 3:5
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

now for you gentiles that are out there Paul taught your forefathers to keep the sabbth day in the NT long after Jesus death and resurrection

lets read for yourself


Acts 13

42And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

43Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

44And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

wait a minute you mean that the non-jews (GENTILES) kept the sabbath in the NT?

Are you sure you are serving Jesus?

[MeMyself]

Matthew 25:40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Since I've done things for the "least of these", I'm fully confident I am serving Jesus and pleasing God.  Thanks for askin'! 

[howard]

Matthew 25:40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Since I've done things for the "least of these", I'm fully confident I am serving Jesus and pleasing God.  Thanks for askin'! 

thanks for replying

yet I will ask what things have you done for the least?

and the reason I ask is because of these people in Matthew 7

Matthew7
  21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


and here

I need you on the south side of Chicago, because we have many people who would need someone like you
because they will come up to you and say they are hungry or you will see the children without coats or in the summer in need of water.

how many of the followers of Jesus give to the people in the streets who God may send to them?

Matthew 25

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

[MeMyself]

Matthew 25:40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Since I've done things for the "least of these", I'm fully confident I am serving Jesus and pleasing God.  Thanks for askin'!  

thanks for replying

yet I will ask what things have you done for the least?

Hmmm...well, since its between myself and God I will point out this scripture...

Matthew 6:3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

I don't want it to look like my acts of kindness were for MY glory at all, so I choose not to boast of them.

Matthew 6:2 "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

They were for God's glory alone.
God bless!

[howard]

People will see your deeds and your fruits because you are a example of the Lord.

Philippians 1:10-12
10That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.

11Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

12But I would ye should understand, brethren, that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel;


Matthew 7:19-21 (King James Version)

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


John 13:15
For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

1 Timothy 4:12
Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

[howard]

1 Peter 2:20-22 (King James Version)

20For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:  

22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


Jesus kept the commandments
Jesus kept the sabbath
Jesus kept the feast days
Jesus was circumcised
Jesus was baptised
Jesus never said he was saved from the grave when the Father rraised him up
Jesus was born again after he died and was raised from the grave.
Jesus committed no sin and no guile was found in his mouth

Peter said follow in Jesus steps.

[howard]

the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was an example to us that we should not do as they did.

what did they do?

Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Genesis 13:13
But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

what is sin?

1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


so what Sodom and Gomorrah did is a example to us on what not to do

[MeMyself]

People will see your deeds and your fruits because you are a example of the Lord.

Philippians 1:10-12
10That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.

11Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

12But I would ye should understand, brethren, that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel;


Matthew 7:19-21 (King James Version)

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


John 13:15
For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

1 Timothy 4:12
Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

Yes, by our fruit, not our boasting. 

[MeMyself]

1 Peter 2:20-22 (King James Version)

20For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:  

22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


Jesus kept the commandments
Jesus kept the sabbath
Jesus kept the feast days
Jesus was circumcised
Jesus was baptised
Jesus never said he was saved from the grave when the Father rraised him up
Jesus was born again after he died and was raised from the grave.
Jesus committed no sin and no guile was found in his mouth

Peter said follow in Jesus steps.

Yes, we should follow Him (emulate Him) because He is our example...but following Him does not save our souls.  His death and resurrection has done that and if  "you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

In regards to what you understand Peter saying we should follow Jeus on...Jesus says this about what is most important to Him...serving the least of these and acknowledging Him before men...

PS. Jesus, I'm pretty sure kept the dietary law as well, but Peter was given freedom to eat everything...so was he in error and sin for not following Jesus on what he ate?

[thefixer]

Dear brother Howard,
I assume you know who the Holy Spirit is and what He does as He interacts with the so blessed believer. The Spirit is one part of the essence of God. He is not an independent entity in that He is motivated only by the will GOD, which is who He is in reality. This is why, I feel, that it is so very important to establish the connection with God, through Jesus. The result being the 'gift' of the SPIRIT of GOD.
I would like you to, if you haven't already, consider some of the scripture you use in light of what I just stated. Let's begin with:
    Mat 4:4  But he answered, "It is written, 'One must not live on bread alone, but on every word coming out of the mouth of God.'"
If a person has not been indwelled with the 'Spirit' the only "..word coming out of the mouth of God.

[daq]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

Dear Beta
Yeshua said no such thing concerning any "tomb" where he would be spending three days and three nights:

Matthew 12:40 KJV
40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart (GSN#2588 "kardia") of the earth (GSN#1093 "ge").

Original Strong's Ref. #2588
Romanized  kardia
Pronounced kar-dee'-ah
elongated form from the primary kar (Latin, cor, "heart"); the heart, i.e. (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind); also (by analogy) the middle:
KJV--(+ broken-)heart(-ed).

Original Strong's Ref. #1093
Romanized  ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

If you want to know what he means by "the kardia of the soil"-'adamah (a blood pumping organ of the human body) then perhaps the "Parable of the Sower" is a good place to start(over). And oh what a great Day of atonement-cleansing it will be, (three days and three nights that is) but each in his or her own appointed time. 

Hi Beta
First off there is no way Yeshua was crucified on a Wednesday or Thursday if one believes that Palm Sunday was indeed a Sunday, (which it was). The Gospel of Mark lays out the entire week:

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More importantly the "Parable of the Sower" tells us exactly what the true earth-soil-ground-'adamah is to YHWH. It has much more to do with man and the "soil of the heart" than it does with "planet Earth" or the physical terrene-globe of the world, (but, of course, context is everything). In the Hebrew this difference is made clear with the two different words used for earth-land-soil-ground etc., which are 'erets (land) and 'adamah (soil). The soil which the Creator used to form the man Adam is called 'adamah and this is the "soil of the heart" whether for the good or the bad. In the Hebrew the 'adamah is more like the "soul" (which is the true man) and yet the 'erets is more like the outward body of the flesh, (outer court of the Temple including its outer precincts for the common or "profane").

Matthew 13:18-13 KJV
18.  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19.  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart (GSN#2588 "kardia"). This is he which received seed by the way side.
20.  But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21.  Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22.  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23.  But he that received seed into the good ground (GSN#1093 "ge") is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Here is a perfect example

Ezekiel 36:16-28 KJV
16.  Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
17.  Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, (HSN#127 'adamah) they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18.  Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, (HSN#776 'erets) and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19.  And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: (HSN#776 'erets) according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20.  And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land (HSN#776 'erets).
21.  But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22.  Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23.  And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24.  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, (HSN#776 'erets) and will bring you into your own land (HSN#127 'adamah).
25.  Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26.  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27.  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28.  And ye shall dwell in the land (HSN#776 'erets) that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be My people, and I will be your God.

Original Strong's Ref. #127
Romanized  'adamah
Pronounced ad-aw-maw'
from HSN0119; soil (from its general redness):
KJV--country, earth, ground, husband[-man] (-ry), land.

Original Strong's Ref. #776
Romanized  'erets
Pronounced eh'-rets
from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or, partitively, a land):
KJV--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.

The passage speaks not of a literal, physical, or "geographic location" on a map, or on planet Earth, but rather concerns the people of YHWH including yourself, myself, and all those who come to Christ in faith. He is going to cleanse your heart-'adamah first and then shall you come to dwell in the land-'erets promised to the fathers: because the Torah of YHWH will be written in the "fertile soil"-'adamah of your heart!

 

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

Dear Beta
Yeshua said no such thing concerning any "tomb" where he would be spending three days and three nights:

Matthew 12:40 KJV
40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart (GSN#2588 "kardia") of the earth (GSN#1093 "ge").

Original Strong's Ref. #2588
Romanized  kardia
Pronounced kar-dee'-ah
elongated form from the primary kar (Latin, cor, "heart"); the heart, i.e. (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind); also (by analogy) the middle:
KJV--(+ broken-)heart(-ed).

Original Strong's Ref. #1093
Romanized  ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

If you want to know what he means by "the kardia of the soil"-'adamah (a blood pumping organ of the human body) then perhaps the "Parable of the Sower" is a good place to start(over). And oh what a great Day of atonement-cleansing it will be, (three days and three nights that is) but each in his or her own appointed time. 

the tomb is the heart of the earth or we can call it a grave also.

For the same reasoning the "Prophecy Futurists" have no acceptable answer to the "Full Preterist" arguments because the Preterists know the Scripture well and use it like the Sword that it is. Yet, just like you, neither of them is willing to hear that the "fertile soil of the heart" is the true land of Judaea, and thus, (circumcision being of the heart and not of the flesh) there are therefore true Jews, (of the Spirit and the "fertile Judaean soil of the heart") and then there are those in Philadelphia who claim to be Jews and are not, (Rev.3:9). One of the Futurists recently graced the halls with her insinuations and indirect accusations towards all those who disagreed with her as being used of the devil and Satan. Yet, now that she has accomplished the work of her mother, the very board where she boasted and fronted her uncovered head is now flooded with Full Preterits and yet she is nowhere to be found in the brutal debates which are currently engulfing the same board, (which is not surprising, for as is the mother so is the daughter). Oh what a great fire is kindled by the tongue, being so little a member, yet boasting such great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! The tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. Oh well, that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of her neighbor, the poor of the flock understand.

 

[Beta]

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Are you saying that Jesus' Spirit was 'lawless and not obedient to God his Father ?
You are going against scripture my friend. Jesus kept his Fathers Commandments which include sabbath-keeping. Not only because he was a Jew but because the sabbath was made for man way before any mention of Jews.
Jesus is still Lord of the Sabbath in the NT for us today...his Spirit is eternal.

Beta--

I said no such thing.  Jesus was a Jew and was the only one who has ever kept the WHOLE Law perfectly.  The Law was fulfilled in Him. We have the Spirit of God living within our hearts---there is no further need to 'observe days'.  Those who are so taken up with the Sabbath and Saturdays remind me of the Pharisees who were so hung up on the Law that they were offended that Jesus would heal a man with a withered hand on the Sabbath, or that they were eating corn on the Sabbath, etc, etc.  They are so taken up with what day is the correct day to worship that they forget mercy and judgment just as the Pharisees did.

I fail to see how anyone can claim to have the Spirit of Christ/God IN THEM and then live/walk CONTRARY to it
If one walks contrary to God's Spirit then that person is walking IN HIS OWN SPIRIT. Is not the Spirit of God DIFFERENT from the human spirit ? If we don't have HIS Spirit we are none of HIS.
GOD is Law-giver and whosoever transgresses the law (the Commandments NT) commits sin 1Joh 3v4 NT. How can anyone say there is no law to keep ? Are not the Commandments spiritual and eternal ? Rom.7.
The Sabbaths are 'Holy time God sanctified and reserved for his communication with man. This has nothing to do with the Jews or the Pharisees. It is NOT THEIR time - it is GOD's OWN time Lev.23. Man can not do as he likes with things/time  decreed,blessed and sanctified by GOD unless he sets himself above God.

[Beta]

I can only say again that Jesus specified and concentrated more on a certain 'time' in Mat.12v40 and was not in particular making reference to the location of where he would be.
The ' time ' he would spend in the 'grave' would 'prove' to make him the 'true Christ' as opposed to 'the imposter' who was not fulfilling Jesus' prediction and thus showing himself to be a liar and a false christ.
Biblically there can not be 3 days and 3 nights = 72 hours from friday sunset to sunday sunrise when deceived people celebrate his resurrection ,also unbiblical.

[thefixer]

Dear sister Beta,
Considering the period of time ---three days and three nights --- I too had a problem with my understanding and scriptural understanding not coming together. After a great deal of research I came to realize that the Jewish notion of a day, during the times of the Bible, and our modern notion are not the same. Please read the following Commentaries that I got from E-Sword.

Wesley writes:
Matthew 12:40  Three days and three nights - It was customary with the eastern nations to reckon any part of a natural day of twenty - four hours, for the whole day. Accordingly they used to say a thing was done after three or seven days, if it was done on the third or seventh day, from that which was last mentioned. Instances of this may be seen, 1Ki_20:29; and in many other places. And as the Hebrews had no word to express a natural day, they used night and day, or day and night for it. So that to say a thing happened after three days and three nights, was with them the very same, as to say, it happened after three days, or on the third day. See Est_4:16; Est_5:1; Gen_7:4, Gen_7:12; Exo_24:18; Exo_34:28. Jon_2:1.

Jamieson, Fausset and Brown writes:
Matthew 12:40 
For as Jonas was — "a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation

[daq]

Dear sister Beta,
Considering the period of time ---three days and three nights --- I too had a problem with my understanding and scriptural understanding not coming together. After a great deal of research I came to realize that the Jewish notion of a day, during the times of the Bible, and our modern notion are not the same. Please read the following Commentaries that I got from E-Sword.

Wesley writes:
Matthew 12:40  Three days and three nights - It was customary with the eastern nations to reckon any part of a natural day of twenty - four hours, for the whole day. Accordingly they used to say a thing was done after three or seven days, if it was done on the third or seventh day, from that which was last mentioned. Instances of this may be seen, 1Ki_20:29; and in many other places. And as the Hebrews had no word to express a natural day, they used night and day, or day and night for it. So that to say a thing happened after three days and three nights, was with them the very same, as to say, it happened after three days, or on the third day. See Est_4:16; Est_5:1; Gen_7:4, Gen_7:12; Exo_24:18; Exo_34:28. Jon_2:1.

Jamieson, Fausset and Brown writes:
Matthew 12:40  
For as Jonas was — "a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation

[thefixer]

Dear brother daq,
Might I ask you, Of what ethnicity was Jesus, the writers of scripture, and the witnesses to the life and death of Jesus? were they not all Jews? doesn't it follow that they would speak in terms they were used to speaking in? And don't you think it at all possible that you are placing your understanding and expectations ahead of complete acceptance of the contextual approach to Biblical understanding?
The last part of your post I find interesting in light of your stance. You wrote:
"When Yeshua appeared to the two on the road to Emmaus it was absolutely NOT yet three days and three nights to the full. Therefore what I have stated above is the TRUTH."
It reads to me as Three days and Three nights had not yet past when Jesus appeared. Or perhaps you are stating the same as I, that Three days and Three nights do NOT equate to today's measurement of time.
Your loving brother in Christ, LeRoy (thefixer).

[Beta]

Hi the fixer, Why would I want to read various commentaries written by MEN when I have the Word of GOD/Christ ?
Jesus tells us exactly how long a biblical day/night is Joh.11v9,10; that is all we need to know to make the right calculations regarding his prediction in Mat.12v40.
Jesus was buried and rose again 'according to scripture 1Cor.15v4, not according to human understanding. Thank you for your trouble.

[thefixer]

Dear sister Beta,
Might I ask if use a concordance to aid in your Bible study?
Your brother in Christ, LeRoy (thefixer).

[Hawking]

Wow! Lot of info. I like the part in the first chapter of the Book of Acts, right where it states, " Many infallible proofs".

[Beta]

Dear sister Beta,
Might I ask if use a concordance to aid in your Bible study?
Your brother in Christ, LeRoy (thefixer).

The only dictionary/ concordance I use is in the back of my battered KJV which only refers me back to scriptures.
It is precisely all the many human ideas/interpretations/opinions that satan uses to confuse mankind Rev.12v9. The carnal mind is a vast oportunity to be exploited and 'boy - does he take advantage of it.Rom.8v7 The ignorant self-seeking mind is like a lamb to the slaughter ....hence the ' MANY' on the road to destruction.

[howard]

People will see your deeds and your fruits because you are a example of the Lord.

Philippians 1:10-12
10That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.

11Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

12But I would ye should understand, brethren, that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel;


Matthew 7:19-21 (King James Version)

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


John 13:15
For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

1 Timothy 4:12
Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

Yes, by our fruit, not our boasting. 

ok

remove the boasting

are you sure you are serving Jesus?

helping people is not all of the criteria for serving Jesus

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1 Peter 2:20-22 (King James Version)

20For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:  

22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


Jesus kept the commandments
Jesus kept the sabbath
Jesus kept the feast days
Jesus was circumcised
Jesus was baptised
Jesus never said he was saved from the grave when the Father rraised him up
Jesus was born again after he died and was raised from the grave.
Jesus committed no sin and no guile was found in his mouth

Peter said follow in Jesus steps.

Yes, we should follow Him (emulate Him) because He is our example...but following Him does not save our souls.  His death and resurrection has done that and if  "you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

and you are correct but Paul goes on to say in the same chapter that the people have not heard or beleive the report on Jesus and how shall they hear unless they have a preacher sent from God.

so it much more than confessing because of all the stipulations that Paul addresses in the barrage of question he aske after.

it say you shall be saved which is future.

Romans 10

13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?

and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15And how shall they preach, except they be sent?

as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

understand what Paul is saying hear in Romans 10 he is asking are you really serving Jesus
who has beleived in Jesus?

In regards to what you understand Peter saying we should follow Jeus on...Jesus says this about what is most important to Him...serving the least of these and acknowledging Him before men...

how do we acknowledge him before men? with our mouth? with confession? no, with deeds.

PS. Jesus, I'm pretty sure kept the dietary law as well, but Peter was given freedom to eat everything...so was he in

where is this written?