Calling all non-Trinitarians ... Are there any of you here?

[fish153]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]”  (Acts 5:3-4)

How can you LIE to an "IT"?  You can jump through all the hoops you want to make the scripture fit your theology.  But there are numerous verses which show that the Holy Spirit is a PERSON.

The question isn't just whether one of whether there is a person involved, it's a question of whether there are seperate persons. 

See how Paul restates himself in the second section you bolded, substituting 'to God' instead of 'to the Holy Spirit?'  It doesn't point to multiple persons.

Jarrod

[fish153]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

The question isn't just whether one of whether there is a person involved, it's a question of whether there are seperate persons. 

See how Paul restates himself in the second section you bolded, substituting 'to God' instead of 'to the Holy Spirit?'  It doesn't point to multiple persons.

Jarrod

Jarrod---

On the contrary.  Peter is EMPHASIZING that The Holy Spirit is GOD.  He is saying that Ananias has lied to the Holy Spirit(who dwells within believers), so he hasn't lied only to men, but to God Himself.

Uh... that isn't contrary, that's the same thing.  The Holy Spirit is God. 

Peter doesn't say "you lied to the Holy Spirit and also to God."  He makes them just one person.

Jarrod

[Insight]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]

[fish153]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]

[Insight]

Grammatically, the Holy Spirit is an "IT" in Greek.

Even in verses such as John 14:17...

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  
Jhn 14:17   [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  

...the word in Greek is auto, which is in neuter case - IT.  The translator has rendered it he because of his presupposed belief in the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

Jarrod

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?

We shall see.

As Larry2 pointed out in another post:

"Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.[/b]

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

No need to be condescending.

The verse says it clearly enough, "the power of the Most High."  Or, as I said in another thread - O Exousia Theou.

[Insight]

No need to be condescending.

The verse says it clearly enough, "the power of the Most High."  Or, as I said in another thread - O Exousia Theou.

Condescending - - maybe - - yes.

But thank you for highlighting "truth" for the benefit of all who are reading.

Holy Spirit = Yahweh's Power styled in the Holy Writ as THE POWER OF THE MOST HIGH GOD.

And it is His alone to do with as He pleases, through which ever medium He desires, to perform its operation upon Whom He will.

Even in the birth of His beloved Son, born of a woman of the seed of Abraham and David.

The Son of God

Amen.  

[John Zain]

Yes you are correct...but will this truth empower Christians to question the Trinity?
We shall see.

I thought everyone knew that all spirit beings are sexless.
So, of course, the Triune God is composed of 3 "It"s.
News Flash to Nosight ... trinity and triune means 3.

The Lord has bent over backwards to reveal Himself (Itself)
in ways that are more understandable and palatible to humans.

He would like for us to be able to identify with Him (It).
He would like for us to see Him (It) as personable ... like a Person you can communicate with.
We can't communicate with an "it", can we?

Or can we? As always, God is beyond understanding.
"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways

[John Zain]

I have to tell you---you say you're not a Jehovah's Witness, but you have the same theology they do.  
They use Luke 1:35 to back their teaching that the Holy Spirit is the "active force" of God.  
They also deny the Divinity of Jesus.
You don't by any chance believe only 144,000 are going to Heaven do you?

The most interesting thing of all is ...
just try to find a JW who claims to be one of those lucky 144,000.
"Not a-goin' to Heaven with da 144,000 but I'm a-gonna try my darned hardest to be a good person anyway.
It appears that I wasn't elected, so that's why I'm spiritually blind and deaf."

[fish153]

"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, AND the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

Insight/Wycliffes---

You are misinterpreting the verse.  No where does it says the Holy Spirit is simply "the power" of God.  It says the HOLY SPIRIT will come on you AND the power of the most high will overshadow you".

To give an example, one could say "Barack Obama will be at the podium, AND a voice of power will be upon the crowd".

One does not think that Barack Obama's INFLUENCE alone is HIM ----the influence is the affect of the PERSON Obama HIMSELF as he speaks.   When it says "the HOLY SPIRIT will come upon you, and the power of the most hign will overshadow you" it is the same form of speech.  His power alone is not HIM--it is the affect and attribute of the Holy Spirit Himself coming upon Mary which is being described.

Again, you want to back your theology---and you will go to great extremes to do so.

The Holy Spirit is indeed God, the third person of the Trinity. To confuse the influence of a person with the person themself is very foolish and heretical.

[Insight]

"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, AND the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

Insight/Wycliffes---

You are misinterpreting the verse.  No where does it says the Holy Spirit is simply "the power" of God.  It says the HOLY SPIRIT will come on you AND the power of the most high will overshadow you".

No Fish,
The Holy Spirit is defined and they two are manifested as being God's set apart "Power

[fish153]

"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, AND the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

Insight/Wycliffes---

You are misinterpreting the verse.  No where does it says the Holy Spirit is simply "the power" of God.  It says the HOLY SPIRIT will come on you AND the power of the most high will overshadow you".

No Fish,
The Holy Spirit is defined and they two are manifested as being God's set apart "Power

[Insight]

"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, AND the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

Insight/Wycliffes---

You are misinterpreting the verse.  No where does it says the Holy Spirit is simply "the power" of God.  It says the HOLY SPIRIT will come on you AND the power of the most high will overshadow you".

No Fish,
The Holy Spirit is defined and they two are manifested as being God's set apart "Power

[John Zain]

There is no arguing with the power of the Holy Spirit ...

Luke 4:18
"The Spirit of the LORD (Father God) is upon Me (Jesus) because He has anointed Me ..."
Why was it necessary for the Holy Spirit to be upon Jesus, the God-man?
It was necesary for Him to be anointed with the power of the Holy Spirit.

Luke 5:17
"And the power of the Lord (the Holy Spirit) was present to heal them (the multitudes)."
Just like today, the Holy Spirit is present to perform miracles of all kinds
through His believers who have faith. Too bad there ain't more.
Retraction of the last sentence above:
This super-powerful faith is one of the 9 spiritual gifts (1 Cor 12), which not many have.
(They are only given in any powerful way to those having the baptism with the Holy Spirit.)
Since it is the Lord who gives these to whomever He chooses,
we should not find fault with others who don't have them.

Matthew 12:28 -- "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God ..."

Hebrews 10:38
"... God (the Father) anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power,
who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil,
for God (the Holy Spirit) was with Him (Jesus)."
Father God made sure that the God-man had the Holy Spirit with Him to perform the miracles.
(And surely we can say that God the Father also was "with" Jesus,
for if you have one of the Members of the Triune God, you have all 3.)

WOW ... this'll raise a few hairs on a few heads (we'll give a pass to the bald).

Let's understand that Jesus, the God-man, was limited because of His partial humanity.

The 3 Members of the Triune Godhead have different functions. This should come as no surprise.
They are all in perfect unity of purpose, etc. ...
But ...
Jesus gave way to the authority of Father God.
Jesus depended on the power of the Holy Spirit.
It's kind of like: Father=CEO, Son=Administrator, HolySpirit=Workhorse

[gospel]

There is no arguing with the power of the Holy Spirit ...

Luke 5:17
And the power of the Lord (the Holy Spirit) was present to heal them (the multitudes).
Just like today, the Holy Spirit is present to perform miracles of all kinds
through His believers who have faith. Too bad there ain't more.

Hebrews 10:38
... how God (the Father) anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power,
who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil,
for God (the Holy Spirit) was with Him (Jesus).
Father God made sure that the God-man had the Holy Spirit with Him to perform the miracles.

WOW ... this'll raise a few hairs on a few heads (we'll give a pass to the bald).

Let's understand that Jesus, the God-man, was limited because of His partial humanity.

The 3 Members of the Triune Godhead have different functions. This should come as no surprise.
They are all in perfect unity of purpose, etc. ...
But ...
Jesus gave way to the authority of Father God.
Jesus depended on the power of the Holy Spirit.
It's kind of like: Father=CEO, Son=Administrator, HolySpirit=Workhorse

Or...

The Father is the Mind of God
The Son is the Face of God
The Spirit is the Hands of God

God is so awesome I have little patience to spare debating His Triune Nature

He has inundated our entire realm of perception with Triunity and we are encased so to speak, housed in, bounded as it were by Triunity simply by the mere fact that our perception is based on it!

On the topic of Triunity even science concurs because it too is bound by 3 dimensional perception

Height Depth and Width ...none of which really exists but are only God given concepts by which we navigate through life in the earthen realm

Only with our perception of space are we bound by the concept of time which too does not really exist but is just another God given concept by which we navigate through life in the earthen realm ...

..for the past does not exist and neither does the future, but both are absolutely essential in order for our perception of time to make sense to us.

So we have height- depth and width and we have past - present and future
THE CONCEPTS of Space and Time that Einstein proved through E=mc2 do not exist and are only relative

Yet God has awashed nature in Triunity in so many ways we could go on for days elaborating on them

Paul in describing the Power of God's Love, alludes to these concepts of space and time and I believe he did so simply because of the dominant role these concepts hold in the realm of human perception.

Any rudimentary student of the Bible knows that the God of the Bible transcends both time and space throughout the scriptures and because He exists outside of time and outside of space, is not bound by either.

This is demonstrated by the Father in the OT, by Jesus in the 4 Gospels whom is God stepping into time and space and then back out again and by the Holy Spirit in the Epistles who gives God's people the ability to transcend time and space by His Gifts


Referring to Paul again, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, he made it clear in Romans 8:38,39 the things that God's Love transcends and among them are space and time as seen below

38For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
39nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Knowing that God's love transcends everything Paul listed is crucial to the endurance of our faith, yet it is wise to take note that among those things Paul listed were the concepts of time and space, which in our knowing they are only concepts, weakens their ability to limit our Faith in God and their ability to hold us hostage to a type of thinking that constrains and limits our belief in what can be achieved through the Power of our Faith in God as Jesus so consistently taught

If all things we perceive our constrained by our being hostage to a 3 Dimensional perception and perspective

Why would anyone for one iota of a minute even begin to think we as humans would not perceive God the way we perceive everything else...even more so why would God want us to perceive Him in a way contrary to the way He has created us to perceive

Time is made of 3 components yet it is one thing...Time!
Space is made of 3 components yet it too is one thing...Space!

Neither is something we can quite put our finger on, yet we try to use time to conquer space....and we measure space with time, we don't even fully understand how time and distance are one in the same yet neither really exists YET they are there!

Go figure  

The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit are God, they are in fact The 3 in 1

Debating it is foolishness, yet we will and will continue to until we see Him face to face  

[John Zain]

... I have little patience to spare debating His Triune Nature ... Debating it is foolishness ...

Since you're so short on patience, please refrain from debating on the Trinity.

[gospel]

... I have little patience to spare debating His Triune Nature ... Debating it is foolishness ...

Since you're so short on patience, please refrain from debating on the Trinity.

I grew a enough patience to throw in my 2 cents....can you spare some change?

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

"The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, AND the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

Wycliffes---

You are misinterpreting the verse.  No where does it says the Holy Spirit is simply "the power" of God.  It says the HOLY SPIRIT will come on you AND the power of the most high will overshadow you".

To give an example, one could say "Barack Obama will be at the podium, AND a voice of power will be upon the crowd".

One does not think that Barack Obama's INFLUENCE alone is HIM ----the influence is the affect of the PERSON Obama HIMSELF as he speaks.   When it says "the HOLY SPIRIT will come upon you, and the power of the most hign will overshadow you" it is the same form of speech.  His power alone is not HIM--it is the affect and attribute of the Holy Spirit Himself coming upon Mary which is being described.

Again, you want to back your theology---and you will go to great extremes to do so.

The Holy Spirit is indeed God, the third person of the Trinity. To confuse the influence of a person with the person themself is very foolish and heretical.

It's a restatement - a parallelism.  It's a common writing form in Hebrew, and in the New Testament in books written by people who thought in Hebrew.  You say the same thing twice in different ways to make sure the meaning is understood.

Jarrod

[segell]

Your admonitions are putrid and lack any and all substance; for how can one who is blind endeavour to direct one who sees?

insight

It's that self-serving/centered and angry statement that speaks the loudest about whether you should be taken seriously.  It speaks volumes about the content of your heart, Insight.  You are not one to be taken seriously.  Again, you offer absolutely no insight but offer up contorted views of Scripture. 

[Insight]

Your admonitions are putrid and lack any and all substance; for how can one who is blind endeavour to direct one who sees?

insight

It's that self-serving/centered and angry statement that speaks the loudest about whether you should be taken seriously.  It speaks volumes about the content of your heart, Insight.  You are not one to be taken seriously.  Again, you offer absolutely no insight but offer up contorted views of Scripture.  

Segell

Many departed from the a true and original doctrine/Gospel and in my endeavours to correct these platonic teachings, which have entered your mind and taken you captive, I do so with vigour and with a two edged sword.

The cuts have hurt you deeply, else you would not endeavour to make it personal and divert our attention away from the Word.

You accusation of a contorted view are baseless because you are yet to provide a view of the Word, at all, and in fact you cannot do so without moving to external creeds and commandments of men.

We have seen you are unable to use Bible Language to explain the Godhead.

Very telling Segell very telling.

"The head of Christ is God"

Read, meditate, listen and learr what this meaneth  

Insight

[segell]

Your admonitions are putrid and lack any and all substance; for how can one who is blind endeavour to direct one who sees?

insight

It's that self-serving/centered and angry statement that speaks the loudest about whether you should be taken seriously.  It speaks volumes about the content of your heart, Insight.  You are not one to be taken seriously.  Again, you offer absolutely no insight but offer up contorted views of Scripture. 

Segell

Many departed from the a true and original doctrine/Gospel and in my endeavours to correct these platonic teachings, which have entered your mind and taken you captive, I do so with vigour and with a two edged sword.

The cuts have hurt you deeply, else you would not endeavour to make it personal and divert our attention away from the Word.

You accusation of a contorted view are baseless because you are yet to provide a view of the Word, at all, and in fact you cannot do so without moving to external creeds and commandments of men.

We have seen you are unable to use Bible Language to explain the Godhead.

Very telling Segell very telling.

"The head of Christ is God"

Read, meditate, listen and learr what this meaneth 

Insight

  Scary.  It's personal, Insight, because you actually teach....you.  Not God's Word but your spin on it.  And you elevate yourself to some self declared position of messenger.  And yet, in the final analysis, you've offered nothing at all.  Just what you think is your deep insight, which has proven to be no insight at all.

[Insight]

Your admonitions are putrid and lack any and all substance; for how can one who is blind endeavour to direct one who sees?

insight

It's that self-serving/centered and angry statement that speaks the loudest about whether you should be taken seriously.  It speaks volumes about the content of your heart, Insight.  You are not one to be taken seriously.  Again, you offer absolutely no insight but offer up contorted views of Scripture. 

Segell

Many departed from the a true and original doctrine/Gospel and in my endeavours to correct these platonic teachings, which have entered your mind and taken you captive, I do so with vigour and with a two edged sword.

The cuts have hurt you deeply, else you would not endeavour to make it personal and divert our attention away from the Word.

You accusation of a contorted view are baseless because you are yet to provide a view of the Word, at all, and in fact you cannot do so without moving to external creeds and commandments of men.

We have seen you are unable to use Bible Language to explain the Godhead.

Very telling Segell very telling.

"The head of Christ is God"

Read, meditate, listen and learr what this meaneth 

Insight

  Scary.  It's personal, Insight, because you actually teach....you.  Not God's Word but your spin on it.  And you elevate yourself to some self declared position of messenger.  And yet, in the final analysis, you've offered nothing at all.  Just what you think is your deep insight, which has proven to be no insight at all.

Certainly this is in the eye of the beholder.

Nothing changes the Scripture, though you may try "The Head of Christ is God"

Did I tell you Christ has a God?

Its Scriptual you know 

You may even know these passages?

We shall see.

Insight

[FireSword]

That does not prove that Christ is no God only that Jesus relied on Father God and Holy ghost God.

All are known as God, because they all took part in creation.

[Insight]

That does not prove that Christ is no God only that Jesus relied on Father God and Holy ghost God.

All are known as God, because they all took part in creation.

Your answer looks confusing and is confusing.

Always best to provide Scripture to ensure you stay within the boundaries of the Word.

Your tip of the day 

[ajb4]

Found this RZIM.org article interesting. Hope you might as well.


ISSUE: 3 Trinity: A Historical and Theological Analysis

 A distinctive feature of Christianity is its doctrine of the Trinity.  Simply put, the doctrine holds that there exists one true and living God, and that this God, without contradiction, can be denominated in terms of three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Trinitarian belief has long been a standard of orthodoxy.  And no doctrine more effectively demarcates biblical Christianity from a variety of modern cults.  Given the historical and contemporary significance of the doctrine, it is lamentable that many Christians today are unable to provide an account of the doctrine's historical development and its present formulation - a shortcoming we seek to correct in the following brief survey.

The natural starting point is the New Testament.  Here we find the authoritative writings of Jesus' apostles and their close associates, who articulate the fundamental normative beliefs of the New Testament church.  These are largely based upon and entirely consistent with the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.  While description of God as a Trinity is not offered as such in the New Testament, many passages make important and revealing affirmations about God in general, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in particular.  These passages provide the raw data used by the post-apostolic church to formulate its doctrine of the Trinity in the centuries to come.
The key texts fall into three groups: (1) those that stress continuity with Jewish monotheism in affirming that there is only one God (Mk 12:29; Rom 3:29-30; 1 Cor 8:4; 1 Tim 2:5; Jas 2:19), (2) those that represent the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three distinct individuals or persons (Mt 11:27; 26:39; 28:19; Mk 1:9-12; Lk 11:13; Jn 14:16-17, 26), and (3) those that variously refer to God in the person of the Father (Mt 6:9; cf. Is 63:16), the Son (Jn 1:1-3, 18; 20:28; Rom 9:5; Col 1:15-20; Tit 2:13; Heb 1:1-4, 8-12; 1 Jn 5:20), or the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4).  From these texts it is clear that the New Testament church, without yet formulating with precision the doctrine of the Trinity, fully endorsed the three key theological strands that would later be woven into a tight doctrinal cord: only one God exists; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons; and the title "God

[Insight]

Found this RZIM.org article interesting. Hope you might as well.


ISSUE: 3 Trinity: A Historical and Theological Analysis

It must be hard to believe in a theological expression which is silent in the Word of God.  Whenever man seeks to form unknown words to describe that which is plainly spoken of in Scripture one can always state philosophy is at work.

A distinctive feature of Christianity is its doctrine of the Trinity.  Simply put, the doctrine holds that there exists one true and living God, and that this God, without contradiction, can be denominated in terms of three distinct persons:

My general rule when reading article's like this one is as soon as error is identified, firstly I stop reading as the following points of course must therefore be error.

1. Nowhere in the Bible is God spoken of being three
2. Nowhere in the Bible are we taught about the complex trinity in verse, chapter of book
3. God's person has only ever been One.
4. The Holy Spirit is only ever identified as being the Power of God moving through mediums of Gods choosing.

Enough to consider

Insight