What did Jesus offer?

[cs80918]

Insight- Who do you think Jesus is?  Answer this please.

Good question.

The Bible provides two clear titles.

1. The Son of Man
2. The Son of God

Anything else is false.

Thanks for the answer, but I need more clarification.

Do you believe Jesus is "God the son"?

Do you believe Jesus was "God the son" manifest in the flesh?

Do you believe in God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit?

Do  you believe is not God  the son?

Do you believe Jesus is an angel?

Lets get to the very core of your belief on this subject.

Yes lets.

Show me a Scripture that states "God the Son". 

Show me a scripture that states "Jesus is not God the son".

Instead of playing these games lets just get to the core of this issue.

The bible clearly says that Jesus is God, the son of God, the son of Man, the messiah, the anointed one, the Holy one, the lamb of God (THE ENTIRE LIST IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS)

There are many names and titles for Jesus.  He is ALL OF THEM.

Jesus is not just the son of man or the son of God, he is both of them and God and the messiah and he also has many more names.

I know you said Jesus is either.

1. son of God
2. son of man

Who or what do you think was the son of God? (God the son, a person, a little god, an angel, a non-god heavenly being?)

Who or what do you think was the son of man? (God the son, a person, a little god, an angel, a non-god heavenly being?)

[gospel]

As a onetime, once and for all offering for Sin

Thanks again Gospel!

Another simple answer.

But what did he do once?

Who needs not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this Jesus did once, when he offered up himself. Heb 7:27

How so for himself if he was sinless?

Don't be quick to answer! And whatever you do Gospel do not reply with Trinitarian teaching...it won't fit!

Methinks that through over reading and not quite understanding what you are reading you are somewhat confused

Foundational truths that help clarify your dilemma are as follows;

1. No man is perfect...none!

2. No man is righteous....none!

3. No man could fulfill the Law...none!

4. No man could provide Salvation to all men....none!

Consequently

1. Only God is Perfect

2. Only God is Righteous

3. Only God can fulfill His Law

4. Only God can Provide Salvation


These are foundational truths, there is no wiggle room to play with these truths. If there is anything you are not sure about concerning these truths there is plenty of scripture which I have not taken the time to provide however each of these foundational truths stand Rock Solid in scripture

With that as the case enter Jesus

1. Jesus is Perfect Since no man is perfect That means Jesus is God / Jesus is The Lamb of God and the very term means He is flawless, without spot or blemish... Perfect in every way!

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29


2.Only Jesus is Righteous Jesus is Righteous since no man is righteous that means Jesus is God- He was born righteous, in perfect fellowship and communion with the Father, completely Right Standing before God.
Only the Purity can produce purity. Impurity cannot. In this way God made us His righteousness through Christ

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:11

But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,
1 Corinthians 1:30

3. Jesus fulfilled the Law Perfectly Since no man could fulfill the Law perfectly that means Jesus is God

that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases." Matthew 8:17

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Hebrews 10:10

4. Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone Jesus provides Salvation for all and Since it is impossible for any man to provide Salvation for themselves, much less all men, it means Jesus is God

Those who heard this asked, "Who then can be saved?

[cs80918]

Insight are you a mormon or a Jehovah witness or what?

[Insight]

As a onetime, once and for all offering for Sin

Thanks again Gospel!

Another simple answer.

But what did he do once?

Who needs not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this Jesus did once, when he offered up himself. Heb 7:27

How so for himself if he was sinless?

Don't be quick to answer! And whatever you do Gospel do not reply with Trinitarian teaching...it won't fit!

Methinks that through over reading and not quite understanding what you are reading you are somewhat confused

Foundational truths that help clarify your dilemma are as follows;

1. No man is perfect...none!

2. No man is righteous....none!

3. No man could fulfill the Law...none!

4. No man could provide Salvation to all men....none!

Consequently

1. Only God is Perfect

2. Only God is Righteous

3. Only God can fulfill His Law

4. Only God can Provide Salvation


These are foundational truths, there is no wiggle room to play with these truths. If there is anything you are not sure about concerning these truths there is plenty of scripture which I have not taken the time to provide however each of these foundational truths stand Rock Solid in scripture

With that as the case enter Jesus

1. Jesus is Perfect Since no man is perfect That means Jesus is God / Jesus is The Lamb of God and the very term means He is flawless, without spot or blemish... Perfect in every way!

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29


2.Only Jesus is Righteous Jesus is Righteous since no man is righteous that means Jesus is God- He was born righteous, in perfect fellowship and communion with the Father, completely Right Standing before God.
Only the Purity can produce purity. Impurity cannot. In this way God made us His righteousness through Christ

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:11

But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,
1 Corinthians 1:30

3. Jesus fulfilled the Law Perfectly Since no man could fulfill the Law perfectly that means Jesus is God

that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases." Matthew 8:17

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Hebrews 10:10

4. Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone Jesus provides Salvation for all and Since it is impossible for any man to provide Salvation for themselves, much less all men, it means Jesus is God

Those who heard this asked, "Who then can be saved?

[Insight]

He offered God as a sacrifice. So that God will no longer be outside in the world but in each of us, not separating us from God through other people or church or prayer. We are taken out of the world. We don't even have to mention the word God to know God. I may just start calling myself an Atheist again, just so I can live in the fullness of him. But Christians will no longer be a part of the world because there is no god out there, only in us.

Jesus told us to be ready, be ready for what? To change in a blink of an eye.

I don't know if you all are ready, are you? It's going to get really ugly out there in a minute and there isn't anything out there that will help you. But you won't need help anyway when God is already in you.

So wrong Bitter... so terribly wrong.

No Scriptures to support. 

[cs80918]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

[Insight]

Insight- Who do you think Jesus is?  Answer this please.

Good question.

The Bible provides two clear titles.

1. The Son of Man
2. The Son of God

Anything else is false.

Thanks for the answer, but I need more clarification.

Do you believe Jesus is "God the son"?

Do you believe Jesus was "God the son" manifest in the flesh?

Do you believe in God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit?

Do  you believe is not God  the son?

Do you believe Jesus is an angel?

Lets get to the very core of your belief on this subject.

Yes lets.

Show me a Scripture that states "God the Son". 

Show me a scripture that states "Jesus is not God the son".

Instead of playing these games lets just get to the core of this issue.

The bible clearly says that Jesus is God, the son of God, the son of Man, the messiah, the anointed one, the Holy one, the lamb of God (THE ENTIRE LIST IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS)

There are many names and titles for Jesus.  He is ALL OF THEM.

Jesus is not just the son of man or the son of God, he is both of them and God and the messiah and he also has many more names.

Well I search my e-Bible for God the Son and found zero hits.  However when I searched the Son of God do you know how many?

If you are comfortable in expressing Jesus with a name the Holy Spirit NEVER gave.

So be it!

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

What Scripture?

[gospel]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

[Bitter Sweet]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

[Bitter Sweet]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God. 

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

[Bitter Sweet]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is written in my heart, not you.

No Bitter.

You have run out of wisdom and now you resort to searching the net for little signs to make you feel better about yourself.

I hope it's working?

When you are ready to discuss things of substance I am here waiting...

[gospel]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

[Bitter Sweet]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

I just don't agree with your method.

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

I just don't agree with your method.

Honesty is always good and wholesome.

My method is to teach and preach a true Christ.

Nothing more and nothing less.

If you chose not to listen that is your prerogative - it's a free will thing that we all have.

[cs80918]

Insight- I am not going to play a game with you where I try to find a verse in the bible that states "Jesus is God the son"  The bible clearly says that Jesus is God and Jesus is the son of God. It also decribes Jesus with many other names.  Just as it describes your father satan, devil, serpent etc.

Insight- you believe a demonic/satanic doctrine.  Satan is just like you he knows the bible well.  When satan encountered Jesus at the end of Jesus's fasting satan used the bible to speak to Jesus.  Insight I am not insulting you I am insulting your father the devil.  The devil knows that I am a child of God and he knows that you are currently going to hell if you do not admit that Jesus is God.


The fact is and is clearly supplied in the bible that Jesus is God.



The deal is Insight that in order for me to list all the verses that state Jesus is God it would take me a long time.  Which I should do and keep in a saved file on my computer to help unGodly people like you get saved.

Luke 2:11 NIV
11For to you is born this day in the town of David a Savior, Who is Christ (the Messiah) the Lord!  What does the word Lord mean in this verse?

The Lord. Κυριος, the supreme, eternal Being, the ruler of the heavens and the earth. The Septuagint generally translate יהוה Yehovah by Κυριος. This Hebrew word, from היה hayah, he was, properly points out the eternity and self-existence of the Supreme Being; and if we may rely on the authority of Hesychius, which no scholar will call in question, Κυριος is a proper translation of יהוה Yehovah, as it comes from κυρω, - τυγχανω, I am, I exist.



Aramaic Bible in Plain English Luke 2:11
"For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.

[Thankfulldad]

What exactly did Jesus offer and why?

He offered Himself for the sins of the world; He knew no sin...yet for our sake become sin...and shed Himself on the cross for our sins.

The cross is where our Lord laid down His life for us; the value in the cross (where Jesus, God in human form) is impossible to express in human terms...though, it is where God's perfect plan of Salvation unfolded.  The effect of the cross is Salvation, sanctification, healing and so much more.  We are to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified; God made a way for us to have a relationship with Him through the cross of Jesus.  Everything in the Christian experience must point back to the cross (God's offering)...the cross shook the foundations of Hell and satan's battle was lost.

For us to know what Jesus offered and why:

Please take some time to understand what the cross of our Lord did for us.  It was there that God has given us eternal life...it was there that God made a way for us to have a relationship with Him...it was there that Jesus finished the work of Salvation...it was there that God now forgives us of our sins...it was there that God showed His love...by giving Himself up for us...the greatest gift of love known to man kind.

Everything points back to the cross where Jesus offered Himself on our behalf for those who have the God given faith; not because we deserved it...but because that is who God is...

For those who trust in God's perfect plan of salvation; God gives us His Spirit (another offering from God)...and He begins a marvelous work in our life; He shows us right from wrong...good from evil...those deceived and those who have it right.  All...because of the cross of Jesus...

Beware of anyone taking God's plan and making it all about them; for example...I am good, I don't sin, I trust in myself, it is all about me, and so on.  That is satan hard at work to destroy God's perfect plan (His perfect offering)...as the be-witched/cursed make it about self.  Self will always get in the way of God working in a persons life...the offering turns to self rather then Jesus...

[cs80918]

I pray that God stops you INSIGHT from writting or speaking until or if you finally understand and admit that Jesus is God.  God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

Jesus please show Insight the truth and if Insight hardens his/her heart and will not admit that Jesus is God that his/her mouth is stopped from speaking lies and he/she can no longer type lies on the internet or anywhere else.  If in your will God you choose to do this, I pray this will be a sign for Insight to remember and upon remembering Insight will be saved.

In the name of God the son Jesus the Messiah.

[Insight]

What exactly did Jesus offer and why?

He offered Himself for the sins of the world; He knew no sin...yet for our sake become sin...and shed Himself on the cross for our sins.

The cross is where our Lord laid down His life for us; the value in the cross (where Jesus, God in human form) is impossible to express in human terms...though, it is where God's perfect plan of Salvation unfolded.

Hi thankfulldad.

I got as far as the bold.

You need to define what you mean by impossible to express in human terms?

Jesus was human and you and I are human and yet you are not saying his offering is unintelligible.

If so, you do not know the true Gospel.

But maybe you could explain.

Insight

[Thankfulldad]

What exactly did Jesus offer and why?

He offered Himself for the sins of the world; He knew no sin...yet for our sake become sin...and shed Himself on the cross for our sins.

The cross is where our Lord laid down His life for us; the value in the cross (where Jesus, God in human form) is impossible to express in human terms...though, it is where God's perfect plan of Salvation unfolded.

Hi thankfulldad.

I got as far as the bold.

You need to define what you mean by impossible to express in human terms?

Jesus was human and you and I are human and yet you are not saying his offering is unintelligible.

If so, you do not know the true Gospel.

But maybe you could explain.

Insight

Maybe read the rest of my post...and you will see why as a human without faith given by God; you will not comprehend

[Insight]

What exactly did Jesus offer and why?

He offered Himself for the sins of the world; He knew no sin...yet for our sake become sin...and shed Himself on the cross for our sins.

The cross is where our Lord laid down His life for us; the value in the cross (where Jesus, God in human form) is impossible to express in human terms...though, it is where God's perfect plan of Salvation unfolded.

Hi thankfulldad.

I got as far as the bold.

You need to define what you mean by impossible to express in human terms?

Jesus was human and you and I are human and yet you are not saying his offering is unintelligible.

If so, you do not know the true Gospel.

But maybe you could explain.

Insight

Maybe read the rest of my post...and you will see why as a human without faith given by God; you will not comprehend

Thanks.

You qualified your comment by saying "faith by God" which implies the hope is intelligible. It read like you were saying "it's a mystery

[gospel]

Insight stick the basics, you're needlessly getting yourself all confused

Here again are the

Foundational truths that help clarify your dilemma;

1. No man is perfect...none!

2. No man is righteous....none!

3. No man could fulfill the Law...none!

4. No man could provide Salvation to all men....none!

Consequently

1. Only God is Perfect

2. Only God is Righteous

3. Only God can fulfill His Law

4. Only God can Provide Salvation

Jesus is God!

[Bitter Sweet]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

I just don't agree with your method.

Honesty is always good and wholesome.

My method is to teach and preach a true Christ.

Nothing more and nothing less.

If you chose not to listen that is your prerogative - it's a free will thing that we all have.

I agree, it is our will is free to listen or not, but not so free when we teach the scriptures.

James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

[Thankfulldad]

You qualified your comment by saying "faith by God" which implies the hope is intelligible. It read like you were saying "it's a mystery

[Insight]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

I just don't agree with your method.

Honesty is always good and wholesome.

My method is to teach and preach a true Christ.

Nothing more and nothing less.

If you chose not to listen that is your prerogative - it's a free will thing that we all have.

I agree, it is our free will to listen or not, but not so free when we teach the scriptures.

James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

I am comfortable if you decide not to listen, but do not behave like those Pharisees who murmured against the Lord.

We know their end.

[Insight]

It appears posts are coming thick and fast.

I will be patient.

[cs80918]

I thought the Christian interests forums were for Christians, not for the children of wrath like Insight.

Insight I have clearly show you that Jesus is God through the verse I gave.

Just like I am body, soul and spirit.  God is- God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

We were created in the image of God.  I am 3.  God is 3.

[Insight]

I thought the Christian interests forums were for Christians, not for the children of wrath like Insight.

Insight I have clearly show you that Jesus is God through the verse I gave.

Just like I am body, soul and spirit.  God is- God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

We were created in the image of God.  I am 3.  God is 3.

You have only proven your understanding cannot be supported by Scripture and now in your fleshly sentiments endeavour to marginalise me like the Pharisees did to Christ.

They too could not reason with Christ because of their unbelief.

[gospel]

Insight you are either demon possessed or demon influenced.  The bible clearly tells us that anyone who denies the deity of Jesus is not of God.  

Repent.

Yeah, when a person is unble to argue their position they result to insults.

I have pity of those who know not the Gospel.

Insight

Don't worry, we reap what we sow.

This is true Bitter.

If you sow error you will reap destruction.

Of of the insults come anger and all manner of strife.

I will continue to teach a "true Christ".

Insight

Yes, but do you have ears to hear...or is you humility just a show?

You honestly thought I would bow down? God is the author of my heart, not you.

Maybe Bitter would like to show me the post where I asked her to bow down?

Could it be she is feeling threatened and out of these fleshly feelings her instinct is to attack?

When flesh turns to extremes it often follows by a fall.

This is sin.

I just don't agree with your method.

Honesty is always good and wholesome.

My method is to teach and preach a true Christ.

Nothing more and nothing less.

If you chose not to listen that is your prerogative - it's a free will thing that we all have.

I agree, it is our free will to listen or not, but not so free when we teach the scriptures.

James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

I am comfortable if you decide not to listen, but do not behave like those Pharisees who murmured against the Lord.

We know their end.

Wow its amazing that you cannot even see that you're the one most similar to the Pharisees

Jesus claimed to be God, they mocked Him and said He is not

And they killed Him for saying He was

You agree with them,

They crucified Him for heresy

You're the only one here saying you agree with them ...

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Insight why don't you respond to the verses below?

Also, Insight you are nothing like Jesus and we are not the pharasees.  Your reasoning is of the devil. 

Luke 2:11 NIV
11For to you is born this day in the town of David a Savior, Who is Christ (the Messiah) the Lord!  What does the word Lord mean in this verse?

The Lord. Κυριος, the supreme, eternal Being, the ruler of the heavens and the earth. The Septuagint generally translate יהוה Yehovah by Κυριος. This Hebrew word, from היה hayah, he was, properly points out the eternity and self-existence of the Supreme Being; and if we may rely on the authority of Hesychius, which no scholar will call in question, Κυριος is a proper translation of יהוה Yehovah, as it comes from κυρω, - τυγχανω, I am, I exist.



Aramaic Bible in Plain English Luke 2:11
"For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.