The Thing I Greatly Feared

[Insight]

You must have a concern.What is it?

What Bible program do you use?

[bemark]

Bible gateway/bible explorer 4  etc

what do you use?

[Insight]

Bible gateway/bible explorer 4  etc

what do you use?

Thanks

I use e-sword.

I want you to go and search on Satan in Job and tell me what immediately strikes you as odd?

I will be waiting....

[Sinead]

 

[Insight]

Are you willing to share?

[bemark]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

[Sinead]

I'm waiting to hear what you're going to say about satan.

[Insight]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

No I am still waiting for you to explain to me whats odd?

No trick questions!

[Sinead]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

No I am still waiting for you to explain to me whats odd?

No trick questions!

I don't see anything odd other than God asking satan what he's been up to when He already knew.

[Insight]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

No I am still waiting for you to explain to me whats odd?

No trick questions!

I don't see anything odd other than God asking satan what he's been up to when He already knew.

I thought it would be glaringly obvious?

How many chapters are in the book of Job? and how many of those chapters does the adversary appear in?

[bemark]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

No I am still waiting for you to explain to me whats odd?

No trick questions!

I don't believe you are trying to trick me.Just get to the point.I love Revelation

[Insight]

could you please expand on this so i can get your point or points

We know there is no such thing as an evil supernatural being; only an adversary of Job whose complaint had come up to God.

Why do you think Job greatly feared God?

The answer is in the record!

So you don't believe in the Devil?How about you come out and say what is odd about it.May be a little bit faster that way

No I am still waiting for you to explain to me whats odd?

No trick questions!

I don't believe you are trying to trick me.Just get to the point.I love Revelation

Senead may struggle with this question so here we go.

There are 42 chapters in Job of which the Satan (adversary) appears in the first 3 chapter's and then disappears without further mention of reference.

Some perspective then is in order if one is to better understand Job.

Of those three chapters and the discussion between the adversary and God; who actually bought the evil upon Job?

[Sinead]

Well, I would say satan brought it on him and God allowed it. If God hadn't agreed to it, it wouldn't have happened.

[Insight]

Well, I would say satan brought it on him and God allowed it. If God hadn't agreed to it, it wouldn't have happened.

Yes and most Christians would answer as you have.

So why within the book of Job not once, I will repeat that again, NOT once is the evil applied to some supernatural being?

All knew that God had brought the evil upon Job.

Adversary:

1:11Stretch out Your hand and touch (2:5)

Job:            

1:21 The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away. (2:10)
       
6:4The arrows of the Almighty are within me.
       
9:17He crushes me multiplies my wounds without cause.
     
10:8Your hands made me yet You would destroy me.
     
19:6Know then that God has wronged me.
     
27:2As God lives, who has taken away my justice.

Friends:      

5:17Do not despise the chastening of the Almighty.
       
8:4He has cast your sons away for their transgression.
     
11:6God exacts from you less than your iniquity deserves.

God:            

2:3You incited Me against him, to destroy him without cause.
     
42:11All the adversity that the LORD had brought upon him.

What does this say about your supernatural fairytale monster?

[Sinead]

I really wish satan was just a fairy tale monster. It would be nice.

Only a supernatural being would have been able to do what he did to Job.
There are times when I wish I could inflict someone with a boil, but try as I might i just can't seem to get the hang of it.

[bemark]

Alright so we get down to this

The thing I greatly feared has come upon me ( not God  but the problems of everyday life)

so then God had to take Job through a experience that challenged his way of thinking so then he feared God more than anything else .

So God could come upon him more.

The fear of losing your wife children home etc dosen't compare to the fear of not knowing him more in this life.

[Insight]

Alright so we get down to this

The thing I greatly feared has come upon me ( not God  but the problems of everyday life)

so then God had to take Job through a experience that challenged her way of thinking so then he feared God more than anything else .

So God could come upon him more.

The fear of losing your wife children home etc dosen't compare to the fear of not knowing him more in this life.

No.

Did you notice how quickly Sinead dismissed the Word of God over his preconceived doctrines of devils?

Even if you didn't agree with me the avoidance of the blatant evidence is confronting is it not?

Imagine how the Lord felt when teaching the Pharisees?

Flippant Bible reading and Flippant Bible commentary are so closely related.

Rather frightening.

Insight

[bemark]

Look there is the message through what is in the bible.

That no matter what we go through God is always there and he loves us so much.
And yes we will go through trials and sufferings and we will either say " this far and no more",or we allow him to breakthrough into areas of our life that we thought we had control over.The healer deliverer and restorer of our soul.This is what defines one who overcomes

And he will turn around what the enemy meant for evil for good

[Sinead]

Alright so we get down to this

The thing I greatly feared has come upon me ( not God  but the problems of everyday life)

so then God had to take Job through a experience that challenged her way of thinking so then he feared God more than anything else .

So God could come upon him more.

The fear of losing your wife children home etc dosen't compare to the fear of not knowing him more in this life.

No.

Did you notice how quickly Sinead dismissed the Word of God over his preconceived doctrines of devils?

Even if you didn't agree with me the avoidance of the blatant evidence is confronting is it not?

Imagine how the Lord felt when teaching the Pharisees?

Flippant Bible reading and Flippant Bible commentary are so closely related.

Rather frightening.

Insight

Talking about me are you? tsk tsk.

Also I'm not a he.

I didn't dismiss anything.

[bemark]

Hay thinking about the whole Job thing,  God was doing Job a favor.His wife was just saying curse God and die and his sons where just ratbags


Sure he had to endure pain full boils but wasn't that just for a short period of time?

[Insight]

Well, I would say satan brought it on him and God allowed it. If God hadn't agreed to it, it wouldn't have happened.

Yes and most Christians would answer as you have.

So why within the book of Job not once, I will repeat that again, NOT once is the evil applied to some supernatural being?

All knew that God had brought the evil upon Job.

Adversary:

1:11Stretch out Your hand and touch (2:5)

Job:            

1:21 The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away. (2:10)
       
6:4The arrows of the Almighty are within me.
       
9:17He crushes me multiplies my wounds without cause.
     
10:8Your hands made me yet You would destroy me.
     
19:6Know then that God has wronged me.
     
27:2As God lives, who has taken away my justice.

Friends:      

5:17Do not despise the chastening of the Almighty.
       
8:4He has cast your sons away for their transgression.
     
11:6God exacts from you less than your iniquity deserves.

God:            

2:3You incited Me against him, to destroy him without cause.
     
42:11All the adversity that the LORD had brought upon him.

What does this say about your supernatural fairytale monster?

What does this tell you about your satan?

[Sinead]

My satan?


edit: no need to quote everything in every post

Edit: I was asking insight a question and if my post involves 2 words, so be it. I dont see any forum rules stating that my post cannot be 2 words.

[Insight]

Yes your satan.

If you cannot provide one verse from Job attributing the evil bought upon him then I ask once more what does this inform us about your satan.

("your

[Sinead]

Are you saying that you don't believe satan exists?

[gospel]

So what has been said is

JESUS HAD THE CAPACITY TO SIN

That is exactly the same as saying

JESUS HAD SIN WITHIN HIM

See, here's the crux of what's wrong with your theology here.  Those two things are not at all the same.  Not remotely similar, even.

Jarrod get yourself some scripture pardner!

Human wisdom ain't gonna cut it round these parts

They are EXACTLY the same

JESUS WAS UNABLE TO SIN

because

THERE WAS NO SIN WITHIN HIM

I don't see much use in plying you with the same Scriptures over and over again, just so you can ignore them.  My interest in arguing with you is slim, since you use every logical fallacy and rhetorical trick known to man, ignore any sort of real argument, and just pound the same point over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

My comment was just an observation, to point out to others where the train left the tracks and went hurdling through the bushes.

Jesus was fully man, as well as fully God, regardless of how often you try to deny it.

Jarrod

You haven't plied one scripture correctly yet is the problem. If you cite Hebrews 4:18 and do not understand it's not saying Jesus was tempted in Himself, that's not my fault.

Accusing me of using logical fallacy and rhetorical trickery is a good one, especially since I've requested that you and everyone who disagrees with me ignore my words and actually for once deal with the scriptures I have posted, which up to this point amount to at least 10 or more

Its up to you to negate my understanding of the scriptures by showing me in the scriptures where I'm wrong.

That is what I've been doing the whole thread

If the train left the track it was a long time ago when this humanistic philosophy doctrine was introduced to the Body of Christ cloaked as Truth when it is in fact a lie for very obvious reasons that can proven according to scripture.

YES JESUS WAS FULLY MAN! A newborn Christian even knows that, even an idiot, newly reborn understands that much.

But it is the height of presumption to assume that being FULLY MAN literally means Jesus was a man plagued by the inner turmoil of struggling with Satan and inner demons like the rest of us....

...Accepting that lie is where the train left the tracks, years ago!

Buddha was fully man, he repressed and denied sexual urges, he repressed and denied hatred, he repressed and denied the base instincts of human nature, so what

AN ATHEIST CAN DO THAT!


JESUS ON THE OTHER HAND WAS PURE AND HE HAD

NO BASE INSTINCTS OF THE WORLD,

NO DESIRES BELONGING TO SATAN

NO SIN NATURE

NO BASE INSTINCTS OF HUMAN NATURE WITHIN HIM ...therefore

HE COULD NOT BE CORRUPTED...HE WAS GOD in the form of a man

Not a man dominating over the little bit of God living Him .... like us!

GOD, preeminent within and over the man Jesus within whom He inhabited

THE FULL STATURE OF GOD, ABIDED WITHIN JESUS

The bible says He had the Spirit without measure ( See John 3:34 ) That means UNLIMITED, NO LIMITATIONS!

When you get that you'll be back on the tracks headed for Grand Central Station but until then, unfortunately I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you've unknowingly bought into a humanistic philosophy concerning Our Lord  


 

[gospel]

I agree he had nothing in him

Nor did Adam.

Jesus didn't sin and that's what counts.Why did the devil even attempt to tempt Jesus,  because he must have known him for a long time before hand.

Known his nature.

Why did the devil tempt Jesus? Now finally someone has asked a very good thoughtful question, thanks ever so much!  

There is a pattern to the way Satan operates it can be seen throughout the bible. God Himself is very familiar with the methods Satan employs, so much so He takes account of Satan's ways, calculating them into His Plans

This is how

First of all, Satan knew Jesus in His Glory, As a King, as Royalty.
Satan did not know Jesus in the form of a servant, stripped of His heavenly glory, wearing peasant clothes so to speak,

Secondly

Whatever God says is good, whatever or whoever God speaks well of, whatever or whoever God blesses,
WHOMEVER GOD BRAGS ABOUT AND ESTEEMS AS RIGHTEOUS, SATAN COMES TO DESTROY. There is a lot that can be said on this as to the why this is so but let me cut to the chase.

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good

Once God pronounced this statement and Adam and Eve were situated in the Garden it would only be a matter of time before Satan would show up.

As you know that was Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?

[JohnDB]

As to the other thought brought up by Insight his concept of Satan being an anthropamorphism is not new or completely outside the box. It was a common belief throughout the ages last being popular in the 1960's. The pharase "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" stems from this theological belief. Many years of debate have centered on this discussion.

[gospel]

Hay thinking about the whole Job thing,  God was doing Job a favor.His wife was just saying curse God and die and his sons where just ratbags


Sure he had to endure pain full boils but wasn't that just for a short period of time?

Extreme as that may sound, it still rings true to my OP in that,

What Job greatly feared, was somewhat warranted believing his children were messing up

Satan knew what Job feared and tried to capitalize upon them to prove God wrong,

Believing Job was not as righteous as God proclaimed, Satan used Job's fear as a basis of attacking him

That is why
The timing of the first calamity was not at all coincidental

Occurring while his children were partying

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

Its up to you to negate my understanding of the scriptures by showing me in the scriptures where I'm wrong.

James 1:13 - Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Here is your problem.  You haven't managed to read the bolded words.  God cannot be tempted... with evil.  It does not say that God could not be tempted with things that were not evil.

For instance...
Food
Drink
Libido

None of these things are evil.  All of these things lead to temptation.  

Just ask Eve - the first thing the snake pointed out to her was that something was good to eat.  She didn't have an internal issue with sin or a sin nature or corruption.  She was tempted with something which God proclaimed "it is good."

Do you suppose it is a coincidence that in Jesus temptation, the first thing he was tempted by was bread?  No... the devil was not stupid.  He knew he didn't have a foothold in Jesus heart.  So he picked the only footholds he could find.. the natural need for food being one of them.

The power of satan is not to create things that are evil.  It is to mis-use things that are good, for evil.

It is the height of presumption to assume that being FULLY MAN literally means Jesus was a man plagued by the inner turmoil of struggling with Satan and inner demons like the rest of us....

...Accepting that lie is where the train left the tracks, years ago!

Nobody has ever claimed this.  This argument is a figment of your imagination.  

Or perhaps we should just call it the straw man that it is.  How many times are you going to set up the same argument that NOBODY has made, and then refute it?

Jarrod

[gospel]

James 1:13 - Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Here is your problem.  You haven't managed to read the bolded words.  God cannot be tempted... with evil.  It does not say that God could not be tempted with things that were not evil.

For instance...
Food
Drink
Libido

None of these things are evil.  All of these things lead to temptation.  

Thanks Jarrod, this is what I enjoy, discussing on the basis of scripture.

Methinks without intending to, you are actually helping me make the point I am arguing...God cannot be tempted with evil, none of those things are evil.

Yet those are the things which make Jesus fully man, you can include joy, sorrow the need to sleep, laughter

HOWEVER
As you said
None of these things are evil and because they are not, in and of themselves none of these things are sin.

Yes they can all lead to sin but as I stated in an earlier post, Satan could not lead Jesus into sin for NOTHING IN JESUS belonged to Satan.

Every need we have as humans, as men, was given to us by God.

With every physical need God has given us, he has also given us that which meets the need!

For hunger he has given us food, for thirst He has given us water, for procreation He's given us sex etc, etc

For every need there is a God given an answer!

Jesus even said Your Heavenly knows your needs...HE GAVE THEM

Enter Satan...

Satan see's our needs as weaknesses through which he can control and manipulate us through his own devices ( see 1 John 2:16 ) lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life

In order for Satan's devices to work, a person has to be subject to them, blind to them, conformed to them, unwary of them, non vigilant toward them, unwise of them, undiscerning of them....

and if you've noticed, yes there's a lot of scriptural references in that one statement.

Just ask Eve - the first thing the snake pointed out to her was that something was good to eat.  She didn't have an internal issue with sin or a sin nature or corruption.  She was tempted with something which God proclaimed "it is good."

What you're missing here is Satan's device using the lust of the flesh to get her to OBEY HIS VOICE, ignoring what God has said.

Satan's whole mission is to get us to obey His Voice and ignore what God has said. That is why Jesus said in John 10, my sheep hear my voice and to another they will not listen

Do you suppose it is a coincidence that in Jesus temptation, the first thing he was tempted by was bread?  No... the devil was not stupid.  He knew he didn't have a foothold in Jesus heart.  So he picked the only footholds he could find.. the natural need for food being one of them.

Exactly but what Satan could not do was use hunger as a means to deceive Jesus into obeying him.

He wanted Jesus to obey his voice, the way Adam did

Jesus came to restore the Fall to reverse what Adam did...that was His Mission

That is why
Jesus would never ever in a million years obey Satan, Jesus could not obey Satan, its impossible!

Jesus is King of one Kingdom, satan is the ruler of another bogus kingdom

that is why Jesus said Satan get behind me.

That means Satan you are to follow me, I don't follow you, I lead you, you don't lead me

The power of satan is not to create things that are evil.  It is to mis-use things that are good, for evil.

Exactly but the evil is
HEEDING HIS VOICE, IGNORING WHAT GOD HAS SAID USING OUR NEEDS AS A MEANS OF EMPLOYING HIS DECEPTION

In fact Satan cannot create, he can only take the good things God created and pervert them,

He perverts Truth, the result is a lie
He perverts Life, the result is death
He perverts Health, the result is sickness
He perverts  Peace, the result is confusion
He perverts sex, the result is sexual perversion
He perverts our imagination, the result is fantasy

etc, etc etc

This is how Satan gets worship, His whole goal is to get worship, The entire reason he was kicked out of heaven was because he wanted to be worshiped as god. When he gets people to obey him, by default they are giving him worship. Satan does not care how he gets it...it could be through fame, money, riches, pride, sex, even religion or anything at all, it doesn't really matter what it is, he just wants man to obey him and not God Almighty

Jesus would never ever obey Satan...NEVER!

Quote from: gospel on Today at 11:27:05 AM
It is the height of presumption to assume that being FULLY MAN literally means Jesus was a man plagued by the inner turmoil of struggling with Satan and inner demons like the rest of us....

...Accepting that lie is where the train left the tracks, years ago!
Nobody has ever claimed this.  This argument is a figment of your imagination.  

Or perhaps we should just call it the straw man that it is.  How many times are you going to set up the same argument that NOBODY has made, and then refute it?

You may not thing you are but you are making that argument unwittingly and unknowingly by saying two different things at the same time

Here's how

You guys said Jesus is sinless because He correctly chose not to sin

Yet you say He could have sinned because He was fully man

Furthermore

Some of you have said if Jesus couldn't have chose wrongly what good was the test

Now
Here's what I am saying

To say Jesus could have sinned is to say sin was within Him, waiting for an opportunity

To say Jesus could have obeyed Satan is the same thing as saying God could have obeyed Satan

To say Jesus could have chosen evil is to say evil was present with Him, it is to say that something that belonged to Satan was within Jesus' heart

What I have been consistently presenting is scores of scripture that refute those wrong assertions

I am saying it was impossible for Jesus to sin first and foremost because it was impossible for Him to fail

Man's Redemption was a foregone conclusion from the foundation of the world, an established Truth and Fact of God, according to His Perfect Plan brought about through The coming of His Perfect Savior!

He came as the Lamb of God, Pure, Flawless, Perfect, Righteous, The Holy One of God, Perfect in All of His Ways with no possibility of failure and only one possible outcome, God's Sovereign Will!

Then someone comes along and presents Philippians 2:6  trying to assert Jesus emptied Himself of Deity.

Which is totally incorrect and NOT TRUE according to scripture!

It is a total falsehood, which I went into great detail to prove and cited the link below to back me up

Jesus came as God, He proved Himself as God

Raising the dead, giving sight to the blind, healing the sick, walking on water, etc, etc etc

None of which would be possible if He had emptied Himself

I correctly explained he made Himself of no reputation is the correct rendering of that verse

In other words Jesus taking on flesh is akin to a King donning the garments of a peasant, coming to dwell among His subjects in the appearance of a mere man, YET the King, in Jesus case YET FULLY GOD!

http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/made-himself-of-no-reputation-or-emptied-himself-in-philippians-27

Manna to you for you response, I look forward to more of that nature

Thanks!

[Insight]

As to the other thought brought up by Insight his concept of Satan being an anthropamorphism is not new or completely outside the box. It was a common belief throughout the ages last being popular in the 1960's. The pharase "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" stems from this theological belief. Many years of debate have centered on this discussion.

Over the years I have had the pleasure of discussing Job in great detail with those who hold to an evil demonic despot.  The arguments for such a being in Job are baseless and without Scriptural support. 

It has always puzzled me why the adversary in Job is not referred to in the New Testament, actually all the wrested passages in Isa and Ezek likewise find no place in the New Testament record. 

I was hoping one here would enter Job with me, but it seems few are willing to do so.  This is not said to imply a challenge John, rather show the shallow depth of knowledge on such an important teaching as the true nature of the adversary in Job.

Insight

[Insight]

Are you saying that you don't believe satan exists?

Satan exists but like many subjects in the Bible one must dig a lot to discover truth.  Speaking at the Word as many here do will not reveal this hidden knowledge.

Very few are willing to be lead into truth...for why bother if we know everything!

Insight

[gospel]

As to the other thought brought up by Insight his concept of Satan being an anthropamorphism is not new or completely outside the box. It was a common belief throughout the ages last being popular in the 1960's. The pharase "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" stems from this theological belief. Many years of debate have centered on this discussion.

Over the years I have had the pleasure of discussing Job in great detail with those who hold to an evil demonic despot.  The arguments for such a being in Job are baseless and without Scriptural support. 

It has always puzzled me why the adversary in Job is not referred to in the New Testament, actually all the wrested passages in Isa and Ezek likewise find no place in the New Testament record. 

I was hoping one here would enter Job with me, but it seems few are willing to do so.  This is not said to imply a challenge John, rather show the shallow depth of knowledge on such an important teaching as the true nature of the adversary in Job.

Insight

Personally I think you have over-thought the topic and if there is some deep hidden mystery concerning Satan that you want to share with us why not start a new thread and establish your premise.

Hopefully and prayerfully it does not bear any resemblance to Mormon doctrine

Looking forward to your new thread meanwhile

Satan is the same adversary spoken of in Job 1,
Ezekiel 28:11-19,
Isaiah 14:12-17,
Luke 4,
Matthew 4,
John 13:27, Luke 22:3, 1 Peter 5:7,8 , James 4:7, Ephesians 6 and Revelations 12:10 and the list goes on 

[Thankfulldad]

Are you saying that you don't believe satan exists?

Satan exists but like many subjects in the Bible one must dig a lot to discover truth.  Speaking at the Word as many here do will not reveal this hidden knowledge.

Very few are willing to be lead into truth...for why bother if we know everything!

Insight

What hidden knowledge?  Is it only hidden in your mind?

[Insight]

As to the other thought brought up by Insight his concept of Satan being an anthropamorphism is not new or completely outside the box. It was a common belief throughout the ages last being popular in the 1960's. The pharase "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" stems from this theological belief. Many years of debate have centered on this discussion.

Over the years I have had the pleasure of discussing Job in great detail with those who hold to an evil demonic despot.  The arguments for such a being in Job are baseless and without Scriptural support. 

It has always puzzled me why the adversary in Job is not referred to in the New Testament, actually all the wrested passages in Isa and Ezek likewise find no place in the New Testament record. 

I was hoping one here would enter Job with me, but it seems few are willing to do so.  This is not said to imply a challenge John, rather show the shallow depth of knowledge on such an important teaching as the true nature of the adversary in Job.

Insight

Personally I think you have over-thought the topic and if there is some deep hidden mystery concerning Satan that you want to share with us why not start a new thread and establish your premise.

Hopefully and prayerfully it does not bear any resemblance to Mormon doctrine

Looking forward to your new thread meanwhile

Satan is the same adversary spoken of in Job 1,
Ezekiel 28:11-19,
Isaiah 14:12-17,
Luke 4,
Matthew 4,
John 13:27, Luke 22:3, 1 Peter 5:7,8 , James 4:7, Ephesians 6 and Revelations 12:10 and the list goes on 

Gospel,

So the arch enemy of all mankind is confined to 3 chapters in Job, one chapter Ezek and Isa?

You have not thought this through at all...though you will imply you have.

Insight