Gay Marriage

[TomMoney]

The other day I was arguing with a cousin on the subject of gay marriage and whether or not it should be LEGAL, and the following set of logical steps were brought up, and to be honest i couldn't think of any real repute, was wondering what you guys think.

Premise: Gay marriage should be illegal because the bible says it is wrong (I don't really believe there are any other valid reasons that I've seen)

Observation: The bible says that being in a religion other than Christianity (i.e. being a Muslim) is wrong (with arguably one or two exceptions).

Conclusion: Being a Muslim should be illegal, along with swearing, divorce, sex before marriage, lying, coveting and disrespecting your parents (ect).

Obviously (I think) the state don't have the right to make any of these things illegal.

Thoughts?

[DigitalAttorney]

The other day I was arguing with a cousin on the subject of gay marriage and whether or not it should be LEGAL, and the following set of logical steps were brought up, and to be honest i couldn't think of any real repute, was wondering what you guys think.

Premise: Gay marriage should be illegal because the bible says it is wrong (I don't really believe there are any other valid reasons that I've seen)

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

The Word of God not only says it is wrong, it tells you that people that practice such will not inherit salvation.

You're at a crossroad in life it seems. Follow the way of the world, or follow the way of God and make your decision based on your selection.

Observation: The bible says that being in a religion other than Christianity (i.e. being a Muslim) is wrong (with arguably one or two exceptions).

Conclusion: Being a Muslim should be illegal, along with swearing, divorce, sex before marriage, lying, coveting and disrespecting your parents (ect).

Obviously (I think) the state don't have the right to make any of these things illegal.

As for following anything or anyone, accept Christ and the Apostles he commissioned:

‎(James 4:4) Adulterers (3432) and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

"Adulterers " - 3432 μοιχός [moichos /moy·khos/] n m. Perhaps a primary word; TDNT 4:729; TDNTA 605; GK 3659; Four occurrences; AV translates as "adulterer

[TomMoney]

Mmmmmmk, well thx, i'm sure your meant well and are not just trolling me, but i'm looking for a debate deal here rather than advice on something. I will say this though:

The Word of God not only says it is wrong, it tells you that people that practice such will not inherit salvation.

You're at a crossroad in life it seems. Follow the way of the world, or follow the way of God and make your decision based on your selection.

As for following anything or anyone, accept Christ and the Apostles he commissioned:

‎(James 4:4) Adulterers (3432) and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

If one claims to have faith in Jesus Christ, such a one can not also have faith in astrology, Buddah, Muhammad, etc.

1. I don't think god is going to deny anyone into his kingdom for doing anything other than something "wrong".

2. I would honestly say that disusing the legalistics of gay marriage is not really going to spurn a cross roads in my life

3. I don't think that's what that verse means at all. I'm pretty such i can "have faith" that the stars are going to tell me that i'm going to have a strange encounter tomorrow (i don't for the record) and also have faith that Jesus Christ is my lord and savior at the same time.

[DigitalAttorney]

Mmmmmmk, well thx, i'm sure your meant well and are not just trolling me, but i'm looking for a debate deal here rather than advice on something. I will say this though:

1. I don't think god is going to deny anyone into his kingdom for doing anything other than something "wrong".

You clearly do not know the Word.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

People that practice such things, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Period.

[Bitter Sweet]

People that practice such things, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Period.

It doesn't matter if they don't inherit the kingdom, everything from God is good and that being free will first and foremost. Free will is our gift from God. Gay people can't live forever anyway, they can't produce offspring together.

Stopping someone from exercising their gift of free will from God I think is bad.

[DigitalAttorney]

People that practice such things, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Period.

It doesn't matter if they don't inherit the kingdom

Well then end of discussion. I'm a Christian and it matters to me.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Welcome to "Christian Forums".

[Bitter Sweet]

People that practice such things, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Period.

It doesn't matter if they don't inherit the kingdom

Well then end of discussion. I'm a Christian and it matters to me.

The bible says they won't inherit the kingdom, that's a done deal. I believe the bible therefore it matters not to me what gay people do in the meantime. They aren't getting in the kingdom.

Why does something that you have no control over matter to you? You can't change what God does. Do you want them to enter the kingdom? I'm a little confused by what matters to you about the fact that God won't let them inherit the kingdom?

[DigitalAttorney]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Just look back to the beginning of this conversation and you'll see where I stand.

God bless,
Jon-Paul

[Bitter Sweet]

I did read it and I am under the impression that you are against Gay marriage, correct?

Then don't do it.

What other people do, should not matter to us. God gives us free will, it is not good to take what God has given to everyone away from anyone.

What makes it matter, because you are a Christian? Christians believe Gods word is valid, if he says something, I know he means it therefore it is of no concern to me what other people do. It matters not what others do.

So why does it matter to you?

[DigitalAttorney]

I did read it and I am under the impression that you are against Gay marriage, correct?

Then don't do it.

I stand with God my friend. If homosexuality is an abomination to God, then it is an abomination to me.

If you don't like that, then perhaps you've come to the only true God, with the wrong ideas in mind.

Marraige is for a man and a woman:

(Mark 10:2-9) And there came unto him Pharisees, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. But Jesus said unto them, For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. But from the beginning of the creation, Male and female made he them. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the twain shall become one flesh: so that they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Homosexuality is not of God, otherwise it would be approved of by God. There are many people not led by the Spirit of God. And such will have their end. Not in the kingdom of God with those that have overcome.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Why? Because it is an abomination to God, and therefore an abomination to me.

[Bitter Sweet]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage?

God gives us free will, free will is good. Everything from God is good. You are making something God has given freely to everyone as a bad thing. We can't force people to believe in God, it is their choice not to and that's OK with God because he has other plans for them which shouldn't matter to us because we are not a part of it.

HOWEVER, attempting to take away what God has given to everyone may not be a good thing in God's eyes either. Just some food for thought.

[Sinead]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage?

God gives us free will, free will is good. Everything from God is good. You are making something God has given freely to everyone as a bad thing. We can't force people to believe in God, it is their choice not to and that's OK with God because he has other plans for them which shouldn't matter to us because we are not a part of it.

HOWEVER, attempting to take away what God has given to everyone may not be a good thing in God's eyes either. Just some food for thought.

So we shouldnt put murderers in jail then? It shouldn't be illegal?

[Sinead]

DigitalAttorney Please delete your msgs in your inbox it says its full. I have a few questions if you dont mind :)

[DigitalAttorney]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

[Sinead]

I tried to msg you back but it says your inbox is full again - try deleting all messages once again :)

[Merryone]

People that practice such things, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Period.

It doesn't matter if they don't inherit the kingdom, everything from God is good and that being free will first and foremost. Free will is our gift from God. Gay people can't live forever anyway, they can't produce offspring together.

Stopping someone from exercising their gift of free will from God I think is bad.

Why doesn't it matter that people by the millions are going to be condemned to hellfire forever? Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but God tells us we must love people and deliver the message of hope in Jesus Christ, so that they will turn away from their sin! If you don't care, then God accounts that as hatred toward others.

There is nothing good in the practice of sin. Homosexuality isn't from him.

God wants people to turn to him for salvation and to lay down their will to his will, which is so much better.

[Bitter Sweet]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I agree with you 100%, I don't know where you see any disagreement except that fact that I say everything from God is good, free will being the first gift he gave us.

The fact remains, when we go against someones will, such as murdering them or stopping someone from getting married (whether gay or straight), we are hurting others by going against their will. We are in essence forcing our own will on them and that shouldn't be. It is a hate crime.

Gay people are both in agreement of the marriage to each other, they are not hurting anyone but themselves and that is within their own consent. When we try to stop them from this, that goes against their will and puts us on the side of forcing something against their will because it is non consensual between us and them.

If you want to live under a system that will eradicate homosexuality entirely (not trusting God to do it alone), I suggest you look into Islam.

[Merryone]

HOWEVER, attempting to take away what God has given to everyone may not be a good thing in God's eyes either. Just some food for thought.

What is good about fornication and homosexuality? Homosexuals have no right to marriage---even though some misguided and weak-willed government hacks say they do. No one is trying to squelch someone's precious will. We are trying to uphold the goodness of God for people's sake.

[DigitalAttorney]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I suggest you look into Islam.

Actually I was thinking the same for you. If you don't like the fact that those that practice homosexuality are disapproved of by God, then maybe the false Allah is who you are made for. I don't know, but what I do know is that marraige is a union between man and woman, according to my Bible.

(Mat 19:4-6) He answered them, "Haven't you read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female' and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

I repeat if you support sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery,  homosexuality, stealing,  drunkenness, and the slanderering of individuals then you support sin.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you support the sin in their sinning, then I nor God support you.

[Bitter Sweet]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I suggest you look into Islam.

Actually I was thinking the same for you. If you don't like the fact that those that practice homosexuality are disapproved of by God, then maybe the false Allah is who you are made for. I don't know, but what I do know is that marraige is a union between man and woman, according to my Bible.

(Mat 19:4-6) He answered them, "Haven't you read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female' and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

I repeat if you support sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery,  homosexuality, stealing,  drunkenness, and the slanderering of individuals then you support sin.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you support the sin in their sinning, then I nor God support you.

Islam doesn't allow any gay marriage. I don't want to be a part of a system that controls the will of other people.

Even God can't control the will for gay people to be gay, that's why they don't inherit the kingdom, that's the only part he controls, who get's in and who stays out.

Only Islam controls the will of people, they place themselves above God. And so does everyone else that tries to control another person's will. 

[Merryone]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I suggest you look into Islam.

Actually I was thinking the same for you. If you don't like the fact that those that practice homosexuality are disapproved of by God, then maybe the false Allah is who you are made for. I don't know, but what I do know is that marraige is a union between man and woman, according to my Bible.

(Mat 19:4-6) He answered them, "Haven't you read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female' and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

I repeat if you support sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery,  homosexuality, stealing,  drunkenness, and the slanderering of individuals then you support sin.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you support the sin in their sinning, then I nor God support you.

Islam doesn't allow any gay marriage. I don't want to be a part of a system that controls the will of other people.

Even God can't control the will for gay people to be gay, that's why they don't inherit the kingdom, that's the only part he controls, who get's in and who stays out.

Only Islam controls the will of people, they place themselves above God. And so does everyone else that tries to control another person's will. 

No one is trying to control anyone's will. That is absurd, BS.

[DigitalAttorney]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I suggest you look into Islam.

Actually I was thinking the same for you. If you don't like the fact that those that practice homosexuality are disapproved of by God, then maybe the false Allah is who you are made for. I don't know, but what I do know is that marraige is a union between man and woman, according to my Bible.

(Mat 19:4-6) He answered them, "Haven't you read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female' and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

I repeat if you support sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery,  homosexuality, stealing,  drunkenness, and the slanderering of individuals then you support sin.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you support the sin in their sinning, then I nor God support you.

Even God can't control the will for gay people to be gay, that's why they don't inherit the kingdom

God is sovereign my friend. Obedience and disobedience are choices. There is your free will. To obey or disobey.

When it says in 1 Co 6:9-10 that homosexuals do not inherit the kingdom, that should tell you the obvious.

(Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

They receive that.

Now you go on and support gays in their ways and you even marry them if you like, and see where your disbelief gets you, but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by honoring his word.

[MeMyself]

God is sovereign my friend. Obedience and disobedience are choices. There is your free will. To obey or disobey.

When it says in 1 Co 6:9-10 that homosexuals do not inherit the kingdom, that should tell you the obvious.

(Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

They receive that.

Now you go on and support gays in their ways and you even marry them if you like, and see where your disbelief gets you, but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by honoring his word.

Exactly...we say they should not be given our blessing to marry, because their sexual behavior is sin and spelled out as such in the word.  The argument of taking away their free will is absurd.  It is a manipulation to attempt to shame opponents into silence on the subject.  No one CAN take away their will...we can't take away their desire to fornicate with the same gender, but we can say we protect marriage to be between ONE man and ONE woman.

[Bitter Sweet]

I believe you but do you want someone to take away your free will of trying to stop gay marriage? God gives us free will, free will is good.

You really have no idea of the depravity you speak, do you?

God gives you the Word for you to know what is approved of. All contradictory to it is sin:

‎(Romans 6:14 ... 2 Peter 2:19]  For sin shall not be your master ... For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

If you choose to sin (go against the Word) or support it in such a way as to turn a blind eye to it, then that is your choice. As a Christian though, my stance is firm and with the Word of God when I say homosexuality is abhorrent to God and thus who practice it.

I suggest you look into Islam.

Actually I was thinking the same for you. If you don't like the fact that those that practice homosexuality are disapproved of by God, then maybe the false Allah is who you are made for. I don't know, but what I do know is that marraige is a union between man and woman, according to my Bible.

(Mat 19:4-6) He answered them, "Haven't you read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female' and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

I repeat if you support sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery,  homosexuality, stealing,  drunkenness, and the slanderering of individuals then you support sin.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you support the sin in their sinning, then I nor God support you.

Even God can't control the will for gay people to be gay, that's why they don't inherit the kingdom

God is sovereign my friend. Obedience and disobedience are choices. There is your free will. To obey or disobey.

When it says in 1 Co 6:9-10 that homosexuals do not inherit the kingdom, that should tell you the obvious.

(Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

They receive that.

Now you go on and support gays in their ways and you even marry them if you like, and see where your disbelief gets you, but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by honoring his word.

I don't have any gay friends, I don't work along side them and I don't associate with them either. I also don't pretend to do God's job, what he says goes, there are no if's and's or but's about it. I cannot change what God has already done by not allowing them into the kingdom. It's a pointless battle of us against them, we already won.  

[Merryone]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

[Bitter Sweet]

God is sovereign my friend. Obedience and disobedience are choices. There is your free will. To obey or disobey.

When it says in 1 Co 6:9-10 that homosexuals do not inherit the kingdom, that should tell you the obvious.

(Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

They receive that.

Now you go on and support gays in their ways and you even marry them if you like, and see where your disbelief gets you, but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by honoring his word.

but we can say we protect marriage to be between ONE man and ONE woman.

Islam already does that, do you really want to be under that kind of a system? What about people that don't believe in God, should we just exterminate them along with all the other infidels? The adulterers? There are other sins that are being ignored that Islam does not ignore.

All it takes is one step down for it to all go downhill. I don't think America should take that step but unfortunately it already has.

[Bitter Sweet]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

[Merryone]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

It certainly is your job if you are a Christian. If you're not, it is my job to help you find salvation in Jesus Christ.


And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:15

Your scripture posted is talking about the Holy Ghost and his job to convict people of their sin, but if you are not communicating the gospel, then you hinder his work in and through you.

[chosenone]

I live in the UK where there is talk that the govt will make same sex marriages legal. I hope that pray that it never happens. I also hope and pray that no church leader will ever take part in marrying any same sex couples.
We have a close friend who is living with another man. We love them and pray for them. God is working in them and the other man is coming to Christ. We both believe that God will convict them both of the seriousness of what they are doing. They are lovely guys and they will do the right thing in the end I am sure of that.

[Bitter Sweet]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:15

I am, on the internet, www. Don't take God's gift of free will away from people like Islam.  

[chosenone]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

Of course its our job. God uses us to lead others to Him, and to pray for them. We are His body on earth.

[MeMyself]

God is sovereign my friend. Obedience and disobedience are choices. There is your free will. To obey or disobey.

When it says in 1 Co 6:9-10 that homosexuals do not inherit the kingdom, that should tell you the obvious.

(Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

They receive that.

Now you go on and support gays in their ways and you even marry them if you like, and see where your disbelief gets you, but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by honoring his word.

but we can say we protect marriage to be between ONE man and ONE woman.

Islam already does that, do you really want to be under that kind of a system? What about people that don't believe in God, should we just exterminate them along with all the other infidels? The adulterers? There are other sins that are being ignored that Islam does not ignore.

All it takes is one step down for it to all go downhill. I don't think America should take that step but unfortunately it already has.

And I think America is one step away from God growing sick and tired of us flying our fist in His face, applauding and giving sin our blessing and showing no fear of Him at all.

As for me, I will be like Joshua who stood up and said "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.

[MeMyself]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

Oh please!   Cop out much?  Jesus TOLD us to GO and make disciples of all nations!  He WANTS us to share Him with others.

[Bitter Sweet]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

Oh please!   Cop out much?  Jesus TOLD us to GO and make disciples of all nations!  He WANTS us to share Him with others.

Ok, what are you doing about preventing adulterers from remarrying (some people believe even looking at porn is adultery)? It's on the list of people that won't inherit the kingdom.

Why only pick on gay marriage, there is a bunch of others on the list that are blatantly being ignored.

Why doesn't America put a law into effect that adulterers are not allowed to remarry? They aren't gay people but heterosexual. Does that make it ok? NO.

You can't condemn just one without condemning them all. We can't pick and choose which laws God wants us to uphold.

[Merryone]

BS:

We already won? Have you actually tried to lead a homosexual to the Lord?

Not my job.

John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:15

I am, on the internet, www. Don't take God's gift of free will away from people like Islam.  

Really? What about in real life.com??