The Trinity, Fact or Fiction?

[howard]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

[biblecat]

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

[Lively Stone]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

John 4:24 (ASV)
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

[Lively Stone]

THE HOLY SPIRIT

Attributes: Who Is He?

He possesses omniscience (1 Cor. 2:11,12)
He possess omnipresence (Ps. 139:7)
He possesses omnipotence (Job 33:4)

He is Truth (1 John 5:6)

He gives life (Luke 11:13)

He possesses creative wisdom (Is. 40:13)
He possesses all the attributes of deity: He is God (Acts 5:3,4)

Record: What He Has Done
In the Old Testament

He was active at creation (Gen. 1:2)
He was the bestower of supernatural giftedness (Gen. 31:38)
He was the giver of creativity (Ex. 31:2-5)
He was the source of power (Judg. 3:9, 10)
He inspired prophecy (1 Sam. 19:20, 23)
He was the mediator of God's message (Mic. 3:8)

In the New Testament:

He was part of the Incarnation (Luke 1:35)
He declared the truth about Christ (John 16:13,14)
He endowed believers with power for witnessing (Acts 1:8)
He poured out God's love (Rom. 5:5)
He interceded (Rom. 8:26)

He was the inspiration for the writing of the Holy Scripture (2 Tim.3:16, 2 Pet. 1:21)
He distributed giftedness for ministry (1 Cor.12:4-11)
He empowered believers with characteristics for godly living (Gal. 5:22, 23)
He Strengthened believers within (Eph. 3:16)

Work: What He Will Do

He will guide the believer (Acts 8:29 ; Rom. 8:14)
He will give assurance of salvation (Rom. 8:14-17)
He will be the believer's teacher (1 John 2:27)
He will intercede (Rom. 8:26)
He will comfort (John 14:16)
He will sanctify (2 Thes. 2:13)
He will accomplish regeneration (John 3:6)
He will make you aware of sin (John 16:8)
He will convince you of the truth of the gospel (John 16:8, 13, 14)
He will empower you to witness (Acts 1:8;4:31)
He will destroy the power of sin in your life (Rom. 8:2-6)
He will lead and even control your life (Rom. 8:14;Gal. 5:16, 25)
He will distribuite gifts to be used in the kingdom (1 Cor. 12:14-11

The Holy Spirit was promised as a gift to believers, part of His ministry is to seal believers at the moment they place saving faith in Christ. The term "seal" includes certain truths: He is a provision of security, a mark of ownership, and a sign of approval. Indeed, the Holy Spirit's presence in believers' lives is the final evidence, both to themselves and to others, of the truth of what each has believed. Further, He is the down payment, providing both a foretaste of the believer's spiritual inheritance and a legal claim to the fullness of that inheritance in the future.

Where is he called God?

He is God. God is not a name. It is who He is.

Please check out John 4:24 as well, which proves that God is also the Spirit.

[Lively Stone]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

All three are One God.

[fish153]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

First you say the Bible doesn't say God is a Spirit--that it's not written there.  Now you are thanking me for showing you where it IS written.  The plain fact is that God has revealed Himself as ONE God in three persons.  God is called "The God of all comfort"---and the Holy Spirit it called the "comforter".  Why you would want to continue to argue that God is two instead of three persons is beyond me--when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise.

[howard]

Holy Spirit is God:

Acts 5:3-4
3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, why have you let Satan fill your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. 4 The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was also yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God!

[howard]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

First you say the Bible doesn't say God is a Spirit--that it's not written there.  Now you are thanking me for showing you where it IS written.  The plain fact is that God has revealed Himself as ONE God in three persons.  God is called "The God of all comfort"---and the Holy Spirit it called the "comforter".  Why you would want to continue to argue that God is two instead of three persons is beyond me--when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise.

God the Father
God th Son

Proverbs 30:4 (KJV)
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

I know what I posted and I did it for a reason

Is there one God ?
Is it 4 Gods?

Your theory is wrong

[Lively Stone]

"The reason for that is unbelief."

Trinity is not there

He certainly isn't present in those who deny Him.

[MeMyself]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

First you say the Bible doesn't say God is a Spirit--that it's not written there.  Now you are thanking me for showing you where it IS written.  The plain fact is that God has revealed Himself as ONE God in three persons.  God is called "The God of all comfort"---and the Holy Spirit it called the "comforter".  Why you would want to continue to argue that God is two instead of three persons is beyond me--when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise.

God the Father
God th Son

Proverbs 30:4 (KJV)
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

I know what I posted and I did it for a reason

Is there one God ?
Is it 4 Gods?

Your theory is wrong

SOMEbody's theory is....

whispered (Its not Fish's)

[Lively Stone]

Holy Spirit is God:

Acts 5:3-4
3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, why have you let Satan fill your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. 4 The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was also yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God!

[howard]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

All three are One God.

This sounds like Unitarianism?

It is impossible for all 3 to be one God

Here is a example

Luke 1:30-32 (KJV)
And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. [31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. [32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Jesus shall be called the son of the highest

This implies that Jesus the son has a father

The highest must be the Father who is God

Paul confirms that the Father is God

2 Timothy 1:2 (KJV)
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Now lets read where Jesus the son is called God

John 20:29 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Thomas confirms Jesus is God
We have 2 where are you getting the one from

[Lively Stone]

"The Spirit speaks expressly that in the last days..."  The Spirit can speak. He can also be grieved, insulted, quenched, blasphemed, etc.  Those things can only happen to a Person.  God is a Trinity--One God in three persons---and the Holy Spirit is part of that Trinity.  That is Christian doctrine---and it is true doctrine.

Where in the bible does it say God is a spirit?

Thats not written

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". (John 4:24)

Thank you

Now that you have establish God is a spirit

Where is it written that 3 person ?

My point is if we use your belief we have one spirit going inside 3 persons

So the trinity consists of  1 god and 3 persons

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

All three are One God.

This sounds like Unitarianism?

It is impossible for all 3 to be one God

Here is a example

Luke 1:30-32 (KJV)
And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. [31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. [32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Jesus shall be called the son of the highest

This implies that Jesus the son has a father

The highest must be the Father who is God

Paul confirms that the Father is God

2 Timothy 1:2 (KJV)
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Now lets read where Jesus the son is called God

John 20:29 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Thomas confirms Jesus is God
We have 2 where are you getting the one from

God is Three in One. It isn't Unitarianism. It is God.

[fish153]

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  And A VOICE FROM HEAVEN said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

[howard]

Holy Spirit is God:

Acts 5:3-4
3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, why have you let Satan fill your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. 4 The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was also yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God!

[Lively Stone]

Holy Spirit is God:

Acts 5:3-4
3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, why have you let Satan fill your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. 4 The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was also yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God!

[howard]

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  And A VOICE FROM HEAVEN said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

[Lively Stone]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

[biblecat]

That was really nice not to mention very true... Thank you Mr. Lively Stone.

[fish153]

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  And A VOICE FROM HEAVEN said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

[Man_Of_Honor]

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  And A VOICE FROM HEAVEN said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

[howard]

Holy Spirit is God:

Acts 5:3-4
3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, why have you let Satan fill your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. 4 The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was also yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God!

[howard]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

Its unrelated to you for a reason

Read what it says and compare it to the other apostles

If you would take note  you would notice that this statement is said before Jesus was baptized .

He told us what was  going to happen and it happened

Jesus said angels do when I happened what descended?


All it take s is a little belief in Jesus words.

[FireSword]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

They can still have power through the spirit of Christ, but missing the holy spirit they would miss a dimension of power by denying one member of the God head.

[howard]

"As soon as JESUS was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove and alighting on him.  And A VOICE FROM HEAVEN said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.

[howard]

Here is a spirit from God
If we use you all theory then this guy is the HS
But we will have a problem because he is a evil spirit from God

1 Samuel 16:15-16 (KJV)
And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. [16] Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

This spirit be it evil come from God

1 Samuel 16:23 (KJV)
And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

1 Samuel 18:10 (KJV)
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.

1 Samuel 19:9 (KJV)
And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

A spirit from God

We know of a Holy spirit
We know of a evil spirit

From God

[howard]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

They can still have power through the spirit of Christ, but missing the holy spirit they would miss a dimension of power by denying one member of the God head.

Are you making this stuff up?

Where is this written?

[Lively Stone]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

Its unrelated to you for a reason

Read what it says and compare it to the other apostles

If you would take note  you would notice that this statement is said before Jesus was baptized .

He told us what was  going to happen and it happened

Jesus said angels do when I happened what descended?


All it take s is a little belief in Jesus words.

It is unrelated.

[Lively Stone]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

They can still have power through the spirit of Christ, but missing the holy spirit they would miss a dimension of power by denying one member of the God head.

No. The Spirit of Christ is Holy Spirit. Denying Holy Spirit is denying God---they would be merely nominal Christians...in name only.

[howard]

The history books tells us this about the trinity doctrine

Here is a quote from the Grolier encyclopedia.

Difficulties soon emerged in formulating and understanding this threefold "economy." Divergent views led early to numerous Trinitarian controversies such as those over subordinationism (the teaching that the Son is subordinate to the Father and the Holy Spirit to both; see Arianism) and modalism (the view that the three modes are transitory; see Monarchianism and Sabellianism).

The Councils of Nicaea (325) and Constantinople (381) outlined the dogma of the Trinity in express rejection of these teachings.


The Nicene, or Niceno-Constantinopolitan, creed has defined through the ages, for both Catholic (Roman and Orthodox) and Reformation (Lutheran, Reformed, and Anglican) churches, the basic doctrine of the Trinity. Catholic and Protestant theology has sought in various ways to make the doctrine stated at Nicaea comprehensible.

Saint Augustine's lucid analogies of the divine Trinity in our experience of ourselves as memory, understanding, and will, and in our experience of our own existence as characterized by being, truth, and love, have been the point of departure for most subsequent study.

In the religious thought of the Enlightenment (17th and 18th centuries), there was a strong reaction against Trinitarianism as an "orthodox" mystery without basis in either experience or reason this was the view of Unitarianism and deism and of much 19th-century liberal theology.

The great figures of 20th-century theology Karl Barth, Paul Tillich, and, most recently, Karl Rahner despite their diversity of outlook, have again found the Trinity a central, in fact an unavoidable, structure for expressing the Christian understanding of God. (End of quote)

The history books is telling us when this doctrine was formulated

[MeMyself]

Here is a spirit from God
If we use you all theory then this guy is the HS
But we will have a problem because he is a evil spirit from God

1 Samuel 16:15-16 (KJV)
And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. [16] Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

This spirit be it evil come from God

1 Samuel 16:23 (KJV)
And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

1 Samuel 18:10 (KJV)
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.

1 Samuel 19:9 (KJV)
And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

A spirit from God

We know of a Holy spirit
We know of a evil spirit

From God

God allowed an evil spirit, but God has nothing to with evil and if you are comparing the Holy Spirit to an evil one...dude...could you stand waaaaay over there when the lightening starts to strike?   Thanks!

[howard]

It is so sad to see people who are unwilling to know truth, and in the face of it, look for some other unrelated passage to suggest that,"Maybe this is what happened." Maybes just don't cut it.

One of Satan's coups in the hearts of men is to get them to deny and reject the power of God that is resident in the lives of all believers---Holy Spirit. That rejection renders these people to be powerless and basically nominal. All learning for them is done by mental assent and fleshly understanding, because of their spurning of spiritual revelation.

They can still have power through the spirit of Christ, but missing the holy spirit they would miss a dimension of power by denying one member of the God head.

No. The Spirit of Christ is Holy Spirit. Denying holy Spirit is denying God---they would be merely nominal Christians...in name only.

The God in the OT is Jesus, Paul told us this

It was Jesus who wa with the Israelites in the wilderness

1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (KJV)
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; [2] And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; [3] And did all eat the same spiritual meat; [4] And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Who is th Christ of the bible?

Jesus

Who sent the evil spirit from God in the OT
Jesus
.

[howard]

Here is a spirit from God
If we use you all theory then this guy is the HS
But we will have a problem because he is a evil spirit from God

1 Samuel 16:15-16 (KJV)
And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. [16] Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

This spirit be it evil come from God

1 Samuel 16:23 (KJV)
And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

1 Samuel 18:10 (KJV)
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.

1 Samuel 19:9 (KJV)
And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

A spirit from God

We know of a Holy spirit
We know of a evil spirit

From God

God allowed an evil spirit, but God has nothing to with evil and if you are comparing the Holy Spirit to an evil one...dude...could you stand waaaaay over there when the lightening starts to strike?  Thanks!

It is written from God's own mouth that he created evil

Isaiah 45:6-7 (KJV)
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else. [7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things .

Guess who that evil is ?

Satan and te evil angels

God created them

[howard]

Satan is that evil spirit from God

Satan job is to look for those who want to sin

1 Peter 5:8 (KJV)
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Satan is a angel or spirit
He is a ministering spirit that does evil

Sent from God

Is he the spirit of truth?

He is a spirit. He is sent from God, he brings truth

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (KJV)
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Satan can bring truth/light

[MeMyself]

Here is a spirit from God
If we use you all theory then this guy is the HS
But we will have a problem because he is a evil spirit from God

1 Samuel 16:15-16 (KJV)
And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. [16] Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

This spirit be it evil come from God

1 Samuel 16:23 (KJV)
And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

1 Samuel 18:10 (KJV)
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.

1 Samuel 19:9 (KJV)
And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

A spirit from God

We know of a Holy spirit
We know of a evil spirit

From God

God allowed an evil spirit, but God has nothing to with evil and if you are comparing the Holy Spirit to an evil one...dude...could you stand waaaaay over there when the lightening starts to strike?  Thanks!

It is written from God's own mouth that he created evil

Isaiah 45:6-7 (KJV)
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else. [7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things .

Guess who that evil is ?

Satan and te evil angels

God created them

Yes, in that sense they are "from" God...and I am not denying He is the creator...but you seem to be twisting scripture to say "from" God as in, cooperation with Him.  God allowed Satan to persecute Job, but HE Himself was not in the persecution.

The Holy Spirit is NOT an evil one.  The Holy Spirit is our Helper and Comforter.