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The Trinity, Fact or Fiction?

Started by howard, Sat Jun 30, 2012 - 07:03:19

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Mikey888

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:26:42
This is Worthy of being Repeated:

"If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. "

Ahab's prophets were slain, but Elijah's Prophets proclaimed the Truth from their Housetops, even as Elijah commanded them by the Word of the LORD!

Now I'm Listening...


Mikey888

Well, boys and girls, where is your faith?

Is it IN Christ, or in man?

Let ME HEAR the Word of Lord from ALL you who claim to be Spiritual, or a Prophet!
And let ME HEAR IT TODAY.

Exodus 32:26
then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, "Whoever is on the LORD's side—come to me!" And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him.


seriously,
Mikey888

MeMyself

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:31:16
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:26:42
This is Worthy of being Repeated:

"If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. "

Ahab's prophets were slain, but Elijah's Prophets proclaimed the Truth from their Housetops, even as Elijah commanded them by the Word of the LORD!

Now I'm Listening...


Mikey888

Well, boys and girls, where is your faith?

Is it IN Christ, or in man?

Let ME HEAR the Word of Lord from ALL you who claim to be Spiritual, or a Prophet!
And let ME HEAR IT TODAY.

Exodus 32:26
then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, "Whoever is on the LORD's side—come to me!" And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him.


seriously,
Mikey888

???  ::juggle::

::eatingpopcorn:

Mikey888

Colossians 2:9
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

howard

Psalm 111:10 (KJV)
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever.

Psalm 119:34 (KJV)
Give me understanding, and I shall keep thy law; yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart.

Proverbs 2:6 (KJV)
For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Jesus is the  God that does this



MeMyself

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:44:26
Colossians 2:9
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

well this I agree with...what's with all that other ranty kinda stuff?  ::shrug::

howard

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:31:16
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:26:42
This is Worthy of being Repeated:

"If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. "

Ahab's prophets were slain, but Elijah's Prophets proclaimed the Truth from their Housetops, even as Elijah commanded them by the Word of the LORD!

Now I'm Listening...


Mikey888

Well, boys and girls, where is your faith?

Is it IN Christ, or in man?

Let ME HEAR the Word of Lord from ALL you who claim to be Spiritual, or a Prophet!
And let ME HEAR IT TODAY.

Exodus 32:26
then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, "Whoever is on the LORD's side—come to me!" And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him.


seriously,
Mikey888

howard

#741
Where's God the Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

MeMyself

Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:53:15
Where's God te Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

howard, how much longer is this going to go on?  What is your goal here?


howard

Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:55:09
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:53:15
Where's God te Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

howard, how much longer is this going to go on?  What is your goal here?


Until its done


MeMyself

Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:58:09
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:55:09
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:53:15
Where's God te Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

howard, how much longer is this going to go on?  What is your goal here?


Until its done

Okaaaay...and when will that be?  I mean what more can be said? You are just repeating the same thing over and over and it doesn't look like you've changed anyone's mind that believes in the Trinity...and no one is changing yours....so....?

howard

Revelation 1:10 (KJV)
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

What spirit was John in?

Was it the God the HS ?
or what Spirit was he in?

howard

Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:59:40
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:58:09
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:55:09
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:53:15
Where's God te Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

howard, how much longer is this going to go on?  What is your goal here?


Until its done

Okaaaay...and when will that be?  I mean what more can be said? You are just repeating the same thing over and over and it doesn't look like you've changed anyone's mind that believes in the Trinity...and no one is changing yours....so....?

You are right

Why stop its a lot more verses I want to put, and if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

Lively Stone

Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:03:52
Revelation 1:10 (KJV)
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

What spirit was John in?

Was it the God the HS ?
or what Spirit was he in?

When we spend time with God and worship Him, and pray in the Spirit, sometimes a believer---like John---can be transported by Holy Spirit to the heavenly realm. That is where John would have received His experience with Jesus and been given his revelation.

That is what being in the Spirit means. Experiencing God deeply.

Lively Stone

Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:59:40
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:58:09
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:55:09
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:53:15
Where's God te Holy Spirit?

He's still missing!

A simple question that can't be answered

Where is the trinity?

The Son is God
The Father is God

The Holy Spirit comes in many forms.

Here is what's written about pride

Proverbs 6:16-20 (KJV)
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

If you don't know just admit you don't know

howard, how much longer is this going to go on?  What is your goal here?


Until its done

Okaaaay...and when will that be?  I mean what more can be said? You are just repeating the same thing over and over and it doesn't look like you've changed anyone's mind that believes in the Trinity...and no one is changing yours....so....?

You are right

Why stop its a lot more verses I want to put, and if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

Not really. You have been answered by those of us who know what we are talking about, who experience the reality of Holy Spirit in our daily lives. You only have some faulty book learnin' to rely on.

howard

Thank all of you who responded to the topic
Thank all of you who read the topic
Thank you Moderator and administrator for allowing this topic
Peace and blessing in Jesus mighty name


Mikey888

Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:47:57
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:44:26
Colossians 2:9
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

well this I agree with...what's with all that other ranty kinda stuff?  ::shrug::

Then why do you lift up "the trinity" which is mans concept of God?
God's self revealing Word is "Godhead".
Why have you and all the "trinitarians" replaced God's Holy Word "Godhead" with mans concept of God "trinity"?

Why would anyone reject God's Word?
God's Word is Truth!  GODHEAD
Mans word is a lie.  "trinity".

So you, please explain why you have replaced God's own Word with mans.
Is it because you haven't truly believed God's Word, who is Jesus Christ?
Or is it because you just haven't received God's Word, who is Jesus Christ, the perfect image of our Father?

You tell me, "trinity" is your extra-biblical belief.

Mikey888

Mikey888


MeMyself

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:27:21
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:47:57
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:44:26
Colossians 2:9
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

well this I agree with...what's with all that other ranty kinda stuff?  ::shrug::

Then why do you lift up "the trinity" which is mans concept of God?
God's self revealing Word is "Godhead".
Why have you and all the "trinitarians" replaced God's Holy Word "Godhead" with mans concept of God "trinity"?

Why would anyone reject God's Word?
God's Word is Truth!  GODHEAD
Mans word is a lie.  "trinity".

So you, please explain why you have replaced God's own Word with mans.
Is it because you haven't truly believed God's Word, who is Jesus Christ?
Or is it because you just haven't received God's Word, who is Jesus Christ, the perfect image of our Father?

You tell me, "trinity" is your extra-biblical belief.

Mikey888

so...you agree with howard's take but you attack howard...I think you just like a good slapfest  ::smacking:: and you think you have all the answers, but everybody else is wrong

::eatingpopcorn:

MeMyself

Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

No, that's not what I've noticed actually.

What I've noticed is people give you reasonable explanations and use God's word correctly, and you then accuse them of using emotions to simply dismiss what they say.

You post all the scripture you want...you aren't proving anything away...just that you are confused. :(

Mikey888

Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:40:29
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:27:21
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:47:57
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 21:44:26
Colossians 2:9
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

well this I agree with...what's with all that other ranty kinda stuff?  ::shrug::

Then why do you lift up "the trinity" which is mans concept of God?
God's self revealing Word is "Godhead".
Why have you and all the "trinitarians" replaced God's Holy Word "Godhead" with mans concept of God "trinity"?

Why would anyone reject God's Word?
God's Word is Truth!  GODHEAD
Mans word is a lie.  "trinity".

So you, please explain why you have replaced God's own Word with mans.
Is it because you haven't truly believed God's Word, who is Jesus Christ?
Or is it because you just haven't received God's Word, who is Jesus Christ, the perfect image of our Father?

You tell me, "trinity" is your extra-biblical belief.

Mikey888

so...you agree with howard's take but you attack howard...I think you just like a good slapfest  ::smacking:: and you think you have all the answers, but everybody else is wrong

::eatingpopcorn:

But you didn't explain why you worship something that ISN'T God's Word, MeMyself.
Please explain.


Mikey888

Mikey888

1 Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason...

Lively Stone

#757
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:42:44
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

No, that's not what I've noticed actually.

What I've noticed is people give you reasonable explanations and use God's word correctly, and you then accuse them of using emotions to simply dismiss what they say.

You post all the scripture you want...you aren't proving anything away...just that you are confused. :(



These guys who are rejecting Holy Spirit as part of who God is will get a rude awakening one Day, and not before they realize that they have no power within them to understand the deeper things of God from the word as others are receiving, no power in their lives against sickness and disease, and no power to bring the truth of the Gospel to someone so that he is miraculously saved, etc, etc, etc. Without the empowerment of Holy Spirit in their lives, they are just living in a religion.

Mikey888

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:03:15
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:42:44
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

No, that's not what I've noticed actually.

What I've noticed is people give you reasonable explanations and use God's word correctly, and you then accuse them of using emotions to simply dismiss what they say.

You post all the scripture you want...you aren't proving anything away...just that you are confused. :(



These guys who are rejecting Holy Spirit as part of who God is will get a rude awakening one Day, and not before they realize that they have no power within them to understand the deeper things of God from the word as others are receiving, no power in their lives against sickness and disease, and no power to bring the truth of the Gospel to someone so that he is miraculously saved, etc, etc, etc. Without the empowerment of Holy Spirit in their lives, they are just living in a religion.

Spoken from the horses xxx mouth!

For indeed even Satan is transformed into an angel of light!

But LS cannot understand it!

Mikey

grace

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

Mikey888

Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

grace

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Did I mention trinity?  ::angel::

Mikey888

Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:32:22
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Did I mention trinity?  ::angel::

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?


grace

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:34:31
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:32:22
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Did I mention trinity?  ::angel::

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?
I stand on the word of God!  ::tippinghat::

Mikey888

Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:37:31
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:34:31
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:32:22
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Did I mention trinity?  ::angel::

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?
I stand on the word of God!  ::tippinghat::


Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Lively Stone

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:14:35
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:03:15
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:42:44
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

No, that's not what I've noticed actually.

What I've noticed is people give you reasonable explanations and use God's word correctly, and you then accuse them of using emotions to simply dismiss what they say.

You post all the scripture you want...you aren't proving anything away...just that you are confused. :(



These guys who are rejecting Holy Spirit as part of who God is will get a rude awakening one Day, and not before they realize that they have no power within them to understand the deeper things of God from the word as others are receiving, no power in their lives against sickness and disease, and no power to bring the truth of the Gospel to someone so that he is miraculously saved, etc, etc, etc. Without the empowerment of Holy Spirit in their lives, they are just living in a religion.

Spoken from the horses xxx mouth!

For indeed even Satan is transformed into an angel of light!

But LS cannot understand it!

Mikey

Are you trying to cover up some evil speech there with your 'x''s? should I pay you any mind for speaking like that?

I don't have a problem with Satan trying to confuse me, because I have Holy Spirit living within me telling me what end is up.

Lively Stone

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Nope. Do you realize you have used the word 'Godhead' more here than it is even used in scripture? Now try using 'Holy Spirit', who is one part of the Godhead.

Mikey888

Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:40:57
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:37:31
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:34:31
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:32:22
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:28:35
Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.


Did I mention trinity?  ::angel::

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?
I stand on the word of God!  ::tippinghat::


Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Yeah, thought so.

Just another cowardly religious person taking the Name of God in vain.

Matthew 15
Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."


and another witness against idolatry:

Mark 7
He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

'This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men...



Mikey888

Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:52:28
Quote from: Mikey888 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:14:35
Quote from: Lively Stone on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:03:15
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:42:44
Quote from: howard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 22:08:08
if you notice my questions my post are answered with emotions and not the word of God

No, that's not what I've noticed actually.

What I've noticed is people give you reasonable explanations and use God's word correctly, and you then accuse them of using emotions to simply dismiss what they say.

You post all the scripture you want...you aren't proving anything away...just that you are confused. :(



These guys who are rejecting Holy Spirit as part of who God is will get a rude awakening one Day, and not before they realize that they have no power within them to understand the deeper things of God from the word as others are receiving, no power in their lives against sickness and disease, and no power to bring the truth of the Gospel to someone so that he is miraculously saved, etc, etc, etc. Without the empowerment of Holy Spirit in their lives, they are just living in a religion.

Spoken from the horses xxx mouth!

For indeed even Satan is transformed into an angel of light!

But LS cannot understand it!

Mikey

Are you trying to cover up some evil speech there with your 'x''s? should I pay you any mind for speaking like that?

I don't have a problem with Satan trying to confuse me, because I have Holy Spirit living within me telling me what end is up.

That's just your evil mind again.
I was referring to your triple X SIZED MOUTH which I previously pointed out to you; grandma.
It's like a Wolf's mouth, and everyone BUT YOU can see it.

Lively Stone

Quote from: grace on Thu Jul 26, 2012 - 23:20:42
Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

Excellent, grace! We all know the important truth in that, but those who reject Holy Spirit as God are going to poo-poo it. All scripture that includes Him as part of who God is is simply sniffed at. It is a serious problem with spiritual blindness and no matter of any arguing can make them see. It's too bad, because the plain truth is in the living word for everyone to know---except those who stick their fingers in their ears. These persons need a miracle of intervention by the Spirit Himself, and that WILL NOT happen without people like us doing some spiritual warfare over this situation.

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