The Trinity, Fact or Fiction?

[Mikey888]

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

Did I mention trinity? 

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?

I stand on the word of God! 

Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Yeah, thought so.

Just another cowardly religious person taking the Name of God in vain.

Matthew 15
Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."

and another witness against idolatry:

Mark 7
He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

'This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men...

[grace]

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

Did I mention trinity? 

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?

I stand on the word of God! 

Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Do you believe in Dinasaurs?

[grace]

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

Did I mention trinity? 

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?

I stand on the word of God! 

Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Yeah, thought so.

Just another cowardly religious person taking the Name of God in vain.

Matthew 15
Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."

and another witness against idolatry:

Mark 7
He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

'This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men...

wow! I had to leave my computer and came back to this! 

[Mikey888]

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

Did I mention trinity? 

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?

I stand on the word of God! 

Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Yeah, thought so.

Just another cowardly religious person taking the Name of God in vain.

Matthew 15
Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."

and another witness against idolatry:

Mark 7
He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

'This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men...

wow! I had to leave my computer and came back to this! 

AND YOU STILL DONT GET IT!!!

But you are about to get it,
The Lord takes idolatry very seriously.

The "trinity" is a commandment of man, it's not in the bible, so why do you believe and promote it?
Why don't you ALL promote and glorify God's Word, who teaches the Godhead?

[Mikey888]

Has the word "Elohim" been discussed on this thread?

"In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth."

This word is used 2,248 times in the Bible.  Though the word "God" is singular in English, when the word Elohim is used in reference to the one, eternal God, it is one of the most incredible words you will ever find in scripture.  A simple difinition of it is: a plural singularity.  Yes, that is confusing: How can anything living be both plural and singular at the same time?  Burt that is exactly what is being said: God is singular, yet plural in His existence. 

In the very first verse of the very first book of the Bible! It is like he is saying..."Look, before we go any futher, I want you to know right here at the beginning that I exist in a way your mind simply cannot grasp: I am Elohim-One God and One God only, Who exists in a manner that you would call plural. Make no mistake about it; there is no other gods beside me, but I am a plural singularity in my existence."

And make no mistake about this either:

"trinity" is NOT God's Word.

GODHEAD is God's Word.

Did I mention trinity? 

You didn't mention Godhead either,

so clarify yourself.

Where ddo you stand, on the side of God
or on the side of man?

Or do you stand at all?

I stand on the word of God! 

Yeah, I get the picture.
So, you to trample underfoot the Holy City, eh?

I stand IN the Promises of God in Christ!

Do you worship "the trinity" or the Godhead?
Stop evading and hiding in the shadows - answer the question.

Do you believe in Dinasaurs?

Dinosaurs?

See how you change the subject to evade the truth?
I understand why your hiding under your chair.

You don't know the Truth.
WOW
You have good reason to be afraid - you have been confronted with God's Word and you deny it.

Simple question:
Trinity opr Godhead.

You refuse to answer, and distract and evade, but God sees.
You will never escape accountability now.

[grace]

I guess you do not believe in dinosaurs either!

I accept the Bible as the FINAL word from God for all scripture, including the teachings about the trinity!

Not only in Gen. 1:1 does the Bible reveal the concept of God being a plural singularity...it is also confirmed in Genesis 1:26:
"Let US make"

Isaiah 6:8 .."Who shall go for US"...the one God as an "us" 

Now we move to the New Testament...
The Greek word "Theos" is used in place of the Hevrew word "Elohim." The word "Theos" in and of itself appears to be singular, it was used in the plural tense.  So the writers of the NT confirms the idea of God being a "plural singularity."

The importance of this cannot be understated; it means that people in both the Old and New Testaments who believed in God referred to Him as a "plural Being" (Trinity) whether or not a corresponding word for Trinity from their own language was used.

[Mikey888]

I guess you do not believe in dinosaurs either!

I accept the Bible as the FINAL word from God for all scripture, including the teachings about the trinity!

Not only in Gen. 1:1 does the Bible reveal the concept of God being a plural singularity...it is also confirmed in Genesis 1:26:
"Let US make"

Isaiah 6:8 .."Who shall go for US"...the one God as an "us" 

Now we move to the New Testament...
The Greek word "Theos" is used in place of the Hevrew word "Elohim." The word "Theos" in and of itself appears to be singular, it was used in the plural tense.  So the writers of the NT confirms the idea of God being a "plural singularity."

The importance of this cannot be understated; it means that people in both the Old and New Testaments who believed in God referred to Him as a "plural Being" (Trinity) whether or not a corresponding word for Trinity from their own language was used.

Trinity is NOT in the bible.
It is not God's word.
God reveals Himself through His Word.
His Word is very precise, and His CHOSEN Word by which He reveals Himself is "Godhead".

Elohim is plural, yes, but it is distinctly TWO, no more no less.

God is the head of Christ.
Christ is the head of man.
Man is the head of woman.

Since Christ is the firstborn of the Creation of God, He is also the Preeminent One.

Are we in agreement so far?

[Lively Stone]

It is a completely confused mind that considers worshiping God as idolatry. When Christians worship the Lord, they worship the entire Godhead. It is obvious that these fellows are not churched.

[bemark]

Matthew 12:31–32

31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

That holy spirit that is blasphemed and will not be forgiven is God's word

It is not God the holy spirit or the Holy spirit

So are you are saying that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is rejecting Gods word,  in this case.So then according to you this would make the Holy Spirit Jesus as Jesus is the word of God made flesh.And Jesus is God.So then that would make The Holy Spirit God.

Bemark

Go back and reread what I put and next time quote all of it

OK howard is the Holy Spirit Gods word Yes or No?

[grace]

I guess you do not believe in dinosaurs either!

I accept the Bible as the FINAL word from God for all scripture, including the teachings about the trinity!

Not only in Gen. 1:1 does the Bible reveal the concept of God being a plural singularity...it is also confirmed in Genesis 1:26:
"Let US make"

Isaiah 6:8 .."Who shall go for US"...the one God as an "us" 

Now we move to the New Testament...
The Greek word "Theos" is used in place of the Hevrew word "Elohim." The word "Theos" in and of itself appears to be singular, it was used in the plural tense.  So the writers of the NT confirms the idea of God being a "plural singularity."

The importance of this cannot be understated; it means that people in both the Old and New Testaments who believed in God referred to Him as a "plural Being" (Trinity) whether or not a corresponding word for Trinity from their own language was used.

Trinity is NOT in the bible.
It is not God's word.

I agreed the word itself is not in the Bible..but is dinosaur in the Bible? 

God reveals Himself through His Word.
His Word is very precise, and His CHOSEN Word by which He reveals Himself is "Godhead".

God has many names that describe Himself in the Bible! ... Elohim (god, or authority), El (mighty one), El Shaddai (almighty), Adonai (master), Elyon (highest), Avinu (our father), are not names but titles, highlighting different aspects of God and the various roles of God. Just to name a few

Elohim is plural, yes, but it is distinctly TWO, no more no less.

This I do not agree! How many heavens are there?

God is the head of Christ.
Christ is the head of man.
Man is the head of woman.

this I agree!

[Mikey888]

It is a completely confused mind that considers worshiping God as idolatry. When Christians worship the Lord, they worship the entire Godhead. It is obvious that these fellows are not churched.

I worship God.
I serve the King of kings; my Lord Jesus Christ.
I abide in Christ.

You worship a "trinity" and the "trinity" is the commandment of men, making the Godhead "of none effect" even as Jesus said.

If you worshiped as God commands, you would shut your big MOUTH WOMAN.  Instead you rush in like a fool where angels wouldn't dare go!

Those chains of Darkness have you bound so tight because every time you mock me, they get tighter.  Keep pushing a bad position and SEE where that gets you.

M

[Mikey888]

I guess you do not believe in dinosaurs either!

I accept the Bible as the FINAL word from God for all scripture, including the teachings about the trinity!

Not only in Gen. 1:1 does the Bible reveal the concept of God being a plural singularity...it is also confirmed in Genesis 1:26:
"Let US make"

Isaiah 6:8 .."Who shall go for US"...the one God as an "us" 

Now we move to the New Testament...
The Greek word "Theos" is used in place of the Hevrew word "Elohim." The word "Theos" in and of itself appears to be singular, it was used in the plural tense.  So the writers of the NT confirms the idea of God being a "plural singularity."

The importance of this cannot be understated; it means that people in both the Old and New Testaments who believed in God referred to Him as a "plural Being" (Trinity) whether or not a corresponding word for Trinity from their own language was used.

Trinity is NOT in the bible.
It is not God's word.

I agreed the word itself is not in the Bible..but is dinosaur in the Bible? 

God reveals Himself through His Word.
His Word is very precise, and His CHOSEN Word by which He reveals Himself is "Godhead".

God has many names that describe Himself in the Bible! ... Elohim (god, or authority), El (mighty one), El Shaddai (almighty), Adonai (master), Elyon (highest), Avinu (our father), are not names but titles, highlighting different aspects of God and the various roles of God. Just to name a few

Elohim is plural, yes, but it is distinctly TWO, no more no less.

This I do not agree! How many heavens are there?

God is the head of Christ.
Christ is the head of man.
Man is the head of woman.

this I agree!

OK I'll meet you where you are, as long as you are honest with me and stop playing games.
What do Dinosaurs have to with God making Man in His image?  Nothing.
So let's not get caught up in the things of the world that do not pertain to life and Godliness - fair enough?

Can you also see these truths in Scripture:
Christ came forth from the Father
and just like that...
Eve came forth from Adam.

Jesus Christ; the same, yesterday today and forever.
He does things the same way, over and over again.
That is part of His signature.
He who is, was, and always shall be... the SAME.
The Word of God is Eternal.

do you agree?

[Lively Stone]

I worship God.
I serve the King of kings; my Lord Jesus Christ.
I abide in Christ.

You need to speak with more respect, and show that you are a worthy debater.

Have you experienced the baptism of Holy Spirit, or have you refused that?

You worship a "trinity" and the "trinity" is the commandment of men, making the Godhead "of none effect" even as Jesus said.

There is no commandment of men concerning worshiping God. It is His command.

Those chains of Darkness have you bound so tight because every time you mock me, they get tighter.  Keep pushing a bad position and SEE where that gets you.

Nobody's mocking you. You are being corrected but you refuse. Each time you refuse you will be reminded when you stand before the Father how many times you spurned His truth, and the countless opportunities He has been giving you to know Him better.

Do you belong to a church, or have you forsaken that commandment?

[Mikey888]

I worship God.
I serve the King of kings; my Lord Jesus Christ.
I abide in Christ.

You need to speak with more respect, and show that you are a worthy debater.

Have you experienced the baptism of Holy Spirit, or have you refused that?

You worship a "trinity" and the "trinity" is the commandment of men, making the Godhead "of none effect" even as Jesus said.

There is no commandment of men concerning worshiping God. It is His command.

Those chains of Darkness have you bound so tight because every time you mock me, they get tighter.  Keep pushing a bad position and SEE where that gets you.

Nobody's mocking you. You are being corrected but you refuse. Each time you refuse you will be reminded when you stand before the Father how many times you spurned His truth, and the countless opportunities He has been giving you to know Him better.

Do you belong to a church, or have you forsaken that commandment?

Those words you just spoke are binding on YOU alone.
You will answer to the LORD for them, and every idle word and mocking word you have spoken today.

You want respect?  Act respectfully.

[bemark]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

[Mikey888]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

People who worship a "trinity" aren't finding that in the Bible.
They are looking at a man-made idol, a false image of God.
Those who receive God's word worship God according to His Word, which is Godhead.
There is nothing alike between the "trinity" doctrine and the Doctrine of Christ which is the Godhead.
That's why Jesus said "in vain do you worship Me, teaching as Doctrine the commandments of men."

[Lively Stone]

I worship God.
I serve the King of kings; my Lord Jesus Christ.
I abide in Christ.

You need to speak with more respect, and show that you are a worthy debater.

Have you experienced the baptism of Holy Spirit, or have you refused that?

You worship a "trinity" and the "trinity" is the commandment of men, making the Godhead "of none effect" even as Jesus said.

There is no commandment of men concerning worshiping God. It is His command.

Those chains of Darkness have you bound so tight because every time you mock me, they get tighter.  Keep pushing a bad position and SEE where that gets you.

Nobody's mocking you. You are being corrected but you refuse. Each time you refuse you will be reminded when you stand before the Father how many times you spurned His truth, and the countless opportunities He has been giving you to know Him better.

Do you belong to a church, or have you forsaken that commandment?

Those words you just spoke are binding on YOU alone.
You will answer to the LORD for them, and every idle word and mocking word you have spoken today.

You want respect?  Act respectfully.

I haven't said anything I am ashamed of, but you need to speak with respect, and stop giving vent to your own uncontrollable emotions.


I stand on the words I have ever said. They are the truth. I know Holy Spirit. He lives in me. Please answer my question---Have you experienced the baptism in the Holy Spirit?

Who do you think Holy Spirit is? He comes to dwell inside every believer. If He isn't God indwelling us, why do you think God would allow any other Spirit but His own to live in His children?

[Lively Stone]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

People who worship a "trinity" aren't finding that in the Bible.
They are looking at a man-made idol, a false image of God.
Those who receive God's word worship God according to His Word, which is Godhead.
There is nothing alike between the "trinity" doctrine and the Doctrine of Christ which is the Godhead.
That's why Jesus said "in vain do you worship Me, teaching as Doctrine the commandments of men."

That's false. When a believer studies the word of God, he comes to the understanding that God is Three. The word, 'trinity' is just a word. It isn't a doctrine---it is a WORD that describes God and who He is and how He presents Himself to the world.

You are just hiding behind your own silly phrases, such as 'commandments of men'---where there is no commandment---and saying silly things like our worship is in vain, when a true believer cannot truly worship God if not in Spirit and in truth.

John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it's here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

John 4:24
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth."



You can't take His spirit out of God. He will not stand for it.

[Lively Stone]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Thank you, Lord for your beautiful Holy Spirit, who comes to live inside every believer to teach us and to empower us to do the works of Christ! It is because of Holy Spirit that I can love you and receive your love and even call you Lord!

[Lively Stone]

Romans 8:10-11
And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you life because you have been made right with God.

The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you.

[Mikey888]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

People who worship a "trinity" aren't finding that in the Bible.
They are looking at a man-made idol, a false image of God.
Those who receive God's word worship God according to His Word, which is Godhead.
There is nothing alike between the "trinity" doctrine and the Doctrine of Christ which is the Godhead.
That's why Jesus said "in vain do you worship Me, teaching as Doctrine the commandments of men."

That's false. When a believer studies the word of God, he comes to the understanding that God is Three. The word, 'trinity' is just a word. It isn't a doctrine---it is a WORD that describes God and who He is and how He presents Himself to the world.

You are just hiding behind your own silly phrases, such as 'commandments of men'---where there is no commandment---and saying silly things like our worship is in vain, when a true believer cannot truly worship God if not in Spirit and in truth.

John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it's here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

John 4:24
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth."



You can't take His spirit out of God. He will not stand for it.

"The trinity isn't a doctrine?"  Wow! Where have you been?  It's been practiced as a mandatory doctrine in the church for almost 2000 years!

As for thew Holy Spirit, I have NEVER denied the Holy Spirit.  You tell lies about me.

Now stop your false accusations. 

I DO worship God in Spirit and in Truth - you don't even know God's word, much less the Spirit of Life.

Why don't you go study the commands of God like Paul said, and then shut your big mouth like Paul said too.  Woman.  Don't you understand New Testament Doctrine from the Bible?  Maybe you should study that, then you might just find the approval of God, instead of parading yourself around here for slaps on the back.

[bemark]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

People who worship a "trinity" aren't finding that in the Bible.
They are looking at a man-made idol, a false image of God.
Those who receive God's word worship God according to His Word, which is Godhead.
There is nothing alike between the "trinity" doctrine and the Doctrine of Christ which is the Godhead.
That's why Jesus said "in vain do you worship Me, teaching as Doctrine the commandments of men."

It says     "Now the Lord is the Spirit"    and by the "Spirit of the Lord"

Now we are changed by what is in front of us so please don't say a angel

[Lively Stone]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

People who worship a "trinity" aren't finding that in the Bible.
They are looking at a man-made idol, a false image of God.
Those who receive God's word worship God according to His Word, which is Godhead.
There is nothing alike between the "trinity" doctrine and the Doctrine of Christ which is the Godhead.
That's why Jesus said "in vain do you worship Me, teaching as Doctrine the commandments of men."

That's false. When a believer studies the word of God, he comes to the understanding that God is Three. The word, 'trinity' is just a word. It isn't a doctrine---it is a WORD that describes God and who He is and how He presents Himself to the world.

You are just hiding behind your own silly phrases, such as 'commandments of men'---where there is no commandment---and saying silly things like our worship is in vain, when a true believer cannot truly worship God if not in Spirit and in truth.

John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it's here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

John 4:24
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth."



You can't take His spirit out of God. He will not stand for it.

"The trinity isn't a doctrine?"  Wow! Where have you been?  It's been practiced as a mandatory doctrine in the church for almost 2000 years!

If that is true, what makes you, now 2000 years later so much more attuned to the truth that you can toss it aside? What is your church?

As for thew Holy Spirit, I have NEVER denied the Holy Spirit.  You tell lies about me.

Now stop your false accusations. 

I DO worship God in Spirit and in Truth - you don't even know God's word, much less the Spirit of Life.

Do you deny that Holy Spirit is God? If so, you deny Him His rightful place, and you grieve Him.

Why don't you go study the commands of God like Paul said, and then shut your big mouth like Paul said too.  Woman.  Don't you understand New Testament Doctrine from the Bible?  Maybe you should study that, then you might just find the approval of God, instead of parading yourself around here for slaps on the back.

Don't you speak to me in that insulting and sexist way, kid. You cannot order me around with that false and evil notion that women are to be quiet. I love Paul and my Paul didn't say anything like that.

What church are you a part of?

Personally, all I see is you in a parade of one.

[bemark]

Mikey888 who is the Holy Spirit and how do you relate with Him?I am talking about your personal relationship with the Spirit of God.

[Lively Stone]

As far as I am concerned, further participation in  this thread is just...

[bemark]

16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Thank you, Lord for your beautiful Holy Spirit, who comes to live inside every believer to teach us and to empower us to do the works of Christ! It is because of Holy Spirit that I can love you and receive your love and even call you Lord!

I know by word and by Spirit you have encountered Him.Joy in the (Holy Ghost) Lord around you.

[Lively Stone]

Since there are two accusers here now, why don't you stand side by side and pat each others back, have your own little circle jerk, as usual.

You're not worthy of the time.

And just for the LOUD MOUTHED WOMAN:
1 Timothy 2:12
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

Put that in your study notes, it's PAUL'S!

Good thing Paul didn't mean what you mean!

Learn some manners. Now why won't you answer what church you belong to? What church teaches you these things you believe?

[chosenone]

It is a completely confused mind that considers worshiping God as idolatry. When Christians worship the Lord, they worship the entire Godhead. It is obvious that these fellows are not churched.

I worship God.
I serve the King of kings; my Lord Jesus Christ.
I abide in Christ.

You worship a "trinity" and the "trinity" is the commandment of men, making the Godhead "of none effect" even as Jesus said.

If you worshiped as God commands, you would shut your big MOUTH WOMAN.  Instead you rush in like a fool where angels wouldn't dare go!

Those chains of Darkness have you bound so tight because every time you mock me, they get tighter.  Keep pushing a bad position and SEE where that gets you.

M

I dont worhsip a trinity. I worship God through Jesus with the Holy Spirit who is in me. Just a simple question. Why do you say that The Holy Spirit is? We have a member her who says that The Holy Spirit is The angel gabriel. How about you?

[chosenone]

Mikey
Women here on this forum are allowed to have equal membership and have as much right as men to say what they believe. If you cant accept that then please leave.

[chosenone]

I am locking this thread.