Reincarnation

[Lively Stone]

Satan was made by God and has no power, except that God gives Him.

Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 says all sickness comes form Gog as a punishment for sin.

Seeing as my God is my Healer and His promise is to heal all my diseases, your claim would make Him a liar, wouldn't it?

[Funguy33]

Satan was made by God and has no power, except that God gives Him.

Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 says all sickness comes form Gog as a punishment for sin.

Seeing as my God is my Healer and His promise is to heal all my diseases, your claim would make Him a liar, wouldn't it?

God also punishes for sin...There will be healing for sinners even in Heaven.
In Rev. 22:2, on "the new earth," we see "the Tree of life" that yields fruit every month, the "leaves" of which are "for the healing of the nations" (Rev. 22:2). This teaches us that in the new earth, "the nations" are in need of continual healing.

[Lively Stone]

Satan was made by God and has no power, except that God gives Him.

Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 says all sickness comes form Gog as a punishment for sin.

Seeing as my God is my Healer and His promise is to heal all my diseases, your claim would make Him a liar, wouldn't it?

God also punishes for sin...There will be healing for sinners even in Heaven.
In Rev. 22:2, on "the new earth," we see "the Tree of life" that yields fruit every month, the "leaves" of which are "for the healing of the nations" (Rev. 22:2). This teaches us that in the new earth, "the nations" are in need of continual healing.

Oh, really?

Where does it say there is sin or sinners in Heaven? The Tree of Life is for restoration.

Don't you think you need to reconcile what you are saying with:

Revelation 2:3?
There shall no longer exist there anything that is accursed (detestable, foul, offensive, impure, hateful, or horrible).

[Funguy33]

Satan was made by God and has no power, except that God gives Him.

Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 says all sickness comes form Gog as a punishment for sin.

Seeing as my God is my Healer and His promise is to heal all my diseases, your claim would make Him a liar, wouldn't it?

God also punishes for sin...There will be healing for sinners even in Heaven.
In Rev. 22:2, on "the new earth," we see "the Tree of life" that yields fruit every month, the "leaves" of which are "for the healing of the nations" (Rev. 22:2). This teaches us that in the new earth, "the nations" are in need of continual healing.

Oh, really?

Where does it say there is sin or sinners in Heaven? The Tree of Life is for restoration.

Don't you think you need to reconcile what you are saying with:

Revelation 2:3?
There shall no longer exist there anything that is accursed (detestable, foul, offensive, impure, hateful, or horrible).

Everything in Revelation is writen in code as John was in prison when it was written.

There isn't sin in Heaven but there will always be sinners who when they repent can go there and recieve healing.

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

[fenton]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Funguy33]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we are in the Kingdom of Heaven because Jesus didn't lie when He said The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Those who focus merely on the physical realm here below and do not set our minds on the things above will miss the fulfillment of these things. What is mankind's worst enemy? Physical death or spiritual death? What did Christ come to conquer? Physical death or spiritual death? When was the last ultimate enemy (spiritual death) finally conquered? Is it still unconquered? Has Christ restored His tree of life to us? Have we been gathered into His heavenly kingdom? Do we now have the fullness of spiritual life, or are we still in death's grip? Has Christ conquered, or are the Jews correct in pointing out that Jesus must not be the Messiah since He failed to bring physical peace and an end to physical death?


Many churches/religions have taught an 'escapist' doctrine, whereby God's people have been led to believe that we will one day be evacuated from all that is unpleasant and ungodly. This is not the doctrine of Scripture. The escapist mentality often leads to disappointment in God for 'leaving us here' through all the ups and downs of mankind's governments, economies, societies, etc.

[fenton]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we are in the Kingdom of Heaven because Jesus didn't lie when He said The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Those who focus merely on the physical realm here below and do not set our minds on the things above will miss the fulfillment of these things. What is mankind's worst enemy? Physical death or spiritual death? What did Christ come to conquer? Physical death or spiritual death? When was the last ultimate enemy (spiritual death) finally conquered? Is it still unconquered? Has Christ restored His tree of life to us? Have we been gathered into His heavenly kingdom? Do we now have the fullness of spiritual life, or are we still in death's grip? Has Christ conquered, or are the Jews correct in pointing out that Jesus must not be the Messiah since He failed to bring physical peace and an end to physical death?


Many churches/religions have taught an 'escapist' doctrine, whereby God's people have been led to believe that we will one day be evacuated from all that is unpleasant and ungodly. This is not the doctrine of Scripture. The escapist mentality often leads to disappointment in God for 'leaving us here' through all the ups and downs of mankind's governments, economies, societies, etc.

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we are in the Kingdom of Heaven because Jesus didn't lie when He said The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Those who focus merely on the physical realm here below and do not set our minds on the things above will miss the fulfillment of these things. What is mankind's worst enemy? Physical death or spiritual death? What did Christ come to conquer? Physical death or spiritual death? When was the last ultimate enemy (spiritual death) finally conquered? Is it still unconquered? Has Christ restored His tree of life to us? Have we been gathered into His heavenly kingdom? Do we now have the fullness of spiritual life, or are we still in death's grip? Has Christ conquered, or are the Jews correct in pointing out that Jesus must not be the Messiah since He failed to bring physical peace and an end to physical death?


Many churches/religions have taught an 'escapist' doctrine, whereby God's people have been led to believe that we will one day be evacuated from all that is unpleasant and ungodly. This is not the doctrine of Scripture. The escapist mentality often leads to disappointment in God for 'leaving us here' through all the ups and downs of mankind's governments, economies, societies, etc.

[chosenone]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, we are NOT in heaven. The Bible says that in heaven there will be no more crying and no more pain. We wont be in heaven till after we are dead.

[Lively Stone]

Satan was made by God and has no power, except that God gives Him.

Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 says all sickness comes form Gog as a punishment for sin.

Seeing as my God is my Healer and His promise is to heal all my diseases, your claim would make Him a liar, wouldn't it?

God also punishes for sin...There will be healing for sinners even in Heaven.
In Rev. 22:2, on "the new earth," we see "the Tree of life" that yields fruit every month, the "leaves" of which are "for the healing of the nations" (Rev. 22:2). This teaches us that in the new earth, "the nations" are in need of continual healing.

Oh, really?

Where does it say there is sin or sinners in Heaven? The Tree of Life is for restoration.

Don't you think you need to reconcile what you are saying with:

Revelation 2:3?
There shall no longer exist there anything that is accursed (detestable, foul, offensive, impure, hateful, or horrible).

Everything in Revelation is writen in code as John was in prison when it was written.

Not everything is in code. What is in code is simply by how Jesus introduced the visions. He didn't have to get his stuff by the scrutiny of jailers, like modern day prisoners!

There isn't sin in Heaven but there will always be sinners who when they repent can go there and recieve healing.

Prove that sinners will have a place in Heaven using scripture!

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

No we are not in the Kingdom, although we are citizens. Right now the Kingdom is within us. We will enter the Kingdom either when we die or when we are translated.

[Funguy33]

There will always be sin in the world and Isaiah 9:7 says Jesus authority will continually grow. This world will never end. Look what is happening in China. In the last 20 years they now have more Christians than America. If there is no sin, why the healing trees to heal the nations? Rev 22:2

If Jesus is in your heart, you are in the Kingdom of Heaven. You can't get into a better Heaven than that.

[Lively Stone]

There will always be sin in the world and Isaiah 9:7 says Jesus authority will continually grow. This world will never end. Look what is happening in China. In the last 20 years they now have more Christians than America. If there is no sin, why the healing trees to heal the nations? Rev 22:2

If Jesus is in your heart, you are in the Kingdom of Heaven. You can't get into a better Heaven than that.

There is no sin in Heaven, and it is foolish to suggest that there is. Healing doesn't assuage sin. It assuages wounds.

[Funguy33]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, we are NOT in heaven. The Bible says that in heaven there will be no more crying and no more pain. We wont be in heaven till after we are dead.

The Savior wiped away the tears of His saints when He forever wiped away their sin and condemnation and saved them from Death. (Acts 3:19; Col. 2:14; Heb. 2:15; 5:7) In His Presence, His children no longer mourn for their perpetual sin and condemnation before Him. No longer do they hunger and thirst for want of Christ's Righteousness. (Matt. 5:6; Jn. 6:35) No longer do they wander in the desert wilderness, longing to enter into His Rest. (Heb. 4; 11:13-16) No longer do they suffer the pain (sting) of Death. (Acts 2:24; I Cor. 15:55-56; Heb. 2:15)

In the new heavens and earth, the Lamb is our Shepherd, so that there is no more outcry for salvation from sin and Death. For He leads us to the springs of living water (Jn. 4:10; 7:38) under the shade of the Tree of Life. In Him, there is "no longer any curse":

[Lively Stone]

We are in the Kingdom of Heaven, so this applies to us today.

this may be your kingdom heaven.............   BUT IT AINT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, we are NOT in heaven. The Bible says that in heaven there will be no more crying and no more pain. We wont be in heaven till after we are dead.

The Savior wiped away the tears of His saints when He forever wiped away their sin and condemnation and saved them from Death. (Acts 3:19; Col. 2:14; Heb. 2:15; 5:7) In His Presence, His children no longer mourn for their perpetual sin and condemnation before Him. No longer do they hunger and thirst for want of Christ's Righteousness. (Matt. 5:6; Jn. 6:35) No longer do they wander in the desert wilderness, longing to enter into His Rest. (Heb. 4; 11:13-16) No longer do they suffer the pain (sting) of Death. (Acts 2:24; I Cor. 15:55-56; Heb. 2:15)

In the new heavens and earth, the Lamb is our Shepherd, so that there is no more outcry for salvation from sin and Death. For He leads us to the springs of living water (Jn. 4:10; 7:38) under the shade of the Tree of Life. In Him, there is "no longer any curse":

Sorry, but our tears still fall. God will wipe them away when we see Him.

[fenton]

Sorry, but our tears still fall. God will wipe them away when we see Him.

   

[Willie T]

Tears still?  Yes.  But nowhere as often, and not for many of the same reasons.  Shortest verse in the Bible? : JESUS WEPT.  (John 11:35)

And my tears are always wiped away if I can remember to turn to the Father and let Him do it.

[Victor08]

Exodus 34:7 says we will pay for our sins for 3 lifetimes and our blessings will follow 1000 lifetimes.

There is no coincidense that some are born without arms and legs and others to beautiful lives.

Funguy33, They are not mutually exclusive.

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/about-nick/

Imagine being born without arms. No arms to wrap around a friend ; no hands to hold the ones you love; no fingers to experience touch ; no way to lift or carry things. How much more difficult would life be if you were living without arms and hands? Or what about legs? Imagine if instead of no arms, you had no legs. No ability to dance, walk, run, or even stand. Now put both of those scenarios together... no arms and no legs. What would you do? How would that affect your everyday life?

"If just one more person finds eternal life in Jesus Christ....it is all worth it".  You can help me spread this message today!

Meet Nick Vujicic, pronounced 'Vooy-cheech'. Born in 1982 in Brisbane, Australia, without any medical explanation or warning, Nicholas Vujicic came into the world with neither arms nor legs. Imagine the shock his parents felt when they saw their first-born brand new baby boy for the first time, only to find he was what the world would consider imperfect and abnormal. A limbless son was not what nurse Dushka Vujicic, and her husband Pastor Boris Vujicic had been expecting. How would their son live a normal happy life? What could he ever do or become when living with such a massive disability? Little did they or anyone else know that this beautiful limbless baby would one day be someone who would inspire and motivate people from all walks of life. God uses Nick to touch lives and bring the hope of Jesus Christ to people across the globe.

[Funguy33]

Exodus 34:7 says we will pay for our sins for 3 lifetimes and our blessings will follow 1000 lifetimes.

There is no coincidense that some are born without arms and legs and others to beautiful lives.

Funguy33, They are not mutually exclusive.

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/about-nick/

Imagine being born without arms. No arms to wrap around a friend ; no hands to hold the ones you love; no fingers to experience touch ; no way to lift or carry things. How much more difficult would life be if you were living without arms and hands? Or what about legs? Imagine if instead of no arms, you had no legs. No ability to dance, walk, run, or even stand. Now put both of those scenarios together... no arms and no legs. What would you do? How would that affect your everyday life?

"If just one more person finds eternal life in Jesus Christ....it is all worth it".  You can help me spread this message today!

Meet Nick Vujicic, pronounced 'Vooy-cheech'. Born in 1982 in Brisbane, Australia, without any medical explanation or warning, Nicholas Vujicic came into the world with neither arms nor legs. Imagine the shock his parents felt when they saw their first-born brand new baby boy for the first time, only to find he was what the world would consider imperfect and abnormal. A limbless son was not what nurse Dushka Vujicic, and her husband Pastor Boris Vujicic had been expecting. How would their son live a normal happy life? What could he ever do or become when living with such a massive disability? Little did they or anyone else know that this beautiful limbless baby would one day be someone who would inspire and motivate people from all walks of life. God uses Nick to touch lives and bring the hope of Jesus Christ to people across the globe.

I pray his next life will be normal. I sure he is praying for the same thing.

[MeMyself]

Meet Nick Vujicic, pronounced 'Vooy-cheech'. Born in 1982 in Brisbane, Australia, without any medical explanation or warning, Nicholas Vujicic came into the world with neither arms nor legs. Imagine the shock his parents felt when they saw their first-born brand new baby boy for the first time, only to find he was what the world would consider imperfect and abnormal. A limbless son was not what nurse Dushka Vujicic, and her husband Pastor Boris Vujicic had been expecting. How would their son live a normal happy life? What could he ever do or become when living with such a massive disability? Little did they or anyone else know that this beautiful limbless baby would one day be someone who would inspire and motivate people from all walks of life. God uses Nick to touch lives and bring the hope of Jesus Christ to people across the globe.

Thank you for sharing this beautiful testimony!

[Lively Stone]

Exodus 34:7 says we will pay for our sins for 3 lifetimes and our blessings will follow 1000 lifetimes.

There is no coincidense that some are born without arms and legs and others to beautiful lives.

Funguy33, They are not mutually exclusive.

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/about-nick/

Imagine being born without arms. No arms to wrap around a friend ; no hands to hold the ones you love; no fingers to experience touch ; no way to lift or carry things. How much more difficult would life be if you were living without arms and hands? Or what about legs? Imagine if instead of no arms, you had no legs. No ability to dance, walk, run, or even stand. Now put both of those scenarios together... no arms and no legs. What would you do? How would that affect your everyday life?

"If just one more person finds eternal life in Jesus Christ....it is all worth it".  You can help me spread this message today!

Meet Nick Vujicic, pronounced 'Vooy-cheech'. Born in 1982 in Brisbane, Australia, without any medical explanation or warning, Nicholas Vujicic came into the world with neither arms nor legs. Imagine the shock his parents felt when they saw their first-born brand new baby boy for the first time, only to find he was what the world would consider imperfect and abnormal. A limbless son was not what nurse Dushka Vujicic, and her husband Pastor Boris Vujicic had been expecting. How would their son live a normal happy life? What could he ever do or become when living with such a massive disability? Little did they or anyone else know that this beautiful limbless baby would one day be someone who would inspire and motivate people from all walks of life. God uses Nick to touch lives and bring the hope of Jesus Christ to people across the globe.

I pray his next life will be normal. I sure he is praying for the same thing.

If he didn't know Jesus, his prayers are moot. Our journey reaches its final destination when we breathe our last.

There is no next life apart from heaven for the righteous and hell for the unrighteous.

[DiscipleDave]

The whole Bible is for us. The New Testament did not nullify the Old, they are blended together.

The Old Testament if fulfilled (completed) in Christ, we are no longer obligated to obey the Old Testament which is the old covenant, and we will keep the old testament around as long as there are prophesies yet to be accomplished, this every letter and title answered for.

Click for more info:
Should we obey the Old Testament part one
Should we obey the Old Testament part two

^i^

[Tolasonn]

Exodus 34:7 says we will pay for our sins for 3 lifetimes and our blessings will follow 1000 lifetimes.

There is no coincidense that some are born without arms and legs and others to beautiful lives.

John, Chapter 3

3:Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily,
I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see
the kingdom of God.
4:Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5:Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6:That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that
which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7:Marvel not that I said unto thee,
Ye must be born again.

Reincarnation the second birth!

[Helen]

since this has been brought back up:  reincarnation offers a new body with the same sin nature.  Jesus offers a new nature and, in the future, a new body.  The choice is rather simple, isn't it?  This, despite the fact reincarnation is a demonic myth.  Look at what it has done for India!

[DaveW]

Tears still?  Yes.  But nowhere as often, and not for many of the same reasons.  Shortest verse in the Bible? : JESUS WEPT. (John 11:35)

OR - we can have our dads discipline them from us. 

Heb 12.9a  Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect.

No tears for over 50 years here.