Do you worship the spirit or in the spirit?

[MeMyself]

If Jesus has done it all for us

IF   

why did they (the saints) have to go through it too ? Why do some of us have to be killed as they were ?

They didn't have to be like Jesus had to be! They were killed, persecuted, their deaths are sad but they do nothing for us or them! JESUS death is the one that atoned for sins!  While we were yet sinners, Christ (Jesus) died for us!

To be conformed to Jesus' image one has to suffer as He did.
Obedience is obedience whatever form it has to take....unto death if necessary !.

no...thats not true..and I am so deeply sorry that someone told you this.  Our obedience is to obey Him when He says He alone is the way to the Father, to confess with our mouth that He is Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead....we will never have to suffer the way He did! Even if we are put to death for our beliefs, we will never know the suffering of God forsaking us like Jesus cried out.
Jesus took our suffering, our wages of sin upon Himself so that we will never have to be forsake by the Father if we accept the free gift of salvation that He offers us. 

[Lively Stone]

Don't recall saying that Grace was a doorway for immorality? 

You just said it was in this quote, I said it isn't and so does the bible. No wonder you are confused.

Romans 6:1  What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

My only confusion is coming from your replies right now! 
Where did I say what you say I am saying?
I never said that Grace was a doorway for immorality! I don't recall quoting that scripture! Are you confusing my post with someone else?

Look at the first quote in this box, you said it was after I said it isn't. The testimony of Jesus is spirit of prophecy. I suggested you pray for wisdom, instead of agreeing that grace isn't a doorway for immorality, you say you never said it was and condemned yourself with your own words. Am I not allowed to mention anything from scripture without you denying that you say the opposite?

BTW, you have just stated it again in this last quote from you. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue. It's not scriptural to say that it is so why would you quote scripture?

Just pray for some wisdom, it's not a bad suggestion.

I thought you were insinuating that I thought Grace was a doorway for immorality. I simply said I did not recall stating that anywhere on this thread!

I don't know where you are going with all this Bitter Sweet? Or what I said to get you all upset...UNLESS...it was my testimony of how I worshipped..

Well it did start by with your testimony excluding people that aren't spirit filled. Not nice, we are supposed to help those people, the righteous don't need a doctor. You were basically speaking for nothing because it was of no use for people that are not filled with the spirit. Then you denied saying something while saying it, words are very precious to God and we are held accountable for everything we say. Please don't take this as me against you but us for God.

Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

  I have read the thread several times and still do not understand what the problem is!

I did not mean to offend anyone by my comment about only those that are spirit filled will understand. But I guess maybe I was right because I was asked to explain myself. 

1 Cor. 2 shows that God reveals things to us through our spirit. It is this spirit that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Not through man's wisdom, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth: comparing spiritual things with spiritual. The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It is with our spirit that we worship, understand and discern...

That said...Bitter Sweet...we just do not communicate very well! Too many misunderstandings! So I will just let it go and the readers can try to figure it out...because I still do not understand how you got so offended!

I have searched the thread also, and it appears that the poster in question has made charges against you out of thin air. You never said what you have been accused of saying. It is more than a misunderstanding, and your accuser needs to apologize and drop it, or risk offending everyone.

[Lively Stone]

Well it did start by with your testimony excluding people that aren't spirit filled. Not nice, we are supposed to help those people, the righteous don't need a doctor. You were basically speaking for nothing because it was of no use for people that are not filled with the spirit. Then you denied saying something while saying it, words are very precious to God and we are held accountable for everything we say. Please don't take this as me against you but us for God.

Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

This is what was said that you have taken offense at:

"I pray in the spirit, I sing in the spirit and I worship in the spirit! ...(ONLY those that are spirit filled will understand this statement)"

You cannot consider that 'not nice', because it is true. Only those who have been baptized in the Spirit experience praying, worshiping and singing in the Spirit. It isn't a declaration that those who don't aren't saved people!

Instead, you took offense and led this thread down one of your rabbit holes and lied abut one of our dearest members, to boot. You need to apologize.

[Bitter Sweet]

Well it did start by with your testimony excluding people that aren't spirit filled. Not nice, we are supposed to help those people, the righteous don't need a doctor. You were basically speaking for nothing because it was of no use for people that are not filled with the spirit. Then you denied saying something while saying it, words are very precious to God and we are held accountable for everything we say. Please don't take this as me against you but us for God.

Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

This is what was said that you have taken offense at:

"I pray in the spirit, I sing in the spirit and I worship in the spirit! ...(ONLY those that are spirit filled will understand this statement)"

You cannot consider that 'not nice', because it is true. Only those who have been baptized in the Spirit experience praying, worshiping and singing in the Spirit. It isn't a declaration that those who don't aren't saved people!

Instead, you took offense and led this thread down one of your rabbit holes and lied abut one of our dearest members, to boot. You need to apologize.

First of all, you are breaking a commandment by bearing false witness. I already stated I wasn't offended and you are falsely accusing me.

The thing is, it's quite easy to understand what she said, spirit filled or not. She said that some people wouldn't understand, what is there to not understand except that she isn't building people up that need to be built up?

[Lively Stone]

Well it did start by with your testimony excluding people that aren't spirit filled. Not nice, we are supposed to help those people, the righteous don't need a doctor. You were basically speaking for nothing because it was of no use for people that are not filled with the spirit. Then you denied saying something while saying it, words are very precious to God and we are held accountable for everything we say. Please don't take this as me against you but us for God.

Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

This is what was said that you have taken offense at:

"I pray in the spirit, I sing in the spirit and I worship in the spirit! ...(ONLY those that are spirit filled will understand this statement)"

You cannot consider that 'not nice', because it is true. Only those who have been baptized in the Spirit experience praying, worshiping and singing in the Spirit. It isn't a declaration that those who don't aren't saved people!

Instead, you took offense and led this thread down one of your rabbit holes and lied abut one of our dearest members, to boot. You need to apologize.

First of all, you are breaking a commandment by bearing false witness. I already stated I wasn't offended and you are falsely accusing me.

Not true, but...whatevah.

The thing is, it's quite easy to understand what she said, spirit filled or not. She said that some people wouldn't understand, what is there to not understand except that she isn't building people up that need to be built up?

So I take it you understood, then? She is right, however---some will not understand the things of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But people who aren't spiritual can't receive these truths from God's Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can't understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means.

[Bitter Sweet]

I read that Katy Perry told Rolling Stone that she prayed in tongues regularly. Hmmm, interesting... I won't even let my young children listen to her music.

My husband always leaves a song for my spirit on the cd player, he puts together all the music for my children and I to listen to. He always leaves a song on ready to play from the beginning when he drives my car last. Funny you don't listen to Katy Perry because I kept thinking of your spirit when I heard this song. It's very inspirational. 

Katy Perry - Firework Lyrics Video

1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding. 16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer,[d] say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying? 17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.

He left this song for us on Saturday and I noticed your post yesterday, I knew I had to wait for the right moment to show it to you. 

[raggthyme76]

Bitter Sweet,
I'm curious, how does this song minister to your spirit?

About a month ago something happened and my computer will no longer play youtube videos.. this is the message I get every time:

"An error has occurred, please try again later"

When Katy Perry came out with the song "I kissed a girl" I knew she was not the type of role model I wanted for my young children, especially for my little girl. Our Christian neighbors feel very differently, they allow their children to listen to and watch Perry, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars etc and that's between them and the Lord. As I tell my kids, I'm acting upon what I believe God has laid on my heart. I feel it's extremely important to guard our hearts and what we let into them. And for our family, the people my kids look up to should have godly character. I understand that there are "neutral" secular songs out there and in certain cases I allow them to download them, but sometimes I just say no because of the person singing. It's hard to explain, it's just a strong personal conviction. 

[Willie T]

It's not an openly bad song on the surface.  But it does promote the distinction that it is all YOU and "what YOU have had inside you all the time, to impress and blow people away."

Kind of like the sly way Disney movies promote US doing it all.  They promote, "It's the 'inner us', not who we are through God".

[Bitter Sweet]

Bitter Sweet,
I'm curious, how does this song minister to your spirit?

Sometimes when we are feeling down we just need a little encouragement, this is how my spirit sings, through pop stars. Just like the bible, the words are singing for us, to us. God is everywhere and in everything we do, even listening to music, we give thanks to him for giving it to us.

It's weird because my husband always know what song to play for me.

About a month ago something happened and my computer will no longer play youtube videos.. this is the message I get every time:

"An error has occurred, please try again later"

Here's the lyrics.

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag,
Drifting through the wind
Wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards,
One blow from caving in?

Do you ever feel already buried deep?
6 feet under screams but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you
'Cause there's a spark in you

You just gotta ignite the light, and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause baby you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in "awe, awe, awe"

You don't have to feel like a wasted space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow

Maybe your reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it's time, you'll know

You just gotta ignite the light, and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause baby you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go "Oh, Oh, Oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in "awe, awe, awe"

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It's always been inside of you, you, you
And now it's time to let it through-ough-ough

'Cause baby you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go "Oh, Oh, Oh"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go "Oh, Oh, Oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in "awe, awe, awe"

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon

When Katy Perry came out with the song "I kissed a girl" I knew she was not the type of role model I wanted for my young children, especially for my little girl. Our Christian neighbors feel very differently, they allow their children to listen to and watch Perry, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars etc and that's between them and the Lord. As I tell my kids, I'm acting upon what I believe God has laid on my heart. I feel it's extremely important to guard our hearts and what we let into them. And for our family, the people my kids look up to should have godly character. I understand that there are "neutral" secular songs out there and in certain cases I allow them to download them, but sometimes I just say no because of the person singing. It's hard to explain, it's just a strong personal conviction. 

That's the great thing about i-tunes, we can pick and choose individual songs and we don't have to get the whole album. She does have some good inspirational music, you would be surprised that some of her songs seem to be rooted with biblical truth. Especially this one, being blown by the wind, not that I think you are but sometimes I think you show doubt in yourself but not in your faith. It get's me back with the spirit and for some reason I kept thinking of your spirit too when I heard this song for the first time the other day.

[Lively Stone]

Bitter Sweet,
I'm curious, how does this song minister to your spirit?

About a month ago something happened and my computer will no longer play youtube videos.. this is the message I get every time:

"An error has occurred, please try again later"

When Katy Perry came out with the song "I kissed a girl" I knew she was not the type of role model I wanted for my young children, especially for my little girl. Our Christian neighbors feel very differently, they allow their children to listen to and watch Perry, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars etc and that's between them and the Lord. As I tell my kids, I'm acting upon what I believe God has laid on my heart. I feel it's extremely important to guard our hearts and what we let into them. And for our family, the people my kids look up to should have godly character. I understand that there are "neutral" secular songs out there and in certain cases I allow them to download them, but sometimes I just say no because of the person singing. It's hard to explain, it's just a strong personal conviction. 

I agree. Secular music has nothing to offer, and especially Katy Perry, who was brought up in a Christian family lives a compromised life, what has she to offer me? I would much rather hear music from people who are so anointed to produce it, as that music will have the right spiritual effect.

[Lively Stone]

This is blessing me these days...

http://youtu.be/VzGAYNKDyIU

[raggthyme76]

Thank you for thinking of me Bitter Sweet.  I just don't see the song as inspirational, in a biblical sense. To me, the things that minister to my spirit are infused with the truth of scripture.

I do see the self-esteem aspect of it, and that it might appeal to those who beat themselves up. But to me the answer to a weary and defeated spirit is not in merely thinking more highly of oneself (as the song indicates), but focusing on the love God has for us and who we are to Him. He alone can build us up through His truth, there are lots of pop stars out there saying, "hey.. you're somebody!" but the center is always self. If our eyes are on God and our hearts humbled before Him we will receive from Him everything we need for encouragement, even in the hard times.

Of course, this is way off the topic... sorry to go off on a tangent. 

[Willie T]

Wow, Lively!  Goosebumps!  I had never heard that one before.  Powerful.

[Willie T]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/katy-perry/236308/i-kissed-a-girl.jhtml

[Lively Stone]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/katy-perry/236308/i-kissed-a-girl.jhtml

You are right. Little girls all over the world are swooning over her and emulating her. It's disgusting.

[Bitter Sweet]

Thank you for thinking of me Bitter Sweet.  I just don't see the song as inspirational, in a biblical sense. To me, the things that minister to my spirit are infused with the truth of scripture.

Brighter than the moon reminds me of the woman in revelation with the moon under her feet arrayed by the sun, the plastic bag feeling like drifting by other's words trying to convert me, I just have a very integrated mind!

Matthew 15:11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"

So I guess if I say something bad from what I get out of music then that would make me unclean.

I do see the self-esteem aspect of it, and that it might appeal to those who beat themselves up. But to me the answer to a weary and defeated spirit is not in merely thinking more highly of oneself (as the song indicates), but focusing on the love God has for us and who we are to Him. He alone can build us up through His truth, there are lots of pop stars out there saying, "hey.. you're somebody!" but the center is always self. If our eyes are on God and our hearts humbled before Him we will receive from Him everything we need for encouragement, even in the hard times.

Of course, this is way off the topic... sorry to go off on a tangent. 

No it's not off topic, singing in the spirit maybe isn't your cup of tea with pop stars! Worshiping in the spirit can come through singing. I just never got into Christian music but I find God talking to me in lots of ways, sometimes through the least expected way. I see your point by getting all self centered through it and some people even idolize her, I don't. It's more or less my husbands way of building me up and giving me the confidence to not have darkness in my life.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

[Bitter Sweet]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

Maybe you shouldn't post it, that is very offensive to a lot of people. Do you mind editing it out, most of us have heard of that song. Besides it's not what goes in, it's what comes out that is unclean.

[MeMyself]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/katy-perry/236308/i-kissed-a-girl.jhtml

You are right. Little girls all over the world are swooning over her and emulating her. It's disgusting.

The first time we heard that song was at a gym and it was playing over the loud speakers for all in attendance.  I was like "Wait?! What did that JUST say???"  And I looked at my very sweet innocent little 11 year old daughter whose face was like this ---> and I just knew I had heard correctly.
I told my husband about it and asked him to go ask the man running the sound to change the song...he did and the guy was like "sure... ".  It broke my heart how far from what used to be considered common decency used to be our society has come..and the gym was just full of kids of all shapes, sizes and ages...just drinking in that perverse message.   

[Bitter Sweet]

The first time we heard that song was at a gym and it was playing over the loud speakers for all in attendance.  I was like "Wait?! What did that JUST say???"  And I looked at my very sweet innocent little 11 year old daughter whose face was like this ---> and I just knew I had heard correctly.
I told my husband about it and asked him to go ask the man running the sound to change the song...he did and the guy was like "sure... ".  It broke my heart how far from what used to be considered common decency used to be our society has come..and the gym was just full of kids of all shapes, sizes and ages...just drinking in that perverse message.   

I didn't say all of her songs were wholesome! 

[Lively Stone]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

Maybe you shouldn't post it, that is very offensive to a lot of people. Do you mind editing it out, most of us have heard of that song. Besides it's not what goes in, it's what comes out that is unclean.

If what comes out is unclean then the place where it came from is unclean. Hence, we need to upgrade our musical preferences if we want to honour God. We cannot hope to please God with one foot in the Kingdom and the other foot in the world. It's both feet or nothing.

Psalm 19:14
May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing to you, O LORD, my rock and my redeemer.

[MeMyself]

The first time we heard that song was at a gym and it was playing over the loud speakers for all in attendance.  I was like "Wait?! What did that JUST say???"  And I looked at my very sweet innocent little 11 year old daughter whose face was like this ---> and I just knew I had heard correctly.
I told my husband about it and asked him to go ask the man running the sound to change the song...he did and the guy was like "sure... ".  It broke my heart how far from what used to be considered common decency used to be our society has come..and the gym was just full of kids of all shapes, sizes and ages...just drinking in that perverse message.   

I didn't say all of her songs were wholesome! 

I have only heard the Fireworks one...and again at a gym full of people.  Its not nearly so offensive...mild and catchy...but that other one...it is heartbreaking! :(

[Bitter Sweet]

If what comes out is unclean then the place where it came from is unclean. Hence, we need to upgrade our musical preferences if we want to honour God. We cannot hope to please God with one foot in the Kingdom and the other foot in the world. It's both feet or nothing.

Psalm 19:14
May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing to you, O LORD, my rock and my redeemer.

We also need to upgrade our own mouths sometimes too. That's why I try to be very careful not to speak against other people or assume something about them without knowing the entire picture. This is a good place to practice that.

Honestly, I don't care for music that much, after coming to Christ it's just hasn't been priority the way it was. But now sometimes it does move my spirit and I don't create the soundtracks for my car. I don't actively seek to listen to anything in particular, whatever is on, is on if I feel like turning it on. But even on the radio, I can turn it on and it will be singing about something that was on my mind, it's weird but like I said, I integrate so much in my mind, it would probably drive other people crazy or paranoid! lol! But it's usually objective and sometimes telling me something I probably would take to kindly if I heard in person.

[raggthyme76]

...but that other one...it is heartbreaking! :(

I agree.. as it is, many of these kids are being taught in school that homosexuality is to be embraced. Good is evil and evil, good.. the songs just reflect a world without Jesus as king.

I would soon be overcome with despair seeing how children today are raised, if I didn't know that God can reach anyone, anywhere, no matter their upbringing.. and bring them from darkness to light. He did it with me!

I just hate the suffering that sin creates (in the meantime) in these little lives.

[Willie T]

Good Lord!

I just looked up that Katy on YouTube.  I could hardly believe my eyes... or my ears!  This is about as far from being a Christian as you can get.

Maybe you shouldn't post it, that is very offensive to a lot of people. Do you mind editing it out, most of us have heard of that song. Besides it's not what goes in, it's what comes out that is unclean.

No, I won't edit it out.  I deliberately did NOT put the actual video up for that very reason.  People have to choose to play it this way.

And they SHOULD be able to see what is supposedly good Christian music  (sorry, I thought that's how you presented it.)  And you DID present this girl as great stuff.... leaving out any such video for us to view to decide for ourselves.  Frankly, I don't even know what to say concerning something like that.

And you say your husband programs stuff like this for you and your kids to watch and listen to?

If any of this sounds harsh..... It was meant to sound harsh.

[Bitter Sweet]

If any of this sounds harsh..... It was meant to sound harsh.[/size]

You didn't sound harsh. Just a gentle old man that get's his drawers in a wad sometimes.    I know you said you had a stroke on my b-day, are you on meds? Sometimes strokes changes the personalities too.

Funny how we perceive things about others, I can't take what you say as harsh because I feel bad you had a stroke and I know 2 people that had strokes, changes their personalities completely, one was as mean as can be and the other was mean her whole life then she turned into a basket of rainbows and roses!

Sorry, I can't even take you seriously because of your condition.

[MeMyself]

Willie, I see the blessings and fingerprints of God all around you!  Your words here have added so much to so many threads and your understanding of scripture has been a benefit to all who have ears to hear.

I am so glad that God lead you here to fellowship with us.  You have been a great encouragement to me, and I know I am not alone. 

[Willie T]

Thank you, M²,

This has been an experience.  First of all, the stroke....  You know, of course, that I have to flip myself out of bed, onto the floor, and then roll (I can't crawl) into the office where I have to climb inch-by-inch up into the chair in front of the computer.  Then, to type, I have to touch each key, individually, with my tongue which is strapped to a tongue depressor to keep it straight.  It's a momma dog!
I say all this to possibly enlist even more sympathy from BS.  Because I can now use this silliness as an excuse to be even more specific in discussing some of the off-the-wall ideas she comes up with.

Seriously, M², you and about a half dozen others here have been like a breath of fresh air in a desert of misguided delusion.   Thank you for that, for being you, for being there, and for being open to allowing God to work through you.

Gotta run now, almost time to fire up the bike and head to the gym.  That's two hours I don't get a big kick out of, but I'm at least losing weight and hardening up some.  May not be here this afternoon either.  A bunch of us are meeting at one of the local Chick-Fil-A's to lend some support.

[grace]

Willie, I see the blessings and fingerprints of God all around you!  Your words here have added so much to so many threads and your understanding of scripture has been a benefit to all who have ears to hear.

I am so glad that God lead you here to fellowship with us.  You have been a great encouragement to me, and I know I am not alone. 

I agree!

[MeMyself]

Thank you, M²,

This has been an experience.  First of all, the stroke....  You know, of course, that I have to flip myself out of bed, onto the floor, and then roll (I can't crawl) into the office where I have to climb inch-by-inch up into the chair in front of the computer.  Then, to type, I have to touch each key, individually, with my tongue which is strapped to a tongue drepressor to keep it straight.  It's a momma dog!
I say all this to possibly enlist even more sympathy from BS.  Because I can now use this silliness as an excuse to be even more specific in discussing some of the off-the-wall ideas she comes up with.

Seriously, M², you and about a half dozen others here have been like a breath of fresh air in a desert of misguided delusion.   Thank you for that, for being you, for being there, and for being open to allowing God to work through you.

Gotta run now, almost time to fire up the bike ane head to the gym.  That's two hours I don't get a big kick out of, but I'm at least losing weight and hardening up some.  May not be here this afternoon either.  A bunch of us are meeting at one of the local Chick-Fil-A's to lend some support.

We have no Chick-Fil-A remotely close to us, so couldja take one for our team and feast away in our name? Thanks!  (If ya want, you could eat a sammy for the whole Fammy (heh-heh...I love stupid rhymes..HUGE Princess Bride fan  )...there are SIX of us!  It'll make the bike and gym so much more worth it!  )

Seriously though...have a wonderful day in the Lord!  You are a blessing! 

[Lively Stone]

I agree with MeMyself and have to say that Willie is the breath of fresh air around here!



Love you, Willie!

[Bitter Sweet]

I say all this to possibly enlist even more sympathy from BS. 

Too fleshy for my taste.

1 Corinthians 15:50 I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

[theTruth101]

Worshipping in the Spirit TO the Spirit means,

Worship God (Spirit) within the fundamental of God's christianity teachings. Which is One body, One Soul, and One Spirit.

Know that you have the Spirit of God within you, and praise the Spirit of God.