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Is staying around this group that discusses crude fictional content sinful?

Started by Kevin397, Thu Oct 09, 2014 - 19:24:50

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So over a month and a half ago, I joined an online community who I like being around. Some people are not the nicest, but I try not to let it get to me, and stick with those who like to talk with me. Now for the most part, the chat is relatively clean (aside from a few sex jokes every now and then). However, a few days ago, was the first time someone had brought up gay fanfictions. So someone brought it up, started talking about it, and then posted a link of their gay fan-fiction for everyone to read in chat. Now, being cautious, I decided not to read it. However, you think that just posting a link in the stream chat would have been enough for this guy, but no.  He then wanted someone in the online stream talk to read it out, so they did. Because of that, I had to mute the stream until they were finished. Then if that wasn't enough, someone in the Skype chat (yes I'm also in a Skype group with them) posted a narration link for everyone to download and read the next day. And of course, I was not going to download that trash on my computer and pollute my mind, so once again, I avoided it. 

Now, you're probably asking yourself, "Why do you stick around this group?"  Well they are relatively friendly people, and a few nights ago was the first and only time that anyone had went that far. And as I said myself, I avoided listening to and/or reading any of the fanfiction. So I did nothing wrong.     

Kevin397

My mistake.  Is there any way for this discussion to be moved to the "Sexual Topic" discussion?

Red Baker

Quote from: Kevin397 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 - 19:24:50Now, you're probably asking yourself, "Why do you stick around this group?" Well they are relatively friendly people, and a few nights ago was the first and only time that anyone had went that far. And as I said myself, I avoided listening to and/or reading any of the fanfiction. So I did nothing wrong.   

Everyone are friendly until you disagree with them, then their true nature will show it ugly head.  If you believe in God and fear him, then I would not spend one second with these type of people.  1 Cor. 15:33

Kevin397

Quote from: Red Baker on Sat Oct 11, 2014 - 08:04:51
Quote from: Kevin397 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 - 19:24:50Now, you're probably asking yourself, "Why do you stick around this group?" Well they are relatively friendly people, and a few nights ago was the first and only time that anyone had went that far. And as I said myself, I avoided listening to and/or reading any of the fanfiction. So I did nothing wrong.   

Everyone are friendly until you disagree with them, then their true nature will show it ugly head.  If you believe in God and fear him, then I would not spend one second with these type of people.  1 Cor. 15:33

No one is perfect, and we all make mistakes. Are you saying that I should stop chatting with them just because of some occasionally wrong behavior? Overall, they are nice people, and the good outshines the bad. And just because I am spending time with them, it doesn't mean that I don't love and fear God. Are you questioning my salvation? Jesus hung out with sinners all the time.

Kevin397

Update: So you were right. Maybe it was best if I didn't hang out in the group. Last night was a pretty crazy chat group session, with someone getting drunk in the Skype call, and people talking about inappropriate stuff in the chat. I'll admit that it was a fun time, but very lewd and nasty at times. Someone even posted that fanfiction again, and had someone read it over Skype (which one again, I muted the stream for).  Anyways, I'm just glad that even though I stayed in the chat, I didn't stoop to anyone's level by being extremely lewd and vulgar.  On a more serious note though, at one point, someone started trolling me in the chat, acting mean to me.  But when I tried defending myself, I got attacked by someone else in the chat, and then someone else over Skype started cursing me out. It was unsettling. 

This whole thing is stupid, and it's time to leave the group. I mean, would God want me hanging around this?         

chapmic

If you could lead the discussion to a new topic and explain why you do not like this topic or the type of behavior they may be understanding and you can have better group sessions. If not then it will be best to leave the group. But if you give your testimony and thoroughly explain why you do not want to participate in somethings they may accept you and be curious why you have believe. It's a possibility you may lead them to Christ thru your testimony, remember Christians have the ability to lead by example, Jesus said we are the light. I hope this helps, God bless!

Kevin397

Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 10:53:44
If you could lead the discussion to a new topic and explain why you do not like this topic or the type of behavior they may be understanding and you can have better group sessions. If not then it will be best to leave the group. But if you give your testimony and thoroughly explain why you do not want to participate in somethings they may accept you and be curious why you have believe. It's a possibility you may lead them to Christ thru your testimony, remember Christians have the ability to lead by example, Jesus said we are the light. I hope this helps, God bless!

Good advice. Also, how do I approach the situation about the guys who antagonized me, and the one guy who cursed me out over Skype? I asked the head of the Skype chat about it, and he coldly said, "You shouldn't be talking about this to me." Address it to the ones who you had the misunderstanding with." The problem with that, is that I am afraid that if I bring it up again, I will get attacked and called out over Skype.

chapmic

Quote from: Kevin397 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 13:26:31
Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 10:53:44
If you could lead the discussion to a new topic and explain why you do not like this topic or the type of behavior they may be understanding and you can have better group sessions. If not then it will be best to leave the group. But if you give your testimony and thoroughly explain why you do not want to participate in somethings they may accept you and be curious why you have believe. It's a possibility you may lead them to Christ thru your testimony, remember Christians have the ability to lead by example, Jesus said we are the light. I hope this helps, God bless!

Good advice. Also, how do I approach the situation about the guys who antagonized me, and the one guy who cursed me out over Skype? I asked the head of the Skype chat about it, and he coldly said, "You shouldn't be talking about this to me." Address it to the ones who you had the misunderstanding with." The problem with that, is that I am afraid that if I bring it up again, I will get attacked and called out over Skype.

Yes, Bring it up again in a gentle manner to see if he will stop. If they won't then move on and find another group. I know its hard and it stinks be antagonized but the good news is that anybody who antagonizes you because you are Christian, You are blessed. You are blessed with an eternal blessing that no one can take from you. Jesus loves obedience because it is a sign of our faith in him. When we ask ourself how would Jesus handle this situation or what is the Christian way to do this? Jesus rejoices because we are putting our trust in him above our own worldly think. You will be putting yourself out there but don't worry because it is a win win situation. If they listen the problem will be resolved, if they act harshly towards you then you are blessed still because Jesus knows and understand what its like to be antagonized and he will be proud that you stood strong because you are more interested in what's right in his eyes. I hope that helps! God bless!

Kevin397

Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 16:03:53
Quote from: Kevin397 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 13:26:31
Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 10:53:44
If you could lead the discussion to a new topic and explain why you do not like this topic or the type of behavior they may be understanding and you can have better group sessions. If not then it will be best to leave the group. But if you give your testimony and thoroughly explain why you do not want to participate in somethings they may accept you and be curious why you have believe. It's a possibility you may lead them to Christ thru your testimony, remember Christians have the ability to lead by example, Jesus said we are the light. I hope this helps, God bless!

Good advice. Also, how do I approach the situation about the guys who antagonized me, and the one guy who cursed me out over Skype? I asked the head of the Skype chat about it, and he coldly said, "You shouldn't be talking about this to me." Address it to the ones who you had the misunderstanding with." The problem with that, is that I am afraid that if I bring it up again, I will get attacked and called out over Skype.

Yes, Bring it up again in a gentle manner to see if he will stop. If they won't then move on and find another group. I know its hard and it stinks be antagonized but the good news is that anybody who antagonizes you because you are Christian, You are blessed. You are blessed with an eternal blessing that no one can take from you. Jesus loves obedience because it is a sign of our faith in him. When we ask ourself how would Jesus handle this situation or what is the Christian way to do this? Jesus rejoices because we are putting our trust in him above our own worldly think. You will be putting yourself out there but don't worry because it is a win win situation. If they listen the problem will be resolved, if they act harshly towards you then you are blessed still because Jesus knows and understand what its like to be antagonized and he will be proud that you stood strong because you are more interested in what's right in his eyes. I hope that helps! God bless!

At this point, is it even worth bringing up the issue with them? Out of all the people in the group, I know these guys the least. Are they worth the risk of being cursed out again, and the time? Based on the way the guys who antagonized me addressed the misunderstanding, I feel they would curse me out again or mock me.  I feel like such a loser (although I know that I am not).

chapmic

Quote from: Kevin397 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 - 18:16:58
Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 16:03:53
Quote from: Kevin397 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 13:26:31
Quote from: chapmic on Mon Oct 13, 2014 - 10:53:44
If you could lead the discussion to a new topic and explain why you do not like this topic or the type of behavior they may be understanding and you can have better group sessions. If not then it will be best to leave the group. But if you give your testimony and thoroughly explain why you do not want to participate in somethings they may accept you and be curious why you have believe. It's a possibility you may lead them to Christ thru your testimony, remember Christians have the ability to lead by example, Jesus said we are the light. I hope this helps, God bless!

Good advice. Also, how do I approach the situation about the guys who antagonized me, and the one guy who cursed me out over Skype? I asked the head of the Skype chat about it, and he coldly said, "You shouldn't be talking about this to me." Address it to the ones who you had the misunderstanding with." The problem with that, is that I am afraid that if I bring it up again, I will get attacked and called out over Skype.

Yes, Bring it up again in a gentle manner to see if he will stop. If they won't then move on and find another group. I know its hard and it stinks be antagonized but the good news is that anybody who antagonizes you because you are Christian, You are blessed. You are blessed with an eternal blessing that no one can take from you. Jesus loves obedience because it is a sign of our faith in him. When we ask ourself how would Jesus handle this situation or what is the Christian way to do this? Jesus rejoices because we are putting our trust in him above our own worldly think. You will be putting yourself out there but don't worry because it is a win win situation. If they listen the problem will be resolved, if they act harshly towards you then you are blessed still because Jesus knows and understand what its like to be antagonized and he will be proud that you stood strong because you are more interested in what's right in his eyes. I hope that helps! God bless!

At this point, is it even worth bringing up the issue with them? Out of all the people in the group, I know these guys the least. Are they worth the risk of being cursed out again, and the time? Based on the way the guys who antagonized me addressed the misunderstanding, I feel they would curse me out again or mock me.  I feel like such a loser (although I know that I am not).

Yea I understand the feeling, you have every right to find a new group if you want to. People should not be antagonized and it will feel bad at the moment, but trust me it is better to say something than stay in a group that is disrespectful to you. Don't worry there are people who will respect you for you sometimes we have to go thru difficult situations to find them.

Kevin397

I actually did say something, but got no response from one of the heads of the Skype group.  Furthermore, I don't think the guys who antagonized me care to apologize in the least. Just the other day, I was talking within the group, when one of the antagonistic guys did a "sneak attack". Out of nowhere, he said something rude to me, and went into hiding. Basically, we were talking about something serious, and when I said I like talking about serious things, one of the antagonistic guys jumped in and said, "Ha! Funny!"  I feel like getting revenge, but I know that will make me no better than the said person making those kinds of remarks.

k-pappy

Hi Kevin...I think that it is time for you to leave the group.  They have show their true colors, plus there is no need for you to expose yourself to that type of stuff or those types of individuals.  Remember, bad company corrupts good character...it is better to lose some friends than to lose your soul.

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