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How Do Preterists Distinguish Post-Millennialism from Dominionism?

Started by notreligus, Wed Oct 15, 2014 - 13:52:58

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notreligus

Presuming that Presterists do so, and I believe that most do , could you describe how Preterists Distinguish Post-Millennialism from Dominionism?   

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Dominionism isn't really a theology, is it?  It's more like a political philosophy that advocates for Christians assuming positions of governmental responsibility.

I guess there are a number of different theological underpinnings one could use to substantiate that idea.

notreligus

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Thu Oct 16, 2014 - 04:42:31
Dominionism isn't really a theology, is it?  It's more like a political philosophy that advocates for Christians assuming positions of governmental responsibility.

I guess there are a number of different theological underpinnings one could use to substantiate that idea.

Dominionism is used in that context, but I do believe it is a theology.   To expand beyond that I might be anticipating the answers I hope to receive to the question.   


Rev20

Quote from: notreligus on Wed Oct 15, 2014 - 13:52:58
Presuming that Presterists do so, and I believe that most do , could you describe how Preterists Distinguish Post-Millennialism from Dominionism?

Dominionism crosses thelogical boundaries.  I understand that Tim Lahaye, Pat Robertson and Billy Graham are Dominionists.

::smile::




notreligus

I've been reading a Kindle version of a formal debate between Dominionist Joel McDurmon and Preterist Don Preston.   I think that Dominionism has evolved into a bit more complicated proposed scenario than a simple belief that Christians should be influential in mainstream government.   The Preterists here surely know of Don Preston and may know about this debate that occurred in 2012.   Speaking for myself, I am so steeped in Dispensational terminology and that has been ingrained in me so much that although I know the basics of Post-Millennialism (having read about it quite a lot), I am not as familiar as I would like to be about how Preterists in particular view Post-Millennialism vs. Dominionism.   Christian Reconstructionism is another cousin of Dominionism.   

I won't disagree with what has been said about Dominionism although I'm not familiar with Billy Graham or Tim LaHaye sharing that stance as, for example, it would seem to be at odds with Tim LaHaye's Pre-Millennial Rapture of the church stance.   Francis Schaefer was the first I knew of and then I found that Pat Robertson is Dominionist.   He and the former president of Regent University were speaking about Dominionism not long ago and the way they spoke of it reminded me of Post-Millennialism.   Bishop Earl Paulk (now deceased) was a Dominionist but essentially known as a "Kingdom Now" sort of Dominionist.   I hope to hear from Preterists about their particular views on the matter.   

Rev20

Quote from: notreligus on Mon Oct 20, 2014 - 19:14:54
I'm not familiar with Billy Graham or Tim LaHaye sharing that stance as, for example, it would seem to be at odds with Tim LaHaye's Pre-Millennial Rapture of the church stance.  Francis Schaefer was the first I knew of and then I found that Pat Robertson is Dominionist.

I got this quote on Lehaye's dominionism from Gary Demar's article, "Will the Real Anti-Prophets Please Stand Up?"

"If we sit back and let the secularizers continue to dominate the government, the courts, the media, and education, [our religious] guarantees will be lost. Fortunately, a groundswell of concerned citizens is getting involved. They are becoming so informed that they will wrest control of this nation from the hands of the secularizers and place it back into the hands of those who founded this nation, citizens who had a personal and abiding faith in the God of the Bible." [Tim LaHaye, Faith of Our Founding Fathers (Colorado Springs, CO: Master Books, 1994), 15.]

I don't recall where I read the same about Billy Graham, but I do recall he had a similar view to Pat Robertson and, maybe, Chuck Colson.

::smile::

notreligus

Quote from: Rev20 on Wed Oct 22, 2014 - 10:34:39
Quote from: notreligus on Mon Oct 20, 2014 - 19:14:54
I'm not familiar with Billy Graham or Tim LaHaye sharing that stance as, for example, it would seem to be at odds with Tim LaHaye's Pre-Millennial Rapture of the church stance.  Francis Schaefer was the first I knew of and then I found that Pat Robertson is Dominionist.

I got this quote on Lehaye's dominionism from Gary Demar's article, "Will the Real Anti-Prophets Please Stand Up?"

"If we sit back and let the secularizers continue to dominate the government, the courts, the media, and education, [our religious] guarantees will be lost. Fortunately, a groundswell of concerned citizens is getting involved. They are becoming so informed that they will wrest control of this nation from the hands of the secularizers and place it back into the hands of those who founded this nation, citizens who had a personal and abiding faith in the God of the Bible." [Tim LaHaye, Faith of Our Founding Fathers (Colorado Springs, CO: Master Books, 1994), 15.]

I don't recall where I read the same about Billy Graham, but I do recall he had a similar view to Pat Robertson and, maybe, Chuck Colson.

::smile::

Thanks for finding that and sharing it.   That quote definitely has a Dominionist tone, but that would indicate that LaHaye has one foot in Dominionism and one foot in the belief that the world is winding down. 

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

QuoteThanks for finding that and sharing it.   That quote definitely has a Dominionist tone, but that would indicate that LaHaye has one foot in Dominionism and one foot in the belief that the world is winding down.
He's definitely more skilled at making things up than at figuring things out.

Jarrod

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