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Bonfire night

Started by Jesus disciple, Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13

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Jesus disciple

Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

Paulus

Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .

winsome

Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .


Except in Lewes in Sussex - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewes_Bonfire

Paulus

Quote from: winsome on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:39:57
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .


Except in Lewes in Sussex - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewes_Bonfire

Yes , Winsome , the revellers in Lewes are very traditional .

This year they had Alex Salmon on the fire , and in 2010 David Cameron .

I had better not say whether I agree with these recent innovations.  ::crackup::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29921797

chosenone

I cant work out why people in lewes, the South coast of England,  want to burn Alex Salmond.  ::headscratch::
Personally I think it should be Nick Clegg.  ::flaming::

Paulus

Quote from: chosenone on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 15:09:50
I cant work out why people in lewes, the South coast of England,  want to burn Alex Salmond.  ::headscratch::
Personally I think it should be Nick Clegg.  ::flaming::

In 2010 the effigy they used of David Cameron had him holding a puppet Nick Clegg .

So I guess they share your opinion .  ::smile::

chosenone

Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 15:17:39
Quote from: chosenone on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 15:09:50
I cant work out why people in lewes, the South coast of England,  want to burn Alex Salmond.  ::headscratch::
Personally I think it should be Nick Clegg.  ::flaming::

In 2010 the effigy they used of David Cameron had him holding a puppet Nick Clegg .

So I guess they share your opinion .  ::smile::

Well I think any popularity that Nick Clegg had then has disappeared now.  ::frown::

Jesus disciple

Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Paulus

Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Oh dear !

When you opened this thread I guessed it was going to lead to a post such as your last one .

Just another opportunity for someone to have a go at Catholics .  ::frown::

Sorry to disappoint you , but Catholics will continue to enjoy Bonfire Night .   ::tippinghat::

It has nothing to do with politics or religion any more . That's except for a few bigots .

It seems , that like the poor , we will always have bigots among us .

One only needs to go through this forum . It is rife with anti-Catholic bigotry , fortunately only from A FEW , and I am pleased that this FEW are not representative of the majority of Protestants .

chosenone

Quote from: Paulus on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 04:35:20
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Oh dear !

When you opened this thread I guessed it was going to lead to a post such as your last one .

Just another opportunity for someone to have a go at Catholics .  ::frown::

Sorry to disappoint you , but Catholics will continue to enjoy Bonfire Night .   ::tippinghat::

It has nothing to do with politics or religion any more . That's except for a few bigots .

It seems , that like the poor , we will always have bigots among us .

One only needs to go through this forum . It is rife with anti-Catholic bigotry , fortunately only from A FEW , and I am pleased that this FEW are not representative of the majority of Protestants .


While I agree that the fact we have a few fireworks isnt an issue, I dont agree about the bigotry. Pointing out unbiblical error isnt being bigoted, and as long as they are no personal attack or rudeness, people are allowed to disagree.

Gays will accuse Christians of being bigoted for example, merely for saying what God says about something.

chosenone

Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Most people dont even have a bonfire now, just the fireworks, and all it is is remembering an important historical event. 

Jesus disciple

#11
Quote from: Paulus on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 04:35:20
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Oh dear !

When you opened this thread I guessed it was going to lead to a post such as your last one .

Just another opportunity for someone to have a go at Catholics .  ::frown::

Sorry to disappoint you , but Catholics will continue to enjoy Bonfire Night .   ::tippinghat::

It has nothing to do with politics or religion any more . That's except for a few bigots .

It seems , that like the poor , we will always have bigots among us .

One only needs to go through this forum . It is rife with anti-Catholic bigotry , fortunately only from A FEW , and I am pleased that this FEW are not representative of the majority of Protestants .



Of cause bonfire night is a religious thing ,COMMENT DELETED
You can think what you want, but you can't change the facts.

Why would Catholics want to celebrate a defeat??.

Paulus

Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 11:16:19
Quote from: Paulus on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 04:35:20
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Oh dear !

When you opened this thread I guessed it was going to lead to a post such as your last one .

Just another opportunity for someone to have a go at Catholics .  ::frown::

Sorry to disappoint you , but Catholics will continue to enjoy Bonfire Night .   ::tippinghat::

It has nothing to do with politics or religion any more . That's except for a few bigots .

It seems , that like the poor , we will always have bigots among us .

One only needs to go through this forum . It is rife with anti-Catholic bigotry , fortunately only from A FEW , and I am pleased that this FEW are not representative of the majority of Protestants .



Of cause bonfire night is a religious thing , It's a Christian victory over Catholicism.
You can think what you want, but you can't change the facts.

Why would Catholics want to celebrate a defeat??.

And how many bonfires on or around November 5th have you attended , Jesus disciple ?

chosenone

#13
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 11:16:19
Quote from: Paulus on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 04:35:20
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sun Nov 09, 2014 - 01:54:58
Quote from: Paulus on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 14:20:05
Quote from: Jesus disciple on Sat Nov 08, 2014 - 13:50:13
Did or do any Catholics celebrate bonfire night, 5th November.

In my younger days , after Christmas , Bonfire Night and the days when we prepared for it were probably the most exciting days of the year . It was great fun collecting wood and then on the night standing around it as it burned . We would have made a "Guy" to burn on the fire . We enjoyed the fireworks , the potatoes baked in the fire , and goodies which our mums had made such as treacle toffee and sticky parkin .

It is not celebrated now as it was in my childhood . We had the bonfire in the back street . We lit our own fireworks . Our dads lit the fires . It was just fun . Now they tend to be more organised . Health and Safety and all that stuff .  ::frown::

Yes , as Catholics , we celebrated Bonfire Night .

The days when it was a political or sectarian affair were long gone .

Ask anyone today who goes to a bonfire why they are doing it , and they may have some vague idea about Guy Fawkes plotting to blow up the Houses of Parliament , but little else .



Catholics shouldn't have bonfire nights, as it's a mightily  defeated event for them.
It was a Catholic attempt to overthrow a Christian government, which failed.

Oh dear !

When you opened this thread I guessed it was going to lead to a post such as your last one .

Just another opportunity for someone to have a go at Catholics .  ::frown::

Sorry to disappoint you , but Catholics will continue to enjoy Bonfire Night .   ::tippinghat::

It has nothing to do with politics or religion any more . That's except for a few bigots .

It seems , that like the poor , we will always have bigots among us .

One only needs to go through this forum . It is rife with anti-Catholic bigotry , fortunately only from A FEW , and I am pleased that this FEW are not representative of the majority of Protestants .



Of cause bonfire night is a religious thing , It's a Christian victory over Catholicism.
You can think what you want, but you can't change the facts.

Why would Catholics want to celebrate a defeat??.

JD I started having fireworks on bonfire night as a small child in the late 50's. I never even knew the perpetrators were Catholics. All most people know is that some men tried to blow up the houses of parliament. Its not a celebration of anything except maybe that they didnt succeed or kill anyone. Its enjoying some  fireworks and maybe a bonfire.
WHy is it such an issue to you? 

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